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Low electricity users hit with extra charge

  • 27-02-2012 10:32am
    #1
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭


    Wtf? All to line the pockets of an overpaid ESB. Guess the mild winter has hit ESB profits hard, they had to find out a way to punish users who do try to cut their bills :mad:
    Electric Ireland has set another charge on more than 100,000 householders because they are not using a lot of electricity.

    A new 'low user standing charge' came into effect on February 1 targeting customers who use an average of two units or less per day.

    According to the Irish Times, their bills will increase by 15.5 cent per day - that is €9.45 in a two-monthly bill.

    Householders have been told about the increase in bill inserts in the past fortnight.

    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/low-electricity-users-hit-with-extra-charge-541340.html#ixzz1nZZw69IN


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Comments

  • #2
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    More details here: http://www.thejournal.ie/energy-customers-face-minimum-charge-for-not-using-enough-electricity-366894-Feb2012/

    Its a bit much by them.
    They try and give good reason for it but frankly as the saying goes "It leaves a bad taste in the mouth".


  • #3
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    it will be mostly 2nd homes or holiday homes effected, it's almost impossible to live on less than 2 units a day in a property


  • #4
    silly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭silly


    When is this sh1t going to end...


  • #5
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Just fit a timer that will switch something on for a few minutes a day.


  • #6
    Caveman1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Only in Ireland


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  • #7
    Nothingbetter2d
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    switch electricity provider.


  • #8
    Jesus Shaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Nothingbetter2d wrote: »
    switch electricity provider.

    Exactly, No point complaining and then doing nothing about it.


  • #9
    pcardin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Rip-off Ireland :mad:


  • #10
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Nothingbetter2d wrote: »
    switch electricity provider.

    Exactly. If a phone company or any other service provider put up their charges would their be a thread about it?
    Change provider and stop moaning


  • #11
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    the groutch wrote: »
    it will be mostly 2nd homes or holiday homes effected, it's almost impossible to live on less than 2 units a day in a property

    Yeah but there are no sensationalist headlines if that point is emphasised


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  • #12
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    It's really the mad house, isn't it?

    Lower your carbon footprint by using less electricity and we'll charge you more anyway.

    Don't use a toll road and we'll pay the company to mind and empty road.

    I'm sure there are more.


  • #13
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    It reminds me of Ryanair and their debit cards!
    Use it enough and supposedly you don't get charged for possession of it - don't use it as much and you do get charged.
    My point is that sadly if Ryanair can do this type of thing - the prospect of ESB being stopped from doing something somewhat similar, will be low.


  • #14
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,107 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I think the ESB solved the problem for me by connecting my meter to ten houses and a factory, so I'll never be charged over the odds for using too little.


  • #15
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I think the ESB solved the problem for me by connecting my meter to ten houses and a factory, so I'll never be charged over the odds for using too little.

    You too! :(


  • #16
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,107 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Biggins wrote: »
    You too! :(

    Yeh:(


  • #17
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Bord Gais Energy will no doubt follow once any low users who are pissed off move over.


  • #18
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Looks like the mandarins in the ESB have appointed themselves as revenue commissioners now. Those €3000 "getting married" bonuses aren't going to pay themselves you know.


  • #19
    Bad Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Just fit a timer that will switch something on for a few minutes a day.

    The point is you shouldn't fcuking have to!

    Ridiculous. Sooner I'm out of here the better! :mad:


  • #20
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    The point is you shouldn't fcuking have to!

    True!


  • #21
    Dubit10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Dubit10


    Lol you really could'nt make this stuff up. What a banana republic. That said we deserve it for having fck all backbone as a people.


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  • #22
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Dubit10 wrote: »
    Lol you really could'nt make this stuff up. What a banana republic. That said we deserve it for having fck all backbone as a people.

    Some are afraid to show they have a backbone - they fear our government might next, tax that too!


  • #23
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    2 units per day is possible if you use gas to cook and wood stove to heat the house (or other heating system that doesnt require a pump or a boiler that uses electricity).

    In the summer somedays there is definitely no reason why id use more than 2 units


  • #24
    Priori
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Priori


    Piss poor decision by ESB/Electric Ireland. It's as if they're trying to push customers away so that they keep below the 60% market share (go above that and they'll be regulated again).

    At the very least the threshold should be lower - 122kWhs per billing period could be clocked up by somebody very energy efficient.

    If you're caught out by the charge, switch supplier. Really hope this doesn't open the gate for the other suppliers to follow suit and introduce a low user charge of their own.

    Wouldn't be surprised though.


  • #25
    facemelter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭facemelter


    In fairness to the ESB fuel is getting more and more expensive , and they comsume massive amouts compared to every day use , they've already slashed their workers pensions and pay. its not like your getting the worse deal out of everyone effect by them try to save money


  • #26
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Its a scandalous decision by a scandalous company..


  • #27
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    charlemont wrote: »
    Its a scandalous decision by a scandalous company..

    And the same company now employs a foreign thug company to sort out its customer debts.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/latest-news/esb-uses-uk-debt-collectors-as-130000-in-arrears-on-bills-3029085.html


  • #28
    Gurgle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    the groutch wrote: »
    it will be mostly 2nd homes or holiday homes effected
    Even if true, why is this relevant?
    2nd home / holiday home owners should be taxed accordingly by government.
    They're already paying the standing charge for a service they rarely use, I see no possible justification for billing them extra for not using it.


  • #29
    booboo88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    gbee wrote: »
    It's really the mad house, isn't it?

    Lower your carbon footprint by using less electricity and we'll charge you more anyway.

    Don't use a toll road and we'll pay the company to mind and empty road.

    I'm sure there are more.
    Its for the people who use less thqn 2units a day
    eth0 wrote: »
    2 units per day is possible if you use gas to cook and wood stove to heat the house (or other heating system that doesnt require a pump or a boiler that uses electricity).

    In the summer somedays there is definitely no reason why id use more than 2 units
    Are actually for real? So the pc/laptop you have plugged in while on boards wont use any electricity, nor the charger for your phone, Im assuming you dont shower or wash your clothes,like, ever:rolleyes:
    Why do people always assume its just the heating/cooking/lighting that uses leccy


  • #30
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    The issue is that these fúckers provide the electricity to the other suppliers so they'll never go out of business.


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  • #31
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    facemelter wrote: »
    In fairness to the ESB fuel is getting more and more expensive , and they comsume massive amouts compared to every day use , they've already slashed their workers pensions and pay. its not like your getting the worse deal out of everyone effect by them try to save money

    So what they do about it is encourage people to use more electricity so they have to burn more fuel?

    Priori wrote: »
    Piss poor decision by ESB/Electric Ireland. It's as if they're trying to push customers away so that they keep below the 60% market share (go above that and they'll be regulated again).

    At the very least the threshold should be lower - 122kWhs per billing period could be clocked up by somebody very energy efficient.

    If you're caught out by the charge, switch supplier. Really hope this doesn't open the gate for the other suppliers to follow suit and introduce a low user charge of their own.

    Wouldn't be surprised though.

    I'd say all the other companies are writing their low usage charge now. They probably see low usage customers as unprofitable and prefer some other company looks after them.


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