Originally Posted by ra0044
thanks for the replies. Even the NRA who apparently know about these things say they are not sure.
Deffinately an irish answer to a simple enough problem. I have some experience on bikes so shouldn't be an issue for me but to think that having a car licence to ride one is scary enough as they are completely different.
At least I should be able to get the 400cc engined version so shouldn't be as sluggish to ride.
Does anyone have any experience on an mp3 ? How do you rate them against a standard scooter?
Hello! I contacted the Department of Transport before I bought mine, they forwarded my question to the RSA for an answer:
Licensing Queries [mailto:LicensingQueries@rsa.ie]
26 May 2009 14:21
FW: What licence required?
A tricycle is regarded as a vehicle in category "B" for driver licensing purposes, and the driver is therefore required to hold a category "B" driving licence.
Driving Licensing Section
I bought my MP3 in London and rode it back to Ireland, so I can confirm VRT is calculated based on it being a motorcycle. Motortax is also motorcycle based. But RSA and AON both told me I need a car license to ride it.
Just to clarify on what you use in the rest of Europe, when I bought it in London I was riding it over there on my motorcycle license (I have full car and motorcycle license). In the UK and the rest of the EU the standard MP3 is ridden on a bike license, unless a Piaggio dealer officially modifies it for you by using spacers on the front wheels and makes them 2cm further apart from each other. Then under EU law you can ride it on a car license. Piaggio also make a production model called the "MP3 LT" that already has the front wheels 2 cm further apart, so this model is driven on a car license in all EU countries.
They pretty much handle like any other ordinary scooter or motorcycle. Last 3 days I've been riding my Monster, but most days I'm on the MP3 and switching between the two presents no problems. Braking and grip in wet conditions is excellent. I'd recommend you stick with the recommended Michelin tyres if you get one. The rear wears very quickly, but this is balanced somewhat by the very slow wear and tear on the front tyres.
I can't really compare it to any other scooters, my MP3 was my first foray into the scooter world, I have the 250cc version which I find has acceptable power for my commute. I was tempted by the 500cc Gilera Fuoco, but after seeing the Quadro, I think I'll wait for this.