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Root Canal

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  • 25-11-2009 4:59pm
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    superhooper
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭


    Just told that blood flow in my tooth is coming close to a filling and therefore need root canal treatment for €950. Is there any other way to get around this bar extraction e.g different type filling etc.:confused:


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    ballsymchugh
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    are you in any pain/discomfort??


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    Samson
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    That sounds very expensive, I had a root canal a couple of years ago and it cost €400.00 (within the state).
    My cousin has recently had a root canal performed in Newry and it cost her £210.00 stg.


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    ballsymchugh
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    Samson wrote: »
    That sounds very expensive, I had a root canal a couple of years ago and it cost €400.00 (within the state).
    My cousin has recently had a root canal performed in Newry and it cost her £210.00 stg.

    depends on the tooth, the price quoted is pretty much what a specialist would charge for an upper molar especially.


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    superhooper
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    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    depends on the tooth, the price quoted is pretty much what a specialist would charge for an upper molar especially.

    Yeah its an upper molar. Pain level is quite high. Am constantly sipping water.


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    ballsymchugh
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    hmmm. when a nerve is dying off, cold liquids help to calm it down, and hot liquids will irritate the hell out of it, so it sounds like root canal treatment is the likely way to go if you don't want an extraction.
    it was the whole 'blood flow in my tooth is coming close to a filling' that was slightly confusing, as i've never put it that way myself, or heard any other dentist or endodontist put it that way either.


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    superhooper
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭superhooper


    It was when he was showing me the xrays that he used the term "blood flow". Would an extraction be that bad.


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    georgieporgy
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    superhooper wrote: »
    Just told that blood flow in my tooth is coming close to a filling and therefore need root canal treatment for €950. Is there any other way to get around this bar extraction e.g different type filling etc.:confused:

    If you have a good set of teeth it would be a pity to mess things up by having extractions. If you have prsi cover you will get about €80 off the fee, plus it's a tax deductible item so you will get 20 back that way (assuming you are one of those rich people that does actually pay tax!)

    950 sounds like you happened on to somebody competent. One thing you definitely don't want is a cheap root canal.


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    Run_to_da_hills
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    superhooper wrote: »
    Just told that blood flow in my tooth is coming close to a filling and therefore need root canal treatment for €950. Is there any other way to get around this bar extraction e.g different type filling etc.:confused:
    Dose this quote include a post and crown? :confused:

    If not you could add another €100 for the post and at least €450 for a porcelain fused to metal :eek:


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    superhooper
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭superhooper


    Apparently i won't need a crown as the tooth is generally ok. I asked this question specifically.


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    Wow sounds very dear. I had a root canal done about 2 months back plus 3 fillings and It was £95.


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    Zardoz
    Registered Users Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Looks like I might need a Root Canal treatment myself.
    I had a white filling fall out of one of my lower molars and part of the tooth broke off too.
    My dentist said there wasnt much of the tooth left and he drilled it out for a temporary dressing.
    However after drilling he said he could see the nerve ! That didnt sound good to me.:eek:
    The tooth is sensitive to cold air and liquids,hot is ok.
    I must go back in a week and if the tooth is ok it can be filled otherwise it will be root canal treatment for me .1000 euro was the figure mentioned to me as the likely cost.
    Hopefully I will get away with a filling but I doubt it.


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    res ipsa
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    superhooper wrote: »
    Apparently i won't need a crown as the tooth is generally ok. I asked this question specifically.

    Based on that comment, I would advise you to seek a second opinion.


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    superhooper
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭superhooper


    Got it done.Oh sweet sweet sleep!!!! Wasn't that bad actually and only very mild discomfort after anesthetic worn off. Tks for advice all.


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    jane86
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    My dentist told me I need to get a root canal on one of my back lower teeth. I get pain by cold drinks and hot drinks relieve the pain. They said it would be around €800. I really can't afford this so I will ring around for quotes South and in the North. Any reccommendations of a good Endodontist? :o

    They put a dressing or temporary filling on it. Does this mean my tooth is ok for awhile (bar the pain) or does it mean the tooth is still decaying and I need a root canal asap?


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    superhooper wrote: »
    Yeah its an upper molar. Pain level is quite high. Am constantly sipping water.

    Upper molars always require crowns after root canal treatment wiithout exception, if you dont you run the risk of major fracture down the line. The research backs this up over the last 60 years.


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    jane86 wrote: »
    I really can't afford this so I will ring around for quotes South and in the North. Any reccommendations of a good Endodontist? :o?

    An endodontist will cost more than a general dentist but generally a better job will be done. In the north there are few endodontists thanks to the NHS system and they cost more than the general dentists. Also you most likely will need a crown afterwards, factor in that cost also. Remember that the cheapest place may not be the best, buy cheap buy twice.


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    Sariah Tangy Snorer wrote: »
    Upper molars always require crowns after root canal treatment wiithout exception, if you dont you run the risk of major fracture down the line. The research backs this up over the last 60 years.


    What about upper pre-molars? I had a root canal there a couple months back, no crown.


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    res ipsa
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    PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »
    What about upper pre-molars? I had a root canal there a couple months back, no crown.

    ALL premolar and molar teeth, both upper and lower will need cuspal protection(usually a crown) after rct.


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    res ipsa wrote: »
    ALL premolar and molar teeth, both upper and lower will need cuspal protection(usually a crown) after rct.


    What other Cuspal protection is there? You say usually a crown.


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    Big_G
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    There are a few, but the major other type of cuspal coverage is onlay.


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    Root treated teeth are weaker because of the loss of the bracing cuspal inclines due to access and restoration, to strengthen them a crown of very extensive onlay is required. Molars and premolars all require cuspal coverage after RCT without exception (well if there is no opposing tooth maybe not but in general). IMHO I crown them, the ammount of tooth saved with a big onlay over a crown is minimal and the facial margin can cause aesthetic concerns on onlays.


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    monkeypants
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    I had a root canal done a few years ago. Taking a couple of valium before going to the dentist help enormously. Really takes the edge off.


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    Sariah Tangy Snorer wrote: »
    Root treated teeth are weaker because of the loss of the bracing cuspal inclines due to access and restoration, to strengthen them a crown of very extensive onlay is required. Molars and premolars all require cuspal coverage after RCT without exception (well if there is no opposing tooth maybe not but in general). IMHO I crown them, the ammount of tooth saved with a big onlay over a crown is minimal and the facial margin can cause aesthetic concerns on onlays.


    Mine is just really deeply filled.:(


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »
    Mine is just really deeply filled.:(

    Root treated teeth are weaker because of the loss of the bracing cuspal inclines due to access and restoration = dentist speak for just really deeply filled, afraid probably best to get a crown. Will save you hastle in the long run


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    Sariah Tangy Snorer wrote: »
    Root treated teeth are weaker because of the loss of the bracing cuspal inclines due to access and restoration = dentist speak for just really deeply filled, afraid probably best to get a crown. Will save you hastle in the long run


    But why did the dentist not even mention it? She must reckon its ok?!?!


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »
    But why did the dentist not even mention it? She must reckon its ok?!?!

    The standard advice is that all back teeth and some front teeth need crowns after root canal to prevent future fracture. Everything else is between you and your dentist. If you are worried go back and ask.


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    PapaYankeeGirl
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    Sariah Tangy Snorer wrote: »
    The standard advice is that all back teeth and some front teeth need crowns after root canal to prevent future fracture. Everything else is between you and your dentist. If you are worried go back and ask.


    Thanks for your advice, but Ive had enough of that place. Il leave it till my check up in 5 months.


    Ta ta for now


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    btkm8unsl0w5r4
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    PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »
    Thanks for your advice, but Ive had enough of that place. Il leave it till my check up in 5 months.


    Ta ta for now

    Fair enough, you know the risks :D


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    Big_G
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    Sariah Tangy Snorer wrote: »
    Root treated teeth are weaker because of the loss of the bracing cuspal inclines due to access and restoration, to strengthen them a crown of very extensive onlay is required. Molars and premolars all require cuspal coverage after RCT without exception (well if there is no opposing tooth maybe not but in general). IMHO I crown them, the ammount of tooth saved with a big onlay over a crown is minimal and the facial margin can cause aesthetic concerns on onlays.

    (Said in a Dutch accent) "I love goooooooollllld!".


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    georgieporgy
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    PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »
    But why did the dentist not even mention it? She must reckon its ok?!?!

    PapaYankee, I think you said on another recent tread that you had a root canal and a couple fillings done for approx £90. Would this be the root canal that was included in that price? I estimate the fee allotted to the root canal would therefore have been about £30. That's cheap even for 'the North'.
    My guess is you didn't actually have a root canal done.


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