Pan Am [ABC - SPOILERS]

Sleepy · 18-10-2011 1:44pm

I've actually been enjoying this. Sure, it's light as candy floss but the sugary pink stuff is nice sometimes!

FouxDaFaFa · 22-10-2011 4:18am

squonk wrote: »

Seeing as this is likely to get canned as some posters say, it makes you wonder about the wisdom of RTE using licence fees to snap up something like this so early on before it's fate is known.

I was really surprised to see the ads for it on RTE too. Even though I like the show (obviously) I think it was really poor judgement for them to buy it yet when it may be cancelled or not get another series. To think shows like "Breaking Bad" have never been broadcast on Irish television but yet somehow this gets snapped up a few episodes in is so strange to me.

Looking forward to the next episode. I feel this one could be key. If they don't ramp up the action/tension a bit it could be dead in the water for being too slow-moving.

FouxDaFaFa · 24-10-2011 9:48pm

Just watched the latest episode and it was...fine. Didn't really progress much. Laura is slowly becoming someone who shouldn't be allowed out by herself, which is really irritating to watch. She needs to shake loose the mindset that she needs people constantly leading her by the hand and showing her what to do.

Liked Kate in this episode, although no good can come of this new guy. Also, the CIA aren't paying her? Wtf? Patriotism can only go so far.

baalthor · 25-10-2011 12:02am

amdublin wrote: »

Is there not one of thiae already about easyjet
Airline or something

That's a documentary but SKY had Mile High a few years ago ...

expectationlost · 25-10-2011 12:57am

stereotype of the week

Im Irish, yes okay we know we get it.

Richard Dower · 25-10-2011 1:36am

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Just watched the latest episode and it was...fine. Didn't really progress much. Laura is slowly becoming someone who shouldn't be allowed out by herself, which is really irritating to watch. She needs to shake loose the mindset that she needs people constantly leading her by the hand and showing her what to do.

Liked Kate in this episode, although no good can come of this new guy. Also, the CIA aren't paying her? Wtf? Patriotism can only go so far.

I liked this ep. alot better then last week, twas kinda fun and funny...

Ted cracks me up with his one liners

, while he did it arse about face he did a very nice thing for Laura (buying the ring), he really likes her...i'm shipping these two!, they have good banter and i think they'd make a good couple of she chilled a bit.

Erin Cummings was teriffic as Jenny!, she acted her part well and really looked like a 60's godess. Kate....well played!, her spying skillz are improving....nice thing with the red wine

It was a very "shippy" episode but each pairing was good fun tv, it scored another 1.8 last night, if it keeps like this i'm sure we'll at least see all 13 eps., dunno about a back 9 order though

Richard Dower · 25-10-2011 1:37am

expectationlost wrote: »

stereotype of the week

Im Irish, yes okay we know we get it.

Legit accent though, no "oirish" crap....i thought yer man was good.

JONJO THE MISER · 25-10-2011 2:03am

Richard your back, how was the holiday:pac:

Richard Dower · 25-10-2011 2:09am

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Richard your back, how was the holiday:pac:

Brutal....i served HARD time!

expectationlost · 25-10-2011 2:49am

Richard Dower wrote: »

Legit accent though, no "oirish" crap....i thought yer man was good.

not just him but the whole thing is stereotype after stereotype for every country and person they meet.

Kiwi_knock · 25-10-2011 4:17am

Thought it was a good episode this week, Ted and Laura have good chemistry. The captain is certainly putting himself about. I hope this can last a season, because it is enjoyable to watch without having to make you think to hard. Nice easy evening viewing.

Richard Dower · 25-10-2011 8:22am

Deadline reports ABC have added new showrunner and anticipate a back order!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/abcs-pan-am-adds-veteran-showrunner-steve-maeda-in-anticipation-of-back-order/

squonk · 25-10-2011 1:45pm

It's shaping up not a bad show, not spectacular but quite good overall. Kate is a stunner, I'd watch it for her alone!

What's bugging me at this point is that part of the 'thing' each week is the new cities they go to. London, Paris, Berlin, Rome but surely that can't go on forever? One problem that I can see is that it becomes like any new air job, for a while the new cities are exciting and great, and for the audience the same. How long though before we're going 'Oh not another Paris episode...'. I'm not sure how well this show could pull 5 seasons without becoming a drudge?

irishh_bob · 25-10-2011 7:26pm

i had high hopes for this or maybe its just that i liked the paper wrapping , watched two eppisodes so far and its left me completley cold , christina ricci isnt even quirky in it , they,ve left that roll to the french trolley dolly

Richard Dower · 30-10-2011 4:18pm

Looking forward to tonights ep. - i've grown to like the show alot and greatful it's lasted longer then Playboy Club!

Richard Dower · 31-10-2011 8:09pm

Maggie........ :mad: , dreadful what she did to Dean! :mad: , dropped him right in the shiite just to save her own skin!, she's #1 on my list now. Not a great episode overall, way too much Maggie....i don't like the character at all, nor the actress.

I wasn't interested in her backstory or sobstory, you can't justify what she did to Dean and the mistress. Even poor old guliable Laura was dropped in it by Maggie, stolen goods.....thank god for Ted!

He saved the day once again, he's always there for Laura and bails her out, Kate and the spy stuff...she's been promoted!, lets see if she can turn Mr. ER doc.

Overall....not a great ep. 2/5

Richard Dower · 01-11-2011 1:30pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ekPiixCGI

Richard Dower · 06-11-2011 12:39pm

If you missed it, ABC ordered 5 additional scripts...not episodes but it's a positive sign that we'll either get 18 eps. or a full season, not sure it'll see a season 2 though, fresh ep. tonight and it looks good!

Richard Dower · 11-11-2011 9:35pm

Ashley Green gets multi episode guest arc: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/11/twilight-actress-to-appear-on-abcs-pan-am-exclusive/

Richard Dower · 14-11-2011 7:03am

Pan Am sold to 107 countries, this might just be enough to at least see a full season order...dunno about a second, hopefully they have a plan to wrap the show if it gets axed.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/pan-am-off-to-strong-start-internationally/

I thought episode 7 was superb, it was the best since ep. 3 with Collette...Gaius Charles was awesome!, great chemistry between Laura and Gaius....the racism plot and relationship ship and of a black man and white woman was handled with alot of care and charm, also liked the Niko/Kate spy plot/love story....ep. was much better written.

Kiwi_knock · 14-11-2011 8:17pm

The most recent episode was my favourite so far, plenty of drama and some very good acting particularly Colette and Kate. How many more ways can they show that the Captain is one of the best pilots in the world.

Hopefully the show can get a full season, it deserves it the last few episodes have been very good.

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2011 10:40pm

I'm kinda hoping for a Colette and Dean romance in future episodes

FouxDaFaFa · 16-11-2011 1:50am

The most recent (Haiti) episode was really good. Quite tense in places and it was nice to show that life wasn't all swanning around the place for the airline crew.

I'm a little confused by how they're writing Laura. I didn't think she would be so cool with the

gunmen on the plane

. It just didn't seem right to me. They're probably trying to a make a "she's stronger than she looks" point or something, will wait and see.

Also, I've been predicting a future relationship between

Kate and her CIA handler

for a while so I'll lay my cards on the table and say it's going to happen.

expectationlost · 16-11-2011 12:07pm

unlucky lot

youngblood · 16-11-2011 8:58pm

Found the Haiti episode excellent, lots of great tension and nice story

Overall nice episode, like where they're going with this so far!

Basq · 19-11-2011 2:21am

ABC are pulling an "NBC" and pulling both Pan Am and Man Up from their schedules from mid-season.

ABC announced its midseason premiere schedule Friday, revealing that the new series "GCB" (short for "Good Christian Belles," originally "Good Christian Bitches") will occupy the slot following "Desperate Housewives," debuting Sunday, March 4 at 10 p.m.

Some prominent omissions from the midseason schedule -- the freshman comedy "Man Up," which has been struggling in the ratings, and which now has "Work It" in its 8:30 p.m. Tuesday timeslot, and "Pan Am," which previously had been in the post-"Housewives" slot that "GCB" is filling.

According to a network spokesperson, "Man Up" -- which finished shooting its original order approximately a week ago -- will run original episodes up to the Jan. 3 "Work It" premiere. Ths show's fate for next season's schedule hasn't been determined yet.

The midseason premieres begin Tuesday, Jan. 3 with the bow of "Work It." The much-anticipated "Celebrity Wife Swap" follows, and will occupy the Tuesday 9 p.m. timeslot.

The Ashley Judd drama "Missing," meanwhile, will premiere Thursday, March 15, occupying the 8 p.m. timeslot.

The new season of "Dancing With the Stars," meanwhile, will premiere Monday, March 19 at 8 p.m.

Source: The Wrap

FouxDaFaFa · 19-11-2011 2:27am

I hate Network television.

Richard Dower · 19-11-2011 4:26am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This blows!....Deadline are reporting Pan Am might get just ONE additional ep. (ergo 14), but Sony ain't happy with that.....i think either way the show is grounded for good

http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/abcs-body-of-proof-gets-order-for-3-more-episodes/

I think the extra ep. was just to allow them to wrap up the show, anyone take bets of Ted/Laura hooking up + dean/Colette?....maybe a flashforward and they are all loved up, Kate is working for a CIA as a superspy, Maggie makes it big in the Warhol scene and writes poetry and is a guru...lol!

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/18/abc-mid-season-fallout-pan-am-man-up-defacto-canceled-cougar-town-order-cut-no-premiere-date-scandal-apartment-23-missing-in-action/111246/

Richard Dower · 21-11-2011 7:10am

Grrrrr!....:mad: dunno how i didn't spot this, but remember when Maggie threw Dean under the bus to save her career?....well the next ep. was SUPPOSED to be "Romance Languages", but got scrapped! :eek:

http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2011/11/07/pan-am-truth-or-dare/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1826805/board/thread/190780972

Instead they went into the Gaius Charles racism ep......mad as hell! :mad:
To add insult, PA is on a three week hiatus!!!! :mad::mad::rolleyes::(

squonk · 21-11-2011 12:58pm

I didn't think I'd be sorry to hear of Pan Am's passing but, surprisingly, I am.
I expected we'd get a season out of it anyway and would never have bet on only 14 episodes. I'd have thought thought that being bought so well internationally would have guaranteed a season pickup anyway.

What happens here? Somebody mentioned that the series was bought in 107 countries. I would have thought the revenue from that would have been at least as good as the revenue from a home audience? Heck, there's only 2 weeks difference between RTE & NBC I think, or something very similar so the revenue is almost instant too. It seems strange! I presume a lot of those international stations payed X up front to get the show so quickly and had to commit to buying a season?

Actually, it kind of begs a wider question too. Is it worth stations like RTE bidding on promising new series that, had they waited a year, would probably make it on late at night as filler for the summer break, and at a knock down price as well?

squonk · 21-11-2011 12:59pm

I didn't think I'd be sorry to hear of Pan Am's passing but, surprisingly, I am.
I expected we'd get a season out of it anyway and would never have bet on only 14 episodes. I'd have thought thought that being bought so well internationally would have guaranteed a season pickup anyway.

What happens here? Somebody mentioned that the series was bought in 107 countries. I would have thought the revenue from that would have been at least as good as the revenue from a home audience? Heck, there's only 2 weeks difference between RTE & NBC I think, or something very similar so the revenue is almost instant too. It seems strange! I presume a lot of those international stations payed X up front to get the show so quickly and had to commit to buying a season?

Actually, it kind of begs a wider question too. Is it worth stations like RTE bidding on promising new series that, had they waited a year, would probably make it on late at night as filler for the summer break, and at a knock down price as well?

amdublin · 21-11-2011 10:39pm

Rio

God Laura's whingey

Diddler1977 · 21-11-2011 10:49pm

Can't believe Maggie shopped in Dean......

Richard Dower · 29-11-2011 5:32pm

Casting news: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/28/pan-am-darren-pettie/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1mgvVuBF0

Ashley Greene pics: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/28/twilights-ashley-greene-on-pan-am-exclusive-first-look/

Even more here: http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/11/pan-am-set-photos-of-ashley-greene-28th.html

expectationlost · 29-11-2011 10:35pm

is Ashely Green in the last ep then i'd be happy

Richard Dower · 29-11-2011 10:42pm

expectationlost wrote: »

is Ashely Green in the last ep then i'd be happy

She's in the last four eps.

Biggins · 30-11-2011 9:39am

* cough *

* http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/29/us-panam-idUSTRE7AS2JH20111129?feedType=RSS&feedName=vcMedia&virtualBrandChannel=10109&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=59213 *

* http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00045705.html *

* http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/pan_am_really_canceled_not_fast/277368 *

* http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/64714116.html *

* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2067949/Pan-Am-star-Karine-Vanasse-says-cancelled--tweeting-u-turn.html *

Richard Dower · 22-12-2011 5:00pm

Mini catchup last night, watched ep. 8/9....wow @ ep. 8, poor Henry!....shocked and stunned they just left his body on the runway, in a foreign country, no dignity or burial :eek:

Ep. 9 was all very shippy and lovey dovey, Dean+Colette = barn sex!

Laura+Ted = so close!, Laura's eyes nearly popped outta her head when she heard all the lovely things Ted said about her.....i really liked both eps.

I like the romance and the cheesy drama, it looks amazing, likeable characters expect that horrid Maggie :mad:

Dunno....it warms my shipper heart this show

Nice cliffhanger ending with Kate, and a gun, and a struggle and a knife.

Richard Dower · 09-01-2012 7:14pm

LOL!...Ted in this ep. - zingers galore!, love Ted....Laura is now officially on board with shipping TeLaura

Dean you idiot!!!!! :rolleyes: - poor Colette

, snooty Bridgette comes back,throws some doe eyes and eejit Ted jumps into bed with her....still though, i kinda buy her and Ted more then Colette....dunno, part of me wants to have Col turn lesbo!!!!!

Kate, now officially onboard with the spy game....it was the usual mix of relationshippy stuff with added Kate spygame.....i love the show though

It's light and breezy, fun....looks great, nice characters [besides Maggie], some goods laughs from Ted, it's a shippers dream show.

Ratings..........

:(:(

RIP Pan Am, series low with a 1.3 demo, it's dead....Ted: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/09/tv-ratings-sunday-tebow-time-lifts-cbs-to-easy-win-the-firm-premieres-weakly-once-upon-a-time-shoots-up/115771/

Richard Dower · 17-01-2012 1:59am

Episode 11 was brutal!...very badly written and plotholes galore....i know it's not a realistic show and previous eps. were like swiss cheese anyways, but this was abnormally bad.
The Ted proposal was just shoehorned in, not given any weight....then Amanda kisses Maggie, lol!....lesbo subplot added, great [not]

Bloody Bridgette, the sneaky smile on her face when she saw Dean and Colette break up....she makes my blood boil!, ugh....two episodes left, i expect cliffhangers and zero resolutions in the finale.

expectationlost · 23-01-2012 10:06am

they seem to be airing an episode out of order, confused think wait for next weeks see if it makes sense then

SerialComplaint · 23-01-2012 9:08pm

expectationlost wrote: »

they seem to be airing an episode out of order,

What station are you watching it on?

FouxDaFaFa · 13-02-2012 11:40pm

Last night's episode was aired out of order. As a result, it was extremely confusing. Not even one or two eps out of order, this thing should have been aired months ago.
I was wondering why they would do this but as the episode progressed I guessed it had to be that the producers saw the final product and realised it was terrible. Then, decided not to air it as a means of quality control.

It was laughably bad in places where you really shouldn't have been laughing with one or two absolutely insane moments. I've never yelled "what the FCUK?!" while watching Pan Am before; last night it happened twice. If you do watch it, enjoy the creepiest child actor in existence. *shudder*

Hilariously, I went on to Pan Am's official Twitter to get their take on it and they were banging on about their "new" episode.

Kiwi_knock · 14-02-2012 12:05am

It was a very confusing episode, was really meant to be the seventh episode according to Wikipedia. I can not understand why they decided to show it now, it really did nothing for the show. I have to agree the child was pretty creepy, how did he get into her bedroom. It was a complete waste of an episode, I was looking forward to the aftermath of the JFK assassination but I have to wait till next week for that.

Richard Dower · 18-02-2012 5:12pm

They fecked up the production order!....you need to watch 1x14 first then 1x13.....meh, final ever episode 2nite, no hope of renewal. RIP.

SerialComplaint · 18-02-2012 9:13pm

Richard Dower wrote: »

They fecked up the production order!....you need to watch 1x14 first then 1x13.....meh, final ever episode 2nite, no hope of renewal. RIP.

What station are you guys watching it on?

edellc · 18-02-2012 10:53pm

i'm watching it on bbc2 and I must say I love it, love the story love the music love the acting truly superb hope it gets renewed

Richard Dower · 20-02-2012 2:35am

Final ever episode of Pan Am is out now....goodbye old timers

tinkerbell · 20-02-2012 5:18pm

has it been renewed for a 2nd season??? LOVE Pan Am!!

Richard Dower · 20-02-2012 5:24pm

tinkerbell wrote: »

has it been renewed for a 2nd season??? LOVE Pan Am!!

Pan Am is cancelled Tinkerbell.......

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/20/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-steady-abc-fox-recover-a-bit-celebrity-apprentice-amazing-race-premiere/120735/comment-page-2/#comment-1088102

Pan Am [ABC - SPOILERS]

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