Limerick-Foynes Rail Line

elastico · 18-02-2015 12:24pm

Treepole wrote: »

It's happening alright. The line is obviously in a state of disrepair so firstly the vegetation will be cleared. There will also be structural repairs to be done to a number of the river crossings. Also the existing manual road crossing gates are to be replaced with automatic ones.

All they are doing is cutting some trees etc. so that a survey can be done to investigate what structural repairs are necessary and cost of same etc.. They won't go wasting money on automatic gates when they have no customers for the line yet.

You have made a mistake here, they are clearing vegetation. The line is not reopening as you stated in post #26.

While this is a positive development it must be pointed out similar work was done in Mayo / Sligo 6 or 7 years ago and nothing came of it. It may lead to something though so time will tell.

Markcheese · 18-02-2015 12:29pm

I assume strengthening and repairing the line and installing automatic level crossings would cost a fair bit - ( Irish rail says they cost a couple of million each ? )
So it'd need a fair bit of traffic to make it worth while transporting ore by rail .

Treepole · 18-02-2015 12:46pm

elastico wrote: »

All they are doing is cutting some trees etc. so that a survey can be done to investigate what structural repairs are necessary and cost of same etc.. They won't go wasting money on automatic gates when they have no customers for the line yet.

You have made a mistake here, they are clearing vegetation. The line is not reopening as you stated in post #26.

While this is a positive development it must be pointed out similar work was done in Mayo / Sligo 6 or 7 years ago and nothing came of it. It may lead to something though so time will tell.

OK. Time will tell but I am extremely confident that I will be proved right. See you all in 9 months.

elastico · 18-02-2015 1:23pm

Treepole wrote: »

OK. Time will tell but I am extremely confident that I will be proved right. See you all in 9 months.

A stopped clock is right twice a day. You stated previously that the line is reopening and track repair work has already started.

Now you seem to agree this is no longer the case, you are just confident it might happen in the short term.

Which is it then?

Lenton Lane · 18-02-2015 1:45pm

The work is to allow a study to go ahead, bear in mind restoration of rail freight is part of Foynes ports plans and that the line has been earmarked as part of the Ten-t core network.

So while I am cautiously optimistic that the study will be positive I also note the determination of some to constantly undermine any positive developments on rail.

elastico · 18-02-2015 1:50pm

Lenton Lane wrote: »

The work is to allow a study to go ahead, bear in mind restoration of rail freight is part of Foynes ports plans and that the line has been earmarked as part of the Ten-t core network.

So while I am cautiously optimistic that the study will be positive I also note the determination of some to constantly undermine any positive developments on rail.

Nobody is trying to undermine anything positive. On the one hand there is a letter from Irish Rail saying its clearance work for a study, and on the other we have an anonymous poster registering on boards to make a ridiculous statement that track repair work has started when clearly it hasn't.

The only one undermining anything positive is the one making up stories stating that the line is reopening and track repair work has started when clearly its nothing of the sort.

corktina · 18-02-2015 2:01pm

an anonymous new member backed up by another anonymous new member...it makes you wonder . Rather than undermine the project, it makes you wonder why someone is trying to talk up the project!

cgcsb · 18-02-2015 3:09pm

Lenton Lane wrote: »

bear in mind restoration of rail freight is part of Foynes ports plans and that the line has been earmarked as part of the Ten-t core network.

So is DART underground but that never happened either, and that is by far a more economically vital project so you'll forgive my skepticism.

stevielenihan · 20-02-2015 3:34pm

Somebody should fire up the photos of the clearance works on the line.

Victor · 22-02-2015 2:28am

corktina wrote: »

an anonymous new member backed up by another anonymous new member...it makes you wonder . Rather than undermine the project, it makes you wonder why someone is trying to talk up the project!

Keep it constructive please.

If you have a problem with a post, report it.

Speculation as to a user's identity is against the site rules.

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Paddico · 18-06-2015 12:20pm

Treepole wrote: »

How close are the new mines located to existed rail infrastructure?

Just north of Thurles so right beside the Cork Dublin line

Markcheese · 18-06-2015 1:41pm

Paddico wrote: »

Just north of Thurles so right beside at Cork Dublin line

So as easy to go to Dublin, Waterford or even cork as foynes ?

Carawaystick · 18-06-2015 2:21pm

Is there still rail access to Cork port? Looks like the line is disconnected at the Fert, same as in Arklow.

Treepole · 18-06-2015 11:17pm

Paddico wrote: »

Just north of Thurles so right beside the Cork Dublin line

:rolleyes: The new mines being discussed here are no where near Thurles. They are out around Caherconlish.

Airplane Man · 22-08-2016 3:01pm

Is the Foynes line likely to reopen?

trellheim · 26-08-2016 2:06pm

No. Not unless someone stumps up the cash for the line and bridge renewals.

1huge1 · 04-09-2016 7:13pm

The track is still there and trains can technically run on it (though its heavily overgrown with grass etc), but there will have to be a fair bit of maintenance before it can open fully.

Akin to the Phoenix Park Tunnel reopening I imagine.

flyingsnail · 04-09-2016 7:34pm

1huge1 wrote: »

The track is still there and trains can technically run on it (though its heavily overgrown with grass etc), but there will have to be a fair bit of maintenance before it can open fully.

Few places they would need to take a running jump to get over the gaps

Akin to the Phoenix Park Tunnel reopening I imagine.

Considering the Phoenix park tunnel was an operating railway that got a bit of an upgrade vs Foynes being a closed railway that probably requires a complete relay I don’t see many valid comparisons.

GerardKeating · 05-09-2016 11:58pm

1huge1 wrote: »

Akin to the Phoenix Park Tunnel reopening I imagine.

But the Phoenix Park Tunnel never closed, it has been in almost Daily used since it opened in 1877.

1huge1 · 06-09-2016 6:11pm

Hence my very Irish way of putting it

1huge1 wrote: »

but there will have to be a fair bit of maintenance before it can open fully.

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marno21 · 22-05-2017 6:10pm

Tender gone out for an investigation along the route by Shannon Foynes Port Company.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=112841&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

marno21 · 05-07-2017 10:26pm

Tender gone out today for civil, environmental and structural consultantcy services along the line

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=115080&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

McAlban · 06-07-2017 2:17pm

Always thought this could provide a new commuter service for Limerick if re-opened and managed properly.

Rathkeale, Adare, Patrickswell, Raheen Business Park, Dooradoyle is a corridor for development.

Paddico · 06-07-2017 2:47pm

Has part of the rail line or embankments benn destroyed and built upon or is it possible to still run a train on it once its all been re-layed?

GerardKeating · 06-07-2017 3:17pm

Paddico wrote: »

Has part of the rail line or embankments benn destroyed and built upon or is it possible to still run a train on it once its all been re-layed?

Technically, the line is still open, but has deteriorated so much, I doubt it a train could make the journey, even at very slow speeds.

trellheim · 07-07-2017 4:52pm

Yes, that is one end of the service - but what about the other end ? is Colbert a good place for them to end up ? you'd need to rebuild the Careys rd bridge to put back in the North Kerry line connection without needing a reversal at the Check cabin , but what if you built a spur where the Ennis line crosses the shannon, to UL ?

McAlban · 07-07-2017 5:01pm

trellheim wrote: »

Yes, that is one end of the service - but what about the other end ? is Colbert a good place for them to end up ? you'd need to rebuild the Careys rd bridge to put back in the North Kerry line connection without needing a reversal at the Check cabin , but what if you built a spur where the Ennis line crosses the shannon, to UL ?

[Crayonism]Well Rebuilding The Carey's Road Bridge would require demolishing the Irish Rail Sports and Social Club on Carey's Road too. But Hey Irish Rail have loads of land in the Area. Into Colbert is one option. Or Straight onto Castleconnell? With a New Stop out at Annacotty Business Park? Shuttle bus could connect to UL from there. [/Crayonism]

McAlban · 17-07-2017 1:25pm

McAlban wrote: »

[Crayonism]Well Rebuilding The Carey's Road Bridge would require demolishing the Irish Rail Sports and Social Club on Carey's Road too. But Hey Irish Rail have loads of land in the Area. Into Colbert is one option. Or Straight onto Castleconnell? With a New Stop out at Annacotty Business Park? Shuttle bus could connect to UL from there. [/Crayonism]

After what Trellheim Said: Over the weekend I thought a bit about this and decided to get the crayons out... Discuss...

falconio · 17-07-2017 11:14pm

Great work!
So basically you have two lines RathKeale to Roscrea and Ennis to Tipperary which are largely extant today.
The hard bit is getting from the current terminus to Cratloe which would have to be underground / cut and cover for a few kms going by that map?
Limerick seems to have a great basis for a future metro / light rail system.
Hopefully the regional cities won't end up like Dublin.

McAlban · 18-07-2017 10:47am

falconio wrote: »

Great work!
So basically you have two lines RathKeale to Roscrea and Ennis to Tipperary which are largely extant today.

Issue Being Both lines would need to be upgraded for safe speedy running.

falconio wrote:

The hard bit is getting from the current terminus to Cratloe which would have to be underground / cut and cover for a few kms going by that map?

Yes, The entire Plan would not work without a Light Rail from UL - LIT and on to Shannon. Unfortunately to have an integrated network this requires connection to Colbert underground.

falconio wrote:

Limerick seems to have a great basis for a future metro / light rail system.
Hopefully the regional cities won't end up like Dublin.

In an Ideal World... It reminds me of the Forfas Plan for Dart

Limerick-Foynes Rail Line

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