Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

Dreddybajs · 28-09-2009 7:53pm

Of course it'll be a new disc

French website leaked screenshots, is now down but someone compiled them into a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYhIbr9AWO0

Creature · 28-09-2009 8:23pm

It'll be a new game, without a doubt. Sure, if all that new gameplay stuff is true then it'll be a quite different game to SF4. It must be.

Retr0gamer · 28-09-2009 8:38pm

Just think how differently each version of SF3 was and how different SF2CE and SSF2T is.

Monkeyto · 28-09-2009 9:07pm

Have to say that I do like the look of Juri. If we do indeed get the full shabang of characters rumoured, It's gonna be a lot of fun learning them

While they may be old characters, SFIV plays differently so leave your ST and 3S pants at home!

Cunny-Funt · 28-09-2009 10:53pm

But how will SSFIV play eh?

Btw if anyone actually clicked on that dudley pic I posted they'd have got the joke

FoamyMushroom · 28-09-2009 11:18pm

Well its pretty obvious SSFIV will be made and such..

Look on inside Xbox.. the Tokyo Game thing that went on there about a week ago, the host said that he was talking to Capcom... and all he got fro Capco was

"Where workin on something Super Secret...."

Images already leaked n so... Pretty obvious what it is.

Jim · 29-09-2009 2:54am

There's your Maximum :pac:

Clicky for bigger images.

Jim · 29-09-2009 3:02am

http://tgs.gamespot.com/video/6230545/

Interview with the producer. Some footage of T Hawk v Juri in the background. This might be the annoucement they promised? Hopefully more info is still to come if its not!

Red350 · 29-09-2009 3:03am

For those who can't read Japanese :P

http://tgs.gamespot.com/story/6230625/super-street-fighter-iv-impressions-first-look?tag=topslot;thumb;1

Jim · 29-09-2009 3:10am

Loads of info in that interview. Confirmed a new disc, but cheaper price, and something special for people who already have the first game (only thing I can think of though would be more costumes).

"Looking at around 8ish new characters.....they will almost all be ones that fans wanted" so seems they don't even know which characters exactly they are putting in. Also saying that they're looking at more things fans wanted with regarding to everything, online and gameplay. So more than likely HDRemix style lobbies and possibly a faster gameplay style?

Owwmykneecap · 29-09-2009 5:03am

Seth killian is the person playing.

FutureGuy · 29-09-2009 9:43am

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/11891-super-street-fighter-iv-confirmed-updated-/

not much extra, just some details on Juri.

animaX · 29-09-2009 10:49am

If you can read japanese http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/character.html

Placebo · 29-09-2009 11:15am

my problem is if the game system changes then thats all sf4 practice gone.
very excited all the same obviously, dont like deejay or thawk.
wouldnt mind guy, chaps had no break since alpha

Retr0gamer · 29-09-2009 12:43pm

Jim wrote: »

"Looking at around 8ish new characters.....they will almost all be ones that fans wanted" so seems they don't even know which characters exactly they are putting in. Also saying that they're looking at more things fans wanted with regarding to everything, online and gameplay. So more than likely HDRemix style lobbies and possibly a faster gameplay style?

I'd say there will be 8 new characters for the arcade with some console exclusives again when it gets released.

Mr. K · 29-09-2009 1:46pm

Capcom suggested that there'll be some sort of reward for players who have both the original SFIV and the Super version...so I'm intrigued!

Dreddybajs · 29-09-2009 1:55pm

****ty costume pack or something probably

Jim · 29-09-2009 1:58pm

Dreddybajs wrote: »

****ty costume pack or something probably

Aye, can't really think of anything else they could give without it being a disadvantage to players who don't have the original. I don't mind costumes though.

joe123 · 29-09-2009 2:24pm

Is anyone else a bit pissed off at this releasing a new version already....I know its done with the likes of Fifa but I thought Street Fighter 4 would be THE game for at least a few years,with so many people taking it serious and learning the game.

Orim · 29-09-2009 2:32pm

Eventhubs has rumours : http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/sep/24/rumors-more-street-fighter-4-upgrade-notes/

The previously leaked characters are all said to be in the game. Dee Jay, T. Hawk, Dudley, Ibuki, Makoto, Adon, Cody and Guy. The new characters are rumored to be:
Hakan - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil.

Juri - Evil Asian girl fighter working for Seth.

All characters will have two Ultras. They will both be available at one time, not selectable like with Third Strike's Super Arts. The commands to execute your Ultras do not overlap.
It sounds like the characters from Third Strike are set up with their prior Super Arts. They had three in that game, so one will be their Super and the other two their Ultras.

Gen has four Ultras because of his two fighting styles. One of these is said to be an Air Ultra.

All characters still have one Super, except Sakura who apparently has a Shinkuu Hadoken (Super Fireball) as well.

Some characters will have Air Ultras.

The Bonus Stages will be returning.

This will be an exclusive arcade release at least for a few months.

An official announcement is said to be coming at the Tokyo Game Show and on the Japanese Street Fighter 4 blog soon.

Expect the return of the many familiar Supers, and a few new ones like Metsu Shoryuken. You'll see the return of Chun-Li's Kikosho (Super Fireball), Gouken's Denjin, Sagat's Tiger Cannon (Super Fireball).

Ibuki has a run command.

Guile has his Sonic Hurricane move from Marvel vs. Capcom 2.

Dudley has his Chain combos from Third Strike, plus one additional Chain combo.

Cody is the only character with an Alpha Counter and he still has his knife. He supposedly needs his knife to perform one of his Ultras.

Rufus can cancel-break the last hit of his Spectacle Romance, or the launch kick of Space Opera Symphony.

Guy has his Chain combos.

Makoto has her Tanden Renki Super from Third Strike.

Zangief is said to have a 720 degree motion Air Ultra called the Siberian Blizzard.

The game takes place one year after Street Fighter 4.

Dudley was searching for his car in Third Strike, in this game he's searching for a rose.

T. Hawk's storyline involves him protecting Juni or Juli.

Dhalsim's new Ultra is called the Yoga Shangri'la.

There's a new gameplay system called Tadan Saving, the phrase implies a multi-hitting or multiple-level Focus Attack.

The console characters are all said to be added to the upcoming arcade release, with the possible exceptions of Seth and Gouken.

chopperbyrne · 29-09-2009 2:33pm

joe123 wrote: »

Is anyone else a bit pissed off at this releasing a new version already....I know its done with the likes of Fifa but I thought Street Fighter 4 would be THE game for at least a few years,with so many people taking it serious and learning the game.

This is for Street Fighter II. I could get the Alpha and Street Fighter III dates if you want too, not to mention King of Fighters!

Release date(s) Arcade
March 1991
April 1992 (Champion Edition)
December 1992 (Hyper Fighting)
October 1993 (Super)
April 1994 (Super Turbo)

In just over three years they released five versions of Street Fighter II in the arcade. I think the SNES had three versions in three years too.

Don't know why anyone expected a major revision for this game to be two years down the line.

Azza · 29-09-2009 2:34pm

Its in line with what they have done with previous versions of Street Fighter, a new release about a year after the first one.

The difference is this time they have the option of smaller updates via patches or DLC.

If they wanted to simply try and balance SF IV better they could of just released a patch. They could of justified by releasing that as a patch because it would cost too much and people where demanding it. But I can understand the idea behind releasing an updated version with improved online functionality and new characters, balance tweaks and probably bonus stages. People where also demanding these changes but I can't imagine they could justify developing all this and then merely updating the game with a patch.

Ono has said that while not expansion the game will not be priced as a full price game but as a budget title. Since SF IV only cost €39.99 on each platform I would assume the update at most is going cost €29.99, with and outside chance that it could be slightly lower.

Placebo · 29-09-2009 2:37pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

This is for Street Fighter II. I could get the Alpha and Street Fighter III dates if you want too, not to mention King of Fighters!

Release date(s) Arcade
March 1991
April 1992 (Champion Edition)
December 1992 (Hyper Fighting)
October 1993 (Super)
April 1994 (Super Turbo)

In just over three years they released five versions of Street Fighter II in the arcade. I think the SNES had three versions in three years too.

Don't know why anyone expected a major revision for this game to be two years down the line.

Yeah but in fairness, those entailed simple game play and the revision hardly changed the gaming system or introduce a bunch of new characters

sf4 is well in depth, requires a lot of practice etc, this all goes down the drain, further more after the 3rd release thats it, cya forever capcom so some sort of slow pace wouldnt go astray

joe123 · 29-09-2009 3:20pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

This is for Street Fighter II. I could get the Alpha and Street Fighter III dates if you want too, not to mention King of Fighters!

Release date(s) Arcade
March 1991
April 1992 (Champion Edition)
December 1992 (Hyper Fighting)
October 1993 (Super)
April 1994 (Super Turbo)

In just over three years they released five versions of Street Fighter II in the arcade. I think the SNES had three versions in three years too.

Don't know why anyone expected a major revision for this game to be two years down the line.

Thats fair enough but apart from them actually tweaking the system (where alot of practice will go to waste one major aspect has changed and thats online. Alot of the lasting appeal to street fighter 4 was the ability to always find a match online. Thats going to decrease a hell of alot now with the new game coming out in Febuary.

Really pissed off to be honest. If its under 20 quid then maybe but anything over that and its a joke.

Retr0gamer · 29-09-2009 3:28pm

I think it's fair enough and totally expected going by the updates of all past capcom fighters. Looks like a big enough improvement to warrat what they say will be a lower price point and SFIV was 40 euros on release, practically budget price. It's not like you are shelling out another 100+ euros for an expensive cartridge for a reblanced game and 4 new characters.

Orim · 29-09-2009 3:34pm

I don't think the time spent playing SFIV is going to waste as I don't think the core gameplay is going to change that much.

The ultras won't change the wasy you play aside from giving you an extra option in some situations.
The new characters just mean something else to play and learn.

Also is Spring '10 the arcade or the console release?

bush · 29-09-2009 3:38pm

Ill be buying it day one on both consoles

Jim · 29-09-2009 4:04pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csly3YrSVPQ

lol @ T Hawk's Ultra.

Juri's one looks class.

animaX · 29-09-2009 4:34pm

Jim wrote: »

Juri's one looks class.

It also looks like it will get really annoying!

Reanimemmett · 29-09-2009 4:45pm

bush wrote: »

Ill be buying it day one on both consoles

.

chopperbyrne · 29-09-2009 4:46pm

The new announcer sounds like Mr T!

"I pity the fool who takes big damage!"

animaX · 29-09-2009 5:12pm

Just realised that Juri's ultra bar has a roman numeral II while T. Hawks has I. Have they explained this stuff officially yet? Are they pre-selected or what?!

FoamyMushroom · 29-09-2009 5:30pm

is the chick a charge char? Cause if shes not.. I got a new main

.. And my god at T-hawk.. think we got a new top tier for Ultra damage... Step a side Blanka...

Orim · 29-09-2009 5:36pm

animaX wrote: »

Just realised that Juri's ultra bar has a roman numeral II while T. Hawks has I. Have they explained this stuff officially yet? Are they pre-selected or what?!

Nothing offcial yet regarding the ultras.

FoamyMushroom wrote: »

is the chick a charge char? Cause if shes not.. I got a new main

.. And my god at T-hawk.. think we got a new top tier for Ultra damage... Step a side Blanka...

I would guess from the vid that she's an input character. You can her bob up and down every so often doing the QCF x 2 dance.

If I had to guess I don't think ther will be much charge char love in these new characters. Dee Jay better be damn awesome.

FoamyMushroom · 29-09-2009 5:44pm

Good good

because I was looking at the vid there, and was looking at her 6 Hit leg combo thing... With some practice I would imagine that kick could be easily managed into an Ultra

Want..

animaX · 29-09-2009 6:27pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

I'll take great pleasure in fisting the eyesocket of up and coming Dudley players with extreme prejudice. There can only be one Boxer, lads.

Well then, let's fight like gentlemen!

bush · 29-09-2009 6:37pm

That new announcer is hilarious

joe123 · 29-09-2009 6:39pm

bush wrote: »

Ill be buying it day one on both consoles

eh why?

bush · 29-09-2009 6:49pm

joe123 wrote: »

eh why?

Cos im capcoms bitch

Jim · 29-09-2009 7:10pm

Will be getting it on xbox and pc here.

Cunny-Funt · 29-09-2009 7:35pm

Probably wont be on PC straight away as usual. But I feel a little better about buying a ps3 just for SF4 now, as I can use it for SSF4 now too hehe...

Gotta say, FAR more impressed with Juri now that I've seen her in motion compared to when I just saw her screen shots.

Someone on SRK said it best, the screen shots just made her look like skinning mod on SF4 PC . Rather then a new character.

As for the talk of being pissed at a new version of street fighter so soon? Its not out tomorrow guys, characters inputs aint all of a sudden gonna change, hopefully this will remove and tweak some of the aspects of SF4 that needs tweaking. I for one will be pissed if all this did was add characters and nothing more, I want some gameplay changes. They better add some new stages too. I look forward to this, I don't expect it any time soon however.

Summer 2010 seems most likely.

Cunny-Funt · 29-09-2009 7:58pm

Thought you didn't like playing player matches

Owwmykneecap · 29-09-2009 8:59pm

Too soon? are you people mental?

SF IV hit the arcade since July 2008.
If you want to call the Console version Champ edition, it was released in Feb 09.
Super Street Fighter IV won't be released until at least feb - may 2010 just shy off 2 years after the original.

The game needs updating. this is a good thing.

As for price I bought SF IV a week before launch for €23, it can't get much cheaper than that.

Dlc would fracture the online, a stand alone will be bought by at least all the serious players so you have no worries about finding a game.

as for Juri I reckon she has some chain inputs.

D4RK ONION · 29-09-2009 9:03pm

Can I ask you where you got it so cheap?

Owwmykneecap · 29-09-2009 9:05pm

shopto.net

Best games site there is.

Owwmykneecap · 29-09-2009 9:56pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICdpgD4eLGA

Creature · 29-09-2009 11:10pm

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

Too soon? are you people mental?

SF IV hit the arcade since July 2008.
If you want to call the Console version Champ edition, it was released in Feb 09.
Super Street Fighter IV won't be released until at least feb - may 2010 just shy off 2 years after the original.

The game needs updating. this is a good thing.

Yeah it needs a bit of tweaking and balancing that could easily be done in the form of a patch. It doesn't need tonnes of new characters and pretty heavy gameplay changes.

FoamyMushroom · 30-09-2009 12:12am

Well im agreed, there has to be some game play changes like ridiculous srk inputs..

New characters should be fun tho,

Creature · 30-09-2009 1:03am

A high quality video of the T. Hawk vs Juri video posted earlier if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBLYxnKuvs

Jim · 30-09-2009 1:35pm

"So, unfortunately, I'm sorry to say to arcade fans out there: there won't be an arcade version of this," Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono told website GamesReactor. I think a lot of people were kind of requesting an arcade update. I know that, in some parts of the world, it doesn't really matter if there's an arcade version or not," he told GamesReactor.

Interesting. Although I can't and probably never will play SF4 in an arcade this has kinda pissed me off. No mention of a PC version either

http://kotaku.com/5370877/super-street-fighter-iv-is-not-coming-to-arcades

http://www.gamereactor.se/nyheter/19583/GRTV:+Super+Street+Fighter+IV/

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