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kildeal.ie is it a joke

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  • #52
    axer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    The Client knows his/her business and, while it may not be the case, should be assumed to not have a clue about the technology.

    The Developer knows the technology and, while it may not be the case, should be assumed to not have a clue about the client's business.

    Thus the process of successfully applying technology so as to enable an ROI for the client is one of careful and open minded analysis between the two that results in a solution that leverages the technology to the benefit of a client's business.
    all in the ideal world of course.


  • #53
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    You're here to defend yourself so it's a fair fight, the company you attacked are not, so it's cowardly.
    Ok fair point, but as I have said I never meant it as an attack in anyway I'm just surprised how they are getting business with the state that their own website is in and also how they don't make it clear that the €395 is for a templated site.


  • #54
    axer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    donnaille wrote: »
    Ok fair point, but as I have said I never meant it as an attack in anyway I'm just surprised how they are getting business with the state that their own website is in and also how they don't make it clear that the €395 is for a templated site.
    If they do get business with their bad website does that not prove their practice that bad cheap websites will still get business.


  • #55
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    axer wrote: »
    If they do get business with their bad website does that not prove their practice that bad cheap websites will still get business.
    Never said they didn't, I said I found it hard to believe. Is this just arguing for fun now?


  • #56
    axer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    donnaille wrote: »
    Never said they didn't, I said I found it hard to believe. Is this just arguing for fun now?
    My point is valid. If they do get business with their badly designed/built website then it shows that the crap they produce, which seems to be better than their own website even though templates, could also help a client get business.

    I remember reading a study that showed that most people don't pay attention to the designs of websites once they can get the information they want easily enough - can't remember where I read it though.


  • #57
    information
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭information


    There is a market for cheap simple websites.

    I work in a software company, because it's IT, I get lots of my clients asking me about websites (which we don't do). "we need to get a website sorted, do you know anyone". I know a good few ladz doing it, so I pass on their details.

    My client will say that the price is madness and all they want is a website that looks like their brochures with contact details, product info etc..

    If any of you guys are finding times tough, offer the template option to clients, (even rebrand it as a different company), say to clients
    given us the info you wnat on the site,
    offer then 2 or 3 templates ask them to choose what they want.
    Charge them 300 and you'll clean up.

    I am seriously considering doing it myself and getting some guy to do the customisation (take 2 hours max) * €50 = € 100, € 200 for my time selling it (1 hour).
    That's before you get hosting and domain fees + maintenance.

    So its.

    What do you want ?
    Nice looking website with your product and contact details, that you can use to promote your business online.

    How much does it cost ?
    € 300* (we can do hosting and domain name also at extra price)

    How does it work ?
    You email us the text you want on the site.
    We show you 3 options, you pick the one you like.
    Pay us the money and the site goes live (we can do it in lees than a day)

    What happens if I need to update my details ?
    We will do content updates to your site for € 20 per go.


  • #58
    information
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭information


    You could probably even automate a script to do it.
    The €200 euro website

    0: pick domain name

    1: Enter Company Name

    2: Upload Company Logo ( link to explain how, file format ) No logo we can do one from €50

    3: Enter contact details

    4: Enter product or service name
    5: Enter product or serivice details
    REPEAT

    6:Enter Company details to appear on front page.

    Script takes all the details purts it in an xml file, then links to several different style sheets, get client to pick one.

    Go to payment screen, enter CC details, site goes live (takes a where for name to come through)


  • #59
    yeraulone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭yeraulone


    *shudders*


  • #60
    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    I think people are quick to confuse web businesses with brick and mortar businesses. There's a big difference between a site where the site is the business and a brochure site for a carpet retail company.

    Free market economics determine whether a business is successful or not. If making bargain basement websites is all people need, then bargain basement web developers will prevail.
    One could of course assume that, as a result, "samey" template websites will saturate and mature the market, creating a desire for unique websites amongst regular businesses. One could assume that's the long tail (but it may not be all that long).

    If you're ahead of the curve you might be a bit tight for a couple of years... if you're a "designer" before you're a businessperson (but that argument may as well be Mac vs PC). There's talk of a big move this year to the web as a marketing platform, but there's also a global economic turndown.

    Personally, I think a smart freelancer or small web dev company would be prepared for both bargain basement and highly tailored solutions. Creating simple template sites where you can jam in a logo or change a colour scheme, and create these sites such that it will be easy for you to migrate the "simple" site into a more complicated big brother if/when the company desires it.

    a) you can make some fast money at the low end
    a.1) corollary: you have capital
    b) you develop a large, satisfied client list fast
    b.1) corollary: your name is spreading
    b.2) corollary: you create future opportunities for yourself

    If you don't try to trick people into thinking they're getting something they're not you'll be running a respected, well off business.


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  • #61
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    *clicks kildeal.ie* my eyes! my eyes! *hits back button*


  • #62
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    My experience is that websites that you charge €300 are likely to take up a massively disproportionate amount of your time.

    The most common cause of delay on every single site I have worked on has been finalising content. If you don't put in a CMS, then you have to make all the little tweaks that are asked for, which is annoying and time consuming. If you do put in a CMS, then you are not in the €300 - €500 market.

    I don't think you can really charge for updates as part of the development process either - so the time really adds up. I only do a bit of occasional work in my spare time, and I just do not find it worth my while to do the small sites.

    Anyway - to get back (sort of) on topic: the site critiques you see in this forum are done by people who are looking for problems on the site. That's the nature of a critique, and the nature of the people in the business. Quite often, the point of view of the end user isn't really thought about as much.

    One example was someone here who recently posted a site he did for a solicitor. There was lots of valid and helpful suggestions, but at the end of the day, the first version he did would have been absolutely fine for someone who wanted to find out about the company.

    So, with that in mind, their portfolio is clearly made up of templates. That's clear to people in the know, but to most people looking for a site, they are decent enough looking sites. Add in a cheap price, and you can see why they get business.

    Edit - I think their own site looks appalling by any standard, but obviously people can see past that and at the price tag and the portfolio that they probably don't know are templates.


  • #63
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    I think it's a bit ironic though that they are buying templates that are not standards compliant when they could pop in to

    http://www.opensourcetemplates.org/
    http://www.oswd.org/
    http://www.opendesigns.org/

    and grab a pretty decent template that is standards compliant (and better for seo as a result), accessible and free. Maybe we should be discussing their stupidity.


  • #64
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I would say that standards compliance means next to nothing to their clients.


  • #65
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    eoin_s wrote: »
    I would say that standards compliance means next to nothing to their clients.

    I'm not saying it would. I'm saying given a toss up between paying for a non-standards compliant template or downloading a free one that looks as good and comes with little bonuses like compliance/accessibility and so on which should we pick as the designer selling the product.


  • #66
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Personally, I think the graphic-heavy templates are more likely to wow someone who doesn't know too much about this stuff, more than the rather minimalist compliant templates. Plus, they also sometimes have the added "bonus" of coming with dodgy logos etc that are presumably also sold on.


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  • #67
    The Mighty Ken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    eoin_s wrote: »
    I would say that standards compliance means next to nothing to their clients.

    I've worked with clients that have difficulty turning on their computers. Doesn't mean I'm not going to do a good job for them just because they don't understand the intricacies of my trade.

    There's a gobsmacking amount of ignorance on this thread. Any designers or developers who subscribe to the whole 'race to the bottom' attitude of knocking out poorly built websites for next to nothing should really get out of the industry now before they do anymore damage. There's a word for you - cowboys.
    information wrote: »
    the above is why web developers make useless sales people, and very few will ever grow a sustainable, profitable company.

    While sales people will continue to push sub-standard Web design and development services to uneducated clients and perpetuate the appalling standard of Web design in Ireland. Personally... I'd prefer to fail with my integrity intact.


  • #68
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    The Mighty Ken wrote: »
    I've worked with clients that have difficulty turning on their computers. Doesn't mean I'm not going to do a good job for them just because they don't understand the intricacies of my trade.

    Yes, but I wasn't talking about you - I was talking about the crowd that was linked to in the OP, and why it's not particularly ironic that they don't go for standards compliant templates - because they don't care, and the chances are that their clients don't care either.


  • #69
    The Mighty Ken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    eoin_s wrote: »
    Yes, but I wasn't talking about you - I was talking about the crowd that was linked to in the OP, and why it's not particularly ironic that they don't go for standards compliant templates - because they don't care, and the chances are that their clients don't care either.

    Indeed... but that doesn't make it right.


  • #70
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    The Mighty Ken wrote: »
    Any designers or developers who subscribe to the whole 'race to the bottom' attitude of knocking out poorly built websites for next to nothing should really get out of the industry now before they do anymore damage. There's a word for you - cowboys.

    Again, if the customer is happy, and if 99% of Internet users are happy, the opinion of an elitist like you is irrelevant.

    Just because Kildeal offer cheap websites and use templates does not mean they're cowboys. You can't compete with them on price, and they can't compete with you on standards compliance. Guess which one the customer cares about? :)


  • #71
    The Mighty Ken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Again, if the customer is happy, and if 99% of Internet users are happy, the opinion of an elitist like you is irrelevant.

    Absolute and utter nonsense. If you're producing poor quality product for your client and they're happy because they don't know the difference then you're a cowboy. Plain and simple.

    Being a professional and doing a good, responsible job for your client doesn't make you an elitist. That's just dumb.
    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Just because Kildeal offer cheap websites and use templates does not mean they're cowboys.

    I know. I understand that there's a market for customised templates but unfortunately most template resellers equate themselves to bespoke design/development providers and masquerade as something which they clearly aren't. That makes them cowboys IMO.
    AARRRGH wrote: »
    You can't compete with them, that's fair enough

    I don't sell templates and I work with a very different target audience than template resellers so we're not even in competition with each other.
    AARRRGH wrote: »
    but to call them cowboys is ridiculous.

    Not as ridiculous as saying that advocating Web standards, best practices for usability, accessibility, UX, etc is 'elitist'.

    I'm not saying that knocking out templates is a bad business. Making a quick buck usually isn't.


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  • #72
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I understand you really care about original design and standards compliance, and I agree those things are nice, but in the real world they're simply not very important.

    Tbh you sound like a classically trained musician complaining about popular music. Yeah, it sucks that people like Britney Spears, but that's reality.

    You are definitely an elitist :) but that's ok, the world needs people like you!


  • #73
    The Mighty Ken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    I understand you really care about original design and standards compliance, and I agree those things are nice, but in the real world they're simply not very important.

    Yes they are. You probably just don't understand why.


  • #74
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    The Mighty Ken wrote: »
    Yes they are. You probably just don't understand why.

    Ah... you haven't changed a bit Ken.

    I think you'll find most websites are not standards compliant (nor particularly original) yet nearly everyone who uses the Internet hasn't noticed nor gives a damn.

    Again, I understand these things are important to you, but just because they're important to you does not mean they're important to everyone else.

    Seriously, try to look beyond yourself and see the bigger picture.


  • #75
    The Mighty Ken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Ah... you haven't changed a bit Ken.

    I think you'll find most websites are not standards compliant (nor particularly original) yet nearly everyone who uses the Internet hasn't noticed nor gives a damn.

    Again, I understand these things are important to you, but just because they're important to you does not mean they're important to everyone else.

    Seriously, try to look beyond yourself and see the bigger picture.

    Haha. I don't see what any of this has to do with me personally. If you want to turn this into a personal attack then I suggest your make yourself known publicly at least.

    The topic is about whether or not it's okay to knock out low quality, customised templates. Let's stick to it.


  • #76
    heggie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭heggie


    if they are not important AARRRGH, why are myself and plenty of others getting work re-doing these cowboy websites?

    Perhaps with the slow availability of broadband and general internet access in Ireland, we are running a bit behind other countries, but now more than ever a proper website is very important, and clients who didn't know better originally are starting to realise that.


  • #77
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    The attitude of some people on this thread sickens me. Implying that abusing a customer's ignorance, giving them re-sold templates is *okay* once you are making business out of it! - What has this country gone to.

    Personally if I was a customer and some day came across a site that looked exactly the same as mine from joe down the road, then that would put me raging *if* I wasn't told that it was a template I was getting. Fair enough if they do, but I doubt it very much they do.

    Its no wonder they say "We create a range of designs to suit your needs." - Why don't they just send the customer to the template websites and get them to pick from there instead of tricking them into fact that they are 'designing' these sites for them. I would be even more angry if I was the one that created the templates and seeing business using them as their designs.

    I'm sorry, I don't care what people say here, but what they are doing is down right wrong.


  • #78
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I doubt the people who produce templates for mass use really give a crap who claims designed it, but that is not the point.

    I completely agree that it is wrong to sell a template based on the premise that it is a unique design. That, of course, also applies to those who use compliant templates from the likes of oswd.org. The compliance, or lack thereof, isn't as downright dishonest and bad practice.

    For the record, my earlier post was to say how I could see how they are getting business: cheap prices, colourful and shiny portfolio, and most likely clueless customers.


  • #79
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    The attitude of some people on this thread sickens me... What has this country gone to... I don't care what people say here, but what they are doing is down right wrong.

    Ah will you stop being so dramatic. They're just basic websites based on a template. Seriously now, their customers want a cheap website and they are giving them a cheap website.

    If they were charging their customers a few thousand, and claiming it was original design and standards compliant, I would agree that they are a bit of a rip-off, but with some of the replies here you'd swear they were mugging old grannies.

    EDIT: For the record, I don't like their websites and would never use their service, but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't be entitled to use their service and be happy with them. Not everything needs to be fancy pants.


  • #80
    information
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭information


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    The attitude of some people on this thread sickens me. Implying that abusing a customer's ignorance, giving them re-sold templates is *okay* once you are making business out of it! - What has this country gone to.
    You have your own opinion and you are so caught up in it, that you can even understand what other people are posting.
    No one ever said it was fine to trick clients into thinking they are getting a bespoke website and give them a template, you are changing the arguement to suit your point.

    1: kildeal sell template websites (they may also do other stuff also)
    2: You assume that they tell their clients that each site is unique to them, they could very well tell the customers taht this is a template and used by a few other companies on the web, that is how we can charge such a good price

    Webmonkey wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I don't care what people say here, but what they are doing is down right wrong.
    You don't know what they are doing, what you think they do, and what they actually do, could be completely different.

    ***My only point is that there is a market for cheap websites and templates are fine for this purpose/some people.
    That is a fact, not opinion, that's what the OP said this thread was about, discussing template companies.
    People here are attacking kildeal based on what they think they do, with no facts to back it up, shame on you all.


  • #81
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    2: You assume that they tell their clients that each site is unique to them, they could very well tell the customers taht this is a template and used by a few other companies on the web, that is how we can charge such a good price
    Pretty obvious they aren't telling the customers they are templates with items on the homepage such as
    "OUR WEBSITES STAND OUT FROM THE CROWD !!"

    and also "Step 2" on this image -
    http://www.kildeal.ie/images/Image4.jpg
    All of this implies unique to me and I can imagine it implies the same to their customers, so I can't really see how your argument stands on this.


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  • #82
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    donnaille wrote: »
    Pretty obvious they aren't telling the customers they are templates with items on the homepage such as
    "OUR WEBSITES STAND OUT FROM THE CROWD !!"

    That's typical sales talk and is used in every industry.

    If you want to change the topic to "sales people are sleazy" well then I'll be your best friend :) but I think kildeal are getting a bit of an unfair deal just because they make cheap websites.


  • #83
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    That's typical sales talk and is used in every industry.

    If you want to change the topic to "sales people are sleazy" well then I'll be your best friend :) but I think kildeal are getting a bit of an unfair deal just because they make cheap websites.

    Just pointing out the flaws in previous arguments.


  • #84
    Solarpitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Solarpitch


    KilDeal is probably after getting more traffic than any of our sites over the last few days :) ... you know what they say... any publicity is good publicity! I can almost hear there sales phone ringing off the hook!...almost :rolleyes:


  • #85
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    To be fair I think a mod should take out all references to the actual company name. As bad as they are, I would hate to have this thead appear 5/6th in google search when searching for their company name.


  • #86
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Solarpitch wrote: »
    I can almost hear there sales phone ringing off the hook!...almost :rolleyes:

    I think thats one of the problems another poster had with them, the phone was ringing off the hook and has been for the last month when he rang about a problem :D


  • #87
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    To be fair I think a mod should take out all references to the actual company name. As bad as they are, I would hate to have this thead appear 5/6th in google search when searching for their company name.

    I agree. This thread could potentially ruin their business.


  • #88
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    I agree. This thread could potentially ruin their business.

    How so? We are after all just a bunch of web developers spouting off about standards that the average punter cares not a jot about.


  • #89
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    musician wrote: »
    How so? We are after all just a bunch of web developers spouting off about standards that the average punter cares not a jot about.

    This thread is now in the first page of results when you search for kildeal. As it is a highly negative thread, it is likely it will turn some potential customers off their business.

    It hasn't been a reasonable discussion, but the average Joe may not understand that. All he'll see is kildeal are a joke and a disgrace, which is really unfair.


  • #90
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    This thread is now in the first page of results when you search for kildeal. As it is a highly negative thread, it is likely it will turn some potential customers off their business.

    It hasn't been a reasonable discussion, but the average Joe may not understand that. All he'll see is kildeal are a joke and a disgrace, which is really unfair.
    Fully agree that some of the wording may be a bit harsh but the comments are just peoples opinion, I'll edit my first post and remove any of the harsh words on the company if you like?

    edit: seems I can't edit it, if one of the mods would like to change the thread title I have no problem with that, I really don't want to affect the company's business.


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  • #91
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Well there you go.


  • #92
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    I have removed some posts while I try to decide if they should be allowed or not. I don't want to censor the thread, but I don't want anything that could potentially lead to trouble either.


  • #93
    Smcgie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    Can someone explain my my thread was deleted? :confused:


  • #94
    donnaille
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭donnaille


    just noticed the mod post


  • #95
    Smcgie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    aidan_walsh wrote: »
    I have removed some posts while I try to decide if they should be allowed or not. I don't want to censor the thread, but I don't want anything that could potentially lead to trouble either.

    I understand Aidan, its quite a mouthful but I'm only expressing my anger and trying to inform others of his poor service

    Regards,
    Shane


  • #96
    Forsaken1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Forsaken1


    From looking at their sales site (which is terrible on the eyes!!)
    They do charge FROM 395 upwards, so I would expect they often end up adding in extras (such as SEO placement etc) to increase the price after the customer bites.

    I wouldnt think that a website with 3 locations: Kildare, Cork, Galway would make much money from 395 per site. Unless they got maintenance and other extras from each site.

    Their website has about 20k worth of samples from 2006 onwards.
    If there were only 3 guys one in each location they would need to be winning 3 websites a week to make a basic minimum wage.

    The admin alone in that process would be hell.
    Why work your a** off for very little gain??!

    I think they would have to have a much higher average charge per site. Around 600 or so.

    They are trying to be the Ryanair of webdesign. Not everyone that uses them has to like them...it's all about the perception of value for money.
    In the end they might pay the going rate after the Ryanair-type extras are added on...

    :D


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  • #97
    information
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭information


    Forsaken1 wrote: »
    I wouldnt think that a website with 3 locations: Kildare, Cork, Galway would make much money from 395 per site. Unless they got maintenance and other extras from each site.
    look at this guy and what he's offering and at what price
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055408293


  • #98
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    information wrote: »
    look at this guy and what he's offering and at what price
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055408293
    Yeah from 349 euro - so what? That means nothing.


  • #99
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    Yeah from 349 euro - so what? That means nothing.

    This page says "Complete Small Business Web Solution for €349 ex VAT". Doesn't seem to imply a sliding scale.


  • #100
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    eoin_s wrote: »
    This page says "Complete Small Business Web Solution for €349 ex VAT". Doesn't seem to imply a sliding scale.
    Oops, followed his post only :D

    Might I add their webpage is also a template which isn't very promising. The few client websites I checked out are all existing Joomlo templates so again, not a 'Web Design' company.

    http://www.joomla-templates.ru/rt-equinox-tabless-russian.html

    Plus signing up to boards just to reply to get work isn't a good sign either.


  • #101
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Yep, the first thing I thought was that it was a very generic looking site.

    That said, if they can really offer a CMS, eCommerce solution along with a half decent site for €349 then I am pretty impressed. Even if that's just re-branding open source packages for all three, it's pretty cheap.


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