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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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    #6662
    Flincher
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Flincher


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I thought Stringer had gone to Newcastle too but he's playing for Saracens right now. Anyone know what happened to his Newcastle move?

    That loan is from next week. This is his last appearance for Sarries.

    I presume we have the option to recall him. Feckin hope so anyway.


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    #6663
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I'd be surprised if Munster don't have the option to recall him.

    I think with TOL we would be ok but Williams... :(


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    #6664
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if Munster don't have the option to recall him.

    I think with TOL we would be ok but Williams... :(

    For the second week in a row Williams was better than TOL when he came on last night.


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    #6665
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if Munster don't have the option to recall him.

    I think with TOL we would be ok but Williams... :(
    Weren't plenty of people predicting great things for Williams before Murray passed him out and ate his dinner?


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    #6666
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Weren't plenty of people predicting great things for Williams before Murray passed him out and ate his dinner?

    All I ever heard on here was that Williams was decent but Murray was the real talent. And then Williams kept getting selected ahead of Murray, but it was clear as day that Murray was the better of the two.

    I don't rate Williams at all tbh, although I haven't seen the last two games.


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    #6667
    Cpt_Blackbeard
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Cpt_Blackbeard


    Mafi was probably the pick of our scrumhalves yesterday in fairness. We're ****ed without Murray against Ulster.


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    #6668
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,018 ✭✭✭✭phog


    The next few days are anxious moments for Murray and Munster, he'll be a huge loss to us if he's not around for the knock-out games.

    We've never had a season for injuries like we've had this year :mad:


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    #6669
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I think it throws a real spanner in works regarding TOL's potential move away.

    If (and I hope I'm wrong!) Murray is gone for the season and maybe longer, than TOL suddenly becomes first choice.


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    #6670
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Flincher wrote: »
    That loan is from next week. This is his last appearance for Sarries.

    I presume we have the option to recall him. Feckin hope so anyway.

    Doesn't matter whether or not we recall him, he's cup tied for the HEC so it's TOL and Williams for the HEC if Murray is banjaxed.


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    #6671
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I think it throws a real spanner in works regarding TOL's potential move away.

    Well rumour has it Perpignan aren't interested any more, so I think the spanner is already residing in the works.


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    #6672
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    If Murray has a long term injury we'll have to look at bringing in an NIQ 9

    Williams ain't up to it and if TOL decides to have another slump in form we could be rightly ****ed


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    #6673
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,018 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Twitter messages seems positive on his injury


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    #6674
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,806 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Hope he's ok, played a lot better today. Munster would certainly be in trouble without him.


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    #6675
    Flincher
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Flincher


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whether or not we recall him, he's cup tied for the HEC so it's TOL and Williams for the HEC if Murray is banjaxed.

    Forgot that he was cup tied.

    In the event that it is a bad one for Murray, it'd probably be worth recalling Stringer all the same, given that we have big fixtures coming up in the Pro12. Leinster and Ulster and home, plus a semi final and hopefully a final, so Stringer would get a share of game time.

    Michael Corcoran just tweeted that it was a hyper extension and not as bad as feared, so hopefully he will be back for the run-in.


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    #6676
    Fireball07
    Registered Users Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    If Murray has a long term injury we'll have to look at bringing in an NIQ 9

    Williams ain't up to it and if TOL decides to have another slump in form we could be rightly ****ed

    Who though? Worst case scenario and we have to bring in a NIQ, what are the options? Is there a Brad Thorn of scrum-halves knocking around?

    phog wrote: »
    Twitter messages seems positive on his injury

    And Kidney did seem positive enough about it. We won't know for sure for a day or two...let's hope for the best.


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    #6677
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Who though? Worst case scenario and we have to bring in a NIQ, what are the options? Is there a Brad Thorn of scrum-halves knocking around?
    Yup. Strings, ironically.


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    #6678
    totallegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Who though? Worst case scenario and we have to bring in a NIQ, what are the options? Is there a Brad Thorn of scrum-halves knocking around?
    Yup. Strings.

    But he can't play in the Heineken cup.


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    #6679
    Fireball07
    Registered Users Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    totallegend wrote: »
    But he can't play in the Heineken cup.

    I did think of Stringer, but this is true. It's HC that we'll really need them before, Williams can do a job off the bench in pro12.


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    #6680
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,018 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Yup. Strings, ironically.

    Cup tied by Saracens.


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    #6681
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    I don't know, I think Williams or Gerry Hurley would be decent back-up to O'Leary, I'd actually have Williams ahead of TOL at the minute. I wouldn't be bothered searching Japan for a replacement anyhow.


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    #6682
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    phog wrote: »
    Cup tied by Saracens.

    seriously?

    short-term, emergency loan deals to cover injury result in cup-tied?

    that's pretty self-defeating isn't it?


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    #6683
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,806 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Riskymove wrote: »
    seriously?

    short-term, emergency loan deals to cover injury result in cup-tied?

    that's pretty self-defeating isn't it?

    Playing in the competition results in you being cup tied. Seems pretty reasonable to me.


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    #6684
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Playing in the competition results in you being cup tied. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

    In general yes

    But, for example, Strings is only cuptied as he played for a team that needed emergency, short-term cover..which is a good system in rugby......now if Strings cannot play, Munster may have to seek an emergency cover from elsewhere, despite having Strings available

    It seems a waste of time and effort


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    #6685
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Riskymove wrote: »
    It seems a waste of time and effort

    Probably not to Stringer, who got to play in the HC for a least one more season.


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    #6686
    Rattlehead_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Well rumour has it Perpignan aren't interested any more, so I think the spanner is already residing in the works.

    Perpignan signed a scrum half last week so I dont think TOL is going anywhere near there


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    #6687
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    justsomebloke wrote: »
    Probably not to Stringer, who got to play in the HC for a least one more season.

    er...what?:confused:

    I mean that cuptying stringer and making Munster seek cover is a waste of time and effort in this case......not that Stringer's loan spell was a waste!! :rolleyes:


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    #6688
    totallegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Riskymove wrote: »
    er...what?:confused:

    I mean that cuptying stringer and making Munster seek cover is a waste of time and effort in this case......not that Stringer's loan spell was a waste!! :rolleyes:

    Then Munster shouldn't have loaned him out! If lads could play for multiple teams
    , it would be seriously open to abuse.

    Is it the same in soccer Champions League or FA cup ? I think so.


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    #6689
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    totallegend wrote: »
    Then Munster shouldn't have loaned him out! If lads could play for multiple teams
    , it would be seriously open to abuse.

    As I said, I agree generally with the principle of cuptying

    However, "Then Munster shouldn't have loaned him out" is the reaction I would be most concerned about

    The system of allowing short-term emergency cover in rugby is a good one, given the importance of having specialised players.....particularly true for props etc.

    If clubs (particularly those competing for the HC)look at this situation, they may decide that they wont allow players to help out other clubs in need


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    #6690
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I mean that cuptying stringer and making Munster seek cover is a waste of time and effort in this case......not that Stringer's loan spell was a waste!! :rolleyes:

    surprisingly I knew what you meant :rolleyes:

    Chances are if it wasn't for the tax ramifications for him of moving he would of. The loans are just ways of letting him play some where else while maintaining the tax breaks


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    #6691
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    justsomebloke wrote: »
    surprisingly I knew what you meant :rolleyes:

    well, we'll see if he agrees if he is in the stands watching some southern hemisphere emergency loan play for Munster in the HC Final!


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