MTV's 25 hottest MC's (commercial MC's!)

mufcboy1999 · 21-02-2012 1:26am

Hugh Cream wrote: »

hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.

exactly what conor said.

the likes of drake being classed as an mc dont make me laugh.

Hugh Cream · 21-02-2012 12:47pm

That's me told, though the term mc does have a few different connotations right, or in 2012 does it strictly stand for one thing and one thing only, something that drake and such obviously are not?

conor.hogan.2 · 21-02-2012 2:29pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bRIlKuaZ4

Random Krs one clip and the two top comments should sum it up.

Hugh Cream · 21-02-2012 10:17pm

its a corporate thing v underground thing?
like i said, theres many different connotations, certain groups have taken ownership, it is what it is, which is not underground, or realism, nor is it main stream.

this whole thing of taking ownership of a word/term thats been around from day one, meaning something else back then, doesnt sit well with me.

conor.hogan.2 · 21-02-2012 10:29pm

Hugh Cream wrote: »

its a corporate thing v underground thing?
like i said, theres many different connotations, certain groups have taken ownership, it is what it is, which is not underground, or realism, nor is it main stream.

this whole thing of taking ownership of a word/term thats been around from day one, meaning something else back then, doesnt sit well with me.

No it has nothing to do with how many records you sell.

Ok Hugh, I think I prefer to go with KRS-One. I think he knows.

Hugh Cream · 21-02-2012 11:39pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

No it has nothing to do with how many records you sell.

Ok Hugh, I think I prefer to go with KRS-One. I think he knows.

That's very foolish.

mufcboy1999 · 22-02-2012 1:43am

Hugh Cream wrote: »

That's me told, though the term mc does have a few different connotations right, or in 2012 does it strictly stand for one thing and one thing only, something that drake and such obviously are not?

great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.

Boom_Bap · 22-02-2012 10:28am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.

There is no need for remarks like this.

mufcboy1999 · 22-02-2012 11:19am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.

There is no need for remarks like this.

Was it not one sarcastic comment for another ?

Boom_Bap · 22-02-2012 12:00pm

I think the previous post was a opinion that was just not elaborated on, in that Hugh values his opinion more than KRS.

Your post is a bit more personal and attacking the poster, not the post.

If you want to discuss further, take this to PM.

Hugh Cream · 22-02-2012 7:45pm

lol i value my opinion more than krs, what a load of old tosh.
krs is a hugely intelligent man, very knowledgeable on all things, hip hop included, but he can be wrong on things.
people spend so much time telling us whats not (insert subject) without telling us what it is.

its history, it can not be changed, you can not take ownership of something which does not belong to you.

conor.hogan.2 · 22-02-2012 9:28pm

Hip-Hop in the sense most people are using it here is not made up by us it is what Krs, Chuck D and other rappers, djs, etc say.

I think they have a right to say it, and it should hold a lot of weight (maybe not to Drake fans though)

Hugh Cream · 22-02-2012 9:32pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Hip-Hop in the sense most people are using it here is not made up by us it is what Krs, Chuck D and other rappers, djs, etc say.

I think they have a right to say it, and it should hold a lot of weight (maybe not to Drake fans though)

seems ive been mislead, fill me in then, what is an mc?
EDIT:Without being so pass remarkable if thats not too much to ask.

conor.hogan.2 · 22-02-2012 9:36pm

I have posted a video summing it up?

Eminem MC but Drake rapper (his raps are secondary to his music mostly)

Bobby Baccala · 22-02-2012 9:44pm

Lauryn hill MC, Nicki minaj rapper.

Hugh Cream · 22-02-2012 9:50pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I have posted a video summing it up?

Eminem MC but Drake rapper (his raps are secondary to his music mostly)

krs didnt really explain it properly, he mentioned corporate, i got the wrong end of the stick, like i normally do.
like denzel said, explain it to me like im a two year old.

conor.hogan.2 · 22-02-2012 10:19pm

You have two examples there.

"Rappers spit rhymes that are mostly illegal, MC's spit rhymes to uplift they people."

Replace illegal with money, b..ches etc

Hugh Cream · 23-02-2012 12:07am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

You have two examples there.

"Rappers spit rhymes that are mostly illegal, MC's spit rhymes to uplift they people."

Replace illegal with money, b..ches etc

your reaching.
and you havnt given an answer, what someone rhymes about does not determine anything, least of all whether they are an mc or not.

if thats what krs said hes wrong, if you are saying that because you feel thats what krs said your naive and not very well informed.

conor.hogan.2 · 23-02-2012 12:56am

Ah much better know, less cluttered with nonsense.

Hugh Cream · 23-02-2012 1:01am

i have a feeling your not really sure conor.

mufcboy1999 · 09-03-2012 10:41pm

good debate on mtv's list.

John 187 · 10-03-2012 3:34pm

Does anyone have a link to the show? Thanks

mufcboy1999 · 12-03-2012 4:16pm

John 187 wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to the show? Thanks

dont think so bud, iv been trying to watch it myself with no luck:mad:

John 187 · 12-03-2012 7:46pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

dont think so bud, iv been trying to watch it myself with no luck:mad:

Yeah I tried lot of my usual places for this type of thing and no luck.

SaucyJim · 14-03-2012 3:42pm

busta rhymes, tech n9ne, fat joe, lil jon, ludacris, nuff said

Bobby Baccala · 14-03-2012 5:08pm

SaucyJim wrote: »

busta rhymes, tech n9ne, fat joe, lil jon, ludacris, nuff said

Nuff said about what? the majority of them rappers you named are shít.

RiseToTheTop · 14-03-2012 5:43pm

I'm not even going to say the big records labels could have paid MTV to influence the ratings, MTV are too much to same as the big records labels for the result to be different.

All ring tone artists and the list was made to increase sales.

conor.hogan.2 · 15-03-2012 2:24am

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Nuff said about what? the majority of them rappers you named are shít.

What!?

Minus lil jon they are all great rappers.

Bobby Baccala · 15-03-2012 5:30pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

What!?

Minus lil jon they are all great rappers.

Tech n9ne is shocking and ludacris is horrible in my opinion.

conor.hogan.2 · 16-03-2012 8:17pm

I would say give Ludacris a chance, especially his older stuff.
One of the best from the south anyway.

mufcboy1999 · 16-03-2012 8:25pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I would say give Ludacris a chance, especially his older stuff.
One of the best from the south anyway.

without a doubt, luda is a legend his older stuff is quality.

well able to rap, dont like his newer stuff though.

you cant call songs like this horrible man imo, pretty good for a man who started out as a dj.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWQVm9J5DM

MTV's 25 hottest MC's (commercial MC's!)

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