I found Money

MugMugs · 27-02-2012 2:33pm

four18 wrote: »

Finding is not theiving, robbing is

So if you "find" a car with the keys in it and drive away with it then it's yours and you've not broken any laws ?

44leto · 27-02-2012 2:33pm

four18 wrote: »

Finding is not theiving, robbing is

Ehhh no,, legally finding and keeping is stealing and you can be done for it.

If you hand it up and it is not claimed in a year and a day then it is returned to you.

swimming in a sea · 27-02-2012 2:33pm

COYW wrote: »

If you are not happy giving it to a Garda then why don't you give it to charity?

charity! to help pay for the pension of their CEO, ya right they're as big a bunch of crooks as the filth....

he should look to find the owner himself or just spend it, no need for a third party

token101 · 27-02-2012 2:34pm

Biggins wrote: »

Holding onto something that you know is not yours, I believe is still a crime in this country - no matter how you got the item.

Sure they might have left it there for you. It might be Mario Balotelli just leaving random envelopes around the place. You wouldn't know like.

TheZohanS · 27-02-2012 2:34pm

four18 wrote: »

I am keeping it, What would you suggest ? Garda station ? Not paying for a garda to go to coppers tonight. Would any of you pocket it ? be honest !

Lol, a thread about beating a puppy would have been better. Amateur.

dulpit · 27-02-2012 2:35pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Was the name Bertie on the envelope?

He said a white envelope, not brown... :pac:

four18 wrote: »

Jaysus Ireland is still Holy. Still keeping it. Would nobody else keep it ? I would love a peep inside your souls.......

Decent != holy.

At the very least I would have thought you'd ask around in locality... For shame OP, for shame...

Chuck Stone · 27-02-2012 2:36pm

Not even a PAEDOPHILE would do that

Biggins · 27-02-2012 2:36pm

By the way, where was it found?
If it was on a main city high-street, there is a somewhat small chance that the street is covered by CCTV?
A quick check by Gardi when someone comes in and reports the loss in hope it was handed in (with the approx time), and there's a small chance (however small) that someday Karma will come back to grab you!

Rocky_Dennis · 27-02-2012 2:37pm

I think you know what you're doing is wrong and you came here hoping for a few people to tell you they would keep it too, that way you wouldn't feel as guilty.

Would you not even try to make some bit of effort to find the owner? At least if you made an effort to find the person, you could spend the money in peace if you couldn't find the owner.

Tzetze · 27-02-2012 2:37pm

I was collecting JSA from the post office a couple of weeks ago, and handed her €2 so she could give me my payment in all notes. Later that day when I was lodging it into the bank the teller told me that I'd an extra €10 and asked if I wanted to lodge it all. The lady in the post office had given me €10 too much. I went back the next day and handed it back to the same lady. She had realised her mistake soon after I'd left the previous day and was very grateful at my returning it.

To further rebutt the OP's opinion of a typical AH lurker; I'm currently back living with my folks. I buy all my own food, do all my own cooking, washing, ironing. I help with cleaning the house, mow the lawns and hand up considerably more than my share of the bills.

OP I hope you will reconsider handing the money into the guards. Someone somewhere is having a very stressful time because of losing that cash.

CL7 · 27-02-2012 2:39pm

So you just started a thread here looking for attention. Nobody cares op. People are just replying because they're bored at work. Now feck off, go live your sad life and spend your stolen money.

Anyone · 27-02-2012 2:40pm

SnoogyDoogy wrote: »

So you just started a thread here looking for attention. Nobody cares op. People are just repling because they're bored at work. Now feck and and go live your sad life and spend the money you just stole.

Haha I am bored in work! How did you know?

Biggins · 27-02-2012 2:41pm

My dad once years ago lost a serious amount of wages that was in his back pocket.
It was his own fault for losing it and he knew it. Times was hard at the time and all I remember even now is that life in the home was pure hell for weeks afterwards as my ma struggled to try and find replacement money to get food and see us ok for school. My dad felt terrible for months afterwards.
I honestly would not wish a similar situation on anyone.

dulpit · 27-02-2012 2:41pm

To add to this debate of decency/etc, 2 little stories:

1: I was at cinema a while back with the GF. I thought she had paid, she thought I had paid, and the dude gave us change as if we had paid with a €20 (it was manic busy at the time). We both went back to tell the dude and pay, we both would not have been able to enjoy it.

2: I was in IKEA on Saturday, shopping for my sister. Was buying a bunch of things, the guy scanned the same box twice, thinking the one below it was the same price. There was actually a substantial price difference between the 2 (about €50), so I pointed it out straight away. When I told my sister (single mother, 2 kids) she was happy - right thing to do and all that.

I don't think I'm anything special, I just think that most people in same situations as above would have done the same thing... Just saying...

44leto · 27-02-2012 2:43pm

300 in a white envelope suggests to me that the victim had just withdrawn the money from an acc and not a cashsave and on a Monday so it was needed urgently for something.

But then again who knows. It could be drug money, but if it was they would never reclaim it.

sf80 · 27-02-2012 2:43pm

Hand it in to a Garda station near where you found it. It's not yours, you are dishonest if you keep it, whatever your excuse.

Ask the Garda you give it to for a receipt for it, and ask them how long they will wait for it to be claimed. Check back with them when the time expires. I think you will probably get it back if no one claims it (maybe after a year or something).

prinz · 27-02-2012 2:45pm

I'd hand it in. I've been at the receiving end of decency like when I lost something valuable and the finder went to a good deal of trouble to track me down that so it's my duty to pay it on so to speak.

Anyone · 27-02-2012 2:45pm

As an aside, look what this recession has done to us. Discussing €300. Remember when we were all loaded? You would have seen a thread like this back then.....ahh I miss those days. Feckin politicians ruined it though...

biko · 27-02-2012 2:45pm

Keep it if you have to OP but don't go saying "Sure the Gardai would just steal it anyway".
You don't know that and you just use as some made up excuse to hold on to the money.
Don't assume everyone is like you and just keep what they find, plenty of honest citizens and garda for that matter.

Fran1985 · 27-02-2012 2:46pm

For all those saying someone somewhere has lost this and needs it to pay bills, what if it the envelope was Sean Fitzpatrick's envelope? or in deed Berties? or heaven forbid, a builder!!! maybe they'd just been to the bank and were heading out to buy a bottle of champers for lunch (or something extravagant like that). What if it was their envelope?
Granted chances are slim, but my point is, it may not be someone who's on the bread line that lost this money.

For what its worth, a couple of shop window notice's wouldn't go a stray. Give it 6-8 weeks, then claim finders-keepers

prinz · 27-02-2012 2:47pm

biko wrote: »

Keep it if you have to OP but don't go saying "Sure the Gardai would just steal it anyway".
You don't know that and you just use as some made up excuse to hold on to the money. Don't assume everyone is like you and just keep what they find, plenty of honest citizens and garda for that matter.

+1, the general protocol anyway is if you hand in lost property you can leave your name and contact details. If the gardaí can't track down the rightful owner the OP may get his cash in the end guilt-free knowing they tried. If you don't claim it again it goes to charity.

Rocky_Dennis · 27-02-2012 2:48pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

For all those saying someone somewhere has lost this and needs it to pay bills, what if it the envelope was Sean Fitzpatrick's envelope? or in deed Berties? or heaven forbid, a builder!!! maybe they'd just been to the bank and were heading out to buy a bottle of champers for lunch (or something extravagant like that). What if it was their envelope?
Granted chances are slim, but my point is, it may not be someone who's on the bread line that lost this money.

For what its worth, a couple of shop window notice's wouldn't go a stray. Give it 6-8 weeks, then claim finders-keepers

It shouldn't matter who owns the money, the OP doesn't and should try and find the owner, no?

Defiler Of The Coffin · 27-02-2012 2:49pm

Karma schmarma - keep the money, buy yourself an extravagant duffle jacket - you know you deserve it.

Bigtalker · 27-02-2012 2:49pm

I found 300 on Grafton Street when I was 18 (10 years ago) and thought that it was probably some one's last bit of money in the world and walked around to Pearse Street Garda station and handed it in. They told me if I came back in a year and a day and no one had claimed it I could keep it. Being a poor 19 year old I did exactly that. I went to the station and the Garda on duty looked up the book to find on that date no sum of money had been recorded as found and they couldnt help me!

If I found money again I would probably give it to a charity

Biggins · 27-02-2012 2:49pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

For all those saying someone somewhere has lost this and needs it to pay bills, what if it the envelope was Sean Fitzpatrick's envelope? or in deed Berties? or heaven forbid, a builder!!! maybe they'd just been to the bank and were heading out to buy a bottle of champers for lunch (or something extravagant like that). What if it was their envelope?

...Then IF that situation was the case and all those conditions applied, they could afford to lose it and the finder gets to keep it eventually as its handed back to them after a legal period of time by the Gardi.
Having got a receipt by the way.

Fran1985 · 27-02-2012 2:50pm

Andrewh1984 wrote: »

It shouldn't matter who owns the money, the OP doesn't and should try and find the owner, no?

you'll see just under the line you highlighted in my post, that's what i said

Chuck Stone · 27-02-2012 2:50pm

I found found ~€35 worth of Golden discs vouchers a few years ago and I couldn't spend it because I kept imagining some poor old lady buying them for her disabled grandson or some other horrible guilt inducing image.

So I put an advert in the Evening Echo saying 'Golden discs vouchers found near Wilton S.C. on xx/xx/xx.'

Got a couple of calls from chancers who got the amount wrong. Then one day just as I was about to give up I got a call and it was....

I'm never telling the incredible ending to this story.

44leto · 27-02-2012 2:51pm

token101 wrote: »

The Gardaí? F*** that! That'll never see the owner again, but you'll be told it will. I'd sooner give it to SVP or the likes if you feel a bit guilty. Be better than some cop to spend on doughnuts and coffee.

Bollox its all very professional and signed for, there is no-way they could pilfer it.

I know a taximan who was driving behind a truck when 2 bags fell off. It was moss peat and him been a Gardiner went to help himself, then the Blue lights flashed behind him.

So he said "I was just putting them in my boot to bring to the gardai station", which he did, then a year and a day he got a letter to pick them up.

He said the place was a real alladins cave full of everything you could imagine and all recovered but unclaimed stolen goods, which eventually get auctioned.

Rocky_Dennis · 27-02-2012 2:53pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

you'll see just under the line you highlighted in my post, that's what i said

Are you not insinuating that if Bertie, Sean Fitzpatrick or a builder owned the money, the OP should keep it

heavyballs · 27-02-2012 2:56pm

Griffin1988 wrote: »

Someone probably just got a loan from the Credit Union as they are struggling to pay bills.

Karma will catch up with you anyway OP. Maybe in the form of a bus! :rolleyes:

Karma me bollix,don't beleive in that ****e

token56 · 27-02-2012 3:00pm

I'd hand it in. I remember I once found 50 euro on the platform after getting off a train at Connolly station. It was commuter hour in the morning and it probably fell out of someone's pocket/wallet when getting out their ticket. Now its not a huge amount of money and I had zero chance of identifying who had dropped it as everybody around was getting on with exiting the station so nobody saw me pick it up. I could easily have kept it but I found a member of staff and handed it in. I would be pretty sure the person who dropped it never got it back and the member of staff I gave it to could easily just have it kept for themselves and told nobody. I knew this handing it over but I gave it in anyway just in case that person did come back looking for it, and needed it for something important. With 300 euro I would certainly make some sort of effort to find the rightful owner.

If it was something smaller like 5 or 10 I probably would have put it in some charity box. My attitude is its not mine to keep and I'm no worse off than I was before I found it by not keeping it.

Fran1985 · 27-02-2012 3:00pm

Andrewh1984 wrote: »

Are you not insinuating that if Bertie, Sean Fitzpatrick or a builder owned the money, the OP should keep it

no my point was that everyone's arguement so far has been that someone is at home crying and starving, and sitting in the dark with no electricity, possibly going to be evicted...etc cos the OP was keeping the money.
No-one here knows who owns the money and for all we know, it could be any of the above. Just wanted to know if people would feel the same about the OP keeping it, if it was seanie, bertie or a builder. Thats all. But as i said, OP wont know until he goes looking to see who owns it, with a few shop notices.

Rocky_Dennis · 27-02-2012 3:03pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

no my point was that everyone's arguement so far has been that someone is at home crying and starving, and sitting in the dark with no electricity, possibly going to be evicted...etc cos the OP was keeping the money.
No-one here knows who owns the money and for all we know, it could be any of the above. Just wanted to know if people would feel the same about the OP keeping it, if it was seanie, bertie or a builder. Thats all. But as i said, OP wont know until he goes looking to see who owns it, with a few shop notices.

Apologies

fonecrusher1 · 27-02-2012 3:04pm

Fcuking RACIST!:mad:

MidlandsM · 27-02-2012 3:05pm

So OP, what are you going to do with it?

Piss it?
Snort it?

du Maurier · 27-02-2012 3:05pm

heavyballs wrote: »

Karma me bollix,don't beleive in that ****e

Maybe you should, what with those irregular balls you possess:pac:

Penn · 27-02-2012 3:06pm

four18 wrote: »

I am keeping it, What would you suggest ? Garda station ? Not paying for a garda to go to coppers tonight. Would any of you pocket it ? be honest !

I'd go to the gardai, tell them I found the money (how much, what type of envelope, whereabouts I found it), and if anyone came looking for it, give them my phone number and I'd give it to them. That way, I can be sure that the person who rings me genuinely lost their money, and I can be as sure as possible that the money was returned to them. Did the same thing twice before, once with a wallet and once with car keys (beside the car they belonged to)

€300 is a lot. Keeping €40-€50, maybe. But €300 is quite a bit to someone.

liamygunner29 · 27-02-2012 3:11pm

The strangest thing about any of this is the weird chip the OP has on his shoulder over people living at home!

Gmol · 27-02-2012 3:16pm

alphabeat wrote: »

i found money like this once , and put up notices in shops near where it was found .
not saying how much was in it

3 weeks later a young woman called , and knew exaclty how much was in it to the penny. it was her wages from shop she worked in .

i was smashed and really needed the money badly .

but she got it back , and i felt good .

if you keep it without tryin - karma will get ya , 100% certain.

Something similiar happened to me, I was absolitley skint and got on a bus & found a wallet with between 40-70 quid on the floor (can't exactly remember how much ) so I checked with people on the bus to see if it was theirs & then handed it in to the bus driver.

The next week sat nearly in the same spot and found another wallet with 40 quid. I was thinking wtf someone is taking the p**s I gave that in to the bus driver even though I really could have done with that money.

blaze1 · 27-02-2012 3:17pm

I found 300 on the aerdart once as it was leaving the airport.

Nothing else in the purse someone had a crappy holiday.

I left my number with the driver after didnt hear anything after a couple of weeks so it was spent on bills.

The King of Moo · 27-02-2012 3:18pm

I've never seen such a pre-emptively defensive original post! Smacks of a guilty conscience...

If you do keep it OP, beware that it will do you no good.
I don't mean that karma will get you back. I don't believe in karma.

No. You'll buy lots of crisps and sweets. Maybe even a few Easter Eggs, and eat them before Easter. Why not? You can afford it now.

But you won't really enjoy them. Not as much as you'd like. There'll always be a bitter aftertaste, and that's the result of your guilty conscience.

At first, you'll shrug off the mild feelings of guilt, laugh them away!

But they'll come back, stronger every time.
You'll find yourself lying awake at night. Every creak of a floorboard will be the sound of a poor unfortunate, shuffling to your bedroom door to claim back the money you took from them.
Every small sliver of light the blinds let through will be the glint in a hideous vulture eye, watching you, waiting eternally for the money you took.
When you can't sleep, and find yourself tossing and turning, you'll hear not the rustling of the sheets, but the sound of six €50 euro notes rubbing together, always following you. Even when you lie still, you'll still hear that sound in the minutest movement, in the slightest breath of air, always the rustling, rustling of those six notes, those simple six little pieces of paper rustling together, "why it's just paper and nothing more! There's no wrong in my taking just six little rustling pieces of paper!" you'll cry, but still the sound will follow you, the rustling sound creeping along the floor, on the bed, in your mind until you cry out "IT'S THE RUSTLING OF THOSE HIDEOUS €50 EURO NOTES!!" and collapse into a permanent stupor, trapped in a grim mania, hearing only the rustling, rustling...

Logical Fallacy · 27-02-2012 3:18pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

no my point was that everyone's arguement so far has been that someone is at home crying and starving, and sitting in the dark with no electricity, possibly going to be evicted...etc cos the OP was keeping the money.
No-one here knows who owns the money and for all we know, it could be any of the above. Just wanted to know if people would feel the same about the OP keeping it, if it was seanie, bertie or a builder. Thats all. But as i said, OP wont know until he goes looking to see who owns it, with a few shop notices.

Indeed. It could be a drug dealers money, but that wouldn't suit the auld early AH morality party.

Give it till after lunch when the thread has morphed a bit.

Sunnyisland · 27-02-2012 3:19pm

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I found found ~€35 worth of Golden discs vouchers a few years ago and I couldn't spend it because I kept imagining some poor old lady buying them for her disabled grandson or some other horrible guilt inducing image.

So I put an advert in the Evening Echo saying 'Golden discs vouchers found near Wilton S.C. on xx/xx/xx.'

Got a couple of calls from chancers who got the amount wrong. Then one day just as I was about to give up I got a call and it was....

I'm never telling the incredible ending to this story.

Ah come on chuck, it was your wife to be wasent it

Broads.ie · 27-02-2012 3:20pm

LoL @ the people talking about karma. They're probably religious too I guess.

Feck it, let's turn this into an anti-christian thread.

Casillas · 27-02-2012 3:22pm

If I was stone broke and couldnt pay rent Id probaly keep it, if I was flush Id give it in. Its either a miracle or a test. Dwell on that..

Shane.C · 27-02-2012 3:23pm

It's annoying how the OP has blatant disregard for the morals of An Gardai Siochana, especially the idea of them only taking it anyways!

I found myself in a similar situation a few months ago.

I found an iPod touch in Eyre Square, used my usb connection to log onto my laptop, checked user information, got the email address, emailed the owner and within a day or two she got it back and was delighted.

inforfun · 27-02-2012 3:26pm

All those people who say they would bring it to the Gardai..... what would be the minimum amount you ld bring there if you found it?

€10/€20?

€10 could mean as much to someone as €300 does to another.

That said, i cant blame the OP for keeping the 300.
People should just take better care of their stuff.

forevertwisted · 27-02-2012 3:33pm

Remember a few years back seeing a woman come out of Thomas Cook and the holiday money she must have just got changed fell out of her bag, must have been £1000. Moral dilemma as no-one else saw it, paused for a few moments trying to decide what to do (yes im a bad person for not immediatly giving it back), briefly after I chased her down and re-united her with her money. Not so much as a thanks or a few quid for the kind deed, as a 16 year old that was a lot of money! It felt good doing the right thing but you would think at least some gratitude wouldnt have gone amiss. Maybe I should write this in the stingy thread?

Old Perry · 27-02-2012 3:36pm

Heard something similar recently, a fella found a ring i think worth a fair bit of cash, handed it in. What ever radio station i heard it on said that there was a standard recovery time and after that the lost goods were free to be claimed by the finder..the waiting time wasn even that long, a couple of months iirc

More then likely that envelope meant somethin important to whomever lost it, if i wasn absolutely stone broke and in debt id hand it in making sure theres a procedure in place whereby if i dont know the actual owner has gotten their money back then its all mine.

Syllabus · 27-02-2012 3:39pm

really just cements in my mind the type of site this place is - full of aul ones and holy molys

@OP - I'd have kept the money and said nowt on the net about it.

@all the goody two shoes - i'd have enjoyed it more cos it wasnt my money

I found Money

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