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European Parliament to Investigate WHO & Swine Flu "Pandemic"

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  • 04-01-2010 3:12am
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    WakeUp
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    European Parliament to investigate WHO & Swine Flu “Pandemic”

    First of all could I just let the Mod’s know that I have read the guidelines for starting new topics on any swine-flu related issues for want of better words and I’m hoping this will be ok.

    This thread is not intended to be a thread about any scientific aspect of either the H1NI virus or the vaccines available.

    Some people believe that the virus is a natural mutation and the vaccine a logical weapon to counter it.

    Some people believe that the virus is manmade and the vaccine/s a concerted effort by main stream Pharma companies to infect people with H1N1 and or profit financially from a manufactured health scare on a world-wide scale.

    On the basis that the Swine flu "Pandemic" is a conspiracy by the Pharma companies to generate massive profits at the expense of people’s health, through mass vaccination regardless of where and how the virus originated, and not wanting to discuss any scientific aspect of either the virus or vaccine, I would like to start this thread.
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    The Council of European member states will launch an inquiry sometime this January to ascertain the extent of Pharmaceutical company influence in the swine-flu outbreak, specifically its influence over the World Health Organisation. The Health committee of the European Union unanimously passed a resolution calling for an inquiry.

    The parliament motion was introduced by Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, former member of the German Bundestag and current chairman of the Health committee of PACE (Parliamentary assembly of the Council of Europe). Wodarg is a medical doctor and epidemiologist who reckons the swine flu “saga” to be “one of the greatest medical scandals of the century”.

    The text of the resolution, states among others,

    “In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "bird-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies.”[2]

    The inquiry will look into the following issue, among others:

    ØThat the WHO declared a “falsified” pandemic in June 2009 on the advice of its group of academic experts, SAGE, many of whose members have documented ties with the major Pharmaceutical companies including GlaxoSmsithKline,
    Roche and Novartis, makers of the swine flu vaccine

    In his official statement to the committee, Wodarg criticised the influence of the Pharmaceutical Industry on Scientists and officials of WHO, stating that it has led to the situation where "unnecessarily millions of healthy people are exposed to the risk of poorly tested vaccines" and that for a flu strain that is "vastly less harmful" than all previous "epidemics".

    The inquiry is to be given “urgent” priority in the general assembly. Maybe now some of the many outstanding questions will be addressed and answered, it will be very interesting to see how this inquiry unfolds.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16667
    http://www.wodarg.de/english/2948146.html


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    uprising
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    Great post, mods this is serious information and should not be suppressed here.


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    grenache
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    I've been waiting for something like this to happen, for some governmental agency or body to stick it to the pharmaceutical companies and WHO and start asking them some testing questions.

    Great post!


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    humanji
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    I assume you saw this question coming a long way off, but is there anything in the mainstream media about it? I can only find info from anti-vaccine sites.

    Also, wasn't the EP part of the group trying to force the vaccine on people? Why would they suddenly try and investigate it? Or would this just be a kind of show investigation, designed to make people think that their fears are being addressed?


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    drkpower
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    uprising wrote: »
    Great post, mods this is serious information and should not be suppressed here.

    Yes, lets not suppress it but perhaps all of you truth-seekers would like to verify it, yes? So, lets look at this 'serious information'.....:rolleyes:

    Funnily enough, the 'Health Committee of the EU Parliament', which according to the OP, has supposedly unanimously passed this resolution does not exist. The Environment, Public Health and Food Safety Committee does exist but there is no reference to this suposed unanimous resolution on its website.

    The European Parliament has no reference to this inquiry on its website.

    The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (which Dr Wodarg claims has already signed and supported his Motion) has no reference to this inquiry on its website.

    There has been no reference to this supposed inquiry in any mainstream media that I am aware of.

    The multitude of websites that have run this story have run the exact same text (as posted above) that they have clearly cut & pasted from one original source.

    Looks like a hoax or at least a gross exageration by Dr Wodarg that all the anti-vax usual suspects have fallen for. So, truth-seekers, I presume you all want to find out the real truth behind this so-called 'inquiry'....? I await your deep investigations into the actual truth of this story.eek.gif


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    Firewalkwithme
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    drkpower wrote: »
    Funnily enough, the 'Health Committee of the EU Parliament', which according to the OP, has supposedly unanimously passed this resolution does not exist. The Environment, Public Health and Food Safety Committee does exist but there is no reference to this suposed unanimous resolution on its website.

    There is a Sub-Committee on Health of the Social, Health and Family Affairs Committee which Wolfgang Wodarg chairs, you can find the link here:

    Health Sub-Committee

    I can't find any reference to a resolution calling for an inquiry on that site though but you could always contact Mr Wodarg if you are interested. His contact details are listed here:

    Wolfgang Wodarg

    Still, I have to wonder why this is being welcomed by the CT community since they are always so eager to discount anything that comes from a 'government' source.


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    uprising
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    drkpower wrote: »
    Yes, lets not suppress it but perhaps all of you truth-seekers would like to verify it, yes? So, lets look at this 'serious information'.....:rolleyes:

    Funnily enough, the 'Health Committee of the EU Parliament', which according to the OP, has supposedly unanimously passed this resolution does not exist. The Environment, Public Health and Food Safety Committee does exist but there is no reference to this suposed unanimous resolution on its website.

    The European Parliament has no reference to this inquiry on its website.

    The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (which Dr Wodarg claims has already signed and supported his Motion) has no reference to this inquiry on its website.

    There has been no reference to this supposed inquiry in any mainstream media that I am aware of.

    The multitude of websites that have run this story have run the exact same text (as posted above) that they have clearly cut & pasted from one original source.

    Looks like a hoax or at least a gross exageration by Dr Wodarg that all the anti-vax usual suspects have fallen for. So, truth-seekers, I presume you all want to find out the real truth behind this so-called 'inquiry'....? I await your deep investigations into the actual truth of this story.eek.gif

    Why are you so lazy?, you can't find it...... so it's a hoax?, maybe if you looked properly you'd find something, typical attitude, that's exactly why you havent a clue about what's going on around you, ignorance, denial and lazyness, always wanting it handed up on a plate for inspection.

    EU to investigate AH1N1 "false pandemic" scandal caused by WHO.
    http://www.bucharestherald.com/health/36-health/8657-eu-to-investigate-who-qfalse-pandemicq-scandal


    "THIS "PANDEMIC" IS ONE OF THE GREATEST MEDICAL SCANDALS OF THE CENTURY"
    http://www.wodarg.de/english/3013320.html
    http://www.information.dk/219754 (original, translate!)



    His own site (english)
    http://www.wodarg.de/english/index.html

    WHO advisors paid by H1N1 vaccine makers profiting on fear?(RT video)
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=349_1259155101

    H1N1 vaccinations under scrutiny (with Dr Damien Downing and HERE on Aljazera)
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0e_1258986592

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlqWFV098xw

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fe_1257632088


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    bikeblues
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    wow ,

    alot of us posted swine flu as a conspiracy ,

    and Guess what !

    IT IS !


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    drkpower
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    uprising wrote: »
    Why are you so lazy?, you can't find it...... so it's a hoax?, maybe if you looked properly you'd find something, typical attitude, that's exactly why you havent a clue about what's going on around you, ignorance, denial and lazyness, always wanting it handed up on a plate for inspection.

    Aside from the 'Bucharest Herald', (the other publications you cite are either Dr Wodarg's own site, dont deal with the issue or are, eh, suspect), no other mainstream media, and most unusually, no European Parliament websites have picked up on this story which, if true, is a pretty massive story. Dont you think that is unusual? Doesnt that give you pause for thought? Ypu like to question unusual occurences - isnt this unusual?

    In any case, I actually would be delighted if the EP investigated this issue, so that the reality can be revealed. I presume you would be happy to abide by its findings?


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    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    drkpower wrote: »
    Aside from the 'Bucharest Herald', (the other publications you cite are either Dr Wodarg's own site or other, eh, suspect sites), no other mainstream media, and most unusually, no European Parliament websites have picked up on this story which, if true, is a pretty massive story. Dont you think that is unusual? Doesnt that give you pause for thought? Ypu like to question unusual occurences - isnt this unusual?

    In any case, I actually would be delighted if the EP investigated this issue, so that the reality can be revealed. I presume you would be happy to abide by its findings?

    I would if it is fair and truthful, Not a whitewash like the hutton enquiry or like the U.S. govt case against blackwater killers last week.......because the prosecuter (US govt) overstepped the mark, the case was thrown out.....how convenient!, or the laugh that was the 9/11 report, I won't even go there. But there is a lot to come out, whether it does or not is a different matter, all avenues should be looked into, all motives sought.

    Oh and take the time to study the links provided for you, don't be put off by the messanger, listen to the message and check the links to Dr Damien Downing who was interviewed on Aljazera, if he was interviewed


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    bonkey
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    uprising wrote: »
    I would if it is fair and truthful, Not a whitewash

    Before any such enquiry started, could you define what would be required for it to be fair and truthful?

    I ask because I often get the impression from various things that it is the conclusions reached which make people decide if something was fair or not. "I agree with the result" == "it was fair", and "I don't agree with the result" == "corrupt whitewash".

    Personally, I think the EU will carry out such an enquiry, even if they haven't carried one out yet.

    On a parallel note, in teh Swiss papers, its been interesting to not the change in tune. Initially, the papers were absolutely scathing of how slowly the Swiss government and system in general were moving. Heads should roll, because approval of some drugs was taking so long, which meant that the vaccination rollout wouldn't be possible before the pandemic hit. Now that the (current) wave has peaked, the media are churning out articles about how the government moved too quickly, and as a result were reckless with taxpayer's money.

    I would expect, that regardless of whether or not they did have a hand in overhyping things, the big pharma companies are going to come under pressure from some governments...if only so that the governments can try and divert some of the media's attention from them (and thus the public's).


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    drkpower
    Registered Users Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    uprising wrote: »
    I would if it is fair and truthful, Not a whitewash like the hutton enquiry or like the U.S. govt case against blackwater killers last week.......because the prosecuter (US govt) overstepped the mark, the case was thrown out.....how convenient!, or the laugh that was the 9/11 report, I won't even go there. But there is a lot to come out, whether it does or not is a different matter, all avenues should be looked into, all motives sought.

    Oh and take the time to study the links provided for you, don't be put off by the messanger, listen to the message and check the links to Dr Damien Downing who was interviewed on Aljazera, if he was interviewed


    Of course, you will decide what is 'fair and truthful', wont you....?! After any Inquiry may be held, if it finds in your favour, it was 'fair and truthful', if it fins against you, it was a 'whitewash'.....:rolleyes: How convenient.....:p

    Ah yes, the comfort of the conspiracy position; you never have to actually put your position on the line, you just shift it (and the conspiracy) depending on the events....!!

    But, in any case, it appears no such Inquiry is to be held unless you believe that a fairly ground-breaking decision by the European Parliament isnt beng reported by themselves or any other mainstream media (with the except, of course, of the Bucharest Herald). Dont you find that unusual though, uprising, that the EP wouldnt even make any press release/pit a notice on their website of their supposed unanimoius decison to hold this Inquiry? You migt go forth and find the truth on his particular quandry rather than believe the unconfirmed reporting of many fringe websites.


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    constance tench
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html


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    Undergod
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    constance tench wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html

    While not what the OP was reporting, or what most of the CTs were claiming, that's kinda what I thought any swine-flu related CT would be.

    But to be honest, that's what happens if you take medical advice from a pharmaceutical company.


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    uprising
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    Yes it seem's there is/was a conspiracy, here's a few more links, the "news" is a little behind us here, or they couldn't ignore it any longer when people start asking questions.

    H1N1 Flu Is a False Pandemic, Health Expert Claims (FOX)
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582749,00.html?mep

    EU to probe pharma over “false pandemic” (Pharma Times)
    http://www.pharmatimes.com/WorldNews/article.aspx?id=17147

    Pandemic puts pharma under scrutiny (Pharm Tech)
    http://blog.pharmtech.com/2010/01/07/pandemic-puts-pharma-under-scrutiny/

    Probe into “false pandemic”

    The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has passed a resolution that calls for an inquiry into the relationship between pharmaceutical companies and official agencies throughout the H1N1 outbreak.
    Wolfgang Wodarg, chairman of the PACE Health Committee, claims that the WHO, in cooperation with some big pharma companies, redefined the term ‘pandemic’.
    http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com/On-your-radar/Globalisation/Zydus-begins-H1N1-trials

    http://news.google.ie/news?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4GGLL_en-GBIE360IE360&q=Wolfgang%20Wodarg&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn


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    thecommander
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    uprising wrote: »
    Yes it seem's there is/was a conspiracy, here's a few more links, the "news" is a little behind us here, or they couldn't ignore it any longer when people start asking questions.

    Thought it was about Mexicans being genetically targeted?


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    Eoghan_84
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    The following motion, which has received virtually press coverage, was submitted to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Strasbourg.

    The sponsors from 11 European member countries represent a cross-section of political parties represented in the Council of Europe. To access the official document click below

    TEXT OF MOTION     (PDF)


    Doc. 12110

    18 December 2009
    Faked Pandemics - a threat for health
    Motion for a recommendation
    presented by Mr Wodarg and others
    This motion has not been discussed in the Assembly and commits only the members who have signed it

    In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies have influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards, to alarm governments worldwide. They have made them squander tight health care resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly exposed millions of healthy people to the risk of unknown side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.
    The "birds-flu“-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu“-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health budgets, but also to the credibility and accountability of important international health agencies. The definition of an alarming pandemic must not be under the influence of drug-sellers.
    The member states of the Council of Europe should ask for immediate investigations on the consequences at national as well as European level.
    Signed 1:
    WODARG Wolfgang, Germany, SOC
    ABURTO BASELGA Fátima, Spain, SOC
    AYVA Lokman, Turkey, EPP/CD
    CONDE BAJÉN Agustín, Spain, EPP/CD
    CZINEGE Imre, Hungary, SOC
    FLYNN Paul, United Kingdom, SOC
    GROZDANOVA Dzhema, Bulgaria, EPP/CD
    HANCOCK Michael, United Kingdom, ALDE
    HUSS Jean, Luxembourg, SOC
    MARQUET Bernard, Monaco, ALDE
    McCAFFERTY Christine, United Kingdom, SOC
    OHLSSON Carina, Sweden, SOC
    ÜNAL Mustafa, Turkey, EPP/CD
    VOLONTE' Luca, Italy, EPP/CD
    1 EPP/CD: Group of the European People’s Party
    SOC: Socialist Group
    ALDE: Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe
    EDG: European Democratic Group
    UEL: Group of the Unified European Left
    NR: not registered in a group

    TEXT OF MOTION     (PDF)



    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16911


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    drkpower
    Registered Users Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    Eoghan_84 wrote: »
    The following motion, which has received virtually press coverage, was submitted to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Strasbourg.
    This motion has not been discussed in the Assembly and commits only the members who have signed it [/font]

    What I have been unable to ascertain is what does this mean? Certain sites have suggested that a wholescale investigation is to be launched by the EU but the text you have pointed to suggests that it is far more limited in its effect than that. It seems that, at most, the consequences of this is that the possibility of an investigation will be debated by the EP in late January. If anyone has a more enlightened (and realistic) analysis, I would welcome it.


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    namloc1980
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    I think it's important to note that the PACE (Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe) is not the same as the European Parliament. They are completely different bodies. In fact PACE is not even a part of the EU. It is in the Council of Europe, which is a totally seperate organisation to the European Union.

    This distinction should be made clear in the thread title as it is misleading.


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    uprising
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    Strasbourg, 12.01.2010 – “False pandemics: a threat to health” will be one of the major themes of the next plenary session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), to be held in Strasbourg from 25 to 29 January. The PACE Social Affairs Committee has proposed the holding of an urgent debate on this subject. If the Assembly agrees when it adopts its agenda on the opening day, the debate is likely to be held on the morning of Thursday 28 January.

    The committee will be holding a closed hearing on the same subject on Tuesday 26 January at 8.30 am, attended by representatives of the World Health Organisation (WHO), the European pharmaceutical industry and experts on the subject.

    http://assembly.coe.int/ASP/NewsManager/EMB_NewsManagerView.asp?ID=5175&L=2

    Closed hearing?, I smell a fukking "brush it under the carpet" coming on, a game of charades, what will be said that the general public should not be entitled to hear?, what is there to hide?, after all it was Joe public who got these great life saving toxins injected into them.
    Will people be allowed sue for adverse reactions to a fukking experimental cocktail of sh1t that they were brainwashed into getting, that was not needed, that may cause all sorts of illness's in the future, once again the sheep have been led to a mock slaughter.


    Dec. 22 (Bloomberg) -- At least 60 million Americans have received the swine flu vaccine
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLU1SHriIVyI&pos=9

    The new H1N1 virus, which has targeted children and younger adults, has so far resulted in fewer deaths than attributed to seasonal strains, which kills mostly the frail elderly.
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-12/who-to-review-swine-flu-response-amid-false-pandemics-debate.html

    Ohh seems it does kill less people than normal seasonal flu, but us people who claimed that a few months ago here were ridiculed.

    It's a fukking joke, the hype, the bullsh1t, the scaremongering.
    article-0-04CF8A99000005DC-293_468x312.jpg

    After this awful fiasco over swine flu, we should never believe the State scare machine again


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1242479/CHRISTOPHER-BOOKER-After-awful-fiasco-swine-flu-believe-State-scare-machine-again.html#ixzz0cSrAF56Q


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    And it wasn't that long ago that some users here were telling us that swine flu was going to wipe out humanity. Strange how things change.


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    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    humanji wrote: »
    And it wasn't that long ago that some users here were telling us that swine flu was going to wipe out humanity. Strange how things change.

    Who are these "some users"?, it certainly wasn't me, I was hoping to be infected to prove it was no worse than any other flu if you remember correctly, go check a few of the locked threads and see what's what.

    Edit:
    And I also stressed that "if" mandatory vaccinations were introduced I die before I'd allow anybody inject my children with this cocktail of crap.
    Actually can the locked threads be reopened, since it was good medical advice urging others not to get the jab, the storm has passed, unlock the other threads.


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    Run_to_da_hills
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    uprising wrote: »
    And I also stressed that "if" mandatory vaccinations were introduced I die before I'd allow anybody inject my children with this cocktail of crap.
    Actually can the locked threads be reopened, since it was good medical advice urging others not to get the jab, the storm has passed, unlock the other threads.
    +1 and threads in other forums on this topic that had some valid points.


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    uprising wrote: »
    Who are these "some users"?, it certainly wasn't me, I was hoping to be infected to prove it was no worse than any other flu if you remember correctly, go check a few of the locked threads and see what's what.

    Edit:
    And I also stressed that "if" mandatory vaccinations were introduced I die before I'd allow anybody inject my children with this cocktail of crap.
    Actually can the locked threads be reopened, since it was good medical advice urging others not to get the jab, the storm has passed, unlock the other threads.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of anything. I meant there were users on this forum who kept changing what the conspiracy was at the blink of an eye. It's kind of funny to think of the progression.

    There were quite a few users who claimed at first it was designed to kill the Mexicans and then they moved the goal posts to say it was designed to kill everyone and only a select few wouldn't die form it because they'd take a different vaccine that actually worked. Then it was the vaccine that was designed to kill everyone. Then the vaccine was to be forced on everyone. And now it's just a case of corporate greed.

    Also, it wasn't good medical advice to urge people not to get the vaccine. And no, we won't be opening any of those threads as they give medical advice. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad, you don't do that on this forum.


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    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    Some more links exposing what the conspiracy nuts were saying all along!
    I hope "some users here" can finally accept they were scammed, and what's still not known is if the "vaccine", the untested vaccine will have any long term affects considering the sh1t that was put into this cocktail "to save us".
    Some users here should take a lesson from the nuts here, we weren't wrong to question and examine motive.

    Can I quote here from locked threads or will I be banned for that?, also this site was complicit in the whole scam.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQN1to3C2U


    Swine flu caused madness
    Well it seems we've all been suckered by the swine flu hysteria. Surprise, surprise!
    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/gail-walker/swine-flu-caused-madness-14632727.html#ixzz0cULMmEcO

    Mexican flu “largest medical scandal of 21st century” 13 Jan 2010
    http://www.allaboutfeed.net/news/mexican-flu-%E2%80%9Clargest-medical-scandal-of-21st-century%E2%80%9D-4007.html

    Netherlands tries to sell excess flu vaccine
    http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/01/netherlands_tries_to_sell_exce.php

    And the fukking scaremongering continues
    Health officials make renewed push on swine flu vaccine
    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/health/2010/01/swine_flu_vaccine_and_third_wa.html


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    bonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    humanji wrote: »
    Also, it wasn't good medical advice to urge people not to get the vaccine. And no, we won't be opening any of those threads as they give medical advice. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad, you don't do that on this forum.

    As you say...its not a question of whether or not its good or bad advice.

    There's a boards-wide guideline about medical advice, and we will hold to that in this forum.


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    uprising wrote: »
    Some more links exposing what the conspiracy nuts were saying all along!
    I hope "some users here" can finally accept they were scammed, and what's still not known is if the "vaccine", the untested vaccine will have any long term affects considering the sh1t that was put into this cocktail "to save us".
    Some users here should take a lesson from the nuts here, we weren't wrong to question and examine motive.

    The vaccine has not been proven to be dangerous. The pharmacutical companies have not been proven to have been behind everything. The Swine Flu has not been proven to have been a hoax. Maybe you should think about that instead of jumping on a bandwagon?

    Nobody ever said you were wrong to question and examine motives, but you're wrong to state things as fact simply because you feel they are. A lot of the conspiracies that appeared since the beginning of the outbreak have fallen to the wayside. Can you really be sure that the latest one won't do the same? You've no proof at all. You're just taking the word of someone you don't know. Why don't you question them and their motives?
    uprising wrote: »
    Can I quote here from locked threads or will I be banned for that?,

    You can quote as long as it's not medical advice, not breaking the charter and keep this thread in mind.
    uprising wrote: »
    also this site was complicit in the whole scam.

    You want to elaborate on that? Because it's a hell of a claim.
    uprising wrote: »
    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/gail-walker/swine-flu-caused-madness-14632727.html#ixzz0cULMmEcO

    It's an opinion piece. Would you give it the same amount of creedence if it said the opposite of what you believe?
    uprising wrote: »
    http://www.allaboutfeed.net/news/mexican-flu-%E2%80%9Clargest-medical-scandal-of-21st-century%E2%80%9D-4007.html

    An anti-pharmacutical website that's against pharmacuticals? Well I never.
    uprising wrote: »
    http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/01/netherlands_tries_to_sell_exce.php

    Not sure what that's supposed to prove, other than when you have too much of something, it's an idea to sell of surplus to those who want to buy it.
    uprising wrote: »

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/health/2010/01/swine_flu_vaccine_and_third_wa.html

    And that's pointing out that the flu hasn't fully gone away (which it hasn't) and that it could come back with a bang (which it could), so if you want to get the vaccine it's available.

    Scaremongering would be saying things like the vaccine is untested, will kill you, that it's all a conspiracy against you. That sort of thing.


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    bonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    uprising wrote: »
    Can I quote here from locked threads or will I be banned for that?,

    You can quote stuff if you like. If what you quote means your new posts violates the rules, you'll be sanctioned for it. If what you post doesn't break the rules, you're fine.

    So, a quote from a locked thread about how someone thought the whole thing was a scam would probably be fine. A quote containing medical advice would not.
    also this site was complicit in the whole scam.
    From the charter:


    Snide remarks and bitching will not be tolerated, nor will accusations thrown at other members of the Boards.ie community


    Given that its unlikely you're suggesting that the hardware and software which form this site were complicit, it it hard to see how you're doing anything other than making accusations about other members of the community.


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    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    thecommander wrote: »
    Thought it was about Mexicans being genetically targeted?

    You quoted me, then wrote this, are you trying to imply that I ever said it was about mexicans being targeted, if you are can you please quote me where I said that.

    I think theres a lot that has been said on this "hoax" and maybe we can backtrack and see who said what, who was fooled and who was not, the people who were claimed it was a hoax from the start were right, the "yes men" were the one's fooled, they were the one's with science on their side, now can they accept they were fooled.


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    bonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    humanji wrote: »
    You want to elaborate on that? Because it's a hell of a claim.

    As per my previous post, I'd suggest that uprising not elaborate on that.


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    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    bonkey wrote: »
    You can quote stuff if you like. If what you quote means your new posts violates the rules, you'll be sanctioned for it. If what you post doesn't break the rules, you're fine.

    So, a quote from a locked thread about how someone thought the whole thing was a scam would probably be fine. A quote containing medical advice would not.


    From the charter:


    Snide remarks and bitching will not be tolerated, nor will accusations thrown at other members of the Boards.ie community


    Given that its unlikely you're suggesting that the hardware and software which form this site were complicit, it it hard to see how you're doing anything other than making accusations about other members of the community.

    Ok thanks for clearing that up concerning quotes, theres lots of things (not medical advice) that should be brought back from the dead.

    I was suggesting that when anybody even hinted that this swine flu was a scam, it was ridiculed, laughed at, and locked, leaving no way for people to respond to accusations.

    It wasn't a snide remark.


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