Updated GRO

shanew · 03-07-2014 2:17pm

bit intermittent at the moment, some older known results were not coming up but but think it's still on a test server/domain. Working ok just now.... definitely better for mother's maiden names on early 20thC marriages

pity they didn't add a references cross match for the early marriages

Coolnabacky1873 · 03-07-2014 2:18pm

Seems to be back working again for me

L1011 · 03-07-2014 2:20pm

Compared to Familysearch, unnamed children seem to be down as "Unknown" Surname rather than "Male" or "Female" Surname as on FS. Definitely didn't take FS's original transcriptions and build from there based on things like that and some major transcription errors I've found.

desbrook · 03-07-2014 2:27pm

This is looking very promising ! I might finally be able to work as easily in the 1950's as I do in the 1850's !!

shanew · 03-07-2014 2:29pm

I think we killed it again.... it looked like the search by district field was a bit 'iffy', and gave results not in the entered district, or any anywhere near, but the district filter link on the left of the screen worked fine

desbrook · 03-07-2014 2:31pm

shanew wrote: »

I think we killed it again.... it looked like the search by district field was a bit 'iffy', and gave results not in the entered district, or any anywhere near, but the district filter link on the left of the screen worked fine

Anyone notice if you search with a certain mother's maiden name it "loses" it ?

CassieManson · 03-07-2014 2:32pm

Coolnabacky1873 wrote: »

They cover births up to the early 1980s anyway as I just found my own index in there!

Strange how they publish births up to the 1980/90s but will not publish the census of 1926 due to Data Protection issues.

I know which I would prefer to see on-line!

pinkypinky · 03-07-2014 2:59pm

It feels terrible to be ripping it apart immediately after it launches...we were all so excited an hour ago.

Slow - hopefully only a short-term issue (loading the whole time I was typing this post).
Reports here say births up to early 1980s but I cannot find my own (from the 1970s).
Need to tick box and type any letters you like at the start is ridiculous, and have they heard of cookies? I've had to enter it 3 times in my first session already.
Need to type captchas!

I'd have more comments, if I'd actually succeeded in more than one search.

cgarvey · 03-07-2014 3:03pm

Nasty session contamination bug as well. Luckily there's no private/unpublished data involved, but search for Joe Soap and you'll get results for Jane Doe (when site is under load).

googled eyes · 03-07-2014 3:12pm

I'm a dope

pinkypinky · 03-07-2014 3:18pm

Now that I've got it working for one of my rarer surnames - I'm impressed. More details than expected and goes up to very recently deceased people.

PS4FORLOSERS · 03-07-2014 3:21pm

It is so slow!

Hopefully it's fixed soon. I got a treasure trove full of info i need to follow up on

desbrook · 03-07-2014 3:50pm

I'm guessing here but if you used to Irish version of the site might it be faster ?

L1011 · 03-07-2014 3:52pm

desbrook wrote: »

I'm guessing here but if you used to Irish version of the site might it be faster ?

Almost certainly not; it'll be the same servers.

L1011 · 03-07-2014 4:13pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

[*]Need to tick box and type any letters you like at the start is ridiculous, and have they heard of cookies? I've had to enter it 3 times in my first session already.
[*]Need to type captchas!

More Search Options and Clear All Filters avoids going through this.

Jellybaby1 · 03-07-2014 5:16pm

I've been busy today and haven't had time to check it out and won't for a couple more hours. Now I find the Boardsie genealogists went and broke it, but ye are all probably being used as testers for the site and they are fixing things as fast as ye are finding them. So by the time I get to it, it will be running like a dream. Thanks guys!

herself_there · 03-07-2014 7:31pm

Potentially a cabbage question but .... can I still order a certificate based on the info below? In the past I have used the Volume,Page,District info from the indexes when ordering copies in Werburgh St, but I see it only gives a 'Group Registration ID'.

Example:

Party 1 Name Michael Sullivan
Party 2 Name Julia O'Connor
Date of Event 23 June 1928
Group Registration ID 1455163
SR District/Reg Area Killarney

Coolnabacky1873 · 03-07-2014 7:37pm

Typically you would have to supply that information. These new marriage indexes (after a specific year) give both parties, exact date, and registration district. That information alone will allow the GRO to find the cert for you.

pjproby · 03-07-2014 7:40pm

It a huge advance. I really appreciate it.

herself_there · 03-07-2014 7:41pm

Coolnabacky1873 wrote: »

Typically you would have to supply that information. These new marriage indexes (after a specific year) give both parties, exact date, and registration district. That information alone will allow the GRO to find the cert for you.

OK lovely. So it's just a copy and paste job of all the info on the new indexes and the GRO will sort me out.

Thanks for clarifying:)

Coolnabacky1873 · 03-07-2014 7:43pm

Was messing around with the indexes and from 1903 the exact date and names of both parties are included for marriages.

L1011 · 03-07-2014 7:44pm

tonycascarino wrote: »

Only covers a few counties...or am I doing this wrong?

Only a few counties have Reg Districts with the same names - it covers all counties including NI to 1921, but it uses the Registration District names. E.g. there's no district called Kildare - its Celbridge, Naas, etc

http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Ireland-civil-registration.html

tonycascarino · 03-07-2014 7:45pm

MYOB wrote: »

Only a few counties have Reg Districts with the same names - it covers all counties including NI to 1921, but it uses the Registration District names. E.g. there's no district called Kildare - its Celbridge, Naas, etc

http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Ireland-civil-registration.html

Thanks for your help

Hermy · 03-07-2014 8:34pm

Apparently nobody by the name of Rafferty got married in Ireland.

L1011 · 03-07-2014 8:52pm

Hermy wrote: »

Apparently nobody by the name of Rafferty got married in Ireland.

3,158 showing for me.

KildareFan · 03-07-2014 10:29pm

I'm capthacha'd. I've tried to get in to the site for the last 30 minutes. It keeps giving me captcha codes, which I can't interpret. Please let me in!!!!

Hermy · 03-07-2014 10:37pm

MYOB wrote: »

3,158 showing for me.

Yes - displaying the same now for me.

Ghekko · 03-07-2014 11:59pm

Just spent about 2 hours on it! Very interesting find though!!

Hermy · 04-07-2014 12:24am

As frustrating as the site is to use - and hopefully that'll all be ironed out soon - I have filled in a load of blanks for recent events. So kudos to those who made it happen - worth waiting for.

Waitsian · 04-07-2014 6:03am

Hermy wrote: »

So kudos to those who made it happen - "worth waiting for."

Did you inadvertently quote a great film line?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28&feature=kp

shanew · 04-07-2014 8:16am

the church records section has also been revised - some of the search options moved to the advanced search, e.g. month and day

Hermy · 04-07-2014 8:35am

mod9maple wrote: »

Did you inadvertently quote a great film line?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28&feature=kp

It was quite deliberate actually.:p

Mollymoo19 · 04-07-2014 9:10am

Anyone know the position regarding marriages in Dublin North and Dublin South reg. districts, post 1919? Only about a dozen records have been uploaded so far.

shanew · 04-07-2014 9:16am

Mollymoo19 wrote: »

Anyone know the position regarding marriages in Dublin North and Dublin South reg. districts, post 1919? Only about a dozen records have been uploaded so far.

they're listed as 'Dublin'

magzer · 04-07-2014 10:44am

Found my daughters' births in the 1990s.

They only seem to have inputted the first Christian name

CassieManson · 04-07-2014 10:52am

KildareFan wrote: »

I'm capthacha'd. I've tried to get in to the site for the last 30 minutes. It keeps giving me captcha codes, which I can't interpret. Please let me in!!!!

I had the same problem, I could not read some of the captchas so I use the audio version where you have to input numbers called out. That works every time.

desbrook · 04-07-2014 12:15pm

Okay so I put my granaunt Annie Maria Bollard into FMP and get her death no problem . Born 1886 dies late 1918 . Birth too although there's a descrepency of two years and its down as Anna Maria but that's par for the course . With this new GRO search not a trace of her birth OR death - any idea why ?

shanew · 04-07-2014 1:43pm

desbrook wrote: »

Okay so I put my granaunt Annie Maria Bollard into FMP and get her death no problem . Born 1886 dies late 1918 . Birth too although there's a descrepency of two years and its down as Anna Maria but that's par for the course . With this new GRO search not a trace of her birth OR death - any idea why ?

death - Balrothery / 4th Qtr 1918 / Vol 2 / Page 350

edit : birth is on GRO also , 1884 same year as FMP, just first name. Dont see any volume/page references..

Jellybaby1 · 04-07-2014 5:17pm

I saw this on Irish Genealogy News just now....

"If you've read this far, you deserve another treat. You might need to sit down for this one. I did. I thought I'd misheard!

Joan Burton, Minister for Social Protection (and, as of half an hour ago, the new Leader of the Labour Party, and Tánaiste) made a surprise announcement at last night's launch of the online GRO database. This is what she said:

“This [the GRO indexes online database] is an investment for the future which allows us to access our past from the comfort of our living rooms. The availability of electronic records is essential for the development of modern genealogy services. With this in mind, I will shortly be publishing the Civil Registration (Amendment) Bill 2014 in which I will be providing for certain historic records to be made available online direct to the public. I look forward to further developments on this wonderful initiative which will allow us, and future generations, access to invaluable information regarding our ancestors."

She went on to say that these historic records would be full register records for births up to 100 years ago, marriages up to 75 years ago, and deaths up to 50 years ago.

- See more at: http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.ie/#sthash.iDP9anWK.dpuf"

Waitsian · 04-07-2014 6:11pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

“This [the GRO indexes online database] is an investment for the future which allows us to access our past from the comfort of our living rooms. The availability of electronic records is essential for the development of modern genealogy services. With this in mind, I will shortly be publishing the Civil Registration (Amendment) Bill 2014 in which I will be providing for certain historic records to be made available online direct to the public. I look forward to further developments on this wonderful initiative which will allow us, and future generations, access to invaluable information regarding our ancestors."

She went on to say that these historic records would be full register records for births up to 100 years ago, marriages up to 75 years ago, and deaths up to 50 years ago.

That's fantastic news, just brilliant.

Waitsian · 04-07-2014 6:39pm

A great tip from Claire's blog post:

One irritation of the 'enhanced' indexes is that, even where a date of birth, marriage or death has been provided from the registers, the database is stuck in a 'year of registration' groove. An example from the birth index will explain this: You're looking for your ancestor John Martin Ryan who you know was born on 12 December 1928 but you don't know where. So you search for him using his name and the year 1928. You won't find him.

The reason you won't find him is that his birth was registered in 1929 and you have to use that date in the search fields to locate his birth record, the very birth record which will show the December 1928 birthday! Infuriating, but definitely worth remembering when you can't find someone. This applies for births, marriages and deaths.

L1011 · 04-07-2014 9:00pm

So effectively we're going to have what the Scots have, but free. Full indexes, rolling year full records and all extant census data. Will be up there with the best internationally.

Jellybaby1 · 04-07-2014 9:29pm

Is it time for us to sing Hallelujah now?

L1011 · 04-07-2014 9:40pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Is it time for us to sing Hallelujah now?

Only when they change the Statistics Act to a more sensible, oh, 70 years maybe?

Hermy · 04-07-2014 11:46pm

I can't find Kenneth Hugh Murphy who appears on Family Search if anyone has any suggestions for alternative searches.

shanew · 05-07-2014 9:29am

Hermy wrote: »

I can't find Kenneth Hugh Murphy who appears on Family Search if anyone has any suggestions for alternative searches.

not seeing him either... there's is one 'unknown' male Murphy showing up in Rathdown that year, but during the wrong quarter. Do you know the surname of Kenneth's mother ?

shanew · 05-07-2014 9:36am

...example from the birth index will explain this: You're looking for your ancestor John Martin Ryan who you know was born on 12 December 1928 but you don't know where. So you search for him using his name and the year 1928. You won't find him...

same applies to the Index books in the GRO, and the Index transcripts on FamilySearch/FMP/Ancestry

Mantis Toboggan · 05-07-2014 9:45am

Lads, what's the name of the website?

Ponster · 05-07-2014 10:28am

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

Hermy · 05-07-2014 12:23pm

shanew wrote: »

not seeing him either... there's is one 'unknown' male Murphy showing up in Rathdown that year, but during the wrong quarter. Do you know the surname of Kenneth's mother ?

Mothers name is Annie Pelly.
Managed to find his other siblings but some of the transcriptions are poor...
Maureen
Eithne
John Pelly
Emer
Colman O'Shaughnessy
Dermod Art Pelly

EDIT: The Times Death Notices from Ancestry confirm his date of birth as 7/9/1916.

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