Kerry GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post #4167

ciarriaithuaidh · 01-10-2014 3:02pm

keane2097 wrote: »

What is Paul Geaney like in terms of coming out the field would any of ye know? I only ever remember him playing inside I think.

Stephen O'Brien could be a better option in that role maybe?

Well able for it. Different type of player to O'Brien (who I also like as a player and who will come on a tonne from this year) but no less effective. He came out around the middle in the Sigerson back in February to great effect. Brilliant kick-passer. One slight criticism is that his hand-passing can be a little slack at times, but it's nit-picking in the extreme and he is still very inexperienced.

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 3:10pm

Ah yes of course he played out there during Sigerson, I remember him having a great final essentially at midfield.

Another sizable unit to have out around there as well.

Boom__Boom · 01-10-2014 4:13pm

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Great news about Tommy. Need to get an O'Neills in his hands asap now.

I'd be gobsmacked if he hasn't at least been kicking some sort of round ball out in OZ.

Anyone know when he's back on home soil?

I'd imagine there will be a bumper crowd at whatever game he's scheduled to make his debut for a gawk to see what sort of form he's in.

By all accounts he has been doing decent for the Swans reserve side the last few months - so he's probably pretty "match" fit so I would expect to see him back in action before too long.

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 4:14pm

We're playing a relegation play off against Kilcummin on the 19th which I guess he might be around for.

ciarriaithuaidh · 01-10-2014 5:25pm

keane2097 wrote: »

We're playing a relegation play off against Kilcummin on the 19th which I guess he might be around for.

I totally forgot ye were in the relegation battle! Not where you want to be and you wouldn't want to get dragged into a dogfight against Kilcummin. Should have enough to win it though.

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 5:33pm

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

I totally forgot ye were in the relegation battle! Not where you want to be and you wouldn't want to get dragged into a dogfight against Kilcummin. Should have enough to win it though.

The loser gets a second bite of the cherry against Currow as well. Fingers crossed we can get through one of the two.

The_Honeybadger · 01-10-2014 7:41pm

Would Walsh be able for midfield? He seems to have all the necessary attributes. Of course that would mean dropping one of our current pair, who both did well in the big games this year, especially David Moran.

He will most likely start at full forward ahead of Donaghy I would guess but who knows what the management will do. Fitzmaurice must be delighted, getting cooper and Walsh back into a championship winning team is some boost for 2015.

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 7:48pm

Not so sure I'd be as optimistic about the future if I were a Kerry supporter.

Tommy Walsh played 5 AFL games in 4 years for Sydney Swans and suffered a serious long term injury while there.

http://www.irishecho.com.au/tag/tommy-walsh

You'd have to be realistic about how such an injury could impact his career.

The same might be asked of Gooch coming back. Will he be back to his best after such an injury?

There are also several Kerry stalwarts coming towards the end of their career or stuggling with long term injuries.

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 7:51pm

I really hope the ease Colm back into the team.
I see no point in him playing NFL games in the depths of winter on brutal heavy pitches.

I'll never forget watching David Moran go over in Monaghan and do the cruciate.

Tommy Walsh will need time to readjust to life in Tralee and not Sydney, not just from AFL to GAA.

Roll on 2015 lads.

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 8:04pm

realweirdo wrote: »

Not so sure I'd be as optimistic about the future if I were a Kerry supporter.

Tommy Walsh played 5 AFL games in 4 years for Sydney Swans and suffered a serious long term injury while there.

http://www.irishecho.com.au/tag/tommy-walsh

You'd have to be realistic about how such an injury could impact his career.

The same might be asked of Gooch coming back. Will he be back to his best after such an injury?

There are also several Kerry stalwarts coming towards the end of their career or stuggling with long term injuries.

lol, if Kerry fans don't have cause to be optimistic at this moment in time I think I'd give up on football if I was from anywhere else

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 8:10pm

keane2097 wrote: »

lol, if Kerry fans don't have cause to be optimistic at this moment in time I think I'd give up on football if I was from anywhere else

Re Realweirdo

Lads don't bite with this lad, he ruinned the all Ireland thread.
Best ignored.

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 8:14pm

keane2097 wrote: »

lol, if Kerry fans don't have cause to be optimistic at this moment in time I think I'd give up on football if I was from anywhere else

Not sure I get what you mean but anyways :rolleyes:

My point was that people are excited about the return of Tommy Walsh but you'd have to see what state he comes back in.

For example, I remember reading years ago that he was one of the quickest players if not the quickest player on the Kerry team in training sprints.

But he's had a really bad hamstring injury in the last few years. So does that mean he will be the same player he was before he left. Only time will tell I suppose.

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 8:17pm

Kerryfootball wrote: »

Re Realweirdo

Lads don't bite with this lad, he ruinned the all Ireland thread.
Best ignored.

Predictable post really. I guess you can't post in here without wearing the Kerry jersey or talking impartially?

Kind of pointless having any kind of rational discussion if so.

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 8:19pm

Kerryfootball wrote: »

Re Realweirdo

Lads don't bite with this lad, he ruinned the all Ireland thread.
Best ignored.

By the way, I had the option of reporting you for accusing me of being a troll in the AI final thread. I decided against it that time. You apologised but looks like it wasn't genuine.
Clearly you haven't matured since then. So I am reporting this post of yours.

ciarriaithuaidh · 01-10-2014 8:21pm

Kerryfootball wrote: »

Re Realweirdo

Lads don't bite with this lad, he ruinned the all Ireland thread.
Best ignored.

Yeah I agree..I rarely use the ignore function,but sometimes you just have no option..

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 8:23pm

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Yeah I agree..I rarely use the ignore function,but sometimes you just have no option..

You are ignoring me because I pointed out that Walsh had a serious hamstring injury, played 5 games in 4 years and he mightn't be the same player that left? :rolleyes:

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 8:24pm

realweirdo wrote: »

Not sure I get what you mean but anyways :rolleyes:

My point was that people are excited about the return of Tommy Walsh but you'd have to see what state he comes back in.

For example, I remember reading years ago that he was one of the quickest players if not the quickest player on the Kerry team in training sprints.

But he's had a really bad hamstring injury in the last few years. So does that mean he will be the same player he was before he left. Only time will tell I suppose.

Considering he's been back playing for the Sydney seconds for a good while at this stage with no ill effects having had a year of monitored professional recovery I'm optimistic his hamstring is fine.

TBH I haven't seen much if any worries over how he has managed his recovery and how he's been since he's gotten back playing bar what I suspect is faux concern from a Tyrone fan on another forum and your own worries here.

homerjay2005 · 01-10-2014 8:25pm

realweirdo wrote: »

Not so sure I'd be as optimistic about the future if I were a Kerry supporter.

Tommy Walsh played 5 AFL games in 4 years for Sydney Swans and suffered a serious long term injury while there.

http://www.irishecho.com.au/tag/tommy-walsh

You'd have to be realistic about how such an injury could impact his career.

The same might be asked of Gooch coming back. Will he be back to his best after such an injury?

There are also several Kerry stalwarts coming towards the end of their career or stuggling with long term injuries.

we are in a better position for the future, than any other county bar Dublin. our minors pretty much blew everybody away in the championship this year, there is a serious crop of players coming through. Kelly, Fionn, Shane, Crowley, Murphy, Geaney, JOD, O Brien, Buckley are no longer the u-21 team who got hammered by Cork, they are the group who went on and won an all ireland at senior level - you cannot buy that experience and they are all still u-24. theres another 5 or 6 lads on the panel hungry to take their place if they lose form (Kealy, Kilkenny,Griffan,Lyne,Geaney,)

and with Eamon Fitzmaurice, we have the best manager in the game.

we have a midfield duo that cleaned all round them this year - Cork, Mayo, Donegal and look like they can be the foundation of success for many year. Sheehan, Buckley, Walsh and even Donaghy can do a job there, plus two of the best young midfielders in the land coming through to keep them honest.

add in that a hungry Gooch, Tommy Walsh & Darran O Sullivan and i think we are a decent draw away from a semi final at least next year. we will take it from there then.

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 8:26pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Considering he's been back playing for the Sydney seconds for a good while at this stage with no ill effects having had a year of monitored professional recovery I'm optimistic his hamstring is fine.

TBH I haven't seen much if any worries over how he has managed his recovery and how he's been since he's gotten back playing bar what I suspect is faux concern from a Tyrone fan on another forum and your own worries here.

That's fair enough if so. I was going to say something like "Lets hope the hamstring stands up" but I won't bother.

Any time you wish a Kerry person good luck, they are immediately suspicious of your motives!

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 8:39pm

Barry O'Sullivan is going to be a monster.

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 8:41pm

Best of Luck to Tomas O Se, what a year that lads has had.
2 All Irelands and now the chance to see the world with Riverdance.

Put West Kerry on the map lad...

homerjay2005 · 01-10-2014 8:49pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Barry O'Sullivan is going to be a monster.

yep, and Mark also...both of them are absolutely cracking players.

keane2097 · 01-10-2014 8:50pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

yep, and Mark also...both of them are absolutely cracking players.

Mark is minor again next year isn't he?

homerjay2005 · 01-10-2014 9:07pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Mark is minor again next year isn't he?

yep!

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-10-2014 9:08pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we are in a better position for the future, than any other county bar Dublin. our minors pretty much blew everybody away in the championship this year, there is a serious crop of players coming through. Kelly, Fionn, Shane, Crowley, Murphy, Geaney, JOD, O Brien, Buckley are no longer the u-21 team who got hammered by Cork, they are the group who went on and won an all ireland at senior level - you cannot buy that experience and they are all still u-24. theres another 5 or 6 lads on the panel hungry to take their place if they lose form (Kealy, Kilkenny,Griffan,Lyne,Geaney,)

and with Eamon Fitzmaurice, we have the best manager in the game.

we have a midfield duo that cleaned all round them this year - Cork, Mayo, Donegal and look like they can be the foundation of success for many year. Sheehan, Buckley, Walsh and even Donaghy can do a job there, plus two of the best young midfielders in the land coming through to keep them honest.

add in that a hungry Gooch, Tommy Walsh & Darran O Sullivan and i think we are a decent draw away from a semi final at least next year. we will take it from there then.

I'd agree with that.
Any Munster game v Cork will be in Killarney, so you would have to give Kerry the edge there.

As we have seen quarter finalists coming through the back door are rarely up to the quality of provincial winners these days so I'd give Kerry the edge there also.

Then its a SF v Ulster champ or their conquerer, and although competitive Ulster is not great on quality these days.

So the path to a final is not crazy difficult.

By the way if they stick with the AB draw again in 2015 then the QF will be v Ulster loser or their 4th end. conquerer.

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-10-2014 9:10pm

Kerryfootball wrote: »

Best of Luck to Tomas O Se, what a year that lads has had.
2 All Irelands and now the chance to see the world with Riverdance.

Put West Kerry on the map lad...

Surely West Kerry had been on the map since the days of Peig Sayers.

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 9:13pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Surely West Kerry had been on the map since the days of Peig Sayers.

Ahh good auld Peig...

I'm not sure she was on the curriculum in New York or Beijing.

Poor_old_gill · 01-10-2014 9:40pm

realweirdo wrote: »

Not so sure I'd be as optimistic about the future if I were a Kerry supporter.

Tommy Walsh played 5 AFL games in 4 years for Sydney Swans and suffered a serious long term injury while there.

http://www.irishecho.com.au/tag/tommy-walsh

You'd have to be realistic about how such an injury could impact his career.

The same might be asked of Gooch coming back. Will he be back to his best after such an injury?

There are also several Kerry stalwarts coming towards the end of their career or stuggling with long term injuries.

We're f*cked

realweirdo · 01-10-2014 10:00pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

We're f*cked

Just think it makes sense to be objective.

Its the same with Mayo supporters who get carried away every year.

Objectivity is usually in short supply in gaelic football these days.

Would Walsh be a starter or an impact player? If either Gooch or Walsh goes back in as a starter who gets dropped? Is Walsh better than what Kerry currently have? Where does he fit in?

Poor_old_gill · 01-10-2014 10:21pm

realweirdo wrote: »

Just think it makes sense to be objective.

Its the same with Mayo supporters who get carried away every year.

Objectivity is usually in short supply in gaelic football these days.

Would Walsh be a starter or an impact player? If either Gooch or Walsh goes back in as a starter who gets dropped? Is Walsh better than what Kerry currently have? Where does he fit in?

Noone knows the answer to the Walsh question and it would be disrespectful to guys who just won an AI 2 weeks ago to talk about dropping them.
However he is/was an excellent footballer and if he can reclaim that form then he will be an excellent addition to the squad.

Same goes for Gooch- but I'd rather have these options than not have them

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 10:46pm

It's a panel game now, it's not about the first 15 anymore.

You can't start thinking about were any player will play in Oct. It all depends on the twists and turns of the league/championship.
David Moran is a case in point he'd probably not have had the impact he had if Bryan hadn't come off against Galway.

We now have a panel as proved against Mayo and the return of Tommy the return of Colm and maybe one or two new lads will strengthen our hand further.

Eamon will have great options next year so things are much brighter this winter than last.
Amazing what changes can happen in 12 months.

Kerryfootball · 01-10-2014 10:49pm

It's a panel game now, it's not about the first 15 anymore.

You can't start thinking about were any player will play in Oct. It all depends on the twists and turns of the league/championship.
David Moran is a case in point he'd probably not have had the impact he had if Bryan hadn't come off against Galway.

We now have a panel as proved against Mayo and the return of Tommy the return of Colm and maybe one or two new lads will strengthen our hand further.

Eamon will have great options next year so things are much brighter this winter than last.
Amazing what changes can happen in 12 months.

Jake Rugby Walrus666 · 01-10-2014 11:26pm

I wonder could Tommy Walsh be at the heart of a kerry defence. In the traditions of Sean Walsh and Seamus Moynihan.
Injuries aside you wouldn't tamper with that midfield. Or the front line for that matter.

Kerrydude1981 · 01-10-2014 11:31pm

Kerryfootball wrote: »

It's a panel game now, it's not about the first 15 anymore.

You can't start thinking about were any player will play in Oct. It all depends on the twists and turns of the league/championship.
David Moran is a case in point he'd probably not have had the impact he had if Bryan hadn't come off against Galway.

We now have a panel as proved against Mayo and the return of Tommy the return of Colm and maybe one or two new lads will strengthen our hand further.

Eamon will have great options next year so things are much brighter this winter than last.
Amazing what changes can happen in 12 months.

Thats the joys of Kerry football,things can look bleak and then it goes and surprises you

wonga77 · 02-10-2014 4:56pm

Martin Horgan to be the new waterford boss? Be interesting to see how he gets on

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/waterford-set-to-appoint-horgan-289589.html

ciarriaithuaidh · 02-10-2014 5:12pm

wonga77 wrote: »

Martin Horgan to be the new waterford boss? Be interesting to see how he gets on

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/waterford-set-to-appoint-horgan-289589.html

They must be badly stuck down there. He didn't set the world alight in management in Kerry anyway. He works as a fulltime coach with Co Board though so maybe he'll bring something to them in fairness.

Kerrydude1981 · 02-10-2014 7:22pm

This could be an interesting read

http://www.easons.com/p-3084645-paul-galvin.aspx

Kerryfootball · 02-10-2014 7:45pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

This could be an interesting read

http://www.easons.com/p-3084645-paul-galvin.aspx

Potential to be a great read, hopefully it's not like other recent players books that were not great..

Radio5 · 03-10-2014 5:12pm

I wonder who the ghostwriter is. Most autobiographies have one.

Great news re Tommy Walsh. Wherever and whenever he plays, its far better to have him here than in Sydney.

D'Agger · 03-10-2014 6:34pm

Radio5 wrote: »

I wonder who the ghostwriter is. Most autobiographies have one.

Great news re Tommy Walsh. Wherever and whenever he plays, its far better to have him here than in Sydney.

Well if he wrote it himself it'll be a collection of short sentences based on the articles of his I've read

homerjay2005 · 04-10-2014 4:34pm

Shannon Rangers have hammered South Kerry!

biggest shock in years in the championship?

Paul Kennelly was sensational, id say Eamon Fitz will be having a word with him on the way out this evening.

Culhane and Enright were excellent too

Poor_old_gill · 04-10-2014 5:01pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Shannon Rangers have hammered South Kerry!

biggest shock in years in the championship?

Paul Kennelly was sensational, id say Eamon Fitz will be having a word with him on the way out this evening.

Culhane and Enright were excellent too

Just dipped in and out of Radio Kerry's online stream to hear what was going on- couldnt believe what I was hearing.
Even when 6 points up with 10 to go- I still fancied SK to come back.

Great result for Shannon Rangers and leaves this years championship wide open.

Fr Tod Umptious · 04-10-2014 5:35pm

Can you imagine the state of Wheeshie if Legion won the county final.

Leading Dingle by 2 at half time by the way

homerjay2005 · 04-10-2014 6:27pm

Dingle beat Legion by a point 2-9 to 2-8, with an injury time goal.

so thats Dingle and Shannon Rangers through to the semi.

Poor_old_gill · 04-10-2014 6:29pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Dingle beat Legion by a point 2-9 to 2-8, with an injury time goal.

so thats Dingle and Shannon Rangers through to the semi.

This season is proving to be a bit bonkers.
We seem to be moving ever closer to doomsday- stacks winning the championship

homerjay2005 · 04-10-2014 6:47pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

This season is proving to be a bit bonkers.
We seem to be moving ever closer to doomsday- stacks winning the championship

well in terms of club rankings off county league form, its

1 - Stacks.
2 - Dingle.
3 - Laune Rangers.

its hard to gauge how Shannon Rangers are compared to them, but Beale and Ballydonoghue could be promoted to Divisions 3 and 4 respectively with Tarbert solid in Division 2 so a mixture of those 3 teams alone gives a strong team, with a few ballyduff and ballylongford lads thrown in, though both those clubs look like they will be relegated to 5.

i guess we will know more about West Kerry and Mid Kerry by this time tomorrow and how the rankings go. would Shannon Rangers be favourites in a game against Dingle?

Dingle and Laune Rangers have had poor years to date, with Rangers in Div 2. some strange goings on in that county league, alot of the teams that made up Division one a few years ago like An Gaeltacht, Dromid, Ardfert are in Division 3 with other former top senior clubs struggling in Division 2.

Poor_old_gill · 04-10-2014 7:22pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well in terms of club rankings off county league form, its

1 - Stacks.
2 - Dingle.
3 - Laune Rangers.

its hard to gauge how Shannon Rangers are compared to them, but Beale and Ballydonoghue could be promoted to Divisions 3 and 4 respectively with Tarbert solid in Division 2 so a mixture of those 3 teams alone gives a strong team, with a few ballyduff and ballylongford lads thrown in, though both those clubs look like they will be relegated to 5.

i guess we will know more about West Kerry and Mid Kerry by this time tomorrow and how the rankings go. would Shannon Rangers be favourites in a game against Dingle?

Dingle and Laune Rangers have had poor years to date, with Rangers in Div 2. some strange goings on in that county league, alot of the teams that made up Division one a few years ago like An Gaeltacht, Dromid, Ardfert are in Division 3 with other former top senior clubs struggling in Division 2.

It's hard to gauge alright- Laune Rangers are always a good championship team but I'd fancy Mid Kerry to get the better of them with Stacks beating WK.

That would leave a final 4 of SR,Stacks, Dingle & MK.
Stacks and MK would be the 2 strongest there imo

ciarriaithuaidh · 04-10-2014 9:33pm

Well I'm certainly enjoying this Saturday so far anyway..

Munster beating Leinster in Dublin is nice, but Shannon Rangers beating South Kerry and reaching the semis for the first time in 31 years is just unreal.

As mentioned, Paul Kennelly was marvellous. 1-9, 1-4 of it from play. Great shooting. Shane Enright saw off a succession of forwards and was inspirational, as was David Culhane at wing back. Mikey Boyle caused havoc on the edge of the square. Unfair to pick anybody out though as it was just a massive team performance. South Kerry were poor, but were outworked and outmuscled aswell.
Declan wasn't seen at all today..sadly fear we may have seen the last of him.

BTW, Dingle beat Legion in 2nd game today..a last minute goal for a 1 point win. Absolutely awful game littered with errors and fouling.

homerjay2005 · 04-10-2014 10:22pm

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

but Shannon Rangers beating South Kerry and reaching the semis for the first time in 31 years is just unreal.

south kerry were our bogey team underage, they beat us in 2 u-16 finals, minor semi and minor 1/4, 4 years in a row - they were there to be beaten every year, but always finished strong.

delighted for the lads, been talking to a few of them this evening. Shannon Rangers have been dragged throught the s*ite for years and years at Senior level and its about time the potential thats been there over the past 5 or 6 years, has started to come together.

there is alot of pedigree in that team, Wren, King, O Grady and kennelly all played Kerry junior, with the likes of Costello, Boyle, O Shea, Culhane, Mahony also playing either minor or u-21 and im sure im forgetting a few.

thats about 10 of the team with county experience, something that weve not had in a long time.

ciarriaithuaidh · 04-10-2014 10:29pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

south kerry were our bogey team underage, they beat us in 2 u-16 finals, minor semi and minor 1/4, 4 years in a row - they were there to be beaten every year, but always finished strong.

delighted for the lads, been talking to a few of them this evening. Shannon Rangers have been dragged throught the s*ite for years and years at Senior level and its about time the potential thats been there over the past 5 or 6 years, has started to come together.

there is alot of pedigree in that team, Wren, King, O Grady and kennelly all played Kerry junior, with the likes of Costello, Boyle, O Shea, Culhane, Mahony also playing either minor or u-21 and im sure im forgetting a few.

thats about 10 of the team with county experience, something that weve not had in a long time.

I think only 3 of the starting 15 HADN'T been in a Kerry squad at some level from minor up..2 of the subs who came on have played Kerry minor also. That is indicative of the talent that is there and has been there for a while without being harnessed. Hopefully this can be the start of something.

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