Seriously comtempleting going home

Timistry · 28-10-2014 7:39pm #1

I was made redundant from work 2 weeks ago

I came out here 4 and a half years ago as a graduate (suitcase on my own) and I have been working ever since. Not exactly in my envisaged career but 457 visas complicated things....:rolleyes: Now I have PR so it doesn't matter

Things are picking up now in Eire and the UK. I have applied for a few jobs and have been put forward for interview. I have also applied for jobs in Oz including a seemingly dream job and I have gotten a good response so far.

But alas, my heart tells me that I want to go home!! Since I left work I have no-one to call a close friend. The parents are retiring next month and the mother has been very sick of late. My friends in Ireland seem to be living the high life going here there and everywhere whilst I have been working away here and have zero craic. 4 years basically on your own working is a long time especially in the prime of your life. It makes me panic like a mid life crisis!!

So basically I have decided, feck it I wanna go home. Life is too short to be unhappy and to feel empty inside. I have no doubt that I will be back to Oz and the PR will facilitate that. I will give 1-2 years and see how i feel.

So kind people of boards, am I mad???

Feckthis · 28-10-2014 7:44pm

Stay out there until you can find a suitable job in Ireland. They say the economy is picking up but I don't see it. Unless your from Dublin of course.

Yer Aul One · 28-10-2014 7:50pm

There is a tonne of jobs in Dublin, especially in finance

lukegriffen · 28-10-2014 8:08pm

Well the decision is between a dream job with no craic for another couple of years 'v' (presumably) a fairly decent job & close to friends & family ?

If you decide to come home, if you haven't seen any of the country, take at least a month off to see Australia. It's amazing how fast 10 or 15 years can pass by

catbear · 29-10-2014 1:10am

You've got your PR so no drama.

If where you are now isn't holding you and Ireland doesn't work out then try a different part of Australia.

Sundy · 29-10-2014 2:11am

Stay until you have your citizenship, its got to be pretty close for you now. Hundred times better than PR and then you could come back in 10 years if they economy coin flips again.

jank · 29-10-2014 2:45am

Get your Aussie passport first!!

Mellor · 29-10-2014 4:50am

How long have you have PR?
With 4+ years under your belt, it'd be crazy to go home now if you've anything close to 12 months on PR.

Are you aware of the difference citizenship makes over PR.

Sundy · 29-10-2014 5:43am

Mellor wrote: »

Are you aware of the difference citizenship makes over PR.

Previously I had thought there was little difference. Read up on resident return visas and getting them etc and I realised the difference. PR is really only good if you plan on being a resident (logical when you think about it).

sin_city · 29-10-2014 5:48am

Get your passport. You've stuck around this long............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b3XTj5G_SA

anto9 · 29-10-2014 6:13am

What the others have said ,get you Citizenship first .After a year back in Ireland you may be wishing to get out into the wider World again .Especially when your parents die ,you may find Ireland no longer holds any draws .Thats what happened in my case .

Zambia · 29-10-2014 9:00am

Where are you dude?

Timistry · 29-10-2014 3:10pm

Hey guys, sorry for the late reply, busy day!!

I have 42 weeks to go until I am eligible to apply for citizenship (got PR 15th August). It seems that the consensus here is that I try and stick it out until then...

I have been looking at jobs here but mostly in Perth. Perhaps a change of scenery is what I need. It will make the time go faster. I love Melbourne for instance

catbear · 29-10-2014 3:32pm

Timistry wrote: »

I have been looking at jobs here but mostly in Perth. Perhaps a change of scenery is what I need. It will make the time go faster. I love Melbourne for instance

Sounds like a good plan. I know a few lads in the same boat as yourself who had to move east for work and ended up liking it a lot more than Perth. You might even change your mind about heading back soon!

Saipanne · 29-10-2014 3:33pm

Yer Aul One wrote: »

There is a tonne of jobs in Dublin, especially in finance

Yup. My phone is hopping.

Timistry · 29-10-2014 4:01pm

Unfortunately im not qualified in any financial or IT related jobs. If I was I could pick up a job in Dublin no problem. Funnily enough I have many friends in these sectors and they walked into jobs after returning from oz. FYI, im an environmental scientist.

Saipanne · 29-10-2014 4:08pm

Timistry wrote: »

Unfortunately im not qualified in any financial or IT related jobs. If I was I could pick up a job in Dublin no problem. Funnily enough I have many friends in these sectors and they walked into jobs after returning from oz. FYI, im an environmental scientist.

What jobs would you hope to get?

podgemonster · 29-10-2014 5:22pm

Timistry wrote: »

I was made redundant from work 2 weeks ago I came out here 4 and a half years ago as a graduate (suitcase on my own) and I have been working ever since. Not exactly in my envisaged career but 457 visas complicated things....:rolleyes: Now I have PR so it doesn't matter

Things are picking up now in Eire and the UK. I have applied for a few jobs and have been put forward for interview. I have also applied for jobs in Oz including a seemingly dream job and I have gotten a good response so far.

But alas, my heart tells me that I want to go home!! Since I left work I have no-one to call a close friend. The parents are retiring next month and the mother has been very sick of late. My friends in Ireland seem to be living the high life going here there and everywhere whilst I have been working away here and have zero craic. 4 years basically on your own working is a long time especially in the prime of your life. It makes me panic like a mid life crisis!!

So basically I have decided, feck it I wanna go home. Life is too short to be unhappy and to feel empty inside. I have no doubt that I will be back to Oz and the PR will facilitate that. I will give 1-2 years and see how i feel.

So kind people of boards, am I mad???

Come home.

witnessrenegade · 30-10-2014 6:44am

Nothing wrong with going home, I am myself, enjoyed my time in Oz but I enjoy Ireland much more

SameDiff · 30-10-2014 7:28am

Go back to Ireland, someone else will be glad of your job in Perth.

Sundy · 30-10-2014 7:53am

SameDiff wrote: »

Go back to Ireland, someone else will be glad of your job in Perth.

If you read his post you would have noticed that he doesn't have a job.

maryk123 · 30-10-2014 8:26am

You have done your time. Come home. You sound like you miss family and friends in Ireland. Life is toooo short. Come home

atilladehun · 30-10-2014 8:44am

I know the feeling. I came home four years ago and can identify. It's taken me a good few years to catch up on my career here but I wouldn't and didn't let that deter me. I miss oz at times but I am happier and more fulfilled at home. I would seriously consider the ten months in another city or better yet if you afford to travel around then do so. I Said I'd be back soon and really I've no prospect of getting back that soon. Life gets in the way. Having citizenship would be fantastic. best of luck with the decision.

irishmover · 30-10-2014 8:54am

I considered it myself but I'm almost a year to the date away from applying for citizenship. Will definitely stick it out and get the passport then consider after that.

Just know I'll regret it in 10 years if I would want to return here knowing I'd need to pay all that money and go through that process again to get PR.

What difference will one more year here make to you though?

Come over to the east side. Brisbane is a good spot to live and see if you can make the most of the year.

Ireland will still be there next Christmas.

SameDiff · 30-10-2014 8:59am

Sundy wrote: »

If you read his post you would have noticed that he doesn't have a job.

What's he moaning about then?

SameDiff · 30-10-2014 9:00am

maryk123 wrote: »

You have done your time. Come home. You sound like you miss family and friends in Ireland. Life is toooo short. Come home

Jesus.

Zambia · 30-10-2014 9:33am

SameDiff wrote: »

What's he moaning about then?

Mate your on thin ice try and be constructive or at least civil.

Timistry · 30-10-2014 4:46pm

Thanks for the advice guys. An update:

I contacted 2 past colleagues from my previous company. Both were general managers and left over a year ago to start up their own company. Its going well so far. I pitched the idea that I work for them and they said yes on the spot. I start on Tuesday and work until the the start of December.

On 8th Dec I have a wedding to go to in VIC and I have flights booked to go home on the 13th with a return flight to Perth on the 3rd Jan. This was all booked in May. The plan now is to change arrival destination from Perth to Melbourne and go from there.

What is the normal wait time for a passport from the day the paperwork is submitted?

Timistry · 30-10-2014 5:17pm

I have just been looking at the requirements needed to apply for citizenship. I was not aware of the following condition: you must not be absent for no more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.

I was under the impression that you only have to be in the country for 12 months within the 5 year life on the visa.

Mellor · 30-10-2014 11:11pm

Timistry wrote: »

I have just been looking at the requirements needed to apply for citizenship. I was not aware of the following condition: you must not be absent for no more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.

I was under the impression that you only have to be in the country for 12 months within the 5 year life on the visa.

You have to have spent 4 years lawfully in the country
Including at least 1 year on a PR visa
Have to have spent 9 of the previous 12 month in the country also (ir not absent for more than 90 days)

irishmover · 30-10-2014 11:34pm

Mellor wrote: »

You have to have spent 4 years lawfully in the country
Including at least 1 year on a PR visa
Have to have spent 9 of the previous 12 month in the country also (ir not absent for more than 90 days)

Also not absent from the country for more than 1 year over the 4 years including the 90 days the year immediately before applying.

It seems reasonable to be honest.

I'm guessing you won't meet that criteria if you go home now until January OP? It may end up just meaning that you won't be able to apply until January 2016 then. Which if you do it right won't matter as the ceremony is Australia day/day before so even if you were eligible in September, unless I missed something, you wouldn't get your passport until after the january 26th or 25th ceremony.

Open to correction though.

Mellor · 31-10-2014 12:03am

irishmover wrote: »

Also not absent from the country for more than 1 year over the 4 years including the 90 days the year immediately before applying.

Ah thats it, had a feeling there was was some thing else.

Which if you do it right won't matter as the ceremony is Australia day/day before so even if you were eligible in September, unless I missed something, you wouldn't get your passport until after the january 26th or 25th ceremony.

There's more than one ceremony per year. Australia day is just popular day to have them.
They are on all through out the year, depending on your council

irishmover · 31-10-2014 1:32am

Mellor wrote: »

Ah thats it, had a feeling there was was some thing else.

There's more than one ceremony per year. Australia day is just popular day to have them.
They are on all through out the year, depending on your council

Yeah I always thought that after September they try to pigeon hole everyone who is waiting on a ceremony until Australia day? So almost half the year. Which is why I was thinking that regardless of whether he completed everything in September 2015 he would still have to wait until January.

You know if this would be the case for Brisbane? or is it as you said just varies depending on council.

I'll be eligible to apply October 27th 2015. So I've a strong feeling that it will be Australia day when my ceromony would be if I completed everything early November.

Mellor · 31-10-2014 2:02am

irishmover wrote: »

Yeah I always thought that after September they try to pigeon hole everyone who is waiting on a ceremony until Australia day? So almost half the year. Which is why I was thinking that regardless of whether he completed everything in September 2015 he would still have to wait until January.

Nothing like that in my council anyway. The dates for 2014 were;

Sunday 26 January (Australia Day)
Thursday 6 February
Thursday 6 March
Thursday 3 April
Thursday 8 May
Thursday 5 June
Thursday 3 July
Thursday 7 August
Thursday 4 September
Thursday 9 October
Thursday 6 November
Thursday 4 December

irishmover · 31-10-2014 2:07am

Mellor wrote: »

Nothing like that in my council anyway. The dates for 2014 were;

You beauty. Might possibly have my ceremony before Christmas. Hoping to fly home to see the family then! Youll be to blame if that's not the case Mellor!!

J Mysterio · 31-10-2014 2:09am

What's PR? How long do you need to be there/ work there to get citizenship?

massdebater · 31-10-2014 2:13am

irishmover wrote: »

You know if this would be the case for Brisbane? or is it as you said just varies depending on council.

I'll be eligible to apply October 27th 2015. So I've a strong feeling that it will be Australia day when my ceremony would be if I completed everything early November.

Not sure what Brisbane council is like for dates, I know Melbourne has one mid-November (12th Nov this year) then the next one is Australia Day. I tried to google the Brisbane one but it just gives a phone number for you to call. I assume there is an option to travel interstate to do the ceremony though or does it need to be done in your local council?

irishmover · 31-10-2014 2:20am

massdebater wrote: »

Not sure what Brisbane council is like for dates, I know Melbourne has one mid-November (12th Nov this year) then the next one is Australia Day. I tried to google the Brisbane one but it just gives a phone number for you to call. I assume there is an option to travel interstate to do the ceremony though or does it need to be done in your local council?

Mind flicking me that number? Will call myself when I get a minute free in work.

massdebater · 31-10-2014 2:28am

irishmover wrote: »

Mind flicking me that number? Will call myself when I get a minute free in work.

Taken from http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/community-support/multicultural-services/citizenship-information

Initial enquiries regarding Australian citizenship, applications and approval should be directed to the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC). The department is open 8.30am to 4.30pm Monday to Friday and can be contacted directly on 131 880.

Once your application is approved, contact DIAC about attending a citizenship ceremony.

Mellor · 31-10-2014 2:44am

That only refers to the Brisbane city council (ie the CBD), there's prob 50+ other councils in Qld. Depending on where you live exactly, there will probably be one nearby in october or november.

aido79 · 31-10-2014 2:46am

J Mysterio wrote: »

What's PR? How long do you need to be there/ work there to get citizenship?

With questions like those you'll probably never need to know the answers..

SameDiff · 31-10-2014 2:47am

Zambia wrote: »

Mate your on thin ice try and be constructive or at least civil.

I'm not your 'mate'

Timistry · 31-10-2014 3:23am

I will satisfy the 1 year in 4 requirement, that's why I didn't mention it

I'm away for 3 weeks at Xmas so I have another 6 weeks of leeway before I breach the 90 day rule

aido79 · 31-10-2014 3:24am

removed quote of deleted post - mod

irishmover · 31-10-2014 4:01am

Mellor wrote: »

That only refers to the Brisbane city council (ie the CBD), there's prob 50+ other councils in Qld. Depending on where you live exactly, there will probably be one nearby in october or november.

The BCC extends further than the CBD. Quite a number of suburbs are in BCC regulations. I'm definitely well inside BCC so will see what they say.

Sundy · 31-10-2014 4:20am

SameDiff wrote: »

I'm not your 'mate'

This is the aussie form mate. If you dont like it leave*

Mellor · 31-10-2014 6:09am

irishmover wrote: »

The BCC extends further than the CBD. Quite a number of suburbs are in BCC regulations. I'm definitely well inside BCC so will see what they say.

My point was that there's more options than just BCC in the brisbane area. Have a look around the other other council websites and see if there's one coming up. If not, there's a few availible in sydney.

SameDiff · 31-10-2014 6:36am

Sundy wrote: »

This is the aussie form mate. If you dont like it leave

This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.

irishmover · 31-10-2014 6:48am

SameDiff wrote: »

This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.

Same difference, mate.

Sundy · 31-10-2014 6:55am

SameDiff wrote: »

This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.

catbear · 31-10-2014 6:57am

irishmover wrote: »

Same difference, mate.

Aussie sub forum on an Irish social website. Is there an Australian equivalent of boards.ie?

Seriously comtempleting going home

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