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[article] RTÉ plans separate entity for transmission services

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Recently, it was the vehicle used by RTÉ to invest €470 million in the new digital terrestrial network supporting the Saorview service.

    I thought it was €70m.


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭formerly scottish paddy


    It was..............think it is misprint.


  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    I remember reading somewhere round here that RTÉ/RTÉNL had financed the digital switchover by borrowing from private banking institutions.
    If this breakup goes ahead will the new newwork operator carry the estimated €70m borrowing cost of setting up the Saorview network with it, off the shoulders of RTÉ.
    On another tack, it unwise to dispose of what may be considered a national infrastructural asset? The resilt of such "asset disposal" is clearly evident in the current sate of the national phone/broadband network as a result of lack of investment by it's various owners since privatisation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Looking at my keyboard, I see the € sign and the 4 are on the same key, so most likely a nervous twitch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Markdub2000


    Do u think rtenl will merge with penthouse hd1 & 2 - the two high def hardcore porn channels on 9east!!

    Maybe they'll offer them as part of the Saorsat service!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I remember reading somewhere round here that RTÉ/RTÉNL had financed the digital switchover by borrowing from private banking institutions.
    If this breakup goes ahead will the new newwork operator carry the estimated €70m borrowing cost of setting up the Saorview network with it, off the shoulders of RTÉ.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72670124

    I assume as they are the comany tasked with rolling out the DTT network the debt remains with them. We should know more once the separation happens.
    On another tack, it unwise to dispose of what may be considered a national infrastructural asset? The resilt of such "asset disposal" is clearly evident in the current sate of the national phone/broadband network as a result of lack of investment by it's various owners since privatisation.

    The possible sale of RTÉNL was included in Colm McCarthy's report on the disposal of state assets, bad idea in my opinion. Doesn't appear the government are in any rush to sell RTÉNL - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73031402#post73031402.

    RTÉ previously advised against selling the network until after ASO, this could be the start of that process.
    What the Government ignored
    Thursday February 23 2012

    A REVIEW led by economist Colm McCarthy in April last year recommended the sale of a host of state assets, but warned against a fire sale.

    The Government has loosely followed its advice but has not adopted many of its proposals, among them the following:

    RTE: report said it should sell its broadcasting network, RTENL, but put safeguards in place to ensure it is available to the State in case of a national emergency.

    ...

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/what-the-government-ignored-3029095.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I assume this is where Willie O'Reilly will eventually end up.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,511 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Moved to Terrestrial and merged.

    Can I have no more quoting full articles please. This was already the rule in Cable & Digital anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    Moved to Terrestrial and merged.

    Can I have no more quoting full articles please. This was already the rule in Cable & Digital anyway.

    Even if we link to the article?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Id say Arqiva will buy it. They put most of Saorview in place and own Free view in the UK.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Elmo wrote: »
    Even if we link to the article?
    No more pasting of full articles, just a paragraph and link to story.

    It's site wide, thanks to Sean Sherlock apparently

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056565895


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Id say Arqiva will buy it. They put most of Saorview in place and own Free view in the UK.

    They are a one-fifth shareholder in Freeview.

    Another possibility could be TDF, who own terrestrial networks in France, Germany, Finland, Hungary etc. They were one of the final 3 bidders for the network in 2002.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭Cesium Clock


    icdg wrote: »
    Moved to Terrestrial and merged.

    Can I have no more quoting full articles please. This was already the rule in Cable & Digital anyway.

    or questions to 'Saorview Brian'

    or mentions of associations such as the 'CAI', Guild of Master Craftsmen' or 'the ISAA'

    its a disgrace that an open forum is starting to feel the effects of ACTA

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

    and other such freedoms of speech.

    :mad::mad::mad:


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,511 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Here's not the place to discuss any of that.

    The Admins will likely let us know in due course what's happening site wide. PM me or the other mods if there's a Cable & Digital specific issue.

    Back on topic please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Id say Arqiva will buy it. They put most of Saorview in place and own Free view in the UK.

    Unlikely to be sold IMO, if they couldn't sell it in 2001 they won't be able to sell it in 2012. They would also need government approval to sell the new RTÉNL.

    It is purely about making RTÉ NL as separate as possible to make it as transparent as possible.

    Its RTÉ's most profitable section it would be akin to Eircom selling off Eircell, oh wait!

    Back on topic, thanks for the answers to my simple question. Saved me allot of pms and side chat, and explained simply to all following this thread. Conversational flows. Threads if you like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    This is a good thing but lets do it a little different, lets separate RTÉNL from RTÉ and run RTÉNL as a state owned company and privatise RTÉ itself and let them compete in the real world. RTE1 and 2 could be privatized and keep TG4 state owned and pay TG4 the say €50 from every licence fee and use the rest to build important network infrastructure like FTTH and also repaying the IMF.

    RTE are total wasters, they run up huge losses each year despite getting the licence fee money and advertising on top of it. They pay usless people like Ryan Tubridy and their other cronies salaries well in excess of what is acceptable in the private sector. RTE are a utter disgrace of an organisation, they produce pure rubbish, lose money and rip-off the public. Public Sector Fianna Fail cronyism sense of entitlement at its worst.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The Cush wrote: »
    I remember reading somewhere round here that RTÉ/RTÉNL had financed the digital switchover by borrowing from private banking institutions.
    If this breakup goes ahead will the new newwork operator carry the estimated €70m borrowing cost of setting up the Saorview network with it, off the shoulders of RTÉ.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72670124

    I assume as they are the comany tasked with rolling out the DTT network the debt remains with them. We should know more once the separation happens.

    This from the 2010 RTÉ Annual Report
    The Broadcasting Act 2009 makes clear that RTÉ has the primary responsibility for providing the new free-to-air digital service. By ASO, RTÉNL will have invested €70 million building the necessary infrastructure to enable Ireland make the successful transition to free-to-air DTT. This is a significant piece of national communications infrastructure and it is being financed solely by RTÉNL from a combination of its own resources and from bank borrowings.
    RTÉ’s transmission subsidiary, RTÉNL, has continued to make significant capital expenditure commitments in relation to DTT and on 22 December 2010 RTÉNL entered into a project finance loan facility agreement with Barclays Bank amounting to €38.25 million.
    On 22 December 2010, RTÉNL entered into a five year loan facility agreement amounting to €38.25 million.

    It was one of the conditions to the availability of the loan facility that RTÉNL execute a security deed agreement and provide the lender security as follows:
    (i) Lands of 13 main DTT transmission sites;
    (ii) All RTÉNL present and future fixtures and fittings on the DTT transmission sites;
    (iii) All RTÉNL rental income and occupational leases;
    (iv) Rights and benefits of RTÉNL insurance policies;
    (v) Certain bank accounts of RTÉNL relating to the DTT project (i.e. the Sinking Fund Account and the Insurance Proceeds Account); and
    (vi) D eeds of Assignment creating security assignments in respect of certain commercial contracts and DTT Construction Contracts.

    No amounts were drawn down under the facility agreement at year end.

    RTÉ has entered an undertaking to pay RTÉNL by way of a loan an amount equal to any interest and/or fees falling due under the loan facility agreement should RTÉNL not have sufficient funds to do so. The undertaking is subject to specific terms and conditions which determine when this obligation arises.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I would be in favour of joining RTE NL with BordGais Networks and ESB Networks into one semi-state company. It would also make sense to get that entity would then collect all the energy bills and the TV licence fee, plus the household charge. One bill once a month.

    RTE NL are quite a small operation only 90 or so employees, and could be absorbed very easily into the other two. Might be a bit more difficult to fit the two bigger operations into one, but they are both subsideries already of their bigger parent company. That would then allow the parents, Bord Gais and Electric Ireland to be privateised in one way or another.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    That would then allow the parents, Bord Gais and Electric Ireland to be privateised in one way or another.

    Your only privatising their consumer brands rather then the parent companies. I.e. ESB is the parent company of Electric Ireland and ESB Networks.

    IMO Bord Gais Energy should split their customer base between 5 companies, the government sells each company as time goes on, rather then this pathetic idea of holding on to 25% of Bord Gais. This would mean the government would own a number of consumer products until such time as they are sold in the future, while retaining the Bord Gais Networks. Same could be said of Electric Ireland.
    use the rest to build important network infrastructure like FTTH and also repaying the IMF

    How much would you need for FTTH? As for the Licence fee being use to pay back the IMF I don't think it would go far, Perhaps we should an IMF Licence (but I just want to be part of an elite team :) ).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Press release from RTÉ last Monday on changes to RTÉNL
    RTÉ announces Repositioning of RTÉNL
    Monday, 23 July 2012

    As part of ongoing changes at RTÉ, the organisations subsidiary company 'RTÉ Transmission Network Limited' (RTÉNL) is to be repositioned. Announcing the change, RTÉ Director-General Noel Curran confirmed that RTÉNL will be renamed and rebranded. In addition, the subsidiary's headquarters will be located away from RTÉ's Dublin campus in Donnybrook. A new board of directors, including independent directors, along with a new independent chairman, will be appointed.

    Noel Curran, Director-General of RTÉ, said: "The repositioning of RTÉ NL means that the company will be able to take full advantage of developments in broadcast services markets nationally and internationally. While RTÉ NL will remain a subsidiary of RTÉ, these changes will allow it to become a true leader in broadcast delivery technology. The recent, and successful, roll-out of the infrastructure for SAORVIEW clearly demonstrates RTÉ NL's ability to deliver, and this repositioning will put it in the best position to build on its competencies and achievements."

    RTÉ NL was established as a separate company in 2003 and it operates a network of some 170 distribution and transmission sites across Ireland. It provides broadcast distribution and transmission services to the Irish television and radio channels, including national services such as RTÉ One and RTÉ Two, TV3, TG4, Today FM, RTÉ Radio 1, 2fm, lyric fm, RnaG and Newstalk, as well as regional and local radio services such as Clare FM, Kerry Radio, Spin FM, etc. In addition to broadcast, RTÉ NL also provides services into the telecommunications industry.

    Mick Kehoe, Executive Director of RTÉNL, said "This repositioning of RTÉ NL is an exciting development that will refresh both the company and the business. As with most other businesses in Ireland there are challenging times ahead but I am confident that with this fresh start, along with input from the new talent that will join the company board, RTÉ NL will expand and prosper."

    The repositioning of RTÉ NL, and its move away from RTÉ in Donnybrook, comes during a period of dynamic change at the organisation. As well as major cost-saving initiatives and a second voluntary exit scheme, the broadcaster is delivering key structural changes that will position it with both long-term sustainable finances as well as the optimal structure for the digital future.

    http://www.rte.ie/about/pressreleases/2012/0723/rtenl23072012.html

    http://www.iftn.ie/broadcast/BroadcastNews/?act1=record&only=1&aid=73&rid=4285185&tpl=archnews&force=1
    http://www.techcentral.ie/19428/rte-announces-repositioning-of-network-subsidiary
    http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/07/24/changes-ahead-for-rtenl/
    http://www.herald.ie/news/rte-subsidiary-moves-3179155.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Slightly off topic but related, an article in Sunday's Business Post newspaper indicates that RTÉNL Director (and RTÉ Executive Board member/RTÉ CFO) Conor Hayes is leaving RTÉ in the latest round of early retirements as confirmed in a staff email last Friday.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/media/chief-costcutter-in-rte-opts-for-early-retirement-3182940.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Follow up to post #19 above

    Question in the Dáil this week on the €38.25 million loan facility to upgrade the transmission network for DTT
    Tuesday, 9 October 2012

    390. Deputy Michael Moynihan
    asked the Minister for Communications; Energy and Natural Resources
    the reason RTÉ borrowed €38.25m to pay for the roll out of DTT multiplex platform in 2010 when it had cash reserves of €63m at the time; the assets against which the borrowings have been secured; in view of the fact that RTÉ has operated deficits over the last number of years amounting to €19 million in 2008, €17 million in 2009, €4 million in 2010, €15 million and estimates of €60 million in 2012, if he will clarify if these deficits have been authorised and if they contravene the State aid requirements; and his views on whether there is a need for fundamental reform of the funding of broadcasting. [42704/12]

    Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources (Deputy Pat Rabbitte): RTÉ is an independent national public service broadcaster whose remit and obligations are set out in Section 114 of the Broadcasting Act 2009.

    Section 98 provides that the company shall be independent in the pursuance of these objects, subject to the requirements of the Act and as such, I, as Minister, have no function in the management of RTÉ’s day to day affairs including decisions it makes on its financial expenditure. These are purely matters for RTÉ management.

    The borrowing referred to in the question, was integral to RTÉ’s funding the €70m capital cost of the new Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) platform, with the remainder coming from its own resources. This investment will greatly improve the quality of TV reception whilst enabling more channels to be broadcast free-to-air. It will also release valuable spectrum to be auctioned to the benefit of the Exchequer thereby facilitating faster mobile broadband speeds especially in rural areas. RTÉ are to be commended on their investment in this regard. In regard to the mix of funding used, the manner in which RTÉ approached this reflects standard practice in the commercial world and demonstrates prudent financial management, in line with the company’s obligations under the legislation.

    In this regard, RTÉ has a direct obligation under Section 105 of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that its revenue is at the earliest possible date at least sufficient to meet all sums properly chargeable to its current account and to make suitable provisions with respect to capital expenditure. I am satisfied that RTÉ management is fully cognisant of this obligation and are taking all the necessary steps to ensure that the company continues to be in compliance with the terms of the provision. In this regard, I can confirm that I have engaged with the Director-General of RTÉ on a number of occasions since my appointment as Minister and I have made my view clear that a continuing deficit position is not tenable. I believe that RTÉ management fully concur with this and are taking the remedial action necessary to address the situation and to deliver on the commitment to return to a breakeven position by the end of 2013.

    In regard to the question of State Aid requirements, I would also like to assure the Deputy that the Broadcaster is fully compliant with State Aid rules and in this regard, I can confirm that the Directorate General for Competition in the E.U. are being kept fully informed of developments in Irish television broadcasting.

    On the question of the future funding of broadcasting, the Deputy should be aware that Section 124(8) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 charges the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland with carrying out a review of the adequacy or otherwise of the public funding of the Public Service Broadcasters to meet their public service objects. In addition, Section 158(1) of the Act provides that the Authority shall review the operation, effectiveness and impact of the broadcasting funding scheme. I look forward to receiving these reviews before the end of the year and they will serve to inform my views on the need for any reform of the public funding of broadcasting.

    http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2012100900068?opendocument#Broadcasting Sector

    Latest from RTÉ's 2011 Annual Report
    On 22 December 2010 RTÉNL, RTÉ’s transmission subsidiary, entered into a project finance loan facility agreement with Barclays Bank amounting to €38.25 million as part of the funding for the transmission and distribution infrastructure required for the Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) project (see below). This facility was drawn down in full at 31 December 2011.

    Capital Expenditure
    RTÉ’s total capital expenditure in 2011 was €24.6 million (2010: €12.9 million) with the most significant item being a further €13.7 million incurred in respect of transmission and distribution infrastructure by RTÉNL for DTT.
    Bank Loan Facility

    Interest rate % - EURIBOR plus margin
    Maturity - 22 December 2015
    2011 - €38,250,000
    2010 - 0

    The following are the contractual maturities of financial liabilities:
    Carrying amount - €38,250,000
    Contractual cash flows - €44,225,000
    Within 1 year - €1,469,000
    1-2 years - €1,369,000
    2-5 years - €41,387,000
    On 22 December 2010, RTÉNL entered into a five year project loan facility agreement amounting to €38.25 million. RTÉNL entered an interest rate swap to convert floating rate debt to fixed rate debt for the entire value and duration of the borrowing facility.

    Lender covenants
    RTÉNL’s bank facility requires it maintain certain financial covenants. Non-compliance with financial covenants would give the lender the right to terminate facilities and demand early repayment of any sums drawn thereunder thus altering the maturity profile of RTÉNL’s debt and RTÉNL’s liquidity. Calculations for financial covenants are completed quarterly. RTÉNL was in full compliance with the financial covenants at the balance sheet date.

    RTÉNL is not aware of any stated events of default as defined in the Agreements.

    Lender security
    It was one of the conditions to the availability of the project loan facility that RTÉNL execute a security deed agreement and provide the lender security as follows:

    a) Lands of 13 main DTT transmission sites;
    b) All RTÉNL present and future fixtures and fittings on the DTT transmission sites;
    c) All RTÉNL rental income and occupational leases;
    d) Rights and benefits of RTÉNL insurance policies;
    e) Certain bank accounts of RTÉNL relating to the DTT project (i.e. the Sinking Fund Account and the Insurance Proceeds Account);
    and
    f) Deeds of Assignment creating security assignments in respect of certain commercial contracts and DTT Construction Contracts.

    RTÉ has entered an undertaking to pay to RTÉNL by way of a loan an amount equal to any interest and/or fees falling due under the loan facility agreement should RTÉNL not have sufficient funds to do so. The undertaking is subject to specific terms and conditions which determine when this obligation arises.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    This from the Irish Times article on the separation of RTÉNL from RTÉ which started this thread
    Under the changes RTENL, which owns and manages the transmission infrastructure of masts and relay stations, will be renamed and its headquarters moved off the Montrose site.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0302/1224312633597.html

    I see on the RTÉNL website a new contact address has appeared, over in Tallaght - Cookstown Court, Old Belgard Road, Cookstown, Dublin 24. Location of the new HQ for a renamed RTÉNL I wonder?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    The Cush wrote: »
    This from the Irish Times article on the separation of RTÉNL from RTÉ which started this thread


    I see on the RTÉNL website a new contact address has appeared, over in Tallaght - Cookstown Court, Old Belgard Road, Cookstown, Dublin 24. Location of the new HQ for a renamed RTÉNL I wonder?


    They still have an RTE telephone number - 01-208 xxxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    12 element wrote: »
    domain: 2rn.ie
    descr: RTE Transmission Network Limited
    descr: Body Corporate (Ltd,PLC,Company)
    descr: Discretionary Name
    admin-c: APR288-IEDR
    tech-c: AAM456-IEDR
    registration: 03-October-2012
    renewal: 03-October-2022
    status: Active
    nserver: ns1.blacknight.com
    nserver: ns2.blacknight.com
    source: IEDR

    person: Mick Kehoe
    nic-hdl: APR288-IEDR
    source: IEDR

    http://www.2rn.ie/ (This domain has been reserved for a client of Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd.)

    Company name remains unchanged - http://www.cro.ie/search/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=364909&type=C


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    12 element wrote: »


    2RN was the call sign of the Irish Free State radio broadcaster Radio Eireann which began broadcasting in 1926 (if I recall correctly). [2RN = to Eireann - I beleive].

    The have long memories up there in Montrose.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,481 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    http://www.rtenl.ie/ now linking to http://2rn.ie/

    2RN Networks
    Block B, Cookstown Court Old Belgard Road Tallaght, Dublin 24.
    Tel: 01 208 2223
    Fax: 01 208 2283


    Business name registered 12th Apr
    Type: Business Name

    Number: 489832

    Name: 2RN

    Address:
    COOKSTOWN COURT
    COOKSTOWN INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
    TALLAGHT
    DUBLIN 24

    Registered: 12/04/2013

    Status: Normal, Effective Date 12/04/2013

    http://www.cro.ie/search/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=489832&type=B

    2RN - WHO WE ARE

    FORMERLY RTENL

    2RN is a communication network operator in Ireland, with a substantial portfolio of developed sites and in house engineering, planning, construction resources and capabilities.

    2RN distributes and transmits the programme services of RTÉ Radio and Television, TV3, TG4, and Today FM.
    We also provide transmission services to a number of local and regional radio broadcasters as well as site services to mobile telephone and broadband operators, private communications companies and the emergency services.

    We are constantly developing our site portfolio in conjunction with customers and land owners.
    We provide a full range of services for the broadcast and communications operators.
    We provide a full range of services for the broadcast and communications operators.

    •Site acquisition and development
    •Frequency planning
    •Engineering design and development
    •System integration and maintenance
    •Hosting of equipment on sites
    •Provision of full turn-key solutions

    New logo
    2rh3cqo.png

    Old logo
    2eq4bqu.png


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    This has been slowly happening since 1999 ... 2001. The Transmission network separated to RTENL about then and technically "For sale" since. But Arqiva is the only likely buyer (formerly NTL who run most TX sites in UK, BBC was forced to sell off sites & gear to Crown Castle and the Excellent BBC TX dept killed. Did Arqiva buy the Crown Castle sites?)

    2RN should be state owned and combined under an umbrella with eNet etc. Eircom experience shows the "value" of privatising State Infrastructure that there should logically be only one off.

    Refuse Collection, Sewerage, Water, Electric Distribution, Mobile Network Infrastructures, Gas Distribution, Rail, Road Network, Telecom and Radio/TV networks are all most resource efficient as single monopolies otherwise there is wasteful duplication. The trick is to run them properly.


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