Will Petrol be coming down here in Ireland?

gsi300024v wrote: »

But if we cut the dole to 100 euro in the morning, while we'd have more people looking for jobs we wouldn't have more jobs out there, that is all I am saying. I do know some people who retired to go on the dole, I totally disagree with this. It's there as a support if you can't find a job or are retraining to find a job.
I suppose it depends what you call rich, I'm not laughing, just saying I'd not class people on the dole as rich, they've not probably sending kids to private school not buying new cars. Should they be let spend some of it in the pub?
Would you like to be on the dole and told where you can and can't spend your money.
I suppose too, turkey's don't vote for Christmas, no one things they themselves should make more of a contribution, we all point to someone else.
I was in a class before where the lecturer was saying how a company manger said he couldn't understand why the staff wouldn't take a 20% cut in salaries to keep the company a float. But the company owner didn't understand that for some they'd not be able to survive on 20% less so there was no point agreeing to it.
It's easy to say dole is too high with all the add ons so people are not motivated to get off it and find a job.
But look at actual cases, a friend was on the dole, he was not in the pub, was finding it hard to make ends meet as it was, he was offered a job that by the time he added in petrol he would be 20 euro a week worse off, he was already finding it hard to pay his was, how can he go back to work for that job? He can't use 20% less gas and electricity, eat 20% less, use 20% less petrol.
There was a very interesting piece on tv before, they simply asked who should pay more tax, everyone agreed the rich should pay more, but when they asked people from different salary brackets who were the rich, even those on 150,000 sterling didn't consider themselves rich.
What do long term JSA recipients offer the country? Is this not going down the lines of if you don't offer anything you are not welcome here? My mother has not worked in 25 years, she was a full time mother, we're all grown and moved on, she paid very little tax but will get a pension, she is not on the dole but is also offering nothing, should we ask her to leave?

I just think there is an ill-informed view of the dole, the vast majority would love to have a job and not feel ****ty collecting it and signing on every week. You'll always have some lazy people, some though are just not skilled enough to get what is going.
I spoke to a bloke once who was hoping to be a senator one day in the usa, his kids were given 50k a year education, he thought why can't people just get a job, I tried to say it is a different world for those on the bottom then those like his kids at the top, they can't use connections or are not educated enough.
I suppose to put it simply, if we stopped TD's taking no more then their salary and we kicked off the dole anyone who'd been on it more than a year, it would not change in my opinion the state of our countries finances that much.
It would not mean we could lower the rate of tax instantly.
If we'd no people on the dole we'd be screwed a bit too, who'd take up the new jobs we're creating.

YbFocus wrote: »

Jesus lads this isn't the place for that.

I paid 1.30 for petrol last night. It's not overly cheap near me!

gsi300024v wrote: »

I was reading something on why the Saudi's won't cut back on production to push the price up like they did before, one reason, they did before and lost market share, another, low price means Russian and Iran in the ****s, Saudi not big fans of these. Another is possibly that with low prices it help there be a lack of research into new ways to get the harder more expensive oil out of the ground.
What happened to that popular notion of peak oil?

jimgoose wrote: »

Sometime between now and 2030 apparently, with some arguing that "conventional" light-and-sweet has already peaked.