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Seriously comtempleting going home

  • 28-10-2014 6:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭


    I was made redundant from work 2 weeks ago :( I came out here 4 and a half years ago as a graduate (suitcase on my own) and I have been working ever since. Not exactly in my envisaged career but 457 visas complicated things....:rolleyes: Now I have PR so it doesn't matter :)

    Things are picking up now in Eire and the UK. I have applied for a few jobs and have been put forward for interview. I have also applied for jobs in Oz including a seemingly dream job and I have gotten a good response so far.

    But alas, my heart tells me that I want to go home!! Since I left work I have no-one to call a close friend. The parents are retiring next month and the mother has been very sick of late. My friends in Ireland seem to be living the high life going here there and everywhere whilst I have been working away here and have zero craic. 4 years basically on your own working is a long time especially in the prime of your life. It makes me panic like a mid life crisis!!

    So basically I have decided, feck it I wanna go home. Life is too short to be unhappy and to feel empty inside. I have no doubt that I will be back to Oz and the PR will facilitate that. I will give 1-2 years and see how i feel.

    So kind people of boards, am I mad???


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Feckthis


    Stay out there until you can find a suitable job in Ireland. They say the economy is picking up but I don't see it. Unless your from Dublin of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Yer Aul One


    There is a tonne of jobs in Dublin, especially in finance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭lukegriffen


    Well the decision is between a dream job with no craic for another couple of years 'v' (presumably) a fairly decent job & close to friends & family ?

    If you decide to come home, if you haven't seen any of the country, take at least a month off to see Australia. It's amazing how fast 10 or 15 years can pass by :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    You've got your PR so no drama.

    If where you are now isn't holding you and Ireland doesn't work out then try a different part of Australia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭Sundy


    Stay until you have your citizenship, its got to be pretty close for you now. Hundred times better than PR and then you could come back in 10 years if they economy coin flips again.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Get your Aussie passport first!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    How long have you have PR?
    With 4+ years under your belt, it'd be crazy to go home now if you've anything close to 12 months on PR.

    Are you aware of the difference citizenship makes over PR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭Sundy


    Mellor wrote: »
    Are you aware of the difference citizenship makes over PR.

    Previously I had thought there was little difference. Read up on resident return visas and getting them etc and I realised the difference. PR is really only good if you plan on being a resident (logical when you think about it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭sin_city


    Get your passport. You've stuck around this long............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b3XTj5G_SA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    What the others have said ,get you Citizenship first .After a year back in Ireland you may be wishing to get out into the wider World again .Especially when your parents die ,you may find Ireland no longer holds any draws .Thats what happened in my case .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Where are you dude?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Timistry


    Hey guys, sorry for the late reply, busy day!!

    I have 42 weeks to go until I am eligible to apply for citizenship (got PR 15th August). It seems that the consensus here is that I try and stick it out until then...

    I have been looking at jobs here but mostly in Perth. Perhaps a change of scenery is what I need. It will make the time go faster. I love Melbourne for instance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Timistry wrote: »
    I have been looking at jobs here but mostly in Perth. Perhaps a change of scenery is what I need. It will make the time go faster. I love Melbourne for instance
    Sounds like a good plan. I know a few lads in the same boat as yourself who had to move east for work and ended up liking it a lot more than Perth. You might even change your mind about heading back soon!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    There is a tonne of jobs in Dublin, especially in finance

    Yup. My phone is hopping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Timistry


    Unfortunately im not qualified in any financial or IT related jobs. If I was I could pick up a job in Dublin no problem. Funnily enough I have many friends in these sectors and they walked into jobs after returning from oz. FYI, im an environmental scientist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Timistry wrote: »
    Unfortunately im not qualified in any financial or IT related jobs. If I was I could pick up a job in Dublin no problem. Funnily enough I have many friends in these sectors and they walked into jobs after returning from oz. FYI, im an environmental scientist.

    What jobs would you hope to get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    Timistry wrote: »
    I was made redundant from work 2 weeks ago :( I came out here 4 and a half years ago as a graduate (suitcase on my own) and I have been working ever since. Not exactly in my envisaged career but 457 visas complicated things....:rolleyes: Now I have PR so it doesn't matter :)

    Things are picking up now in Eire and the UK. I have applied for a few jobs and have been put forward for interview. I have also applied for jobs in Oz including a seemingly dream job and I have gotten a good response so far.

    But alas, my heart tells me that I want to go home!! Since I left work I have no-one to call a close friend. The parents are retiring next month and the mother has been very sick of late. My friends in Ireland seem to be living the high life going here there and everywhere whilst I have been working away here and have zero craic. 4 years basically on your own working is a long time especially in the prime of your life. It makes me panic like a mid life crisis!!

    So basically I have decided, feck it I wanna go home. Life is too short to be unhappy and to feel empty inside. I have no doubt that I will be back to Oz and the PR will facilitate that. I will give 1-2 years and see how i feel.

    So kind people of boards, am I mad???

    Come home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭witnessrenegade


    Nothing wrong with going home, I am myself, enjoyed my time in Oz but I enjoy Ireland much more


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭SameDiff


    Go back to Ireland, someone else will be glad of your job in Perth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭Sundy


    SameDiff wrote: »
    Go back to Ireland, someone else will be glad of your job in Perth.

    If you read his post you would have noticed that he doesn't have a job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭maryk123


    You have done your time. Come home. You sound like you miss family and friends in Ireland. Life is toooo short. Come home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    I know the feeling. I came home four years ago and can identify. It's taken me a good few years to catch up on my career here but I wouldn't and didn't let that deter me. I miss oz at times but I am happier and more fulfilled at home. I would seriously consider the ten months in another city or better yet if you afford to travel around then do so. I Said I'd be back soon and really I've no prospect of getting back that soon. Life gets in the way. Having citizenship would be fantastic. best of luck with the decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    I considered it myself but I'm almost a year to the date away from applying for citizenship. Will definitely stick it out and get the passport then consider after that.

    Just know I'll regret it in 10 years if I would want to return here knowing I'd need to pay all that money and go through that process again to get PR.

    What difference will one more year here make to you though?

    Come over to the east side. Brisbane is a good spot to live and see if you can make the most of the year.

    Ireland will still be there next Christmas.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭SameDiff


    Sundy wrote: »
    If you read his post you would have noticed that he doesn't have a job.

    What's he moaning about then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭SameDiff


    maryk123 wrote: »
    You have done your time. Come home. You sound like you miss family and friends in Ireland. Life is toooo short. Come home

    Jesus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    SameDiff wrote: »
    What's he moaning about then?

    Mate your on thin ice try and be constructive or at least civil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Timistry


    Thanks for the advice guys. An update:

    I contacted 2 past colleagues from my previous company. Both were general managers and left over a year ago to start up their own company. Its going well so far. I pitched the idea that I work for them and they said yes on the spot. I start on Tuesday and work until the the start of December.

    On 8th Dec I have a wedding to go to in VIC and I have flights booked to go home on the 13th with a return flight to Perth on the 3rd Jan. This was all booked in May. The plan now is to change arrival destination from Perth to Melbourne and go from there.

    What is the normal wait time for a passport from the day the paperwork is submitted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Timistry


    I have just been looking at the requirements needed to apply for citizenship. I was not aware of the following condition: you must not be absent for no more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.

    I was under the impression that you only have to be in the country for 12 months within the 5 year life on the visa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Timistry wrote: »
    I have just been looking at the requirements needed to apply for citizenship. I was not aware of the following condition: you must not be absent for no more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.

    I was under the impression that you only have to be in the country for 12 months within the 5 year life on the visa.

    You have to have spent 4 years lawfully in the country
    Including at least 1 year on a PR visa
    Have to have spent 9 of the previous 12 month in the country also (ir not absent for more than 90 days)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Mellor wrote: »
    You have to have spent 4 years lawfully in the country
    Including at least 1 year on a PR visa
    Have to have spent 9 of the previous 12 month in the country also (ir not absent for more than 90 days)

    Also not absent from the country for more than 1 year over the 4 years including the 90 days the year immediately before applying.

    It seems reasonable to be honest.

    I'm guessing you won't meet that criteria if you go home now until January OP? It may end up just meaning that you won't be able to apply until January 2016 then. Which if you do it right won't matter as the ceremony is Australia day/day before so even if you were eligible in September, unless I missed something, you wouldn't get your passport until after the january 26th or 25th ceremony.

    Open to correction though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    irishmover wrote: »
    Also not absent from the country for more than 1 year over the 4 years including the 90 days the year immediately before applying.
    Ah thats it, had a feeling there was was some thing else.
    Which if you do it right won't matter as the ceremony is Australia day/day before so even if you were eligible in September, unless I missed something, you wouldn't get your passport until after the january 26th or 25th ceremony.
    There's more than one ceremony per year. Australia day is just popular day to have them.
    They are on all through out the year, depending on your council


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Mellor wrote: »
    Ah thats it, had a feeling there was was some thing else.


    There's more than one ceremony per year. Australia day is just popular day to have them.
    They are on all through out the year, depending on your council

    Yeah I always thought that after September they try to pigeon hole everyone who is waiting on a ceremony until Australia day? So almost half the year. Which is why I was thinking that regardless of whether he completed everything in September 2015 he would still have to wait until January.

    You know if this would be the case for Brisbane? or is it as you said just varies depending on council.

    I'll be eligible to apply October 27th 2015. So I've a strong feeling that it will be Australia day when my ceromony would be if I completed everything early November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    irishmover wrote: »
    Yeah I always thought that after September they try to pigeon hole everyone who is waiting on a ceremony until Australia day? So almost half the year. Which is why I was thinking that regardless of whether he completed everything in September 2015 he would still have to wait until January.

    Nothing like that in my council anyway. The dates for 2014 were;
    Sunday 26 January (Australia Day)
    Thursday 6 February
    Thursday 6 March
    Thursday 3 April
    Thursday 8 May
    Thursday 5 June
    Thursday 3 July
    Thursday 7 August
    Thursday 4 September
    Thursday 9 October
    Thursday 6 November
    Thursday 4 December


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Mellor wrote: »
    Nothing like that in my council anyway. The dates for 2014 were;

    You beauty. Might possibly have my ceremony before Christmas. Hoping to fly home to see the family then! Youll be to blame if that's not the case Mellor!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    What's PR? How long do you need to be there/ work there to get citizenship?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    irishmover wrote: »
    You know if this would be the case for Brisbane? or is it as you said just varies depending on council.

    I'll be eligible to apply October 27th 2015. So I've a strong feeling that it will be Australia day when my ceremony would be if I completed everything early November.

    Not sure what Brisbane council is like for dates, I know Melbourne has one mid-November (12th Nov this year) then the next one is Australia Day. I tried to google the Brisbane one but it just gives a phone number for you to call. I assume there is an option to travel interstate to do the ceremony though or does it need to be done in your local council?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Not sure what Brisbane council is like for dates, I know Melbourne has one mid-November (12th Nov this year) then the next one is Australia Day. I tried to google the Brisbane one but it just gives a phone number for you to call. I assume there is an option to travel interstate to do the ceremony though or does it need to be done in your local council?

    Mind flicking me that number? Will call myself when I get a minute free in work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    irishmover wrote: »
    Mind flicking me that number? Will call myself when I get a minute free in work.

    Taken from http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/community-support/multicultural-services/citizenship-information
    Initial enquiries regarding Australian citizenship, applications and approval should be directed to the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC). The department is open 8.30am to 4.30pm Monday to Friday and can be contacted directly on 131 880.

    Once your application is approved, contact DIAC about attending a citizenship ceremony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    That only refers to the Brisbane city council (ie the CBD), there's prob 50+ other councils in Qld. Depending on where you live exactly, there will probably be one nearby in october or november.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    What's PR? How long do you need to be there/ work there to get citizenship?

    With questions like those you'll probably never need to know the answers..


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭SameDiff


    Zambia wrote: »
    Mate your on thin ice try and be constructive or at least civil.

    I'm not your 'mate'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Timistry


    I will satisfy the 1 year in 4 requirement, that's why I didn't mention it :p

    I'm away for 3 weeks at Xmas so I have another 6 weeks of leeway before I breach the 90 day rule


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    removed quote of deleted post - mod


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Mellor wrote: »
    That only refers to the Brisbane city council (ie the CBD), there's prob 50+ other councils in Qld. Depending on where you live exactly, there will probably be one nearby in october or november.

    The BCC extends further than the CBD. Quite a number of suburbs are in BCC regulations. I'm definitely well inside BCC so will see what they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭Sundy


    SameDiff wrote: »
    I'm not your 'mate'

    This is the aussie form mate. If you dont like it leave*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    irishmover wrote: »
    The BCC extends further than the CBD. Quite a number of suburbs are in BCC regulations. I'm definitely well inside BCC so will see what they say.
    My point was that there's more options than just BCC in the brisbane area. Have a look around the other other council websites and see if there's one coming up. If not, there's a few availible in sydney.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭SameDiff


    Sundy wrote: »
    This is the aussie form mate. If you dont like it leave

    This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭irishmover


    SameDiff wrote: »
    This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.

    Same difference, mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭Sundy


    SameDiff wrote: »
    This is the Aussie forum, mate. If you don't like it, leave.

    lnfw6.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    irishmover wrote: »
    Same difference, mate.

    Aussie sub forum on an Irish social website. Is there an Australian equivalent of boards.ie?


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