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M9 - Waterford motorway construction updates

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  • #1352
    placard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭placard


    Common.. how long does it take to cut a ribbon. It's not like it's far from Leinster House. Put the opening forward to Friday. If they can't do that then Roadbridge should open it before the official ceremony.


  • #1353
    NedNew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭NedNew


    Email duly sent to noel.dempsey@oireachtas.ie.


  • #1354
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    dougal wrote: »
    Joe Duffy should be called - we have a safe dual carriageway ready to open and with all the rubbish they talk about road safety especially over the christmas period with more people on the roads!
    Exactly, sad but true but Joe is probably the best hope now for a pre Christmas opening. Consider all their road safety NCT bluster today it makes a total joke of their road safety priorities.


  • #1355
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    I'll be calling his office tomorrow and if it isn't going to open Gerry Ryan and Joe Duffy will be the next call


  • #1356
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,478 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I suggest as many people as possible get onto the local stations ;
    KCLR- reception@kclr96fm.com
    KFM- studio@kfmradio.com

    Sue Nunn may be able to get to the bottom of this shambolic situation.


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  • #1357
    BluntGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    placard wrote: »
    Common.. how long does it take to cut a ribbon.

    Maybe he just misplaced his scissors and he doesn't want to tell anyone, poor thing. :(

    E-mail duly sent btw.


  • #1358
    johnbk
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭johnbk


    I have followed this roads progress since I moved to Kilkenny from the Northwest eight years ago. I have always been impressed by the foresight of our leaders (i.e. Politicians) in planning, building and future proofing such an important piece of infrastructure. I couldn’t think of any possible reason why this road should not be opened, none! if it is indeed finished. Considering how it appears, that the reason is simply down to a ministerial request, then I am disgusted with his short-sightedness.

    For what is worth I have emailed the Department of Transport too and I do think it will make a difference if enough people do the same.

    My views are my own.



  • #1359
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,478 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Just goes to show how out of touch these loons that supposedly run our country are. They think we don't know anything and can fob us off.
    Come on people power and boards.ie!


  • #1360
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Heading over to the Politics forum to see if anyone has any info.


  • #1361
    kildareman007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭kildareman007


    i dont know if they give a rats arse about us or the road....politicians are a shower of grabbers. Next Monday dont suit the minister so.....to hell with us and He will open the road when it suits him....probable after a 2 week stint in Barbados where he has a holiday villa and private pool. wait till you see the tan on him when he arrives..................


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  • #1362
    BluntGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    Two suggestions if you want to get more people to ring and e-mail.

    1) With relevant verification, create a new thread here, one in Commuting & Transport and possibly one in Politics.

    2) Politics.ie, Skyscraper City and other such sites may be good places to highlight this issue.

    And of course obviously, if any of your family, friends and co-workers have any interest in this it would be advisable to get them to shoot off an e-mail or give the relevant authorities a call.

    If it is indeed true that this is down to a ministerial request, then it is utterly unacceptable and everything that is possible must be done to try and make some sort of difference. Dempsey should not be given one iota of credit should the road be opened in January (not that he deserves any now, mind you).


  • #1363
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63532142#post63532142

    Heading to politics.ie now to start a thread

    http://www.politics.ie/fianna-fail/120718-transport-minister-cancels-road-opening.html#post2345782

    Lets see what happens


  • #1364
    kildareman007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭kildareman007


    fair play to ya Villain........ u kno wha ur bout!!!!!
    give em beans


  • #1365
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭sk8board


    jeez guys. I go away for ONE day, one measly short few hours, safe in the knowledge that Castledermot would be a thing of the past next week, and I log back in only to find myself emailling a goverment minister!

    W - T - F


  • #1366
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    newsdesk@irishtimes.com would be interested in this no doubt. If they get a few more mails it's harder to ignore the story I would imagine.


  • #1367
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Good idea but it won't make tomorrows paper so I think Radio media should be contact first and if we fail to make any impact tomorrow then perhaps print media next


  • #1368
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Villain wrote: »
    Heading to politics.ie now to start a thread

    The link back to here does not work .


  • #1369
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    kildareman007 wrote: »
    if the opening is postponed past next monday.... kildare co council could have blood on their hands. Every day and I mean every day there is a serious car crash between Kilcullen and Castledermot. Every day this week near Castledermot there has been a bad crash. I witnessed one yesterday wheer a toyota starlet rear-ended a BMW 3 series with 6 occupants in total. All very badly shook.....lucky there were no life threatening injuries....but there will be one soon if they keep messing up Castledermot.
    Come on lads.......we need publictity on this monumental disaster...... open this road before christmas as planned or some poor families will suffer the consequences........

    I was going to say that sort of collision between two cars travelling in the same direction has nothing to do with the road and everything to do with the driver until...... I read BMW v Micra... then I realised if the motorway had been open this collision could never have happened 'cause no Beemer pilot would ever let a Micra get that close :D.

    I hope Jan is just the official opening, it has to open Monday, it just gotta I tells you, it just gotta (sniff, wipes tear)!


  • #1370
    Cuauhtemoc
    Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭Cuauhtemoc


    Could also email the following

    Matt Cooper - thelastword@todayfm.com
    Mary Wilson - drivetime@rte.ie
    George Hook - therighthook@newstalk.ie
    Eamonn Keane - lunchtime@newstalk.ie

    I'm in the process of doing all plus the ones above.

    Maybe a headline like..
    Minister postpones vital M9 road opening due to holidays

    Or
    Minister puts holidays ahead of road safety

    Who knows. Maybe he'll be shamed into it.

    Edit: Assuming of course this is why it's postponed. But then the AA did have an alert up about the opening ceremony so it must have been cancelled for some reason.

    C.


  • #1371
    kildareman007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭kildareman007


    castledermot is for life.....not just for Xmas!!!!!! be kind to her......she's been abused for years, she is getting dirty -cracks appearing, even leaks!!!! I dont think she will ever be the same again!!!


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  • #1372
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    The link back to here does not work .

    Cheers fixed it


  • #1373
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    EVERYBODY email Brian Cowen and tell him to take a 3 Mile detour from the M7 on his way to Tullamore via Portlaoise of a day and OPEN the road and SAVE a life in the South East this christmas.

    Just because his own lazy and arrogant Transport Minister would rather legalise lights on bicycles than open this motorway does not mean he cannot step in and do it instead.


  • #1374
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Email sent to Vincent Browne

    vincent@browne.it

    his show is coming up soon


  • #1375
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Emails of all TDs - Opens as Word Doc
    http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/members_emails/30_Dail.doc

    Relevant Kildare/Carlow/Kilkenny and Waterford TDs

    bobby.aylward@oireachtas.ie
    [email]ministersoffice@dast.gov.ie [/email]
    john.deasy@oireachtas.ie
    philip.hogan@oireachtas.ie
    bwk@eircom.net
    john.mcguinness@oireachtas.ie
    mj.nolan@oireachtas.ie
    sean.ofearghail@oireachtas.ie
    boshea@eircom.net
    sean.power@oireachtas.ie
    jack.wall@oireachtas.ie
    mary.white@oireachtas.ie


  • #1376
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Has a Facebook Group been made yet? Seemed to make the news for John Joe from Late Late Toy Show and the Henry farce?


  • #1377
    smdweb
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭smdweb


    This is rediculious. Typical Ministers. They got an extra weeks holidays too !:eek:

    I've just shoved a post on my blog - Ta Fearg Mor orm !
    http://shanemcdonald.org/myblog/2009-12-16/opening-of-carlow-kilcullen-section-of-m9-delayed-by-transport-minister/
    :mad: :mad: :mad:


  • #1378
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Lads, are ye all sure about this? Great to see people power being mobilised.


  • #1379
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    morningireland@rte.ie breakfast@newstalk.ie todaypk@rte.ie twitter.com/morning_ireland and dare I say joe@rte.ie

    If nothing else at least hopefully we will get a definitive answer as to whether this is Dempseys call.


  • #1380
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭rameire


    just emailed everybody and their son.
    anybody know the ATM robbers, see if we can borrow one of their diggers to move a few bollards.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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  • #1381
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Dempsey will send some PR Bunny from the NRA along to talk ****e for him.

    Just remove teh barriers and open it yeerselves on monday , that is what people power is. The contractors laid the security off last friday.


  • #1382
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Furet wrote: »
    Lads, are ye all sure about this? Great to see people power being mobilised.

    I have yet to see a confirmed link although I believe it's probably true.

    This will lead to uproar considering were approaching the festive period and more importantly lives saved from the new stretch.


  • #1383
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    tech2 wrote: »
    I have yet to see a confirmed link although I believe it's probably true.

    This will lead to uproar considering were approaching the festive period and more importantly lives saved from the new stretch.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1216/1224260761179.html

    Confirmed yesterday and unconfirmed by Dempsey , personally, today.


  • #1384
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    I've emailed all the news sites. Over 90 people viewing this board at the moment - that's more than I've ever seen here before. Folks, get emailing. This is a disgrace.


  • #1385
    alpha2zulu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭alpha2zulu


    Furet wrote: »
    I've emailed all the news sites.Over 90 people viewing this board at the moment - that's more than I've ever seen here before. Folks, get emailing. This is a disgrace

    Done. Considering their bluster over missing dash light bulbs in NCT's etc today, they really can't get away with this.


  • #1386
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Apparently they are not opening the road because some of the businesses on the old road are only keeping people on until the new road opens. They don't want lay offs the week before Christmas...


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  • #1387
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Might explain why they're having road works until the 24th.


  • #1388
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,555 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    kwinabeeste wrote: »
    Apparently they are not opening the road because some of the businesses on the old road are only keeping people on until the new road opens. They don't want lay offs the week before Christmas...

    I suspect I know what business(es) this is... and it/they're not going to lose anywhere near as much traffic as it could, due to there being *NO MSA* on the entire M9 and a fairly convenient junction for nipping off to it.

    Additionally, its not the job of the NRA to protect a few ultra low paid service industry jobs. If there is a death on the bad sections beyond each end of the Moone/Timolin BP during the time the new road is lying idle the direct cost is going to be more than a few peoples dole, let alone the indirect costs of road deaths.


  • #1389
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    kwinabeeste wrote: »
    Apparently they are not opening the road because some of the businesses on the old road are only keeping people on until the new road opens. They don't want lay offs the week before Christmas...

    I don't believe that for a single second to be honest.


  • #1390
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    MYOB wrote: »
    I suspect I know what business(es) this is... and it/they're not going to lose anywhere near as much traffic as it could, due to there being *NO MSA* on the entire M9 and a fairly convenient junction for nipping off to it.

    Additionally, its not the job of the NRA to protect a few ultra low paid service industry jobs. If there is a death on the bad sections beyond each end of the Moone/Timolin BP during the time the new road is lying idle the direct cost is going to be more than a few peoples dole, let alone the indirect costs of road deaths.

    And they are required to have at least 2 weeks notice, so open the road and they are still employed til the "new" convenient (for Dempsey) open date!


  • #1391
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Furet wrote: »
    I don't believe that for a single second to be honest.

    heard it from a reliable source..


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  • #1392
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,555 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Furet wrote: »
    I don't believe that for a single second to be honest.

    Its vaguely plausible. There's four petrol stations, one of which gets huge deli trade; and a few pubs with food on the route.

    The one that gets the huge deli trade is diversifying to cope with the loss of traffic, its opening a medical centre (in a petrol station!) in "november" apparently - I'd take it its been delayed a little - for instance.


  • #1393
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    kwinabeeste wrote: »
    Apparently they are not opening the road because some of the businesses on the old road are only keeping people on until the new road opens. They don't want lay offs the week before Christmas...

    Sounds like spin and tbh I don't care road safety comes before a few jobs everyday


  • #1394
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    kwinabeeste wrote: »
    heard it from a reliable source..
    Name the source or it isn't reliable.

    Looking forward to tomorrow now haven't been on Joe Duffy or Gerry Ryan show in a good while. Dempsey is going to come out of this in bad light


  • #1395
    Dilby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭Dilby


    another rumour going around from the KCC side is that they don't have the money in this years budget to pay a bonus and thats why its been put off until jan. I know this idea was thrown around before here but this time it came from KCC NRDO staff


  • #1396
    BluntGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    The businesses in question have known for a good few years that a new road was in planning and they were certainly aware of it being under construction and should've made it their business to know the expected opening date.

    I feel sorry for anyone who's going to struggle but unfortunately a business dependent on long-distance traffic on routes that are being bypassed is simply not viable.

    They have been given time to prepare for this. Two weeks will make negligible difference to them, but it will certainly make a difference to a family that may lose a loved one on the old stretch of N9 due to this ridiculous farce.


  • #1397
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Villain wrote: »
    Name the source or it isn't reliable.

    Looking forward to tomorrow now haven't been on Joe Duffy or Gerry Ryan show in a good while. Dempsey is going to come out of this in bad light

    I'd rather not.

    I want this road open as much as every one here and i think that protecting a few jobs in favour of road safety is a sham.

    This is a fook up or all proportions. Announce it yesterday - Take it back today. Bad management and typical politicking!

    I'm not a happy chappy!:mad:


  • #1398
    mackerski
    Registered Users Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭mackerski


    BluntGuy wrote: »
    I feel sorry for anyone who's going to struggle but unfortunately a business dependent on long-distance traffic on routes that are being bypassed is simply not viable.

    We could have a boards whiparound to pay off the staff affected - everybody pledges a tenner in a good cause :D


  • #1399
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Villain wrote: »
    Name the source or it isn't reliable.

    Looking forward to tomorrow now haven't been on Joe Duffy or Gerry Ryan show in a good while. Dempsey is going to come out of this in bad light

    Eh, could you let us know with a quick post here if you'll be on the radio? I'd love to hear it!


  • #1400
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    THE PLANNED opening on Monday of a €300 million motorway from Kilcullen, Co Kildare, to the Carlow bypass has been deferred by Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey.
    The move follows representations to the Minister from Kildare South TD Seán Power about the timing of the event.
    Mr Power told The Irish Times that while he had made “numerous” representations to the Minister and to the National Roads Authority (NRA) on behalf of retailers and a particular petrol station along the route of the current road, and would have serious concerns for the pre-Christmas trade of these businesses, he was “not suggesting for one minute that this is why the opening has been postponed”.
    He said he had travelled the road recently, and was concerned it was not fully completed.
    Concerns about a premature opening had been voiced by engineers associated with the project, and he had relayed these to Mr Dempsey in recent days.
    However, the NRA, which signed off on the completion of the road this week, yesterday reiterated the road has been safely completed.
    Initial dates discussed by Kildare County Council for the opening of the road were today or yesterday, before a date of Monday next was agreed by the NRA, Kildare County Council and the Minister.
    However, following Mr Power’s representations to the Minister, Mr Dempsey requested a postponement of the opening until some time in January, to which the NRA acceded.
    It is also understood representations were made by members of Kildare County Council.
    A spokesman for Mr Dempsey said the road opening was postponed after representations by local TDs.
    The 27km stretch of motorway will provide a bypass of Castledermot and a new national secondary road to Athy town via the junction at Mullamast in Co Kildare.
    With a €300 million cost and a typical economic return of 8 per cent, a four-week delay will cost the State about €1.8 million.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838848.html

    This is OUTRAGEOUS. Where is the RSA?


  • #1401
    kwinabeeste
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭kwinabeeste


    Furet wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838848.html

    This is OUTRAGEOUS. Where is the RSA?

    that is a disgrace! as a non engineer, any truth in the claims bout not being finished hold any truth?


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