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Obama arming US State departments to the teeth in pre election run up.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Sorry,

    He has to come up with the facts and figures to prove that my theory is wrong. :)
    Just like you have to prove that I'm not Jesus. Away you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    You don't even need a degree in History to compare the similarities between Adolf Hitler and Barack Obama and the conclusion is inevitable.

    I didn't even mention the health reform bill, the fact that both ruled in countries they weren't born in, both had national socialist ideologies, both spoke at large outdoor gatherings. Perhaps one very worrying thing is that today Obama has has nuke buttons at his finger tips, Adolf Hitler did not. :eek:


    Sorry now but that link is just to the search results for Hitler/Obama similarities, not any actual evidence.

    Joe Duffy has spoken at large outdoor gatherings along with thousands more people so how in the name of god is that proof that Obama is a new Hitler ?

    How does the health reform bill fit into the comparison ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Owryan wrote: »
    Sorry now but that link is just to the search results for Hitler/Obama similarities, not any actual evidence.

    Joe Duffy has spoken at large outdoor gatherings along with thousands more people so how in the name of god is that proof that Obama is a new Hitler ?

    How does the health reform bill fit into the comparison ??
    Joe Duffy would only attract old ones. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Joe Duffy would only attract old ones. :p

    You havent answered my question about the health reform bill and hitler/obama


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Owryan wrote: »
    You havent answered my question about the health reform bill and hitler/obama
    He hasn't answered any questions at all. So much for discussion. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Owryan wrote: »
    You havent answered my question about the health reform bill and hitler/obama



    Hitler's T4 Program Revived In Obama's Healthcare "Reform".

    http://larouchepac.com/node/10424#.T_O1L4oburd.sodahead


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane




    Hitler's T4 Program Revived In Obama's Healthcare "Reform".

    http://larouchepac.com/node/10424#.T_O1L4oburd.sodahead[/QUOTE]

    hitlers healthcare plan was a failure.....44 million people died......beat that!!! barack......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz



    Hitler's T4 Program Revived In Obama's Healthcare "Reform".

    http://larouchepac.com/node/10424#.T_O1L4oburd.sodahead
    Here's proof that he isn't a Nazi.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭indioblack


    was obama born in austria.....??????

    Do you know I think he might have been - and with Adolf being born in Kenya - it's all starting to make sense now.
    The more I think of it, the more I can see physical similarities between the two - aside from the moustache and the skin colour.
    Yep, this threads definitely a winner.
    God, these drugs are good.
    At least no-one's mentioned the English yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Here's proof that he isn't a Nazi.


    And his provision for microchipping chipping the masses. :eek:

    Its all happening.

    Another thing Adolf Hitler would have wet himself for, it would beat Reichpass any day, no excuse for not having it on you 24/ 7 .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    gibraltar wrote: »
    I have asked you the question three times now and you have still not answered,

    Do you know how many rounds are fired for training and firearm recertification? Would you use more or less than an average of 100 rounds per week on training and recertification?

    Is it that you are unwilling or unable to answer this question? if my argument does not hold water then please answer my question and demonstrate where I am wrong.

    I have started a thread in the Military Forum that might answer your questions as I am not a munitions expert.

    There is one thing they pointed out quite promptly, and that is that dumb dumb and hollow points are against the Geneva convention. Whether using them domestically is covered by this or not. If it is not it shows you what respect Obama has for the American People.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,512 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    I have started a thread in the Military Forum that might answer your questions as I am not a munitions expert.

    There is one thing they pointed out quite promptly, and that is that dumb dumb and hollow points are against the Geneva convention. Whether using them domestically is covered by this or not. If it is not it shows you what respect Obama has for the American People.

    Police across the globe use HP ammunition not only those in the US, but by all means blame everything on Obama:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    And his provision for microchipping chipping the masses. :eek:
    Do you have any evidence for this, other than that some CT fans are claiming it? As evidence, they just seem to quote other CT cutomers.

    Where is the primary evidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    There is one thing they pointed out quite promptly, and that is that dumb dumb and hollow points are against the Geneva convention. Whether using them domestically is covered by this or not. If it is not it shows you what respect Obama has for the American People.
    There is plenty of stuff that the Geneva convention forbids that does not apply to non-war situations. For example, crime fighting would rather grind to a halt if you could only as a suspect his name, rank and serial number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tym


    I have started a thread in the Military Forum that might answer your questions as I am not a munitions expert.

    I love how some agree there is a legitimate reason for using them:P
    Of course they will, why wouldn't they? You train with what you use when it counts, for the most part. In addition, they're safer for training purposes, as it's much easier to contain rounds which deform and fragment significantly rather than FMJs, which have much higher integrity and tendency to ricochet, whereupon any splashback or the like is going to be larger particles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Do you have any evidence for this, other than that some CT fans are claiming it? As evidence, they just seem to quote other CT cutomers.

    Where is the primary evidence?

    The thought of microchipping troops is enough to send shivers down any spine because guess who would be next in line :eek:

    There a provision in the Senate Healthcare bill HR3200 covers microchip implants.

    Breakdown of HR3200 .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭davoxx


    Do you have any evidence for this, other than that some CT fans are claiming it? As evidence, they just seem to quote other CT cutomers.
    where is the primary evidence that they are CT fans? as your dismissal seems to stem from labelling everyone as some group and dismissing them based on the group you've labelled them as ...

    if CT deniers are so sure of what is not happening, why do they come here?
    if they honestly think they can't convince CT fans with their patented logic, why bother? are they trying to reassure themselves?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭davoxx


    Here's proof that he isn't a Nazi.

    he does not say he is not a nazi ... :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    indioblack wrote: »
    Do you know I think he might have been - and with Adolf being born in Kenya - it's all starting to make sense now.
    The more I think of it, the more I can see physical similarities between the two - aside from the moustache and the skin colour.
    Yep, this threads definitely a winner.
    God, these drugs are good.
    At least no-one's mentioned the English yet.

    they will......soon.

    swas-tika........a little village in the kenyan highlands....

    the river ess ess runs alongside the village.....

    sei-gheil.....another village nearby.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    davoxx wrote: »
    where is the primary evidence that they are CT fans? as your dismissal seems to stem from labelling everyone as some group and dismissing them based on the group you've labelled them as ...
    You might want to start a thread on that.
    davoxx wrote: »
    if CT deniers are so sure of what is not happening, why do they come here?
    if they honestly think they can't convince CT fans with their patented logic, why bother? are they trying to reassure themselves?
    I'm not a CT denier. Many CTs are real. However, those ones make sense and have - you know - 'evidence'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The thought of microchipping troops is enough to send shivers down any spine because guess who would be next in line :eek:
    Well seeing as nobody has been chipped at all yet, my guess is...nobody.
    There a provision in the Senate Healthcare bill HR3200 covers microchip implants.

    Breakdown of HR3200 .

    No it doesn't.

    This is what it says:
    H.R. 3200 section 2521, Pg. 1001, paragraph 1.
    The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘and is— ‘‘a class III device; or ‘‘a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”
    I know that some people see only what they want to see, but this is taking the biscuit. The provision talks about creating a registry of DEVICES used on patients, not a registry of PATIENTS.

    This is presumably so that somebody somewhere knows exactly what has been approved to be put into people - you know, the same way that there is a registry of approved drugs.

    So here's what he have so far:

    Total number of people chipped with SATAN chips: 0
    Plans to chip people with SATAN chips: 0
    Provisions to chip people with SATAN chips: 0

    The Book of Revelations is not a reliable guide to world events, any more than The Fellowship of the Ring or the Táin Bó Cúailnge is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Total number of people chipped with SATAN chips: 0
    Plans to chip people with SATAN chips: 0
    Provisions to chip people with SATAN chips: 0
    I see your logic.

    Total number of people arrested and interned under NDAA Martial Law: 0
    Total number of people killed by recently purchased hollow point rounds:0
    Total number of people locked up in indefinitally in barned wired FEMA camps:0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Total number of people chipped with SATAN chips: 0
    Plans to chip people with SATAN chips: 0
    Provisions to chip people with SATAN chips: 0
    I see your logic.

    Total number of people arrested and interned under NDAA Martial Law: 0
    Total number of people killed by recently purchased hollow point rounds:0
    Total number of people locked up in indefinitely in barbed wired FEMA camps:0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    I see your logic.

    Total number of people arrested and interned under NDAA Martial Law: 0
    Total number of people killed by recently purchased hollow point rounds:0
    Total number of people locked up in indefinitely in barbed wired FEMA camps:0
    So you don't dispute that the proposed registry is a registry of devices, not patients?

    Ok, so where does that leave your SATAN chip scenario? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Back on topic.

    Agencies tamp down speculation over hollow-point ammo purchases;

    Of course they would. :rolleyes:

    Obscure federal agencies triggered a firestorm of conspiracy theories this week after they put out orders for thousands of rounds of deadly hollow-point bullets.

    But the agencies, most recently the Social Security Administration, are trying to put a damper on the speculation -- noting the ammunition is "standard issue" and simply used for mandatory federal training sessions. "Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately," said a message on the official blog for Social Security's inspector general office explaining the purchases.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/17/agencies-tamp-down-speculation-over-hollow-point-ammo-purchases/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Back on topic.

    Agencies tamp down speculation over hollow-point ammo purchases;

    Of course they would. :rolleyes:
    And what would you expect them to say if this was all another crazy conspiracy theory like the false flag terror attacks/arrival of aliens/crowning of William as king of the NWO at the Olympics?

    It's almost like you are seeing only what you want to see.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭davoxx


    You might want to start a thread on that.
    because you can't provide and answer? okay i accept your white flag ... :)
    I'm not a CT denier. Many CTs are real. However, those ones make sense and have - you know - 'evidence'.
    could have fooled a CT fan as well as a CT denier ...

    makes sense you say? to whom?
    evidence you cry? from whom?

    i know once a CT is proven, many jump aboard the "we knew it was so" train ... but what i asked you for, you failed to deliver ... evidence is lacking i say alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    davoxx wrote: »
    because you can't provide and answer? okay i accept your white flag ... :)

    There is evidence aplenty, but it's only likely to drag this discussion O/T. But for starters, here's the opening two paragraphs of the Pakalert website where RTDH sourced his story:
    Pakalertpress.com is a research project that turned out as one of most popular alternative news publishers over Internet providing news and views to public about such current affairs that the main stream media is hesitant to discuss. We provide awareness and resources to the public and help them in preparing for the worst.

    There are prophecies and oracles from around the world that all seem to point to a New World Age ( World is not going to end but millions of people could die in the process of New Age Transition). The ancient Mayan Calendar, the medieval predictions of Merlin, the Book of Revelation and the Chinese oracle of the I Ching all point to this specific date as the end of civilization. A new technology called “The Web-Bot Project” makes massive scans of the internet as a means of forecasting the future… and has turned up the same dreaded date: 2012. Skeptics point to a long history of “Failed Doomsdays”, but many oracles of doom throughout history have a disturbingly accurate track record.
    So it's a clearing house for conspiracy theories about the end of the world which they confidently expect this year - until of course nothing happens and they come up with a new story. Based on recent experience, it may be that the end of the world was cancelled due to their hard work.
    davoxx wrote: »
    could have fooled a CT fan as well as a CT denier ...
    I don't follow you, I'm afraid.
    davoxx wrote: »
    makes sense you say? to whom?
    evidence you cry? from whom?
    Makes sense to someone who has a basic understanding of the real world.
    davoxx wrote: »
    i know once a CT is proven, many jump aboard the "we knew it was so" train ... but what i asked you for, you failed to deliver ... evidence is lacking i say alright
    Uh...what did you ask me for? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭davoxx


    There is evidence aplenty, but it's only likely to drag this discussion O/T. But for starters, here's the opening two paragraphs of the Pakalert website where RTDH sourced his story:
    that clearly shows what?? are you saying that there are no such prophecies?
    So it's a clearing house for conspiracy theories about the end of the world which they confidently expect this year - until of course nothing happens and they come up with a new story. Based on recent experience, it may be that the end of the world was cancelled due to their hard work.
    i missed the part where they confidently predict it this year.

    but what has this got to do with their article on microchip implants? oh yeah nothing ... unless AOL did not report this ...

    Makes sense to someone who has a basic understanding of the real world.
    you'll find you need an advanced understanding of how the real world works, maybe this is where you are falling over.

    this is why your proof of obama not being a nazi was a random obama youtube video.
    Uh...what did you ask me for?
    so strange, this reminds me of a crook being caught stealing feigning ignorance ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    davoxx wrote: »
    that clearly shows what?? are you saying that there are no such prophecies?


    i missed the part where they confidently predict it this year.
    Read it again.
    davoxx wrote: »
    but what has this got to do with their article on microchip implants? oh yeah nothing ... unless AOL did not report this ...
    You asked for proof that they are CT fans. I gave it. Please stop trying to muddy the waters, people can see through it you know.
    davoxx wrote: »
    you'll find you need an advanced understanding of how the real world works, maybe this is where you are falling over.
    Perhaps, but perhaps it also explains why I have a 100% record for my predictions of future events on this forum, while the CT fans have a close to 0% record...
    davoxx wrote: »
    this is why your proof of obama not being a nazi was a random obama youtube video.
    No, that was because I was making a point that was perhaps more subtle than you are able to pick up.
    davoxx wrote: »
    so strange, this reminds me of a crook being caught stealing feigning ignorance ...
    You asked for evidence that that report was sourced from other CT fans, and you got it. This is more than certain CT fans seem willing to provide, preferring links to the natterings of other CTs fans with an equal absence of proof.

    Seriously, debating in bad faith like this is transparent to the neutral observers you are presumably trying to win over.


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