Who is your favourite politician and what are your political values?

comeback_kid · 01-05-2012 7:18pm

tony007 wrote: »

I'm sorry, but you're talking nonsense. Reagan and Thatcher weren't libertarians. Reagan was statist.

hes wasnt statist by irish standards

all poltical parties in ireland are statist so it would be nice to see an unappologetic capitalst pig come to the fore

tony007 · 01-05-2012 7:21pm

comeback_kid wrote: »

hes wasnt statist by irish standards

all poltical parties in ireland are statist so it would be nice to see an unappologetic capitalst pig come to the fore

yes, he was. He massively increased state spending when in power.

comeback_kid · 01-05-2012 8:01pm

tony007 wrote: »

yes, he was. He massively increased state spending when in power.

republicans dont tend to regard defense spending as spending

tony007 · 01-05-2012 9:20pm

comeback_kid wrote: »

republicans dont tend to regard defense spending as spending

They're wrong so.

DonQuay1 · 01-05-2012 9:46pm

a) Who is your favourite politician and b) what are your political values?

a) Shoot every single politician (No exceptions) .... then re-shoot them when they're dead - to make sure.

b) I'm middle of the road.

laoch na mona · 01-05-2012 9:48pm

joe higgans or jerry adams
left leaning slightly socialist and republican

comeback_kid · 01-05-2012 10:07pm

laoch na mona wrote: »

joe higgans or jerry adams
left leaning slightly socialist and republican

left leaning by who,s standards , lenins ?

Owen_S · 01-05-2012 10:09pm

I'm a firm believer in not letting school teachers run the health system. IMO most of the country's elected politicians are babbling morons who really shouldn't have been elected in the first place, and our problems stem from how they are elected at a local level.

I think that civilization is fecked, which is pessimistic but the truth.

BOHtox · 01-05-2012 10:24pm

tony007 wrote: »

I'm sorry, but you're talking nonsense. Reagan and Thatcher weren't libertarians. Reagan was statist.

I never said I liked them because they were libertarians. They were all good conservatists with strong characters and were very decisive - more than you can say about pretty much every politician!

The_Kew_Tour · 01-05-2012 10:26pm

goat2 wrote: »

Michael Healy Rae,
a man of the people, for the people

you taking the piss right?

emigrate2012 · 02-05-2012 1:54am

Favourite? Gotta be Joan button, that sasquash really puts lead in my pencil.

Politics? Progressive,intelligent and for the greater good of all.But seeing as how in this country,the people who practice such are few and far between and are generally independents,they'll never come to power. All of which means the country's getting fcuked,ass or mouth,either way we're taking someone else's load.

Formation · 02-05-2012 2:00am

ripcurl105 wrote: »

no foreigners
take back our country
thatcherism
no more nigerians or knackers or gypsies
simples
then we have a pure clean society

mod: banned.

there has been more than enough inbreeding.

tony007 · 02-05-2012 11:13am

BOHtox wrote: »

I never said I liked them because they were libertarians. They were all good conservatists with strong characters and were very decisive - more than you can say about pretty much every politician!

If you like free-market capitalism you wouldn't like them.

bwatson · 02-05-2012 11:39am

Nigel Farage is my favourite politician.

I agree with his party's liberal policies on many social issues, and also agree with their stance on the European Union's invasion of sovereignty among many others.

I am pleased that a vote for the UKIP among many people is no longer considered to be a waste. In the next election it looks as if they will have surpassed the Liberal Democrats due to the hopelessness and ineptitude of the current conservative government.

Moreover, he is incredibly astute, charismatic and articulate. Far more so than any other leader of a mainstream British party.

BOHtox · 04-05-2012 8:40am

tony007 wrote: »

If you like free-market capitalism you wouldn't like them.

Well... I do.

They were both fiscally conservative, they both had free markets, both privatised, lower taxes etc.

tony007 · 04-05-2012 3:37pm

BOHtox wrote: »

Well... I do.

They were both fiscally conservative, they both had free markets, both privatised, lower taxes etc.

Reagan didn't have a free market. Do you call privatising profit and socialising loss free market economics?!
Government spending was HUGE after he left. That is not fiscal conservatism.

Min · 04-05-2012 4:16pm

IrishAm wrote: »

I quite like Nigel Farage. If there was an Irish politician of the same ilk, I would support him.

A few politicians to stand up against the greedy farmers would be nice too.

Who are these greedy farmers given the average income is less than half the industrial wage?

Min · 04-05-2012 4:17pm

Lech Walesa
Vaclav Havel.
They put most of today's politicians to shame.

BOHtox · 04-05-2012 4:31pm

tony007 wrote: »

Reagan didn't have a free market. Do you call privatising profit and socialising loss free market economics?!

Government spending was HUGE after he left. That is not fiscal conservatism.

What do you mean by that in bold?
Reagan cut regulation, tax and controlled inflation.

16 million jobs were created, whilst dealing with very high inflation and unemployment.

tony007 · 04-05-2012 4:52pm

BOHtox wrote: »

What do you mean by that in bold?
Reagan cut regulation, tax and controlled inflation.

16 million jobs were created, whilst dealing with very high inflation and unemployment.

What are you talking about? Whenhe began his time in office it was around 5.7 percent unemployment. Whenhe left it was about 5! And if he actually used the vast amount of money to actually create jobs, the benefits would have been huge compared to giving it to the military.
I mean that hisadministration hoisted the debts/risk of private institutions onto the peoples backs. Hebailed out Chrysler, among others.
Hewas one of the most protectionist presidents in recent times.

BOHtox · 04-05-2012 5:04pm

tony007 wrote: »

What are you talking about? Whenhe began his time in office it was around 5.7 percent unemployment. Whenhe left it was about 5! And if he actually used the vast amount of money to actually create jobs, the benefits would have been huge compared to giving it to the military.
I mean that hisadministration hoisted the debts/risk of private institutions onto the peoples backs. Hebailed out Chrysler, among others.
Hewas one of the most protectionist presidents in recent times.

Calm down and use the space bar!

It was 7.1 when Reagan took office, peaking at 10.8 before shortening to 5.5.

Also, Carter bailed out Chrysler

RichieC · 04-05-2012 5:15pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

every time somebody on boards says my name a hippy gets their dole cut off :pac:

It's not your name.

Fenian Army · 04-05-2012 5:47pm

Currently, Pearse Doherty

TehDagsBass · 04-05-2012 7:30pm

Stephen Donnelly.

Currently impressed with the job Alan Shatter is doing.

Politically my views do not align with parties I vote for on a lot of things, but I'll vote for them every chance I get to ensure utter gob****es like Sinn Fein, the ULA and Joe Higgins never see power in this country.

tony007 · 04-05-2012 8:34pm

BOHtox wrote: »

Calm down and use the space bar!

It was 7.1 when Reagan took office, peaking at 10.8 before shortening to 5.5.

Also, Carter bailed out Chrysler

The figures I'm looking at say otherwise.
Sorry, Continental Illinois Bank. got mixed up.

shancoduff · 04-05-2012 9:55pm

TehDagsBass wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly.

Currently impressed with the job Alan Shatter is doing.

Politically my views do not align with parties I vote for on a lot of things, but I'll vote for them every chance I get to ensure utter gob****es like Sinn Fein, the ULA and Joe Higgins never see power in this country.

Alan Shatter: Oh legislation, you're hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8rfybVYFqQ

christmas2012 · 04-05-2012 10:01pm

favourite politician is this like voting for a personality,why would anybody have a favourite politician,(well enda kennys not my favourite for bringing back water charges,and implementing the new household tax,taxing for a house people paid for,its only a matter of time before all this goes up to the thousands,and what about those who cannot afford)..

there all scamming ****,putting in false claims for expenses,thinking off the top of my head,would be: mary harney(fas scandal),ruari quinn (false phone and travel expenses),ivor callely etc..

mikemac1 · 04-05-2012 10:04pm

christmas2012 wrote: »

there all scamming ****,putting in false claims for expenses,thinking off the top of my head,would be:
,ruari quinn (false phone and travel expenses),.

I hadn't heard this, I thought he was one of the better ones

Got a lot of credit for working with Nora Owen and setting up Criminal Assets Bureau

So the bould Ruari wants to tackle criminals and then gets involved in fraud himself

Fenian Army · 04-05-2012 10:13pm

shancoduff wrote: »

Alan Shatter: Oh legislation, you're hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8rfybVYFqQ

I was in leinster house at the time, in fairness that was hilarious

justmyopinion · 06-05-2012 6:36pm

I went out today to try and buy enough healthy food for my kids for tomorrows dinner with the last
bit of money i have till next friday and to be honest I saw this chip of alan shatter laughing at his own
speech and i found it very unsettling. Ok i know we all can get a fit of the giggles but if i had written that
speech before hand and see where i am at the moment in my life I would not see the funny side of it.

It just shows me yet again how out of touch these people are, even though i voted for them and i naively
believed that they took it so seriously and had some understanding. For me now i have no faith in any
of them . I won't say any more because there is no point.

jupiterjack · 06-05-2012 10:05pm

Mary O'Rourke is a good laugh, if she still counts.

Eve_Dublin · 06-05-2012 10:50pm

Social Democrat.

Favourite politician...I don't have one. I don't trust any of them when it comes down to it but I suppose the one closest to home and the one I'd be in the most agreement with would be Joe Higgins.

RainbowRose81 · 06-05-2012 11:03pm

ripcurl105 wrote: »

I am extremely right-leaning. I believe in little goverment power over the people, a Laissez-faire market, little as possible taxation, slashed public service, reinstatement of religion in schools an dclassroom led prayer. Super strict immigration, ie, everyone entering is fingerprinted and photographed at the border and passport number is filed. Immigrants commiting crimes are deported permanently and blocked from country (where the fingerprints come in).
Respect fo relderly and pride in the nation and more respect for Gardaí and army.

This is a very strange post giving the fact that there is very few politicans in our government that are actually wanting to help people in our society besides bankers and the wealthy. If your into dishonesty, falseness and like living in a big bliss of ignorance believeing everything the government say then you will have a lot to chose from. For Honesty and humanity, I go for the socialist party and Pearse doherty and Mary lou Mc D at least they are doing what is right and standing up for the vulernable in socety.

highlydebased · 06-05-2012 11:04pm

Facism.

Because far too many people are too stupid to be let about their own affairs by themselves.

liogairmhordain · 07-05-2012 12:16am

true wrote: »

( responsible for deaths of her friends like Airey Neace, Mrs Tebbbit etc.

mrs tebbit still alive afaik

dsmythy · 07-05-2012 1:20am

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Social Democrat.

Favourite politician...I don't have one. I don't trust any of them when it comes down to it but I suppose the one closest to home and the one I'd be in the most agreement with would be Joe Higgins.

Joe's no social democrat in fairness.

Smidge · 07-05-2012 1:23am

At one point(15 or more years ago) I did have the teeniest bit of respect for Pat Carey.
Then he went an f*cked it all up

Who is your favourite politician and what are your political values?

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