Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

Bounty Hunter · 28-04-2012 2:03pm #1

These are the last 3 posts in the Liverpool thread on last reading

4-age wrote: »

Yeah Japanese press reporting that Kagawa has been offered a contract by united.

Really hope he doesn't go.

amiable wrote: »

Rumours that Man City are close to a deal for Eden Hazard too

amiable wrote: »

Chelsea website confirm Marin will sign

add that to Arsenal supposidly already having the Podolski deal done for around 10m and it seems clubs are getting started early this year. Any other deals rumoured to be already done?

ricero · 28-04-2012 2:11pm

with the euros in june i am not surprised clubs are starting early in their summer signings. prices will be inflated after the tournament depending who has a good campaign.

speedboatchase · 28-04-2012 2:36pm

Montolivo is joining Milan on a free transfer, right? Also Bayern have signed M'gladbach defender Dante and it appears as though they're getting veteran striker Claudio Pizarro from Werder Bremen.

Can see M'Vila being snapped up by Arsenal or Inter before the tournament starts and Barcelona going for Thiago Silva.

Aside from that, I think PSG will be busy and Juve will certainly splash out €20m+ on a striker

eh i dunno · 28-04-2012 2:37pm

Talk of Everton making a bid for Clint Dempsey. Be a great signing but doubt we have the cash

Ganymede Glow · 28-04-2012 2:41pm

Talk of Liverpool being the unamed English club who have put £16m on the table for Uruguayan midfielder Gaston Ramirez

GavRedKing · 28-04-2012 2:42pm

Happy with marin for chelsea.

Frisbee · 28-04-2012 4:18pm

I'd like to see us get Kagawa as well as Podolski (which is pretty much done tbh). We need much better quality in the front 4.

Selling Gervinho to D.I.D. as a 90,000w bulb would be nice too.

Pinturicchio · 28-04-2012 5:11pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

Montolivo is joining Milan on a free transfer, right? Also Bayern have signed M'gladbach defender Dante and it appears as though they're getting veteran striker Claudio Pizarro from Werder Bremen.

Can see M'Vila being snapped up by Arsenal or Inter before the tournament starts and Barcelona going for Thiago Silva.

Aside from that, I think PSG will be busy and Juve will certainly splash out €20m+ on a striker

Juve will unsuccesfully bid for Cavani and van Persie. It's hard to see who they will be able to get who is good enough.

Sir Gallagher · 28-04-2012 5:15pm

Liverpool have put a 40m deposit on Grant Holt.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 28-04-2012 5:16pm

Jordi Alba will be a Barca player before the Euro's me thinks, also if Spurs don't get top 4, or CL football (which looks very likely considering everything), then I'd fancy them to make a bid for Bale. Modric will probably be gone too, where though is the question. If Chelsea get CL football then they'd have to be favouites, otherwise United are in with a shout.

That_Guy · 28-04-2012 5:16pm

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Liverpool have put a 40m deposit on Grant Holt.

Worth every penny.

pickarooney · 29-04-2012 10:18am

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Juve will unsuccesfully bid for Cavani and van Persie. It's hard to see who they will be able to get who is good enough.

Edin Dzeko?

kitakyushu · 29-04-2012 10:50am

That_Guy wrote: »

Worth every penny.

Yep, worth his weight in gold (and that's a lot of gold).

Lawrence1895 · 29-04-2012 12:53pm

I hope, Kagawa stays with Borussia Dortmund. But no update yet from Germany about this matter.

Samich · 29-04-2012 1:08pm

Marin is a quality player!

Lawrence1895 · 29-04-2012 1:25pm

Just reading there on a German website, that Kagawa is not looking for a new contract, but that he has not signed somewhere else either. Everything hanging in the balance in the moment, but I won't be happy, if he is leaving Borussia Dortmund

ShaneU · 29-04-2012 2:22pm

Raphael Honigstein twitter:

Borussia Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc: Kagawa likely to leave the club.

Kagawa: United have reportedly offered him GBP 96k per week, doubling Dortmund's offer. Not sure I believe that figure though.

more Zorc: Kagawa's rejection of new contract makes selling him unavoidable (I'm paraphrasing)

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 2:27pm

Lars1916 wrote: »

Just reading there on a German website, that Kagawa is not looking for a new contract, but that he has not signed somewhere else either. Everything hanging in the balance in the moment, but I won't be happy, if he is leaving Borussia Dortmund

It's sickening tbf.

Laika1986 · 29-04-2012 2:30pm

Samich wrote: »

Marin is a quality player!

Meant to be a bit of hassle in the dressing room if the rumours are right, still 7m is some value!

Liverpool will go for Soldado

Oat23 · 29-04-2012 2:37pm

Samich wrote: »

Marin is a quality player!

No he's not.

NIMAN · 29-04-2012 2:50pm

This is all just transfer gossip, most of it will turn out to be wrong.

Glico Man · 29-04-2012 3:24pm

Oatesy23 wrote: »

No he's not.

He's a decent player... I was harping on about him for ages hoping he would go to Liverpool after we were linked during Rafa's days, but he's stagnated at Bremen the last year and a half. Hoped he would take his talent to the next level but hasn't. Seems he's happy being the player he is, occasional flashes of brilliance before fading for weeks on end. Like Kess said in the LFC superthread, he doesn't look like he has the heart a lot of the time.

ScummyMan · 29-04-2012 3:29pm

-Ade- wrote: »

It's sickening tbf.

I havent seen much of him tbh, how good/potentially good is he?
Should we believe the hype?

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 3:33pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Talk of Everton making a bid for Clint Dempsey. Be a great signing but doubt we have the cash

ye dont need Jack Rodwell. if chelsea come in with a big of around 20million, ye should bite their hands off. would ye get Dempsey and maybe 2 low cost signings like Gibson and Jelavic for 20-25million?

Oat23 · 29-04-2012 3:35pm

aaronh007 wrote: »

He's a decent player... I was harping on about him for ages hoping he would go to Liverpool after we were linked during Rafa's days, but he's stagnated at Bremen the last year and a half. Hoped he would take his talent to the next level but hasn't. Seems he's happy being the player he is, occasional flashes of brilliance before fading for weeks on end. Like Kess said in the LFC superthread, he doesn't look like he has the heart a lot of the time.

If I was a player I'd be on the phone to his agent hiring him really! He plays sh*t yet moves to a bigger team on more money for €8m.

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

I havent seen much of him tbh, how good/potentially good is he?
Should we believe the hype?

Not much hype about him. He is a quality player, not overrated at all. It will be interesting to see how he does in a more physical league.

shadowcomplex · 29-04-2012 3:38pm

How good is Kagawa, he must be decent if he scores a goal ever 2 games and wins the league with Borussia but if you united sign him they wont solve there midfield problems, he seems to play just behind a sole striker, United should go for M;Vila or Martinez aswell, which of those two are better?

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 3:41pm

NIMAN wrote: »

This is all just transfer gossip, most of it will turn out to be wrong.

i agree that there is some amount of s*it wrote in papers around transfers, but just because something doesnt happen, it doesnt mean its not true. just depends on the source and who is writing the article really.

G.K. · 29-04-2012 3:41pm

They solve different problems.

I'd say Martinez is better but there's nothing in it really.

Turtyturd · 29-04-2012 3:45pm

Without disrespecting Everton fans, wouldn't Fulham to Everton be a sideways step for Dempsey, surely if he moves it will be to a bigger club?

shadowcomplex · 29-04-2012 3:46pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

Without disrespecting Everton fans, wouldn't Fulham to Everton be a sideways step for Dempsey, surely if he moves it will be to a bigger club?

That rules Liverpool out too

Lawrence1895 · 29-04-2012 3:46pm

ShaneU wrote: »

Raphael Honigstein twitter:

Borussia Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc: Kagawa likely to leave the club.

Kagawa: United have reportedly offered him GBP 96k per week, doubling Dortmund's offer. Not sure I believe that figure though.

more Zorc: Kagawa's rejection of new contract makes selling him unavoidable (I'm paraphrasing)

That's just because his current contract expires in 2013, with the possibility that he might leave on a free transfer, if he would stay another year in Dortmund.

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 3:47pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

Without disrespecting Everton fans, wouldn't Fulham to Everton be a sideways step for Dempsey, surely if he moves it will be to a bigger club?

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

CSF · 29-04-2012 3:52pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

Turtyturd · 29-04-2012 3:53pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

That rules Liverpool out too

Well done you *slow clap*. :rolleyes:

Hank Scorpio · 29-04-2012 3:55pm

Seen an interview with Bale saying he can't guarentee his future at Spurs if they miss out on the CL this season, will be interestin to see if himself and Modric hang about if they miss out on it

Turtyturd · 29-04-2012 3:55pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

Read this ffs, same goes for numerous clubs ffs.

CSF wrote: »

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

Adolf Hipster · 29-04-2012 5:25pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

Read this ffs, same goes for numerous clubs ffs.

CSF wrote: »

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

How about you read homers post ffs?

He never said it was an upwards move ffs, he said everton are a bigger club than fulham ffs.

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 5:35pm

G.K. wrote: »

They solve different problems.

I'd say Martinez is better but there's nothing in it really.

Martinez is a super player and IMO, exactly what United need. Defensive minded, but absolutely gifted on the Ball. i dont think however, united would be an attractive proposition for him.

will he and Munian be in the Spanish squad for the euros? I also really like the look of Iteraspe from Bilbao also...he probably would cost alot less than Martinez.

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 6:13pm

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

I havent seen much of him tbh, how good/potentially good is he?
Should we believe the hype?

Think I've talked about him a few times already in the United thread, amongst the Bundesliga and Liverpool thread. But to answer your Q here..

I've been pulling the Kagawa bandwagon for 2 seasons now from the gambling forum to here in the soccer forum

He's an excellent, very intelligent footballer and is capable of improving even more. He is far more talented than the good but very much overhyped fellow countryman, Honda at CSKA. I rate him very highly if it wasn't already obvious(!) and the reported fees being brandied about is a steal even if he does have a year left on his contract. I've very little doubts he'll be an valuable player for whatever club he does end up, I just hope it's not United. If I'm honest, if I were a United fan I'd be wanting a Martinez, M'Vila, Belhanda, etc instead of him. An attacking midfielder however good he is, is not what is needed going from what I've seen myself and heard of other United supporters.

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 7:00pm

-Ade- wrote: »

Think I've talked about him a few times already in the United thread, amongst the Bundesliga and Liverpool thread. But to answer your Q here..

I've been pulling the Kagawa bandwagon for 2 seasons now from the gambling forum to here in the soccer forum He's an excellent, very intelligent footballer and is capable of improving even more. He is far more talented than the good but very much overhyped fellow countryman, Honda at CSKA. I rate him very highly if it wasn't already obvious(!) and the reported fees being brandied about is a steal even if he does have a year left on his contract. I've very little doubts he'll be an valuable player for whatever club he does end up, I just hope it's not United. If I'm honest, if I were a United fan I'd be wanting a Martinez, M'Vila, Belhanda, etc instead of him. An attacking midfielder however good he is, is not what is needed going from what I've seen myself and heard of other United supporters.

a creative midfielder is first priority. look at the difference scholes has made since he came back for instance, before that united were flat and playhing awful football for 5 months apart from 3 or 4 games.

what do you class scholes as, in relation to Kagawa, are they a similar type of player, or completely different?

to be honest, united need somebody like Martinez AND an attacking midfielder. also, why do you say you hope its not united, do you think he is not good enought?

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 7:18pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

a creative midfielder is first priority. look at the difference scholes has made since he came back for instance, before that united were flat and playhing awful football for 5 months apart from 3 or 4 games.

what do you class scholes as, in relation to Kagawa, are they a similar type of player, or completely different?

to be honest, united need somebody like Martinez AND an attacking midfielder. also, why do you say you hope its not united, do you think he is not good enought?

Kagawa is an attacking midfielder or a support striker at a push if you will depending on the formation. Anywhere else played is wasted IMHO. He could probably do a job out on the wings if need be but his influence is there for all to see when he has a free role from the middle, be it drifting out to either wing, coming short to pick up the ball or even playing as a false No.9 at times.

If Kagawa played CM with a defined role that from what I've seen some in the United thread are guessing he might do, watch him be overrun. He's isn't great defensively and at times is quite lazy ie: letting players drift past him without picking up the run or not bothering with a challenge. That's probably my main flaw regarding him.

Scholes is a CM, pure and simple. But, he can play other roles too if need be even despite the age.

As for the last part, I'am a Liverpool supporter too

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 9:29pm

Vieira is at the PSG - Lille game on at the moment, there watching Hazard.

greendom · 29-04-2012 9:48pm

Hazard's price is going up with every game he plays at the moment. After going a goal behind to PSG he scored the equalising penalty and then set up the second to put Lille 2 -1 in front.

EDIT ;Bit of a show off tbh... ;D

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/eden-hazard-rabona-cross-sets-up-late-nolan-roux-winner-for-lille-v-psg/

Fromthetrees · 29-04-2012 11:50pm

Liverpool only have 20 million to spend on transfers this summer according to ESPN today so that rules out Grant Holt.

Sappy404 · 30-04-2012 8:32am

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Liverpool only have 20 million to spend on transfers this summer

That might be the case, but FSG are very prudent and will factor in things like the wages that Maxi, Cole, Aquilani and Kuyt etc. are on if sold. They are all high earners so we're not talking pocket money. They'll look at money saved over the course of those contracts and will likely see fit to invest further this summer if it means saving money long-term.

ShaneU · 30-04-2012 1:14pm

Podolski to Arsenal confirmed http://www.fc-koeln.de/news/detailansicht/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4813&cHash=798324b1a22697bd2852832f171c8384

Fromthetrees · 30-04-2012 1:21pm

Sappy404 wrote: »

That might be the case, but FSG are very prudent and will factor in things like the wages that Maxi, Cole, Aquilani and Kuyt etc. are on if sold. They are all high earners so we're not talking pocket money. They'll look at money saved over the course of those contracts and will likely see fit to invest further this summer if it means saving money long-term.

Yeah and I'd assume whatever money they get from selling on any player during the summer can be reinvested, topping up that 20 million.

Oat23 · 30-04-2012 1:43pm

ShaneU wrote: »

Podolski to Arsenal confirmed http://www.fc-koeln.de/news/detailansicht/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4813&cHash=798324b1a22697bd2852832f171c8384

Why would they do this now? They have a huge game at the weekend and I'm sure their fans feel sh*tty enough as it is. Some stupid people working at that club.

pickarooney · 30-04-2012 2:06pm

Any chance of Lucien Favre getting a big name job?

Turtyturd · 30-04-2012 2:08pm

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Why would they do this now? They have a huge game at the weekend and I'm sure their fans feel sh*tty enough as it is. Some stupid people working at that club.

I dunno how the club are doing but would the announcement take some heat of the club itself?

Would have loved the have seen Podolski at Liverpool, best of luck to him filling Van Persies boots.

That_Guy · 30-04-2012 2:08pm

Appparently we've signed a 22 year old called Romain Amilfitano from Remis who are a Ligue 2 outfit.

Have no clue about him at all. Found this video on YouTube though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E57xyXD4qsQ

Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

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