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2012 WWE Hall of fame

  • 02-01-2012 1:43am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭


    So who is the good money on going in this year?

    Macho man?
    Rock?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can definitely see Macho Man going in this year with it being in Florida.

    They should have inducted him in long ago when he was still alive :(

    Mick Foley maybe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    macho man and I'm guessing edge.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    Edge,
    Randy Savage,
    Kevin Nash perhaps?


    I dont think Rock will go in this year, next year I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭johnciall


    I'd say they may hold off till 2013 for Edge since rumours are it's in Toronto


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    If thats the case, then it will be Rock this year id say. I cant imagine they would have 2 recent wrestlers getting inducted in one year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    William Regal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Alberto Del Rio's Uncle Mil Mascaras is going to be inducted, that's been confirmed. ADR will most likely induct him, hopefully with Ricardo Rodriguez doing the introduction!

    I did ask about this in the Questions forum as I had only read it on Wiki, but I've only just found out that it's confirmed on wwe.com -


    Mil Mascaras to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame

    MEXICO CITY - Triple H has announced that Mil Mascaras will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April! The announcement was made in Mil Mascaras' native country in front of the WWE Universe in Mexico City Sunday night.


    Mil Mascaras was the first masked luchador to compete in Madison Square Garden. The Mexican squared circle legend also competed in the 1997 Royal Rumble.


    Stay tuned to WWE.com for complete coverage of Mil Mascaras' induction into the WWE Hall of Fame.


    http://www.wwe.com/inside/mil-mascaras-hall-of-fame-announcement


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Alberto Del Rio's Uncle Mil Mascaras is going to be inducted, that's been confirmed. ADR will most likely induct him, hopefully with Ricardo Rodriguez doing the introduction!

    I did ask about this in the Questions forum as I had only read it on Wiki, but I've only just found out that it's confirmed on wwe.com -


    Mil Mascaras to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame

    MEXICO CITY - Triple H has announced that Mil Mascaras will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April! The announcement was made in Mil Mascaras' native country in front of the WWE Universe in Mexico City Sunday night.


    Mil Mascaras was the first masked luchador to compete in Madison Square Garden. The Mexican squared circle legend also competed in the 1997 Royal Rumble.


    Stay tuned to WWE.com for complete coverage of Mil Mascaras' induction into the WWE Hall of Fame.


    http://www.wwe.com/inside/mil-mascaras-hall-of-fame-announcement

    Thats the only thing I remember him from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Doubt Savage will be ever inducted after his brother said that Randy would never be allowed to be inducted unless he was going in with his father and brother and I can't see that happening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Crazy thing was, Mascaras was in his mid-50's when he was in the royal rumble back in 97. He moved incredibly well for a man his age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Crazy thing was, Mascaras was in his mid-50's when he was in the royal rumble back in 97. He moved incredibly well for a man his age.

    That's my pre-Raw viewing sorted for tonight then, 97 Rumble :)

    Think I read somewhere that WWE want to enter the Guinness Book of Records as most masks being worn in the same place, wonder if they will ask Mascaras to help promote that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Crazy thing was, Mascaras was in his mid-50's when he was in the royal rumble back in 97. He moved incredibly well for a man his age.

    Well he never bumped


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    rovert wrote: »
    Well he never bumped

    I'm sure the world will stop turning. The guy hit a cross-body from the top rope to the outside. Show me one other 54 year old man who has done that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I'm sure the world will stop turning. The guy hit a cross-body from the top rope to the outside. Show me one other 54 year old man who has done that.

    Most luchadores can. They tumble rather than take as many flat back bumps as the Americans do which helps their longevity. Mil never bumped when he didnt need to. Mil went against script and eliminated himself as he didn't want to do the job. That dive wasnt primarily to entertain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I can definitely see Macho Man going in this year with it being in Florida.

    They should have inducted him in long ago when he was still alive :(

    Mick Foley maybe?

    Yes I was thinking Macho Man and Mick Foley also

    Is it too soon for Rock or Taker?

    Rick Rude seems to be mentioned on a few other sites as a possible


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭baldstuffandy


    JBL might induct Mil Mascaras :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Macho Man
    The Rock
    Arn Anderson
    Horsemen maybe??

    Maybe one or two people who were part of championship wrestling from Florida??

    Just a few guesses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    I'd love to see Vader get in the HOF after seeing him put in WWE 12. They'll have to put in a big name so maybe Edge, Foley or The Rock will head the nominies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    Id Like to see Randy Savage and Owen Hart. Both wrestlers should have been inducted a long time ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Id Like to see Randy Savage and Owen Hart. Both wrestlers should have been inducted a long time ago.

    Owen Hart will never be inducted, his widow Martha will never let it happen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Owen Hart will never be inducted, his widow Martha will never let it happen
    glenjamin wrote: »
    Doubt Savage will be ever inducted after his brother said that Randy would never be allowed to be inducted unless he was going in with his father and brother and I can't see that happening.

    Why would Vince need anybodies permission to induct someone into HIS Hall of Fame?

    He may not induct them as a mark of respect for Martha Hart's / Lanny Poffo's wishes, but he surely doesn't need any sort of legal permission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Lorri_L


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Why would Vince need anybodies permission to induct someone into HIS Hall of Fame?

    He may not induct them as a mark of respect for Martha Hart's / Lanny Poffo's wishes, but he surely doesn't need any sort of legal permission.

    I'd presume the use of his name is somehow tied to his estate, which would belong to his wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Why would Vince need anybodies permission to induct someone into HIS Hall of Fame?

    Like you said, out of respect it makes sense not to induct someone into your Hall of Fame when his widow holds you responsible for her husbands death.


    In terms of PR, it would be digging up alot of old things that WWE probably would not like to have to talk about again.


    Plus I think the WWE have a quota of 1 each when it comes to having people enter into the Hall of Fame that have already died and I think Macho Man may fill the spot this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Owen Hart will never be inducted, his widow Martha will never let it happen
    What about when his Widow dies? Surely no-one can stop it then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    What about when his Widow dies? Surely no-one can stop it then?

    His children can stop it then.. They all have a bitter hatred for the WWE due to the way Owen died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Carlos Colon is rumored to be one of the next inductees. Carlito and Primo's father and Epico's uncle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    they all hate the WWE but accepted the out of court settlement without the WWE admitting liability and saying they had done anything wrong :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Yip, I never see Owen going in unfortunately. I think Martha is suing the WWE again in relation to Owen's inclusion in certain DVD releases, such as The Hart Family Anthology etc.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Yip, I never see Owen going in unfortunately. I think Martha is suing the WWE again in relation to Owen's inclusion in certain DVD releases, such as The Hart Family Anthology etc.:rolleyes:

    The women seriously needs to move on with her life. She can never erase the prestigious career in wrestling Owen had, It was his life's legacy and it should be remembered and celebrated by both the current and future generations of fans to come.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Macho Man (R.I.P.) should be inducted by his brother Lanny if that were possible *cue several close ups of a tearful Stephanie. Zoom out to show a quietly seething Vince *. Additionally, his ex-wife and former valet, the first lady of the WWF R.I.P. Miss Elizabeth should be inducted also *cue several close-ups of a shifty looking Lex Luger.*

    I don't blame Martha Hart for not wanting Owen inducted. The way that WWF/E handled the situation in the immediate wake of his death was distasteful in my opinion. They did not stop the PPV after word of his death came through and that was wrong. The Raw is Owen special was ill advised. It was less than 24 hours after the man had died in the most tragic circumstances and there had to be this big live grief-stravaganza. I know that the best of intentions were there but it felt too much like a show. They could have aired a best of Owen compilation and given more collected tributes in the days and weeks that followed when the devastating news sunk in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    briany wrote: »
    Macho Man (R.I.P.) should be inducted by his brother Lanny if that were possible *cue several close ups of a tearful Stephanie. Zoom out to show a quietly seething Vince *. Additionally, his ex-wife and former valet, the first lady of the WWF R.I.P. Miss Elizabeth should be inducted also *cue several close-ups of a shifty looking Lex Luger.*

    I don't blame Martha Hart for not wanting Owen inducted. The way that WWF/E handled the situation in the immediate wake of his death was distasteful in my opinion. They did not stop the PPV after word of his death came through and that was wrong. The Raw is Owen special was ill advised. It was less than 24 hours after the man had died in the most tragic circumstances and there had to be this big live grief-stravaganza. I know that the best of intentions were there but it felt too much like a show. They could have aired a best of Owen compilation and given more collected tributes in the days and weeks that followed when the devastating news sunk in.


    Raw is Owen was one of the greatest things Vince ever done. Noone was forced to wrestle and everyone was allowed to share stories about their friend and wrestle in tribute to him. And while I can see why some would have a problem with the PPV going on, it was a very tough call to make and, unfortunately, Vince runs a business and it would have been a bad business move to loose all the revenue from the PPV. It's not the right way for anyone to think when it comes to a human life but that's business unfortunately.

    I won't speak my mind on Martha because I have little kind words for her and plenty of vulgar ones, but I will say that isn't acting for Owens memory but herself. She wanted to Oweb to stop wrestling before they can wed and had a chip on her shoulder about the industry long before Owens passing. The Hart family don't get along with her and have publicaly questioned her motives behind her lawsuit against WWE over the Hart legacy DVD.

    Owen belongs in the HoF, and I can Vince just doing a Hart Family induction like the Vin Eric's just to get around her for the time being.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Raw is Owen was one of the greatest things Vince ever done.

    I really cant recall the points/arguments at the time but I came from what I read that the show was a cynical ratings stunt during the Monday Night Wars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    rovert wrote: »
    Raw is Owen was one of the greatest things Vince ever done.

    I really cant recall the points/arguments at the time but I came from what I read that the show was a cynical ratings stunt during the Monday Night Wars.

    There is a strong argument for both sides to be honest. Even if it was a ratings stunt it doesn't take away from how special a night it was. I still remember me and my friends all meeting up to watch it (We were unapologetic Owen marks) and getting emotional durin the whole thing. It was a brilliant tribute and if it was used as a ratings booster it was a tasteful one at least. Same cant be said for the aftermath of the Eddie tribute shows...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There is a strong argument for both sides to be honest. Even if it was a ratings stunt it doesn't take away from how special a night it was. I still remember me and my friends all meeting up to watch it (We were unapologetic Owen marks) and getting emotional durin the whole thing. It was a brilliant tribute and if it was used as a ratings booster it was a tasteful one at least. Same cant be said for the aftermath of the Eddie tribute shows...

    You can't argue that there were generally good intentions motivating Raw is Owen and I doubt that even Vince was thinking "At least some good ratings will come out of this." but Stone Cold coming out at the end cracking open beers, toasting the Titantron with Owen on it and guzzling them down? Rock doing his big point to the sky people's elbow? It felt less like a show making a tribute than a tribute making a good show and you know that if Owen were inducted there would be another round of A. Montage of Owens life and career set to heart rending melodic acoustic rock or uplifting electric rock and B. Sit down interviews with his compatriots, perhaps bordering on tears. When that's over, there's the obligatory fade out to the HoF gathering giving a standing ovation wjth close ups of whoever is crying so I don't blame Martha Hart for not wanting, as she might see it, the WWE getting more emotional mileage out of Owen's death.

    Tributes to stars who have passed are absolutely appropriate but a video montage the night after, accompanied by a 3 doors down song does not a tribute make. It feels trite, hurried, cynical and formulaic to the point that I wouldn't be surprised if there was a WWE production exec going, "Roll the death package!". Let the tributes come in the weeks that follow when people have taken it in somewhat and thought of the best ways to remember that particular individual's life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Fully admit to possibly talking out of my arse here as I am trying remember but I think Martha/Hart family didnt want the Raw to go ahead.

    It was felt that Austin's toast to Owen was inappropriate as Owen wasnt a drinker.

    Vince really did fear getting slaughtered in the ratings and handing viewers to Nitro if they just repeated last week's show. Some posters here might say "what about airing old matches then" but the issue there was that Owen spent the vast majority of his run as a heel and the commentary was always on his case for being this conniving heel so they couldnt air old matches as it wouldn't be appropriate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Edge & The Horsemen


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Edge stated during an interview with Aftermath on The Score Monday night that if the choice is his, Christian will induct him into the WWE Hall of Fame.

    WWE announced during the first hour of Monday’s RAW SuperShow that Edge would be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame the night after WrestleMania XXVIII.

    As noted earlier, The Four Horsemen as a group will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame this year. JJ Dillon will be inducted with Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Barry Windham. It will be interesting to see how the Flair situation is handled as he is currently signed to a TNA deal.

    Christian and Shawn Michaels went on Twitter to congratulate Edge for his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame, which will take place the night before WrestleMania XXVIII.

    “A gigantic, enormous congratulations to Edge on his Hall of Fame induction. Unbelievably well deserved & I could not be happier for him!!!” wrote Michaels, a fellow WWE Hall of Famer.

    Christian added, “Edge… Hall Of Fame… No one deserves it more #YouThinkYouKnowMe.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Is edge not young to be in the hall of fame. Not saying he shouldn't be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Edge is in the HoF before Rock, Undertaker, Macho Man and a crap load of others. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Don't see the problem.

    Rock, Taker and many others are active hall of famers just without the place/official title yet. They can still wrestle. Edge can't. Edge is also retired. Unlike other wrestlers who have just left and are just considered for a place, Edge is officially gone. He doesn't have any years left in him to wrestle so they're giving him the place. Inducting him now also lets WWE give him another pat on the back as the youngest inductee.

    They've been saying he's a future fall of famer for years, and now the time has come where he can no longer wrestle, and people are crying "Too soon!"? I just don't get it...


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Edge seems a young enough choice, but's he had a career which deserves to see him inducted. Personally, I would rather he goes in now when he's remembered than wait twenty years and have to go in in front of people who don't know who he is.

    I've been all for younger guys like Rock or Taker going in previous years, so am happy for Edge.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Yea would have thought they would have kept Edge till next year (if they were going to have WM in Canada)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Chuffed for Edge. A very deserving Hall Of Fame inductee and don't forget the WWE treat the HOF as a big part of the show so they need a big headliner.

    The 4 Horsemen!! Probably the greatest stable of all time. I'd like to point out I called it a few posts back...:D

    Diamonds are forever and so are the four horsemen.

    Be interesting to see if Flair takes part considering he's under contract to TNA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Mill Mascaras is going in too right? I wonder will Del Rio do the induction, maybe along with his Dad, Dos Caras.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 The Baptist


    Apparently Savage made a pact not to accept a HOF induction unless his brother and dad were part of the ceremony as a whole family.

    Seems a bit strange, considering they are hardly worthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Rumour that Yokozuna is the next inductee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    WWE COO Triple H also announced via WWE's official website that Mexican legend Mil Mascaras will also be inducted into the Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April.

    http://www1.skysports.com/other-sports/news/14203/7421787/Kane-s-hate-shows-no-bounds

    He's Alberto Del Rio's father.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    WWE COO Triple H also announced via WWE's official website that Mexican legend Mil Mascaras will also be inducted into the Hall of Fame's 2012 class in Miami in April.

    That was announced back in October, when WWE tapped SmackDown from Mexico



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Edge seems a young enough choice, but's he had a career which deserves to see him inducted. Personally, I would rather he goes in now when he's remembered than wait twenty years and have to go in in front of people who don't know who he is.

    I've been all for younger guys like Rock or Taker going in previous years, so am happy for Edge.
    Is that not the big problem with the HoF? Half of the people in it dont deserve to be there? If Edge isnt remembered in 20 years time, he obviously didnt do enough. Undertaker, Rock, Austin, Triple H etc will all be remembered. Will Edge? Probably not, so why is he getting a sympathy induction before people who have actually done something to earn a place in it?

    It's already a joke of a HoF, why continue to make it a joke by inducting random guys who were popular for a few years ahead of people who have done much, much more for the business?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Is that not the big problem with the HoF? Half of the people in it dont deserve to be there? If Edge isnt remembered in 20 years time, he obviously didnt do enough.

    How many people today would have an honest idea of who Harley Race was? Or even somebody like Terry Funk? Just that time might forget somebody doesn't remove their Hall of Fame credentials. More people from this era than you'd expect will be forgotten by the vast, vast majority in twenty years time.


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