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Game of Thrones [HBO & Sky Atlantic] **Spoilers** (Read Warning Post #1)

  • 14-05-2010 9:48am
    #1
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,030 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    This thread shall be used to discuss the Game of Thrones TV series as it airs on HBO & Sky Atlantic.

    Since HBO shows it roughly 24 hours before Sky Atlantic, you are warned that from late Sunday night / early Monday morning, discussion will take place on the latest episode (which will then be shown the following night on Sky Atlantic).

    If you're watching on Sky Atlantic, you are advised to do both these things:

    - avoid the thread from late Sunday night until after it's airing on Sky Atlantic on Monday at 9pm
    - turn off e-mail notification on this thread by clicking here, checking the box beside this thread, check 'No email notification' in the combo-box at the bottom, and then click the 'Go' button - as shown below:

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    Also bear in mind, this is to discuss the TV series fresh. You should take it for granted that people commenting on this thread HAVE NOT read the books. If you have read the book and wish to talk about how it compares to the book (etc), please use this thread in Sci-Fi & Fantasy.

    Standard rules with regards to using spoiler tags when referring to future episodes / material shown in promos etc.


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  • #2
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Kicks off tonight, lots of buzz about....will it be the new True Blood for HBO and garner Walking Dead numbers? :)

    Is it too complex and littered with hard to pronounce characters? :(
    Will HBO renew it on Monday after just one ep. ? [my guess is yes]
    We'll soon find out...........................


  • #3
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Looking forward to watching it. Never read the books but appreciate this kind of show.


  • #4
    vard
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭vard


    Looking forward to it.

    A good friend of mine plays the leading character of samwell.


  • #5
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,534 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    We have decided that its probably best to have a new thread for the episode discussion. I've locked the old thread.


  • #6
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,030 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    It's been pretty much off my TV radar for months..

    .. but have it Sky+'d and series-linked for Sky Atlantic tomorrow night.


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  • #7
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Better visual quality, able to appreciate the visual spectacle better...in HD!

    So i watched the first ep. - and it IS an adult version of LOTR!!!....the opening credits are epic, but i'm sure i've seen that style somewhere else before?

    Even the credits have a firey eye of Mordor!, you've got a map with weird names...just like LOTR!, it's a fantasy show and novel, much the same as LOTR....just with swearing and nudity.

    Then we have a brother shagging his sister, wolves, large cast, multiple story arcs, thrones, cities in various lush locales.....so yeah, it's a bloody adult version of LOTR!!!

    ^ that part of my review is just for fun i'll now write a proper review, but for someone to tell ME it ain't an adult LOTR is pathetic!...and let me clarify, i'm saying it's LOTR-esque, as in an epic fantasy, but with boobs and sex.


    *********************************************************************

    Right, hugely impressive from alot of aspects, one thing i appreciate is there is alot of practial sets, it's not a bluescreen, visually it looks superb. It's a BIG show...from extras to locations, sets. Technically it's smells like a megabucks production, it certainly has an epic feel to it.

    I can't really fault the first ep., solid acting from almost all, and thankfully despite the large cast it's not too hard to follow. I know nothing about the source material, i'm looking at this show as a novice and judging it as a TELEVISION show and not from a fanboy who knows every line of every book and spends countless hours diiging deep into the mythos.

    Very solid start, pacing is not an issue for me, was never bored....it's establishing itself and this big fantasy world and it's characters and locals, i don't have anything negative to say about the first ep.

    But i wonder, what is The Wall for?, what is beyond it?, why is it 700ft high?...and The Rangers guard this wall?

    4.8/5

    http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/game-of-thrones-season-1-episode-1/

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/17/game-of-thrones-sex/

    http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/04/18/game-of-thrones-episode-1/

    http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20470532,00.html


  • #8
    Wreck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Can't wait to get home and watch this.


  • #9
    KingEnda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭KingEnda


    Pringles and beer ready for tonight. I'm looking forward to this show with the same anticipation as a first date
    Hope it lives up to the hype


  • #10
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is the pilot episode 2 hours long?

    I will try and check out tonight on Sky Atlantic
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #11
    Lirange
    Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    I wasn't that impressed with the first episode. The best bits were the opening credits and any scene involving Tyrion the Dwarf. I did like the House of Stark and how the characters of the family were cast. However the same can't be said for the inbreeding Lannisters. Lots of T&A but bordering on gratuitous in a few places.

    Bran and Arya are great. Although apart from just being a dim little plank Sansa was annoying. Sean Bean was solid as Eddard as was the actor that plays Snow. Joffrey and Sansa, a decidedly hive inducing pairing for many reasons. Joffrey is inbred what's her excuse? Headey is a listless monotone actress. She was always the primary weak point of TSCC where she was even out acted by Shirley Manson playing a robot.

    Meanwhile over at Penthouse er Pentos we have scenes that were totally at odds in terms of feel and film making from the rest apart from the obligatory T&A. The scenes with Viserys, Daenerys, and Drogo seemed like they were from a cheap Vaudeville set. Drogo was like a wannabe Genghis Khan early Hollywood exploitation character. I thought these scenes were ridiculous. Although admittedly "there is no word in Dothraki for thank you" was good for a laugh. The giant colourful avocados were supposed to be petrified Dragon Eggs? There was a bizarre shift in tonality back in Winterfell like the show was trying to be semi serious again. I know this is a fantasy tale but they really could've done better here. But admittedly Viserys as the brother pimp was glorious in his pantomime villainry. Like a more effete version of Julian Sands only more annoying. It's good to have the bad people be annoying as well as evil that way we don't feel conflicted.

    The absolute moral of the story is that people with bad overbleached dye jobs are evil. I think it's racist against blonde people! Wait blonde people aren't a race. Nevermind. But notice they hate blondes so much they won't even pay real ones to play them. :pac:


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  • #12
    Venom
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    Lirange wrote: »
    Headey is a listless monotone actress. She was always the primary weak point of TSCC where she was even out acted by Shirley Manson playing a robot.

    The moment she appeared onscreen I though "ah crap" to myself as she is a huge weak spot in the cast imho.

    Loved the rest of the episode tho :)


  • #13
    T-b0n3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭T-b0n3


    Really looking forward to watching this tonight. Know nothing about it really, never read the books (or even heard of them before today) so hopefully I'll like it. HBO rarley disappoints, so lets hope it continues as such.


  • #14
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i enjoyed mainly due to the fact that im a huge sean bean fan hes a fantastic actor. it was a solid and very entertaining first episode and is better than half the ****e being produced these days.
    also the "dave" from the "Full Monthy" is the king i love it :D


  • #15
    Branoic
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    So are we talking Spartacus levels of gratuitous t&a or not that bad? I'm a massive fan of the books and don't remember *that* much sex. Thing is, the missus had an absolute fit after an episode of Spartacus and that show was banned from the house :D Little bit nervous this will be the same but I really hope not as the books were not like that.


  • #16
    Lirange
    Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    Branoic wrote: »
    So are we talking Spartacus levels of gratuitous t&a or not that bad? I'm a massive fan of the books and don't remember *that* much sex. Thing is, the missus had an absolute fit after an episode of Spartacus and that show was banned from the house :D Little bit nervous this will be the same but I really hope not as the books were not like that.

    Well going off of the first eppy you could have a dilemma on your hands. :P


  • #17
    RVD420
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    Just finished the pilot, hugely impressed. Excellent pace, characters and story. And the ending.... :eek: Already counting down the hours till ep 2.


  • #18
    Tusky
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    Just watched first episode and thought it was brilliant. I've read the books and they have really got the tone and setting spot on. Really looking forward to episode two now.

    Does anyone know how it did ratings wise in the States ?


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    Tusky wrote: »
    Just watched first episode and thought it was brilliant. I've read the books and they have really got the tone and setting spot on. Really looking forward to episode two now.

    Does anyone know how it did ratings wise in the States ?

    HBO have pretty much announced today that a second season is pretty much guaranteed. Ratings were good but as HBO is subscription based the weekly ratings will be nowhere near as important as for network shows. Id also imagine that Sky paid a small fortune for the rights as did numerous other channels around the world so it's pretty much a very that Game of Thrones will be with us for a few years to come.


  • #20
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,030 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    HBO have said they won't reveal it's official ratings until tomorrow but early indicators are ratings were far from stellar..

    .. it's cable though so it's worth dick all really!

    But it doesn't look like a cheap series to make either, so I'd be hoping for better numbers than this.


  • #21
    Tusky
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    Basq wrote: »
    HBO have said they won't reveal it's official ratings until tomorrow but early indicators are ratings were far from stellar..

    .. it's cable though so it's worth dick all really!

    But it doesn't look like a cheap series to make either, so I'd be hoping for better numbers than this.

    Those figures look quite good to me - Boardwalk empire broke records didnt it ? So comparing it to that is maybe a little unfair..although they probably have similarly massive budgets. I reckon the overnight viewing figures will be around 4m which is v.good.


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
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    Basq wrote: »
    HBO have said they won't reveal it's official ratings until tomorrow but early indicators are ratings were far from stellar..

    .. it's cable though so it's worth dick all really!

    But it doesn't look like a cheap series to make either, so I'd be hoping for better numbers than this.

    The budget is rumoured to be around the 60 million per season mark but I would imagine that a most if not all the figure was easily recouped in international sales.


  • #23
    emrys
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭emrys


    great start to series - makes me want to dig the books out again!


  • #24
    Outkast_IRE
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    excellent first episode , was really impressed .
    Cant wait for episode 2


  • #25
    SK1979
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    Really enjoyed that first episode. Could nit pick at some of the castings but the overall epic feel more than made up for it.

    Bean has a great presence and Peter Dinkage has already stole the series (he's the best character in the books anyway!). :)


  • #26
    Kiwi_knock
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    Never read the books so really did not know what to expect. Thought it was ok, weak in points but I think that was due to the fact so many characters had to be introduced. Has potential anyway to be a good series.


  • #27
    T-b0n3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭T-b0n3


    Really enjoyed it, looking forward to next weeks. Visually it was great and the cast were brilliant (for the most part anyway). Seems like a show I could really get into.


  • #28
    pixelburp
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    I watched it, and like most pilots I have no idea what to make of it yet; you really need to give a show 2/3 episodes before getting it's tone & pulse. As a hour of introductions goes though, it was quite entertaining & knitted some interesting mysteries. I have never read the books so can't comment about it's accuracy but it could be a grower ...


  • #29
    expectationlost
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    premise: the borgais and game of thrones are telling the same story

    the second faster and more explicit then the first


  • #30
    matrim
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    Good first episode. Sets the tone well and the casting and acting is good for the most part, although they seem to have taken a couple of liberties in the ages of people, but given the T&A on show they had to

    My only major complaint is it
    needs more Hordor


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  • #31
    jonsnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭jonsnow


    As my name might indicate I,m a GOT fan and have been since 99.Simply the greatest fantasy novels ever written and amongst the greatest fiction ever written.I despair of it ever been completed however although i understand that George r martin is not my witch.

    I,d watched the 14 minute preview twice already and enjoyed them.For a fanatic like me it is clear that the series will be quite different from the books.Already characters, events and the script has been changed but I like that because I will have two different experiences of the story.

    The first episode is solid with some gorgeous visuals and great acting.Most of the actors nail their characters.I had a few minor gripes.The feast scene at the wedding looked kinda crappy like their was only 30 extras.It looked like a xena episode not a raucous gathering of 40000 warriors.Why did the other leave the black bother live.Winterfell did not look as impressive as I would have imagined it could.But I,m nit picking.It was still very enjoyable especially as I was watching it with my brother who was completely shocked at the ending.Roll on next week.


  • #32
    calex71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    jonsnow wrote: »
    As my name might indicate I,m a GOT fan and have been since 99.Simply the greatest fantasy novels ever written and amongst the greatest fiction ever written.I despair of it ever been completed however although i understand that George r martin is not my witch.

    I,d watched the 14 minute preview twice already and enjoyed them.For a fanatic like me it is clear that the series will be quite different from the books.Already characters, events and the script has been changed but I like that because I will have two different experiences of the story.

    The first episode is solid with some gorgeous visuals and great acting.Most of the actors nail their characters.I had a few minor gripes.The feast scene at the wedding looked kinda crappy like their was only 30 extras.It looked like a xena episode not a raucous gathering of 40000 warriors.Why did the other leave the black bother live.Winterfell did not look as impressive as I would have imagined it could.But I,m nit picking.It was still very enjoyable especially as I was watching it with my brother who was completely shocked at the ending.Roll on next week.

    The books have been on my to do list for a while, are they as "adult" as the show , I don't mean the sex etc but over all ?

    From the start of the show I was constantly reminded of the elder scrolls :)


  • #33
    p1000
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    Enjoyed it. Lookin forward to more.


  • #34
    Orizio
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    expectationlost wrote: »
    premise: the borgais and game of thrones are telling the same story

    the second faster and more explicit then the first


    I haven't see The Borgias but this is quite a perceptive post - the world of the Borgias seems like a very big inspiration Martin's books, far more so then LOTR.


  • #35
    Orizio
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    calex71 wrote: »
    The books have been on my to do list for a while, are they as "adult" as the show , I don't mean the sex etc but over all ?

    From the start of the show I was constantly reminded of the elder scrolls :)

    Yes, probably more so.


  • #36
    merlie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭merlie


    I watched the first episode of GOT and although there were some good scenes, overall I generally thought it was ok. I was a bit disappointed by it there were not many actions scenes. The opening was great and then it seemed to dissipate some. I will continue to follow the series and see if it gets any better or slips into a darkened mire!

    I have watched The Tudors, The Borgias and The Pillars of the Earth. I wasn't interested in Spartacus as Gladiators and that time line don't really interest me. But having said that, I will say that the best series I have watched so far is The Tudors. IMO.


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  • #37
    JohnK
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    merlie wrote: »
    I watched the first episode of GOT and although there were some good scenes, overall I generally thought it was ok.

    I have to say that was my overall impression too, that it was only ok but nothing special. Being perfectly honest there was nothing I saw in the first episode that has me looking forward to the next one.


  • #38
    pixelburp
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    I have to say, having just finished Season 1 of Rome, if people are deeply troubled by the nudity of GoT, they'd be in for a shock at the brazen amount of nudity in HBO's previous epic. I haven't seen that many wangs since ... uhhh, never mind.

    In any case, I think people are too precious about these things. It's just breasts.


  • #39
    rocky
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    Not too sure about the first episode.

    It looks like it has a big budget, but the acting lets it down IMO. I expected more... enthusiasm, more intensity. It felt like they were reading lines in a script.

    Also... Why is Arya called Aia? Or did I not hear properly?

    Looking forward to next week's installment anyway :)


  • #40
    Skerries
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    did Sky cut any of it like they did with Spartacus and Deadwood?
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  • #41
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    rocky wrote: »
    Not too sure about the first episode.

    It looks like it has a big budget, but the acting lets it down IMO. I expected more... enthusiasm, more intensity. It felt like they were reading lines in a script.

    Also... Why is Arya called Aia? Or did I not hear properly?

    Looking forward to next week's installment anyway :)

    Pronounciation I think, she's still called Arya.

    I thought the acting was spot on.


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  • #42
    Richard Dower
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    Lirange wrote: »
    I wasn't that impressed with the first episode. The best bits were the opening credits and any scene involving Tyrion the Dwarf. I did like the House of Stark and how the characters of the family were cast. However the same can't be said for the inbreeding Lannisters. Lots of T&A but bordering on gratuitous in a few places.

    Bran and Arya are great. Although apart from just being a dim little plank Sansa was annoying. Sean Bean was solid as Eddard as was the actor that plays Snow. Joffrey and Sansa, a decidedly hive inducing pairing for many reasons. Joffrey is inbred what's her excuse? Headey is a listless monotone actress. She was always the primary weak point of TSCC where she was even out acted by Shirley Manson playing a robot.

    Meanwhile over at Penthouse er Pentos we have scenes that were totally at odds in terms of feel and film making from the rest apart from the obligatory T&A. The scenes with Viserys, Daenerys, and Drogo seemed like they were from a cheap Vaudeville set. Drogo was like a wannabe Genghis Khan early Hollywood exploitation character. I thought these scenes were ridiculous. Although admittedly "there is no word in Dothraki for thank you" was good for a laugh. The giant colourful avocados were supposed to be petrified Dragon Eggs? There was a bizarre shift in tonality back in Winterfell like the show was trying to be semi serious again. I know this is a fantasy tale but they really could've done better here. But admittedly Viserys as the brother pimp was glorious in his pantomime villainry. Like a more effete version of Julian Sands only more annoying. It's good to have the bad people be annoying as well as evil that way we don't feel conflicted.

    The absolute moral of the story is that people with bad overbleached dye jobs are evil. I think it's racist against blonde people! Wait blonde people aren't a race. Nevermind. But notice they hate blondes so much they won't even pay real ones to play them. :pac:

    Best review out of everyones...well done Lirange! :)


  • #43
    TwoShedsJackson
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    I liked it a lot. Lena Headey did fine as Cersei, she's not much of an actress but she can do that cold emotionless thing fairly well, like Arnie is best when he's playing a robot :)

    The opening credits are fantastic imo, gorgeous music and the clockwork/board theme works really well.


  • #44
    irish_stevo815
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    Finally I have something worth watching on telly other than Fringe, which is coming ot the Season finale pretty soon.

    I really enjoyed the first episode and it felt like i was watching a movie rather than a TV show. It really seemed to set up the different aspects of the story. I havent read the books so I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
    I LMFAO'd at the "imp" getting blown by the escort. Quiet a bit of sex/nude scenes in it, but they don't just seem to be thrown in for the sake of a bit of boob, it all ties in with the story telling. On a side note, that Lena Heady one certainly can take it ;)

    Lookin forward to next week!


  • #45
    calex71
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    My main problem with it was that I think it should have aired as a double episode to start off with. Would have allowed them to establish far more.


  • #46
    nickcave
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭nickcave


    calex71 wrote: »
    My main problem with it was that I think it should have aired as a double episode to start off with. Would have allowed them to establish far more.

    Agreed. I was disappointed with the rushed finish...


  • #47
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Momoa totally looks the part, i bet he's badass in a fight as well.
    Did anyone think the blonde twins were kinda like those twins from The Matrix Reloaded?

    :-)


  • #48
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Holy crap, it's only because you said it that I realise it's Ronan from Stargate Atlantis :D

    Also casted as Conan in the new adaptation of the Conan The Barbarian, which makes sense I guess.


  • #49
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Confirmed....GOT renewed for season 2!

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/19/hbo-renews-game-of-thrones-for-second-season-premiere-grossed-4-2-million-on-hbo-sunday-night/89922

    Ratings: The heavily hyped debut of Game of Thrones couldn’t come close to the premiere of HBO’s last big drama series, Boardwalk Empire, yet it still turned in a solid number Sunday night.

    The first episode delivered a decent 2.2 million viewers for its premiere airing, then a rather strong 1.2 million for its first encore (the NBA playoff game between the Celtics and Knicks might have pushed some viewership to the second airing), and another 800,000 for the third telecast for an overall healthy total of 4.2 million. HBO then aired Thrones six times across all its channels Monday night, and those numbers will be added to this post later today.

    Thrones first telecast was down 54 percent from the premiere of 2010′s Boardwalk (4.8 million) which received an immediate second season renewal. Yet HBO always takes into account what Sunday show was used to ramp up viewers to the new program’s premiere, and Thrones had a weak platform — Mildred Pierce, which averaged around 1 million viewers, a number Thrones more than doubled.

    What’s perhaps the closest ratings comparison to a fantasy series like Thrones is HBO’s other genre drama, True Blood. A prestigious crime drama Boardwalk is much more in the traditional HBO viewership wheelhouse. Compared to the vampire show, Thrones did really well. Blood only opened with 1.4 million viewers, and similarly had no real platform to launch from, but then went on to grow week after week into a major hit for the network.

    So what does all this mean for Thrones? The premiere number is good, not great. HBO would have loved for the first airing of Thrones to have been in the 3 million range, but will definitely take anything in the 2s. The next question: How many viewers will stick around next week?

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-premiere-ratings/


  • #50
    rocky
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    Watched it again with better speakers, still only hear 'Aya', no 'Arya'... I guess GRRM advised them on how to pronounce it. I'll get over it.


  • #51
    Mr Freeze
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    I thought it was excellent!

    Can't wait for the next episode.

    Away on holidays next week, was tempted to try get the book before I go, but I might end up spoiling the show slightly if I do that.


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