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911 Porsche
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19-11-2008 10:04am#1
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I'll bite!
Get VRT and insurance quotes before you do anything that involves money!What age does the car need to be to put it on classic ?
20 yrs old is usually the timeframe.
Will there be a huge road tax bill each year ?
Yes!
will I be liable for VRT ?
Yes!
Do all insurance companies need you to have insurance on one other car i.e the classic ins't the main car ?
Yes - if you are to get proper classic insurance. You *might* get away with named driver on a "partners" car. You'd probably need to be cohabiting though.
Would 10k's worth of mid 80's Porsche buy me anything but trouble ?
I'll let someone else answer that.
Maybe pick a random £10k porsche and make the calls.
You could save a chunk of cash in VRT and annual tax by restricting your search to pre-1979 cars (i.e. 30+ yr old)...
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more than 30, no (Eur42 p.a.)
Let's get over this illusion of no VRT on a car aged 30 or over. There is VRT (category C), but it's a flat rate €50.
VRT on something like that under 30 years old will most likely be 36% based on OMSP.
And while we're at it, let's get the motor tax rates correct.
Motor tax rate for vehicles under 30 years old and 3001cc or more vehicles is €1491 (€1566 from 01/01/2009)
Motor tax rate for "vintage" vehicles is €46, but is set to increase on the 1st January 2009 to €48.
The rest of the motor tax rate increases can be found HERE (PDF) (Adobe Acrobat Reader required) Any motors 2.5l and under sees a 4% increase and those over see a 5% increase.
Given that huge divide, like others, I suggest a 30+ year old motor. :cool:0 -
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macplaxton wrote: »Let's get over this illusion of no VRT on a car aged 30 or over. There is VRT (category C), but it's a flat rate €50.
VRT on something like that under 30 years old will most likely be 36% based on OMSP.
And while we're at it, let's get the motor tax rates correct.
Motor tax rate for vehicles under 30 years old and 3001cc or more vehicles is €1491 (€1566 from 01/01/2009)
Motor tax rate for "vintage" vehicles is €46, but is set to increase on the 1st January 2009 to €48.
The rest of the motor tax rate increases can be found HERE (PDF) (Adobe Acrobat Reader required) Any motors 2.5l and under sees a 4% increase and those over see a 5% increase.
Given that huge divide, like others, I suggest a 30+ year old motor. :cool:
Well until you import a Porsche - or more than one - you're going to have pull in the horns and listen to someone who has.
The answer of mine you highlighted is related to Car tax - not VRT - so unless you're making a big deal of 42 vs 48 Euro.....
And, remember, OSP of a C2 is around 140k. Do the math. Whether on a sliding scale, or other 'cherished' scale, you're going to pay through the nose for a sub-30 yr old one.
Now, OP, I see you say Anan's one is outside your budget. It's cheaper than your theoretical 10k Stg, once the VRT is paid, believe me.
My 968, a car valued by most as a lot cheaper than a 911, cost 3.8k in VRT this year. So, taking your 10k Stg 911 @ 12000 Eur, add 3k VRT, and costs to get, etc, then.......
More, here on Irish cars.. Porsche Club Ireland
Look at it this way, I got BOTH of these for a bit more than the price of my old 87 911
Insurance is the same, running cost miles apart. 968 as cheap to run as a big Audi. Oh, and has PAS, as well.......Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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I think I have decided that a pre 79 is the only way to go, a Porsche isn't the option, it's a 911 or nothing. My childhood dream has little compromise
All I need to know is will £10k or €12k in the UK buy me nothing worth having or a reasonable drive.0 -
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I think I have decided that a pre 79 is the only way to go, a Porsche isn't the option, it's a 911 or nothing. My childhood dream has little compromise
All I need to know is will £10k or €12k in the UK buy me nothing worth having or a reasonable drive.
10k will get you a reasonable drive. Add in Sterling etc, getting it, and inspection costs (I wouldn't dream of buying without one), and it's no longer 10k, so I think you need to quantify that, now. When you do that math, have a look in this market too - it's a fact, that a huge amount of the Porsches - most, probably ! - are ex-UK anyway, so one that's already here is essentially the same thing. And not all of them are VRT'd yet.........
Tip - Wales, and the North of England is cheaper than the South East.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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macplaxton wrote: »Re-read post and apologise for misinterpreting the "no" bit. I not making a big deal about the 14.2% difference.
thought as much - cool
btw - I went and bought a bunch of DVD's for myself last Christmas (sad, I know...:rolleyes:). Grand Prix (w/James Garner - brilliant), but also Le Mans with Steve McQueen.
Cool, in a weird way. No dialogue at all, hardly, but the opening.....15 ?....mins are all Steve driving his (own), 911 to the race. Fascinating - the car looks fab - well worth a few bob for the library. Nice to see cars before they got..........too complicated. No spoilers, no wide wheels, sitting nice and high ('Irish Tarmac Spec is probably what we'd call it now !
) etc etc. Sprinkling of chrome in the right place. Must have done more for Porsche 911 sales in the US then all the marketing campaigns put together. Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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thought as much - cool
btw - I went and bought a bunch of DVD's for myself last Christmas (sad, I know...:rolleyes:). Grand Prix (w/James Garner - brilliant), but also Le Mans with Steve McQueen.
Cool, in a weird way. No dialogue at all, hardly, but the opening.....15 ?....mins are all Steve driving his (own), 911 to the race. Fascinating - the car looks fab - well worth a few bob for the library. Nice to see cars before they got..........too complicated. No spoilers, no wide wheels, sitting nice and high ('Irish Tarmac Spec is probably what we'd call it now ! ) etc etc. Sprinkling of chrome in the right place. Must have done more for Porsche 911 sales in the US then all the marketing campaigns put together.
That 911 was McQueens own road car BTW. If you notice it was a US spec... I seen it featured on Discovery where Steve McQueens son was driving it. It still has only 40k miles and belongs to the family !;)0 -
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Have a customers 1973 Carrera RS in restore at the moment.
But it's not for sale
And i have a 1981 SC that is getting in bits to have parts for my 1973 VW Variant. Everybody can drive a 911, but driving a Squareback with a 911 underneed is better 0 -
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