Guitar Lesson Advice

feylya · 22-12-2004 8:55pm

Yeah, the cold is gonna be the tricky one cos I gotta walk across the town to get to the place. I'll be wrecked by the time I get there!!! At least I'll get some excercise

22-12-2004 8:55pm

Gloves, and do stupid stretches on the way.

Ancient1 · 22-12-2004 8:55pm

feylya wrote:

TBH, the first time I heard him play, I thought I was listening to Garry Moore...

sounds good - maybe you should stick with this guy if he's that good!

emmet - no i didnt rob an old lady

but it was a sweet deal anyway!

22-12-2004 8:58pm

Ancient1 wrote:

..........to a car-boot sale and finding a grandmother clearing her attic ........

'Nuf said.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:00pm

Ancient1 wrote:

sounds good - maybe you should stick with this guy if he's that good!

I would but €20 is a bit steep for me at the moment tbh. Unemployed student and all that.

22-12-2004 9:02pm

it's pretty much the going rate for a one on one lesson though

Ancient1 · 22-12-2004 9:02pm

Deleted User wrote:

'Nuf said.

Yeah, i'd like something like that to happen to me! The story of my Thinline is a little bit more complicated. I got it about 12 years ago in Iran (yes, Iran) - where you have remnants of the American and Western lifestyle before the revolution - a country where you still drive old 70s Buicks and Cadillacs and where you can still find old Fenders. They're illegal of course, but according to the mullahs, acoustics arent (they dont pose such a severe threat to the regime, apparently :rolleyes: ). I found this Fender in an ancient music store and saw a dismantled Fender. Somehow i managed to convince him that he wouldnt have a chance of selling it, but he'd easily find a buyer for my acoustic. So we traded.

22-12-2004 9:03pm

ha ha ha

good job

Would do exactly the same myself!

Ancient1 · 22-12-2004 9:04pm

20 yoyos doesnt sound too bad - perhaps once a week or so will do if you find a good teacher.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:04pm

Deleted User wrote:

it's pretty much the going rate for a one on one lesson though

Aye, I know it is. Still expensive when you don't have the money.

22-12-2004 9:06pm

i know, but it's worth it in the long run, you can then start giving lessons and make it all back 15 times over!

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:08pm

Aye, I know. Ah, I'll see how these five lessons go and then maybe I'll start doing them every two weeks or once a month or something.

22-12-2004 9:10pm

..........And of course your musical abilities will improve immensely!

You'll get to a stage with the teacher where the "lessons" just turn into jamming and you realise that it's not necessary to pay him €20 so you can jam with him and then you just jam with other people. That's what happened with me anyway.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:11pm

Yeah. Of course, it end turn out that I'm an impossible student (quite likely tbh) and that he will want nothing to do with me

It wasn't me! · 22-12-2004 9:14pm

That jamming thing kind of happened to me with my first teacher, but my current one's great.

22-12-2004 9:15pm

yeah but once you "catch up" a certain distance the teacher won't really have much practical stuff you can do, just give you stuff to practice.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:19pm

TBH, if I get the basics of theory under my belt, I'll be more than happy. At the moment, I couldn't tell you what notes are where on a guitar

Giblet · 22-12-2004 9:26pm

feylya wrote:

TBH, if I get the basics of theory under my belt, I'll be more than happy. At the moment, I couldn't tell you what notes are where on a guitar

Really?!

22-12-2004 9:26pm

hadn't a clue of that myself for the first year!
its not really that necessary when you're just using open chords.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:28pm

Giblet wrote:

Really?!

Seriously. I couldn't tell you the note at the 8th fret on D.

I know the basic construction of the guitar though (open, 12th, 24th all the same note)

22-12-2004 9:31pm

How can you know so much about guitar without knowing guitar?

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:33pm

Most Blues musicians of old didn't know theory. They just played what sounded good.

I know the theory behind guitar construction and repair.

22-12-2004 9:34pm

i don't really know theory ither but i get by. How long are you playing guitar? and are these lessons just blues lessons, theory less or basics lessons?

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:36pm

Eh, about 5 years and I haven't a clue what these lessons are. I imagine they'll be a basic course in theory. Maybe some chord construction, playing around chords, learning the neck.

22-12-2004 9:38pm

5 years? Must be more than competent! So you really just want to go for theory and chord buildin/understanding?

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:40pm

Meh, I can play some things. Not really the fastest stuff or a lot of good solos but meh.

Yeah, I'd just like to know if I'm playing a certain riff, what notes should I be using if I'm soloing over it. Stuff like that.

Plus I need to get out of this rut that I'm in, just using the same patterns at different positions.

22-12-2004 9:42pm

just need to freshen up really? you'l be grand then it's like a refresher course, you've a great base so you'll be fine!

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:43pm

Well, not really. I've no base. Never been to lessons. Never really shown much. Just picked up a guitar one day, got the tabs to Enter Sandman and One and starting playing.

token · 22-12-2004 9:46pm

i take it you know the notes on the first two strings? (E&A) you damn well better! (damn metal kids) if you do you can use octaves to figure out notes on the other strings pretty quickly. Example $:\$ /......Play a 3 note powerchord on say the 5th fret (A5), so you know the 5th fret on the E string is A well so is the note your holding down on the D string at the 7th fret. You can use the same process for finding out notes on the G string from playing a powerchord with the root on the A string ex: play C5 (3rd fret root on A string) so the note 5th fret on G string is also C. For the B string you just have to learn the notes on it. Im not very good at explaining things but hope u get the idea.

22-12-2004 9:50pm

feylya wrote:

Well, not really. I've no base. Never been to lessons. Never really shown much. Just picked up a guitar one day, got the tabs to Enter Sandman and One and starting playing.

Well you've a great knowledge base in guitar, thats what i meant.

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:50pm

token wrote:

i take it you know the notes on the first two strings? (E&A) you damn well better! (damn metal kids) if you do you can use octaves to figure out notes on the other strings pretty quickly. Example $:\$ /......Play a 3 note powerchord on say the 5th fret (A5), so you know the 5th fret on the E string is A well so is the note your holding down on the D string at the 7th fret. You can use the same process for finding out notes on the G string from playing a powerchord with the root on the A string ex: play C5 (3rd fret root on A string) so the note 5th fret on G string is also C. For the B string you just have to learn the notes on it. Im not very good at explaining things but hope u get the idea.

Well, I have the very basic understanding of power chord construction (root, fifth, octave). But no, I don't know the notes along the e and a strings. I can't even remember which notes don't have sharps!!! I know there's two of them anyway. A and E??? I don't know

feylya · 22-12-2004 9:52pm

Deleted User wrote:

Well you've a great knowledge base in guitar, thats what i meant.

Ah, yeah, that's true enough. I know how to tune strings

Need a tuner though to get it perfect...

22-12-2004 9:53pm

most do

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token · 22-12-2004 9:59pm

well one of the first things you need to know theory wise is the names of the notes on the first two strings so you know what powerchords and barrechords you are using. Once u do that you'll know what i was talking about with the octaves to figure out the other notes. Aswell as knowing what chords your playing you'll know where the root notes in scales are so you can start playing the scale from places on the neck other than the root note on the first string.

feylya · 22-12-2004 10:01pm

Yeah. I've just never taken the time to sit down and learn the fecking thing.

token · 22-12-2004 10:10pm

The basics of music theory isnt hard im only playing guitar a year (still ****e) i started learning some theory about 2 months ago (fiblet showed me the absolute basics ie notes on the guitar back at the very start before i could play a C chord). Go look at www.ibreathemusic.com and read all the stuff by a guy called Gunharth Randolf and you'll know everything you need to know really. The forums are good aswell their all really hardcore over there.

feylya · 22-12-2004 10:12pm

Cool, cheers for that token.

Have some green apples

Giblet · 22-12-2004 10:46pm

Do you believe I'm teaching Token :>

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