ILoveLimerick.com what do you think?

ZombieBride · 09-10-2011 8:47pm #1

They seem to have every event covered now and have a video for most things to do with Limerick. Fair play to them I say trying to do something positive for a change, though there are a few people who have a bee in their bonnets about them and have told me as much.

But what do you think of them, yeah or nay or couldn't care either way?

ninty9er · 09-10-2011 8:49pm

ZombieBride wrote: »

They seem to have every event covered now and have a video for most things to do with Limerick. Fair play to them I say trying to do something positive for a change, though there are a few people who have a bee in their bonnets about them and have told me as much.

But what do you think of them, yeah or nay or couldn't care either way?

They need to broaden the presenter base. I imagine that would appease most of the detractors.

RonMexico · 09-10-2011 9:19pm

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

krudler · 09-10-2011 10:36pm

RonMexico wrote: »

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

this a million times. the stuff in the local papers is cringe inducing.

The Snipe · 09-10-2011 11:25pm

RonMexico wrote: »

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

If thats how you think, then you really don't know what he's like at all do you...

Sorry but, I'm a photographer with this 'Shameless Self Promotion' team; and you don't actually understand the ammount of work that goes in from all of us involved, and you also don't understand the actual ammount of us involved with it to actually make it work either.

Grumpypants · 09-10-2011 11:32pm

ZombieBride wrote: »

They seem to have every event covered now and have a video for most things to do with Limerick. Fair play to them I say trying to do something positive for a change, though there are a few people who have a bee in their bonnets about them and have told me as much.

But what do you think of them, yeah or nay or couldn't care either way?

It's hard in Ireland to do anything in the media and not get that "he thinks he's great" reaction from some people.

Site could do with a bit of an update but other than that it's pretty good can't see any issues with it.

The Snipe · 09-10-2011 11:36pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

It's hard in Ireland to do anything in the media and not get that "he thinks he's great" reaction from some people.

Site could do with a bit of an update but other than that it's pretty good can't see any issues with it.

http://www.ilovelimerick.ie/ ?

Site is still in Beta at the moment, We have a web Dev, Susan Mosley working on it constantly so we can get it finished ASAP.

bigpink · 09-10-2011 11:41pm

Well for something thats all volunteer i think?Its good but i can see why people maybe dont like it,things on celia holamn lee and social events are boring the real life storiesare good tho.Change of presenters might be good once in while

naughtysmurf · 09-10-2011 11:46pm

RonMexico wrote: »

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

Maybe you could tell me what you are doing to promote the people / area you live, in a positive light?

Simon Adebisi · 10-10-2011 12:51am

Ditch Celia & Rich. Smug attention seeking muppets.

whatdoicare · 10-10-2011 1:00am

I quite like the website - it's user friendly and looks good.
I don't see why everyone has a problem with Celia and Rich, they appeal to a lot of people and are into everything, although I agree that a few younger presenters would appeal to the younger generation and more appeal is never a harm.
I'm also quite surprised that there's no mention of the recent Zombie outbreak festival on your website - I'm almost certain I saw photos on your facebook site....
Keep up the good work

Poxyshamrock · 10-10-2011 1:12am

It's a bit ridiculous that their website is ilovelimerick.ie

The Snipe · 10-10-2011 8:39am

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

It's a bit ridiculous that their website is ilovelimerick.ie

Ilovelimerick.com forwards to the .ie it was set to the .ie for the host and while it was in alpha stages

L.T.P. · 10-10-2011 11:46am

Seems to be more of a self promoting vehicle for this Rich Anthon guy than for promoting all that is good and positive about Limerick.

The Snipe · 10-10-2011 12:33pm

L.T.P. wrote: »

Seems to be more of a self promoting vehicle for this Rich Anthon guy than for promoting all that is good and positive about Limerick.

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

Buglim · 10-10-2011 12:39pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

He has plenty to gain from it and he knows it. It has become a vehicle for him and a select few friends to promote themselves.

Berty · 10-10-2011 12:57pm

I unliked/unfriended the page on Facebook because it seemed to always be sharing links to womens clothes and shoes and the like. Most of which had nothing to do with Limerick.

Business all over the place seemed to like tagging Ilovelimerick in their pictures which had nothing to do with Limerick.

As 99% of the posting didn't interest me I stopped liking the page and unfriended them.

The straw that broke the camels back was a personally motivated post on Facebook giving the authors very personal opinion on a political matter. I gave up after that.

Simon Adebisi · 10-10-2011 1:27pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

I think people would believe that more if he didn't stick his mush into every picture.

RonMexico · 10-10-2011 1:36pm

I'll never forget the day Rich Anthon (as he likes to call himself) approached me and said - "Hi are you involved in [insert area of media industry]?" When my answer was negative he just blanked me and walked away. I had to laugh. Sorry I didn't bull**** him just to watch him foam at the mouth at the prospect of more attention.

I have nothing against the photographers involved but the "presenters" element just reeks of self promotion. They'd show up to the opening of a coffin if they thought it would get their mug in the local rag newspapers.

Buglim · 10-10-2011 1:39pm

RonMexico wrote: »

I'll never forget the day Rich Anthon (as he likes to call himself) approached me and said - "Hi are you involved in [insert area of media industry]?" When my answer was negative he just blanked me and walked away. I had to laugh. Sorry I didn't bull**** him just to watch him foam at the mouth at the prospect of more attention.

I have nothing against the photographers involved but the "presenters" element just reeks of self promotion. They'd show up to the opening of a coffin if they thought it would get their mug in the local rag newspapers.

Ha, this happened to me. he knew I was working in the media and kissed my ass at a party but when he found out that I couldn't influence the editorial he did the exact same thing.

Sorry but he reeks of self promotion but it's actually funny to watch him work.

The Snipe · 10-10-2011 2:04pm

Well if you lot don't like it, unfriend it - its simple. You don't have to put up with it. From working with them, I know for a fact that I find it benifical in getting me to the contacts I need. So what if he is in every second photo, so is the mayor at a mayrol event. People who have seeked promotion off Ilovelimerick have seen it can help an awful lot! Look at the headway ball! I shot all the promotion stuff for that, with him, and it was a complete success!

electrobanana · 10-10-2011 2:35pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

Is that you Rich..

L.T.P. · 10-10-2011 2:55pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

So why does he share his own Facebook profile on it where he describes himself as Presenter, Songwriter, Producer, Creative Director, Actor?

kilburn · 10-10-2011 3:31pm

some of it is interesting but it is a self promotion platform, at least he contributes something unlike those city limits clowns WHO?

ZombieBride · 10-10-2011 3:53pm

I've just checked the facebook page, and the 10 most recent updates are:

Bothar Fashion Fundraiser - Photos by Eva Birdthistle. (photos)
Headway Ball. (photos)
Limerick photographer Sean Curtin Photography who is a true artist!! Amazeballs talent!!! Please like & share!!!
High Heels and Handbags Fundraiser for Cystic Fibrosis. (photos)
Fab fab fab Limerick restaurant Texas Steakout!! Yummy!! Please like and share.....
Love this Limerick photographer! Beata Pietras Photography. Please like and share...
Limerick man & Irish Award Winning Photographer, Commercial, Portrait and Wedding Photography. Michael Martin Photography
This Friday, October 7 · 7:00pm - 10:00pm at Dunraven Arms Hotel, Adare, Co. Limerick. Tickets and further information available direct from Headway, Limerick by phoning 061-469305 or 469306, or by emailing tickets@headway.ie.
Limerick business Yvonne Fahy Photography. Please like and share...
In aid of Mid West Simon Community.Please come along and support us in our work for disadvantaged people faced with housing crisis.
Celebrating national Simon Week and creating awareness of homelessness in the region. Contact Domhnall O'Lionsigh @ 087 2760590
Zombie Walk by Dolf Patijn (photos)

It seems to be mostly Limerick charity organisations and local businesses being promoted as far as I can see, and when is that bad? Am I missing something?

ulperson · 10-10-2011 4:05pm

rich is a legend and one of the soundest guys around. he really works hard like you wouldn't believe

The Snipe · 10-10-2011 4:30pm

electrobanana wrote: »

Is that you Rich..

Actually no, I'm not.. I'm one of the photographers on their team (Cillian Keogh) Who took the photos for the Headway Ball, Outbreak, Arthurs Day, Butterfly Ball, Inspire, Inspire Wedding Fair, Limerick Pride, The Tops Ball, Outbreak Launch, Roches St. Fest, Pride Comedy Night, Thomond Swim.. And many many many more. (I'm also the lazy ****er who is the only photographer that doesn't have a bio done for the site).

Simon Adebisi · 10-10-2011 5:20pm

ulperson wrote: »

rich is a legend and one of the soundest guys around. he really works hard like you wouldn't believe

Nah this is Rich

seachto7 · 10-10-2011 11:42pm

Buglim wrote: »

Ha, this happened to me. he knew I was working in the media and kissed my ass at a party but when he found out that I couldn't influence the editorial he did the exact same thing.

Sorry but he reeks of self promotion but it's actually funny to watch him work.

careful now

Liam Byrne · 11-10-2011 1:00am

I used to have it on my Facebook page but then it morphed into almost all gay & fashion rubbish that I had no interest in, so I removed it.

It needs a broader agenda.

Kess73 · 11-10-2011 10:26am

RonMexico wrote: »

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

I think this hits the nail on the head. The idea is a very valid one and one that could have far more impact than it currently does, but there are a few involved that come across as being more interested in self promotion or in attaining some kind of Z list celebrity status (which in a place as small as Limerick is so laughable) than they are in promoting Limerick. Now this is not true of everyone involved, but through one of my past jobs I had one particular person involved with iloveLimerick who made a beeline for me whenever that person saw me and that person never used the word "we" when talking about IloveLimerick but stuck with "I" constantly. That person was very very interested in the fact that the company I was with (and was regional manager of Ireland for) had a massive media presence in the UK and US, especially in the entertainment sector. When it was made clear to that person that he/she would not get any personal attention, and that any company involvement would have a professional media/PR person attached, the person's interest wained.

I Love Limerick could be an excellent string to Limerick's bow though. They need to stop recycling the same people time after time, and I don't just mean their presenters.

They also need to widen their scope of interests dramatically imho. At present they seem to be targetting a very small part of the population of Limerick, and they come across as being very clique orientated regardless of whether that is actually true or not.

I think some of their PR comes across and tries to come across as them being far bigger and more Influential than they are.

This thread is a good taster as to how they are perceived by members of the public who have no involvement with them. Great concept that needs a better execution. imho of course.

The Snipe · 11-10-2011 10:42am

Kess73 wrote: »

RonMexico wrote: »

There is too much of a whiff of shameless self promotion in a desperate grasp for celebrity status about it from the usual culprits.

Which is a shame because it is a nice idea. At the moment however it appears to be more ILoveMyself.com than ILoveLimerick.com

I think this hits the nail on the head. The idea is a very valid one and one that could have far more impact than it currently does, but there are a few involved that come across as being more interested in self promotion or in attaining some kind of Z list celebrity status (which in a place as small as Limerick is so laughable) than they are in promoting Limerick. Now this is not true of everyone involved, but through one of my past jobs I had one particular person involved with iloveLimerick who made a beeline for me whenever that person saw me and that person never used the word "we" when talking about IloveLimerick but stuck with "I" constantly. That person was very very interested in the fact that the company I was with (and was regional manager of Ireland for) had a massive media presence in the UK and US, especially in the entertainment sector. When it was made clear to that person that he/she would not get any personal attention, and that any company involvement would have a professional media/PR person attached, the person's interest wained.

I Love Limerick could be an excellent string to Limerick's bow though. They need to stop recycling the same people time after time, and I don't just mean their presenters.

They also need to widen their scope of interests dramatically imho. At present they seem to be targetting a very small part of the population of Limerick, and they come across as being very clique orientated regardless of whether that is actually true or not.

I think some of their PR comes across and tries to come across as them being far bigger and more Influential than they are.

This thread is a good taster as to how they are perceived by members of the public who have no involvement with them. Great concept that needs a better execution. imho of course.

Well they only cover people who ask

Kess73 · 11-10-2011 11:08am

XiledSniper wrote: »

Well they only cover people who ask

Not totally true. They have approached people in the past, and probably still do. Which is fair enough in my eyes, and is something they should do a lot more of. If they were only to cover those that ask to be covered, then it leads to the same old faces over and over and over, which is what a lot of people on this thread have already said.

Granted by going out there and being proactive in approaching people will lead to more knockbacks than if they just sit back and wait for people to come to them, but it could also lead to bigger things as they would be extending their circles, and the practise of approaching outsiders more often and getting some rejections would put them in the position to improve their own skills which would be a good thing as well.

I'm not against what it does, but I do see where a lot of people are coming from in their perceptions of I love Limerick, and I can see how those perceptions can be reinforced by some of what the I Love Limerick crew do.

I'm not knocking them, but I do think the potential the organisation has, and I do think there is a lot of potential there, is being somewhat wasted.

The Snipe · 11-10-2011 2:19pm

Kess73 wrote: »

XiledSniper wrote: »

Well they only cover people who ask

Not totally true. They have approached people in the past, and probably still do. Which is fair enough in my eyes, and is something they should do a lot more of. If they were only to cover those that ask to be covered, then it leads to the same old faces over and over and over, which is what a lot of people on this thread have already said.

Granted by going out there and being proactive in approaching people will lead to more knockbacks than if they just sit back and wait for people to come to them, but it could also lead to bigger things as they would be extending their circles, and the practise of approaching outsiders more often and getting some rejections would put them in the position to improve their own skills which would be a good thing as well.

I'm not against what it does, but I do see where a lot of people are coming from in their perceptions of I love Limerick, and I can see how those perceptions can be reinforced by some of what the I Love Limerick crew do.

I'm not knocking them, but I do think the potential the organisation has, and I do think there is a lot of potential there, is being somewhat wasted.

That'd been posted too early, I was posting on my mobile!

aN.Droid · 13-10-2011 5:37am

Same faces, Same stories and same old gay and fashion agenda. Not for me thank you.

betonit · 13-10-2011 9:55am

its profile building, which can benefit many. But "they" do seem to target and dismiss certain people and events that are more beneficial to their profile rather than limerick. Its a CV builder.

im starting a website

ilovelimerickmore.com and ill wear a mask

Xennon · 13-10-2011 10:40am

Originally Posted by XiledSniper

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

Originally Posted by XiledSniper

I'm one of the photographers on their team (Cillian Keogh) Who took the photos for the Headway Ball, Outbreak, Arthurs Day, Butterfly Ball, Inspire, Inspire Wedding Fair, Limerick Pride, The Tops Ball, Outbreak Launch, Roches St. Fest, Pride Comedy Night, Thomond Swim.. And many many many more. (I'm also the lazy ****er who is the only photographer that doesn't have a bio done for the site)

Originally Posted by XiledSniper

I know for a fact that I find it benifical in getting me to the contacts I need.

So.....ammm which is it? a vehicle for the promotion of the people involved in it or of Limerick?

As seems to be the common feeling about the site, I love the idea and kudos on the site design, but the interviewer base does need to be broadened.

The Snipe · 13-10-2011 3:29pm

Its about promoting Limerick; Which I'm all for, But - as a photographer, since I'm working essentially a lot of this for free; I need to get something out of it, which its my networking side which is always on the go handing out cards, which I'd be doing if I'm covering an event with or without them; But if they have me doing more events its more chances to hand out my cards, (Or its just forcing me into events that I wouldn't have known about, or thought of doing). So by getting me the contacts, I essentially mean, Getting me out shooting what I wouldn't normally do.

How do you think out Famous Munster Images on here came to flurish? None other then ILoveLimerick.

Kess73 · 13-10-2011 4:02pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

Its about promoting Limerick; Which I'm all for, But - as a photographer, since I'm working essentially a lot of this for free; I need to get something out of it, which its my networking side which is always on the go handing out cards, which I'd be doing if I'm covering an event with or without them; But if they have me doing more events its more chances to hand out my cards, (Or its just forcing me into events that I wouldn't have known about, or thought of doing). So by getting me the contacts, I essentially mean, Getting me out shooting what I wouldn't normally do.

How do you think out Famous Munster Images on here came to flurish? None other then ILoveLimerick.

Oi, where are the shots of the red sky you took a few weeks ago? It looked perfect for some class shots the evening we drove past you
out on the road with your camera

The Snipe · 13-10-2011 4:43pm

Stalker!!! I've got em printed! I'll upload em now actually and post em in the Limerick Thread!

And you drove past me.. And I didn't even notice you...

Kess73 · 13-10-2011 5:28pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

Stalker!!! I've got em printed! I'll upload em now actually and post em in the Limerick Thread!

And you drove past me.. And I didn't even notice you...

I did mention it in the random waffle thread about 20 to 30 minutes after passing you that day.

I was a passenger in my friend's car as she drove past you and a man near your house. The car even beeped at you. She lives down the estate from you and knows you.

Hence me being in the area so often.

The Snipe · 13-10-2011 6:00pm

My father? :P

gihj · 13-10-2011 9:38pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

Its about promoting Limerick; Which I'm all for, But - as a photographer, since I'm working essentially a lot of this for free; I need to get something out of it, which its my networking side which is always on the go handing out cards, which I'd be doing if I'm covering an event with or without them; But if they have me doing more events its more chances to hand out my cards, (Or its just forcing me into events that I wouldn't have known about, or thought of doing). So by getting me the contacts, I essentially mean, Getting me out shooting what I wouldn't normally do.

How do you think out Famous Munster Images on here came to flurish? None other then ILoveLimerick.

Ever thought of standing on O,Connell street and handing out your cards to everyone who passes??
I could be wrong but i thing you might get a wider network that way.

But then again it won't get you and the other handful of folk the same gigs with the same circle over and over.

Is it more work or more gigs with this lot you want?
Think carefully before you reply now.:D

Kess73 · 13-10-2011 11:14pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

My father? :P

Ok he is your father.:) I had no idea who he was and was not interested enough to ask my friend.:p

She said that you are a lovely little fellow though. Polite and all that. So I told her that I was going to pull your legs off.:D

The Snipe · 13-10-2011 11:20pm

Kess73 wrote: »

XiledSniper wrote: »

My father? :P

Ok he is your father.:) I had no idea who he was and was not interested enough to ask my friend.:p

She said that you are a lovely little fellow though. Polite and all that. So I told her that I was going to pull your legs off.:D

Next time jump out and maul me!

Conor Bourke · 14-10-2011 12:48am

Back on topic.. Just a wee question for you, XiledSniper- you state the intention of Ilovelimerick.com is to promote what's good about the city and is most definitely not about self-promotion, but there's substantial feedback from posters here who like the idea but believe that in practice, the exact opposite is the case, which would lead me to wonder if there's not something going wrong somewhere.

Not being from Limerick myself, I started following it on facebook when I was new to the city but soon found myself un-following it for almost identical reasons as outlined by other posters (repetitive content, narrow focus etc.)

Do you have any plan to relay the constructive criticisms voiced here to the ILL co-ordinators, or will you be taking a "Nobody's forcing you to look at it, yer all just begrudgers" line?

The Snipe · 14-10-2011 9:33am

I'll actually be printing this all off and bringing it to him, because I agree with a lot of whats said, In terms of a change in presenters etc. Which I was saying for a while.

Conor Bourke · 14-10-2011 9:42am

Kess73 wrote: »

I Love Limerick could be an excellent string to Limerick's bow though. They need to stop recycling the same people time after time, and I don't just mean their presenters.

They also need to widen their scope of interests dramatically imho. At present they seem to be targetting a very small part of the population of Limerick, and they come across as being very clique orientated regardless of whether that is actually true or not.

I think some of their PR comes across and tries to come across as them being far bigger and more Influential than they are.

This thread is a good taster as to how they are perceived by members of the public who have no involvement with them. Great concept that needs a better execution. imho of course.

Nail. On. Head. It's not just about the presenters...

J. Walter Weatherman · 14-10-2011 5:07pm

XiledSniper wrote: »

How? What does he have to gain from it? Take it from someone involved, its not about promoting him - its about promoting Limerick.

XiledSniper, I don't think just because you are involved we should all just take it that he's not about promoting himself. We can all see the videos. There have been many people who have volunteered for ilovelimerick who have left because of the self promotion and other reasons. It is obvious from looking at the videos that Richard just wants to be on camera as much as possible.

Follow the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6MfEKOWdiw

It is called Crescent inspire fashion show yet there isn't even any fashion until half way through the video. The rest of it is just Richard dancing, strutting and singing. He doesn't even say anything of substance.

The general consensus seems to be that most people think that this is a good idea ruined by the selfishness of the producers.

If you want to go around making videos about things that interest you and sticking your face in front of the camera the whole time that's fine. It's when you present it as selflessly promoting a city and it's inhabitants that people get annoyed.

maryk123 · 14-10-2011 6:21pm

I was reading this post and had noticed richard the last couple of weeks, i dont know him or know anything about him but in fairness he puts himself out there and he is very good and what he does.

I do agree with others the same faces appear every week celia and john mc namara in the same places the cornstore are there no other people or restaurants in Limerick. i am sure other resturants and people would love the publicity - it is a little same old same old and that does tend to turn me off I have a quick glance and move on.

it is a fantastic idea but just needs to be varied and tweeked a bit - he is the face of ilovelimerick and he does a great job - he coule have maybe a co-presenter and go to different locations and review places it would make it more interesting.

i just watched the utube on the fashion show and the audience loved him and yeah he is camp but thats whats great about him. maybe a little bit too much of him in the clip and the same old faces but he did a great job. Dont knock him for that.

again i dont know him only from seeing him on the papers and facebook

J. Walter Weatherman · 14-10-2011 6:50pm

Why have a presenter at all?
Would it not make more sense to just show the good things happening in limerick without someone telling us how to interpret the footage before, during and after we've seen it?

ILoveLimerick.com what do you think?

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