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    #32
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    cornbb wrote: »
    Lights on ftw, unless its a sunny day. Its been proven to reduce traffic accidents in studies in Ireland.

    I don't drive into my study but each to their own I guess.


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    #33
    Berty
    Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Snow-Monkey wrote: »
    i drive a skoda




    What did you drive before you started wearing beige?


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    #34
    Eoin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 21,238 CMod ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I turn mine on as soon as I start the engine. In my Alfa 156 I was able to leave them on the whole time. Rather than beeping when I turned off the engine to tell me my lights were on, it just turned them off automatically so I could just leave them in the on position.
    waraf wrote: »
    Just on a side note - I was riding my bike (back when I was a biker) through Templeogue one Saturday, head to toe in a yellow high viz suit. Woman pulls out in front of me, spots me when she's halfway across the road, panics and stops right in my path. Luckily enough I managed to stop inches from smashing into the driver's door. I gave her a severe tounge lashing (including several expletives) and her excuse was......."sorry I didn't see you". F**king Neil Armstrong could see me from space with that full dayglo suit on!!! I supose the point of the story is that cars are much easier to spot than bikes so we need to give bikers any extra help we can

    Sounds like it would have made absolutely no difference if you'd had your lights on, let alone cars having their lights on.


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    #35
    minxie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭minxie


    always have my lights on
    theres some people out there that
    cant see cars moving.....:D


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    #36
    dancingqueen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭dancingqueen


    waraf wrote: »
    Though it was fairly obvious but I'll reiterate if you like....

    Bikes should have their lights on during the day and cars shouldn't.

    This means that if a person is driving in their car they are more likely to register a headlight in their rearview mirror or in their peripheral vision as a motorcycle rather than just another car.

    The reason for this is that car drivers are often unaware of motorcyclists approaching them at speed from the rear or just filtering through traffic. Motorcyclists having their light on during the day increases the chances of them being spotted earlier by car drivers.

    If everyone including car drivers has their lights on then the bikers don't stand out from the crowd.

    I don't think I can be any clearer. It's all about biker safety as they are the most vulnerable on the road.

    Bikers do stand out in the crowd - because they zoom up your arse and bloody filter in and out and make driving way more difficult than if they just picked a space between two cars and stayed there. Does my head in


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    #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I drive a volvo so it's automatic but I've always driven with lights on before that too. Even on sunny days - especially in winter when the sun is low - it's much easier to see a car with lights on. I just don't see the point in not doing it.

    edit: people still say to me, you know your lights are on, like it's the oddest thing ever!


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    #38
    Svalbard
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Svalbard


    waraf wrote: »
    No it's safer for motorcyclists if car drivers do not drive with their lights on. You are more likely to notice a bike in your mirrors if he/she is the only one with a light on. You should know better as an ex-biker - tsk tsk....;)

    Am I the only driver who could care less if its safer for motorcyclists?
    Its been proven to improve road safety overall and thus means the motorist (i.e. me) is less likely to be killed. Why should I forgo that extra advantage for the sake of someone who chooses to ride a much more dangerous vehicle?

    Want to be safe, biker? Drive a f**king car.


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    #39
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Berty wrote: »
    What did you drive before you started wearing beige?

    A rover a volvo , saab, opel vectra :)


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    #40
    Xavi6
    Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Nope not during the day, unless it's dull and raining obviously.

    I drove over in Denmark a few weeks back and it's compulsory.


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    #41
    Tom Trojan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Tom Trojan


    No lights when in stealth mode. My onboard radar and object avoidance systems steer clear of obstructions when traveling at light speed.


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    #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,381 ✭ [Deleted User]


    it's habit from doing it over winter... i've started remembering not to automaticallty switch them on now. by summer they'll never be on during the day


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    #43
    Mrmoe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Svalbard wrote: »
    Want to be safe, biker? Drive a f**king car.

    Ah yes but then where will we get our organ donors from? You can never have enough livers you know.


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    #44
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Ah yes but then where will we get our organ donors from? You can never have enough livers you know.

    tell that to George Best


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    #45
    tman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Do you...

    ...give descriptive titles to threads?
    ...post in the correct fora?


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    #46
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tman wrote: »
    Do you...

    ...give descriptive titles to threads?
    ...post in the correct fora?


    poll or GTFO


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    #47
    Mr. Frost
    Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    Hazys wrote: »
    I think u are required to do it in Sweden.

    It should be a requirement in Ireland also. Just because its daytime doesnt mean its bright. On some really wet days, I've seen (or not seen) silver cars with no lights on, which is extremely dangerous.

    And in some States in America.

    I don't think it should be a requirement as it's not necessary most of the time (except winter, maybe) but, why can't people just use their bloody common sense and light up when it's lashing rain and dull?

    Saw an idiot taxi driver this morning at 06:15 with no lights on!!


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    #48
    [Deleted User]
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    I don't think it should be a requirement as it's not necessary most of the time (except winter, maybe) but, why can't people just use their bloody common sense and light up when it's lashing rain and dull?

    Saw an idiot taxi driver this morning at 06:15 with no lights on!!

    see there's exactly why it should be a requirement, cos then the idiots wouldn't have the choice of deciding whether it's dark or not - which clearly they are incapable of doing!


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    #49
    pajodublin
    Registered Users Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    ive no choice, as soon as i put my key in the lights come on


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    #50
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    I've driven with dipped lights or DRL for over 10 years., why? it's safer for me.

    Eircom conducted a trial back in the 1990s and had their fleet of vans/cars
    use dipped beams during the day, their accident rate across the fleet fell
    by 20 odd per cent during the trial and I know they introduced it as policy
    after the trial.


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    #51
    Aodan83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Personally, I only turn the lights when its dark, raining etc. People driving with dipped lights on during the day doesnt bother me, but at night, nothing is more irittating than a car driving towards you with dazzlingly bright lights, or full head lights on. That really gets my goat!!


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    #52
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,715 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I always drive with dipped lights on regardless of weather - my experience is that other drivers don't take stupid chances like pulling out of side roads onto a N-road in front of me, pedestrians walking out in front of the car etc.


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    #53
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Like my papi sya every one else on the road is an idiot, so expect the worse....


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