Eir rural FTTH thread

Gonzo · 20-03-2017 10:48am

knipex wrote: »

Just had a look at their website and didn't see any reference to a signup fee.

So price wise Eir are the cheapest by about €3.75 per month. BUT I have no interest in a phone and as neither Pure nor Eir seem to be interested in offering broadband only Digiweb work out cheapest for me. (although I am sure they both have a package somewhere that works out the same price as Digiweb)

Eir do have broadband only but it's only searchable if your line is already passing for FTTH under broadband only. If your line is not passing for FTTH then you see DSL and FTTC broadband only offers.

Eir's Standalone FTTH Prices:
They have discounts for the 300 and 1000 packages for the first year.

150 - 55 per month
300 - 53 per month first 4 months then 63 for month 5-12
1000 - 45 per month first 4 months then 75 for month 5-12

Gonzo · 20-03-2017 12:46pm

Open Eir map is updated:

Dunshaughlin has 230 premises passed out of 570, although the area seems to be finished alot of lines are held back from going live for whatever reason, would explain why Marcel has not been able to order fibre yet.

Gonzo · 20-03-2017 2:10pm

just gone through the map, a significant jump in rural premises passed, a jump of almost 6,000 premises since last month. Still falling way short of the original 100,000 for end of March but a very welcome change to see the numbers improving. The Urban 66 towns rollout is almost at a standstill, barely changed in months, not surprised as FTTH isn't really in demand in built up areas with plenty of cheaper alternatives available that are still very fast. I may have missed a few places, it's getting increasingly very difficult to check the map as more places have to be checked.

Rural Blue Lines

Virginia – 670 / 750
Carlingford – 530 / 570
Ballyfarnan – 360 / 490
Belcarra – 350 / 340
Inverin – 610 / 690
Athboy – 530 / 560
Courtown – 860 / 870
Killinick - 420 / 420
Ballyboden – 230 / 250
Rahan – 230 / 300
Youghal – 320 / 330
Dungloe – 590 / 600
Ballyclough – 340 / 510
Belclare – 360 / 510
Turloughmore – 730 / 830
Quigleys Point – 380 / 520
Strandhill – 240 / 260
Blessington – 100 / 350
Duncannon – 350 / 420
Crosshaven – 120 / 140
Dunfanaghy - 540 / 600
Ringaskiddy - 120 / 160
Annascaul – 160 / 510
Ballybrittas – 390 / 290
Brittas Bay Bridge – 390 / 440
Clarina – 80 / 480
Newbridge – 100 / 300
Rhode – 310 / 360
Oranmore – 540 / 850
Roslevin – 70 / ??
Dunleer – 560 / 1110
Curracloe – 540 / 530
Cornamona – 110/ 100
Kells – 140 / 590
Coolboy – 210 / 220
Blarney – 340 / 510
Cornafulla – 300 / 360
Kilmore Quay – 170 / 180
Dunshaughlin – 230 / 570
Horseleap – 90 / 120
Portarlington – 460 / 260
Rosslare Harbour – 120 / 410
Broadway – 490 / 930
Kilmuckridge – 460 / 510
Robertstown – 350 / 1110
Inch – 120 / 1210
Rathowen – 30 / 230
Cappawhite – 130 / 220
Croom – 70 / 400
Ballincollig – 130 / 450
Dooradoyle – 110 / 360
Castleconnell – 140 / 290

66 towns

Bray 160
Greystones 1840
Balbriggan 1070
Drogheda 1850
Dundalk 100
Cavan 2180
Monaghan 760
Sligo 2810
Letterkenny 5570
Castlebar 1330
Sandyford 2870
Wexford 3970
Douglas 840
Carrigaline 1270
Tralee 1950
Ennis 1820
Naas 3900
Kilkenny 3840

Rural – 16,320
Urban – 38,130

Exchanges launching soon:

Drumshanbo 15 March
Hackballscross – 23 March
Killybegs -29 march
Moycullen – 29 March
Wellington Bridge – 5th April
Rathcoole – 5th April
Whitegate – 5th April
Athenry – 5th April
knockcroughery – 5th April

davis27 · 20-03-2017 2:39pm

No engineer came back to me about a rescheduled date, i rang them and they came back and said there are no ports left at the exchange and someone will need to cancel there account with eircom before i can be made active. Some service sell a product thats not available.

Is this port located in one of the green cabinets that then feeds the black boxes on the poles??

rob808 · 20-03-2017 2:59pm

davis27 wrote: »

No engineer came back to me about a rescheduled date, i rang them and they came back and said there are no ports left at the exchange and someone will need to cancel there account with eircom before i can be made active. Some service sell a product thats not available.

Is this port located in one of the green cabinets that then feeds the black boxes on the poles??

It the exchange were the port is the cabinet is for FTTC. They probably have to upgrade the exchange to add more ports, it suck that happen to you hopefully you get sort out soon.

Grumpypants · 20-03-2017 3:05pm

Kinvarra is getting close now. Driving around the town and it looks like the place has been fully passed with fiber cable. Just need to splice boxes etc done now.

Map got updated too, looks like FTTH will start arriving in about 2 weeks

Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is 22 March 2017. Estimated date for first live FTTH with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is 05 Apr.

banjopeter · 20-03-2017 3:10pm

Kinvara (Co. Galway) exchange is listed to go live on the 22nd March - Wednesday.

banjopeter · 20-03-2017 3:12pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

Kinvarra is getting close now. Driving around the town and it looks like the place has been fully passed with fiber cable. Just need to splice boxes etc done now.

Map got updated too, looks like FTTH will start arriving in about 2 weeks

Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is 22 March 2017. Estimated date for first live FTTH with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is 05 Apr.

Where did you get the 5th April date from Grumpy? (have just seen that its on the map!)

Grumpypants · 20-03-2017 3:23pm

banjopeter wrote: »

Where did you get the 5th April date from Grumpy? (have just seen that its on the map!)

on this one http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

On the right hand side if you click the box "Fibre Build Commenced", it puts a dark green icon on the map. Hover over that and it gives the info 22nd March for FTTC, and 5th April now called out for FTTH. Up until this week FTTH just said spring/summer.

That is a positive. Even if it takes a few weeks to get the whole town done it is so close I can almost taste those juicy gb/s speeds :pac:

davis27 · 20-03-2017 3:24pm

rob808 wrote: »

It the exchange were the port is the cabinet is for FTTC. They probably have to upgrade the exchange to add more ports, it suck that happen to you hopefully you get sort out soon.

From what ive seen i cant seem the updating the fttc cabinet anytime soon. Eir are saying they have to take the order before they can check available ports if this is the case why are they selling eir extreme all over my neighbourhood when its not going to be available.

banjopeter · 20-03-2017 3:31pm

Yes, they must have updated it today as it wasn't there earlier. Good news!

Gonzo · 20-03-2017 3:32pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

on this one http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

On the right hand side if you click the box "Fibre Build Commenced", it puts a dark green icon on the map. Hover over that and it gives the info 22nd March for FTTC, and 5th April now called out for FTTH. Up until this week FTTH just said spring/summer.

That is a positive. Even if it takes a few weeks to get the whole town done it is so close I can almost taste those juicy gb/s speeds :pac:

I missed out on the build commenced exchanges

more exchanges coming soon

Kinvara - 5th April
Macroom West - 5th April
Ballylooby - 22 March (FTTC)
Rearcross - 5th April (FTTC)

Gonzo · 20-03-2017 4:12pm

it turns out my area isn't going live till 5th April either so will have to wait another 3 weeks for an install!.

KeRbDoG · 20-03-2017 4:18pm

Just noticed that http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/ has more detail in terms of the roads it follows in my area at least. It now shows entry into some housing estates. Anyone else seeing this?

ratracer · 20-03-2017 4:48pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

on this one http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

On the right hand side if you click the box "Fibre Build Commenced", it puts a dark green icon on the map. Hover over that and it gives the info 22nd March for FTTC, and 5th April now called out for FTTH. Up until this week FTTH just said spring/summer.

That is a positive. Even if it takes a few weeks to get the whole town done it is so close I can almost taste those juicy gb/s speeds :pac:

I think that Kinvara exchange is only going live with FTTC within a 1.5km radius of the exchange for now, and the FTTH rollout won't happen until end of summer ( so probably next year).
J Byrne had posted similar on his FB page a while back.

MBSnr · 20-03-2017 5:09pm

ratracer wrote: »

I think that Kinvara exchange is only going live with FTTC within a 1.5km radius of the exchange for now, and the FTTH rollout won't happen until end of summer ( so probably next year).
J Byrne had posted similar on his FB page a while back.

Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is 22 March 2017. (FTTC)
Estimated date for first live FTTH with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is 05 Apr

banjopeter · 20-03-2017 5:12pm

You might be right, but the map update to day re Kinvara specifically says "FTTH", not FTTC.

davis27 · 20-03-2017 5:42pm

Gonzo wrote: »

it turns out my area isn't going live till 5th April either so will have to wait another 3 weeks for an install!.

Take no notice of the live date, my live date was march 8th but because theres no port available on the cabinet its indefinite. What they might be doing is pre selling and see is there a demand to update the cabinet exchange)

chewed · 20-03-2017 5:47pm

My village says Spring/Summer 2018 (after being pushed out numerous times over the past year). Is there any chance that this date could be pulled in? Or am I being too optimistic?

jacksie66 · 20-03-2017 5:52pm

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pegasus1 · 20-03-2017 5:59pm

davis27 wrote: »

Take no notice of the live date, my live date was march 8th but because theres no port available on the cabinet its indefinite. What they might be doing is pre selling and see is there a demand to update the cabinet exchange)

Each house on a blue line will have a port in the exchange dedicated to that house..they must be confusing ftth with fttc...are you on the blue line or just beyond it?

plodder · 20-03-2017 6:13pm

pegasus1 wrote: »

Each house on a blue line will have a port in the exchange dedicated to that house..they must be confusing ftth with fttc...are you on the blue line or just beyond it?

I think it's more like one physical port for every group on the same strand of fibre. So, there could be up to 32 houses on each port. But, even still, I'd be suspicious that there is confusion between FTTC and FTTH somewhere along the line. It's hard to imagine they are running out of ports that quickly.

davis27 · 20-03-2017 6:41pm

plodder wrote: »

I think it's more like one physical port for every group on the same strand of fibre. So, there could be up to 32 houses on each port. But, even still, I'd be suspicious that there is confusion between FTTC and FTTH somewhere along the line. It's hard to imagine they are running out of ports that quickly.

I would have thought it was fibre from home to spilter black box on pole. One strand back to the green cabinet which is also used for fftc services where fibre goes from there back into main exchange in a town.

My impression was there wasn't enough ports available on the green exchange box to provide fibre to my home and other homes around me and like previous comment that cabinet needs to be updated to provide more ports

banjopeter · 20-03-2017 6:57pm

For anyone wanting to indulge their inner nerd with FTTH technology, there are a host of readable articles here on the ECMAG website -
http://www.ecmag.com/contributing-authors/jim-hayes
Just click the authors name to see all the articles

plodder · 20-03-2017 7:03pm

davis27 wrote: »

I would have thought it was fibre from home to spilter black box on pole. One strand back to the green cabinet which is also used for fftc services where fibre goes from there back into main exchange in a town.

My impression was there wasn't enough ports available on the green exchange box to provide fibre to my home and other homes around me and like previous comment that cabinet needs to be updated to provide more ports

As far as I understand it, FTTH means fibre all the way from the home to the exchange, and completely passive components (like splitters) in between. And it's completely independent of FTTC, which does need a port for each house.

Can't be certain obviously, but If I was in your situation, I'd make sure you are talking to someone who knows their stuff before giving up on it.

ED E · 20-03-2017 8:25pm

davis27 wrote: »

I would have thought it was fibre from home to spilter black box on pole. One strand back to the green cabinet which is also used for fftc services where fibre goes from there back into main exchange in a town.

My impression was there wasn't enough ports available on the green exchange box to provide fibre to my home and other homes around me and like previous comment that cabinet needs to be updated to provide more ports

You're totally mixing up FTTC and FTTH.

This is the FTTH thread, FTTC includes copper last mile and has a port limit per cab.

neasyerac · 20-03-2017 8:29pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

Eir still don't know when broadband in my village is going live. Every other village and town around me has it but nothing for us. And we're just 7 odd miles outside of Limerick city. It's bloody frustrating. I'm in Montpelier Co. Limerick

I'm also waiting for this as I'm across the bridge in o'briens bridge. If's it's worth anything on the eir roll out map it's changed from Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is late 2017 to spring/summer 2017

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-03-2017 11:03pm

The alternative map and spreadsheet have been updated. A few interesting points to note. Three areas went live that had been given no prior due date:

Cootehall (Roscommon)
Dooradoyle (Limerick)
Rosslare Strand (Wexford)

Drumshanbo (Leitrim) is stuck with a due date of the 15th of March.

Portarlington (Laois) was due to get 260 premises but according to the map 460 premises were passed. That may be just a typo though.

As of today I make the total rural premises passed 16610 out of 106340 for a 15.62% completion rate.

jacksie66 · 20-03-2017 11:13pm

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ACLFC7 · 21-03-2017 12:12am

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Portarlington (Laois) was due to get 260 premises but according to the map 460 premises were passed. That may be just a typo though.

Portarlington was also a part of the 66 towns - https://www.eir.ie/opencms/export/sites/default/.content/pdf/IR/news/eircom_Expands_Fibre_to_the_Home_Footprint_map.pdf

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