Sovereign Independent Confronts Rockefeller in Dublin Trilateral Venue

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Did you read the first link I posted to Anthony Sutton's book? Sutton was a mainstream academic (until he got too close to the truth and was persecuted). He was a Hoover institute research fellow and a university professor. His work is far from "gut feeling" and "rumours" it is a scholarly and extenively researched work. He is not a "conspiracy" writer and he has show that Standard Oil, Chase, Du Pont, General Motors, ITT and many others. more than profited thrpugh trading with the enemy (an illegal act in itself) but actively supported the war effort. Henry Ford used to send Hitler money on his birthday for example.
Would there have been a war if the Luftwaffe couldn't get off the ground?

They wouldn't have got off the ground without Rockefeller. Aviation fuel, particurally low-octane German oil required an additive called tetra-ethyl lead to work. Rockefeller's Standard Oil and General Motors together formed Ethyl Corporation 50/50 split with Du Pont operating the manufacturing. Ethyl Corporation held the patent for tetra-ethyl lead. Ethyl Corporation (Standard Oil & GM) passed on the patent to Hitler's Nazi Germany in 1935. This is just a single example of his support. You seem to think he is just a succesful businessman with sometimes questionable morals. While he is a succesgul business with questionable morals (eg financing the tobacco lobby) he is much more than that, he is anti-human life racist facist who is responsible for an unmeasurable amount of death and suffering.

But again, that's profiteering, not plotting against mankind. Businesses have been doing it for thousands of years. People don't get that rich without being ruthless, but that still doesn't mean he's planning on enslaving humanity. See, that's what I'm getting at. Rockefeller and his ilk acted with no regard to anything but their profit margin. They just acted like business men.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

This is taken from the letter from the American ambassador in Berlin to President Roosevelt in May 1935 - The same date as the last payment.



This is extremely clear. War in May 1935 was a "fixed purpose" of the Nazis, and was known to be so. The "fixed drift to war" was known "by every leading diplomat" in Germany on the date of the last Rockefeller payment to the Kaiser Wilhelm institute.

Can you honestly tell me the Rockefeller institute weren't aware of this? That due dilligence wasn't practiced? The Rockefeller agent, Fosdick quoted in the article even worked in the White House for Wilson.

But that jsut shows that war was brewing. Businesses take advantage of countries in war. It all goes back to the profiteering I was talking about.

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I have seen people convicted in court on less evidence than has been shown here.

And so, do you think that it's fair to be found guilty on heresay and conjecture?

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Is it any wonder that people keep hassling him.Important international decisions being made behind closed doors is not democracy.

They are independant business men. They can talk about whatever the hell they like and don't have to have it in public. Blame the governments that listen to them, or the people who vote in those governments (or those who fail to keep those governments out of office).

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Guilty of trafficking a wanted war criminal into our country.

So are you guilty of harbouring a war criminal because you didn't do everything in your power to have him arrested?

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Whats the chances of myself, Brown Bomber, Uprising, enno, Talkie walkie, Torack or mysterious becoming moderator?
Somewhere between slim and none......

Obey the charter, act courteously to ALL forum users and you'll have a hell of a good chance.

RoboClam wrote: »

About as good as the chances of myself, yekahs, robtri, King Mob, Undergod, DiOgenes or PirateShampoo becoming moderator.

sweet....

humanji wrote: »

But that jsut shows that war was brewing. Businesses take advantage of countries in war. It all goes back to the profiteering I was talking about.


They are independant business men.

I can;t argue that they are not business men and are profiteering. But there might be something more sinister about it all. The following warns us about these people and their nature.

To quote from a Hindu text: Ch.16;9 "Following such conclusion, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world."

16;18 "Bewlidered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demon becomes envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated in his own body and in the bodies of others, and blaspehemes against the real religion" -
Explanation: A demoniac person, is envious of both the scriptures and of the existence of God. This is caused by his so-called prestige and his accumulation of wealth and strength. He does not know that the present life is a preparation for the next life. Hot knowing this, he is actually envious of his own self, as well as of others. He commits violence on other bodies and on his own. He does not care for the supreme control of the Personality of Godhead because he has no knowledge. Being envious, he puts forward false arguements against the existence of God and refutes the scriptural authprity. He thinks himself independent and powerful in every action. He thinks that since no one can equal him in strength, power, or in wealth, he can act in any way and no one can stop him. If he has an enemy who might check the advancement of his sensual activities, he makes plans to cut him down by his own power.

Truthrevolution wrote: »

You know what thats a very good point humanji, we all need to take ressponsibility for the mess that has been made of our world.The puppet governments that pander to these powerful super wealthy elites, the people that are voting them in, the truth movement for not providing a political alternative, the subconscious minds of everybody for accepting what is wrong.

btw if the guys out the sovereign independant are still reading, this is how its done.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sbTm-XShZ8

Now that is one ballsy f**ker!

Now that is what im talking about!
Plus everything you said on top of that.Most of the people happily gathered there probably had no inkling about conspiracies or the idea that politics is that corrupt,or most were probably benefiting in some way or why would they turn up?
I like the way he mentioned certain issues that were not well known by the public in general, like the Rothchoilds yacht jibe and so on.
Its just a pity he came off abusive to ignorant bystanders as appearing abusive to ignorant/mind controlled people only makes them more defensive and more likely to feel the need to defend their stance.
But ye good effort for sure.
I wish i was so brave,i think i could formulate some nice chants and questions for events like this hehe.

Personally I feel the NWO very much exists :rolleyes:

And I agree with the poster who says that the majority have been
brainwashed from youth. I feel society is very much built that way.
Just take a minute to have a look around you. From wer'e born wer'e
indoctrinated by a belief system that we get from our parents (e.g.
from a religon, or even what football team to support), our environment,
etc.

The fact is that Joe Public forms he or shes views from the papers they
read or the TV that they watch. I was that way myself until quite
recently. Its sad to say that the Main Stream Media (papers and TV)
today is 'Controlled' and 'Filtered News'.... in other words you only get
to hear the news that the powers that be want you to hear. I stopped
watching TV a while back and I don't think i;ve missed much. Just the
usual politicians bickering, but nothing ever changes ... it's just a movie
been played out for the masses

A prime example of how the media is controlled is RTE's refusal to report
on the recent Trilateral Commission meeting in Dublin. Some of the most
powerful men in the world are meeting and even our leader Mr Cowan is
speaking at it, but yet its not reported. Then people on here amazingly
say 'it's not important enough' :rolleyes: ....

As for the existance of the NWO people say they have no evidence, even
though the men involved have spoke of their globalisation agenda in their
own words, and there are many credible witnesses. Arron Russo for
example - let me remind people that many a witness has sent someone to
the electric chair. To to say it wouldn't hold up in a court of law is muck.

I'd really encourage people on here to have some 'independant thought',
and not to look everything up on the 'wiki' to assure them that it is really
a safe little world we live in :pac:

Just my two cents

Required viewing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SytIuNwvw&feature=related

SO you choose to believe the "Alternative media" instead, a bigger bunch of loons...

Thats your opinion mate not mine. As said the MSM is controlled and
filtered, just full of 30 second sound bites and the like. Enough time
for the government to convince the irish people that NAMA is for 'the
greater good' and so on... its just a channel for the political parties to
sprout their lying propaganda the the public.... an example would be all
that 'Lisbon For Jobs' bull****.... still waiting for those jobs btw

I went through the RTE.ie website the weekend of the TC meeting. And
not a mention of it.

Look if you think that the TC agenda is for the good will of the people at
heart then good luck to you. But I would suggest otherwise.....
I've been involved in politics at a local level and even at that level its corrupt.
What makes you think its any different at the top level?

humanji wrote: »

What exactly would they report on? "A load of people gathered, we don't know what went on. Some guys shouted at Rockefeller. Here's the weather." It's not much to go with.

I don't see why it wouldn't be mentioned though, they didn't need to do a 10 minute piece on it but less important stories are on the news all the time

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Myabe its not that important..and thats why it hasnt been reported.

I really don't see how anyone could say that it's not important tbh.. especially with how things are atm. A group set on, according to themselves; "managing the world economy, and fostering economic development", being addressed in Dublin, by our leader

I'm sure a lot of people would find the whole thing more than important enough to at least mention

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Myabe its not that important..and thats why it hasnt been reported.

Yes maybe that's it. Those nice men were just having a little chin wag.
Of course the meeting of the Trilateral commission is important, as another poster mentioned, RTE often mentions pointless nonsense and salacious gossip about the lives of vacuous celebrities which are of no consequence whatsoever.
Even if you're not convinced by the whole CT world, the trilateral commission meeting should interest you and most defenitely is news worthy.
In any other country (with the exception of the UK and US) some news agency would have run with this story. But of course the good old Irish media know when to keep their mouths shut if they know whats good for them