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The Links Thread

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    #1322
    BoldReason
    Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭BoldReason


    Cheers will drop them a mail


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    #1323
    paulos53
    Registered Users Posts: 979 ✭✭✭paulos53


    I just sent them an email and the competition days are already full


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    #1324
    BoldReason
    Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭BoldReason


    The open singles is full and they are not taking any more bookings on that. Still have some slots available for the 130euro non competition.

    Same as above*


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    #1325
    jarrieta
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭jarrieta


    BoldReason wrote: »
    The open singles is full and they are not taking any more bookings on that. Still have some slots available for the 130euro non competition.

    Same as above*

    Sent them an email at 7am and still no response and won't be able to call them :(


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    #1326
    Benicetomonty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    Emailed them myself, staging 3 comps but all booked up. Said there may be others over summer but cant bank on it I dont think. Oh well!


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    #1327
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.


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    #1328
    mike12
    Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.

    Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.


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    #1329
    GolfNut33
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    mike12 wrote: »
    Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.

    Wouldn't be surprised at this stage TBH. The GUI have been very poor/weak.


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    #1330
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mike12 wrote: »
    Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.

    Who knows. Green fees are allowed since Monday with a Member so that is something.


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    #1331
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Exactly wrote: »
    Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.

    Same price as last year, nice course for 50 smackers

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    #1332
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,806 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Straight from Wiki - anyone think this is the right list - couple of ones we would not consider "true links courses".

    I've had other things on the last few years - but do hope to play them all at some point (well most of them anyway) - not sure I've any interest in the second course (even if I know some are very good)

    Also - think I will only play main ones in North also.

    I've played 33 of the total 64 listed here. A long way to go - and a realistic timeline is another 7/8 years - and at that stage you need to start again to remember them.

    Again a good few are not even links and the secondary courses are not my thing. I'm probably not so bad off if, non links and second course were removed as a goal. Bold are played.

    Republic of Ireland
    South West (Total 13 , 11 primary)

    The 18th hole at the Old Head Golf Links on the Old Head of Kinsale
    Ballybunion Golf Club – Old Course, Co Kerry
    Ballybunion Golf Club – Cashen Course, Co Kerry
    Castlegregory Golf & Fishing Club, Co Kerry
    Dingle Golf Club, Co Kerry
    Dooks Golf Club, Co Kerry
    Doonbeg Golf Club, Co Clare
    Lahinch Golf Club – Old Course, Co Clare
    Lahinch Golf Club – Castle Course, Co Clare
    Old Head of Kinsale, Co Cork
    Spanish Point Golf Club, Co Clare
    Tralee Golf Club, Co Kerry
    Waterville Golf Club, Co Kerry

    South East (Total 14, primary =12)

    Arklow Golf Club, Co Wicklow
    Corballis Links Golf Club, Co Dublin
    The European Golf Club, Co Wicklow
    The Island Golf Club, Donabate, Co Dublin
    Laytown & Bettystown Golf Club, Co Meath
    Portmarnock Golf Club – Championship Course, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
    Portmarnock Golf Club – Yellow Course, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
    Portmarnock Hotel & Golf Links, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
    Rosslare Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Wexford
    Rosslare Golf Club – Burrow Course, Co Wexford
    Rush Golf Club, Co Dublin
    St Anne's Golf Club, Co Dublin
    Sutton Golf Club Co Dublin
    Royal Dublin Golf Club, Co Dublin

    North West (Total 23, Primary = 18)

    Achill Island Golf Club, Co Mayo
    Ballyliffin Golf Club – Glashedy Course, Co Donegal
    Ballyliffin Golf Club – Old Course, Co Donegal
    Bundoran Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Carne Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Mayo
    Carne Golf Club – Kilmore Course, Co Mayo
    Connemara Golf Links, Co Galway
    Connemara Isles Golf Club, Co Galway
    County Sligo Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Sligo
    County Sligo Golf Club – Bomore Course, Co Sligo
    Cruit Island Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Donegal Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Dunfanaghy Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Enniscrone Golf Club – Dunes Course, Co Sligo
    Enniscrone Golf Club – Scurmore Course, Co Sligo
    Gweedore Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Mulranny Golf Club, Co Mayo
    Narin & Portnoo Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Northwest Golf Clubs, Co Donegal
    Portsalon Golf Club, Co Donegal
    Rosapenna Golf Club – Sandy Hills Course, Co Donegal
    Rosapenna Golf Club – Old Tom Morris Course, Co Donegal
    Strandhill Golf Club, Strandhill, Co Sligo

    Northern Ireland (total = 14 , 8 if primary course)

    Royal County Down
    Ardglass Golf Club – Ardglass, County Down
    Ballycastle Golf Club, Ballycastle, County Antrim
    Bushfoot Golf Club, Portballintrae, County Antrim
    Castlerock Golf Club – Mussenden Course, Castlerock, County Londonderry
    Castlerock Golf Club – Bann Course, Castlerock, County Londonderry
    Kirkistown Castle Golf Club, Cloughey, County Down
    Portstewart Golf Club – Strand Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
    Portstewart Golf Club – Old Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
    Portstewart Golf Club – Riverside Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
    Royal County Down Golf Club – Championship Course, Newcastle, County Down
    Royal County Down Golf Club – Annesley Course, Newcastle, County Down
    Royal Portrush Golf Club – Dunluce Course, Portrush, County Antrim
    Royal Portrush Golf Club – Valley Course (Rathmore), Portrush, County Antrim


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    #1333
    Mushy
    Registered Users Posts: 21,162 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    It better be right, I've had to update my excel list. Hopefully Arklow, Murvagh and 1 other in next 3 weeks


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    #1334
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,806 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Mushy wrote: »
    It better be right, I've had to update my excel list. Hopefully Arklow, Murvagh and 1 other in next 3 weeks

    As I said - it actually isn't right in an Irish Links sense.

    Well they are courses that "Link" to the see - so some people think it is right - But.................


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    #1335
    golfguy1
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭golfguy1


    Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
    Best course I've played in Ireland.
    Think it's great value


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    #1336
    Benicetomonty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    golfguy1 wrote: »
    Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
    Best course I've played in Ireland.
    Think it's great value

    Where did you see this?


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    #1337
    golfguy1
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭golfguy1


    Benicetomonty wrote: »
    Where did you see this?

    A member of Waterville told me


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    #1338
    Deporhostia
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Deporhostia


    golfguy1 wrote: »
    Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
    Best course I've played in Ireland.
    Think it's great value

    That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

    As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

    Edit: just seen reply. Is it member guest? Or GUI visitor? Or something else?


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    #1339
    Benicetomonty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    golfguy1 wrote: »
    A member of Waterville told me

    Will be an email in their inbox tomorrow morning so! Thanks for the heads up!


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    #1340
    golfguy1
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭golfguy1


    Deporhostia wrote: »
    That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

    As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

    They are still booked out for September with American tourists. If they start to cancel as expected you will probably get most the Kerry links courses for max €100 each


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    #1341
    golfguy1
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭golfguy1


    Deporhostia wrote: »
    That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

    As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

    Edit: just seen reply. Is it member guest? Or GUI visitor? Or something else?

    The member didn't mention member guest.
    I assume it will be gui/ilgu


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    #1342
    Deporhostia
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Deporhostia


    Benicetomonty wrote: »
    Will be an email in their inbox tomorrow morning so! Thanks for the heads up!

    Let us now how that goes please


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    #1343
    mike12
    Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    The list of links looks a bit big think the 58 in the link below are the real links courses.

    https://migrantgolfer.com/the-true-links-courses-of-the-world/


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    #1344
    Benicetomonty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    Waterville replied there. 75e rate only kicks in from November, as specified on website. Golfguy or possibly his member must have confused winter and summer rates. 140e til November :(


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    #1345
    Mushy
    Registered Users Posts: 21,162 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Benicetomonty wrote: »
    Waterville replied there. 75e rate only kicks in from November, as specified on website. Golfguy or possibly his member must have confused winter and summer rates. 140e til November :(

    Disappointing! Wont be paying 140 for it myself


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    #1346
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭rooney30


    Mushy wrote: »
    Disappointing! Wont be paying 140 for it myself


    It’s green fee is normally 250 . At 140 your getting a 45% discount , to play the course in its summer peak condition . Seems alright to me


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    #1347
    Raisins
    Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Raisins


    Co Louth - €100
    The European - €100

    GUI rates.


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    #1348
    Mushy
    Registered Users Posts: 21,162 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    rooney30 wrote: »
    It’s green fee is normally 250 . At 140 your getting a 45% discount , to play the course in its summer peak condition . Seems alright to me

    I meant next month, wont be able to splash out 140 on a round after travel costs


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    #1349
    Whiplash85
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    I cant see how some of the top end golf courses are going to attract customers with €140 per person. I get that it is normally €250 but anything north of €100 is not very enticing to a domestic tourism market. A lot of these golf courses are built for American executives and high rollers who can easily part with €250 in green fees and another €250 in the pro shop buying golf apparel. I rang Adare earlier and it was €395 for a round. That is just insane. I predict golf courses in general will charge lower for green fees in the coming months and as we draw closer to 29th June there may be a shift.


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    #1350
    thewobbler
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭thewobbler


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    I cant see how some of the top end golf courses are going to attract customers with €140 per person. I get that it is normally €250 but anything north of €100 is not very enticing to a domestic tourism market. A lot of these golf courses are built for American executives and high rollers who can easily part with €250 in green fees and another €250 in the pro shop buying golf apparel. I rang Adare earlier and it was €395 for a round. That is just insane. I predict golf courses in general will charge lower for green fees in the coming months and as we draw closer to 29th June there may be a shift.

    Let’s try this one in reverse.

    What price point do you think a worldwide top 100 course should charge in peak season, that will both attract local golfers, but not see the product’s positioning damaged by an influx of bargain hunters?

    There’s 300 courses in Ireland you can play cheap golf on. That’s not the market for these courses, even if you so, so want it to be.


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    #1351
    Benicetomonty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    thewobbler wrote: »
    Let’s try this one in reverse.

    What price point do you think a worldwide top 100 course should charge in peak season, that will both attract local golfers, but not see the product’s positioning damaged by an influx of bargain hunters?

    There’s 300 courses in Ireland you can play cheap golf on. That’s not the market for these courses, even if you so, so want it to be.

    I distinctly remember clubs like Waterville and Lahinch hosting open events for around 50e 5 or 6 years ago. You can play RCD for 50 pounds in July via Mourne golf club's open week. Dont see how the 'product positioning' has been damaged in any of those instances.
    I would anticipate there may well be some movement on green fees here and there. Im sure the big links tracks have a few bob in reserves but theyl be hit hard by summer cancellations and incentives for locals is an easy way to make some of it back.

    The fact that Old Head is hosting Open comps during July, something Ive never seen them do, would seem to back this up. There are very few Irish golfers that will pay 140e for a game of golf (not even a comp!) and there are even fewer that will do it twice. Throw in the remoteness of some of our major links venues and youre looking at a dearth of repeat customers because the fee combined with travel and an overnight stay (with the reality of a very restricted pub and nightlife scene) would make too many people unwilling to consider such an expedition. The likes of Portmarnock may be able to consider maintaining their fees but other clubs may have to relax them this summer as a once off.
    I see Waterville have a reasonably new clubhouse to pay for as well. Money has to come from somewhere!


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