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Dublin school expels 4 pupils for 'disparaging Facebook comments'

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  • #2
    Shane-KornSpace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Shane-KornSpace


    Too harsh?

    No.

    These little ****s need to learn that cyber bullying (and any other form of bullying) is not ****ing funny.
    As a victim of years of bullying, I can say that that was the least they deserved.


  • #3
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Depends on what exactly was written, but online bullying shouldn't be tolerated either against students or teachers, imo.

    Setting up a specific page to target these teachers was an especially stupid and malicious thing to do anyway.


  • #4
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Not harsh at all.

    What they need to realise/now realise is that what you say on social media should be viewed as saying the same things to a crowd of people with a microphone.


  • #5
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    davet82 wrote: »
    http://www.schooldays.ie/education-news-item/School-expels-4-pupils-for-disparaging-Facebook-comments-801365067

    Too harsh maybe?

    Were the teacher couple really at it though is the question?

    Although as read setting up said page with the elected "administrators" being named pupils probably deserves for them to be expelled for stupidity at least.

    I guess that school's average LC points will now be a lot higher.


  • #6
    SunnyDub1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    they deserved to be punished.... but,

    The quoted is a bit extreme, don't see why all the pupils have to close their account...
    They done nothing wrong ?
    News of the expulsion comes after principal Leonie Hultgren of Harlaxton school in Toowoomba, Australia, warned all students aged under 13 they faced being excluded if they failed to shut down their Facebook accounts as instructed.


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  • #7
    RachaelVO
    Registered Users Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Cyber bulllying has become such a HUGE problem that they do deserve to be made an example of, just because it doesn't go on in school doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect on other pupils.

    Fair fcuks to them, a very right controversial decision, even though they will probably have to take them back eventually, but it does highlight cyber bullying!


  • #8
    Niall09
    Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Niall09


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    they deserved to be punished.... but,

    The quoted is a bit extreme, don't see why all the pupils have to close their account...
    They done nothing wrong ?

    It is against Facebook's terms and conditions that people are not allowed use Facebook if they are under 13.

    https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

    "You will not use Facebook if you are under 13."


  • #9
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    How about a quote for us iPhone 4S users :)


  • #10
    phill106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭phill106


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    How about a quote for us iPhone 4S users :)



    School expels 4 pupils for 'disparaging Facebook comments'
    Posted by SchoolDays Newshound on 17/05/2012. Tags: Secondary School News
    Abusive remarks posted on Facebook about teachers at a school in Dublin have led to four pupils being expelled.

    The students, who were all in their fifth-year at Oatlands College, are alleged to have made "vile sexual allegations" about a male and female teacher, as well as disparaging remarks about the work of another female teacher, the Irish Times reports.

    Principal Keith Ryan was alerted to the comments after a member of the school's staff saw them posted on a Facebook page created by one student and administered by three others.

    The four pupils were suspended for 20 days when the incident came to light and a meeting of the school board of management led to the decision this week to expel the teenagers.

    News of the expulsion comes after principal Leonie Hultgren of Harlaxton school in Toowoomba, Australia, warned all students aged under 13 they faced being excluded if they failed to shut down their Facebook accounts as instructed.

    In a bid to tackle online bullying and harassment in schools, Minister for Education Ruairi Quinn will this morning (May 17th) host an anti-bullying forum that can be viewed live here.

    Written by Donal Walsh


  • #11
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,107 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Whoops.
    TD Mick Wallace's son among four pupils expelled from school

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/td-mick-wallaces-son-among-four-pupils-expelled-from-school-3074300.html


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  • #12
    problemchimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    I take the points about bullying, but is this a bullying issue? No other pupils were bullied and let's face it, we all had stories/rumours about teachers when we where at school. Suspension? yes. Expulsion? no.


  • #13
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Whoops.



    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/td-mick-wallaces-son-among-four-pupils-expelled-from-school-3074300.html

    Oh dear!


  • #14
    bruschi
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    problemchimp wrote: »
    I take the points about bullying, but is this a bullying issue? No other pupils were bullied and let's face it, we all had stories/rumours about teachers when we where at school. Suspension? yes. Expulsion? no.


    so you can bully teachers then? make up false accusations and put it on the internet. nice.:rolleyes:


  • #15
    Immaculate Pasta
    Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    Immaculate Pasta likes this.


  • #16
    pirelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    they deserved to be punished.... but,

    The quoted is a bit extreme, don't see why all the pupils have to close their account...
    They done nothing wrong ?

    They are under the entry age for facebook which is 13.You are recommended to ask for parental consent between the ages of 13 and 18. Technically their parent could permit information about them to be shown on facebook not sure if that includes owning an account?


  • #17
    Dudess
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    That report is very threadbare - doesn't make the expulsion seem fair at all.


  • #18
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    The bullies are not the victims in all of this.

    It might be the education these bullies needed.


  • #19
    problemchimp
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    bruschi wrote: »
    so you can bully teachers then? make up false accusations and put it on the internet. nice.:rolleyes:
    Kids will always say stupid and sometimes nasty things about teachers, nothing new there. When they grow up they usually realise it was just kids stuff. Punish them yes, but to ruin their furure prospects is a bit much. Teachers are well aware of situation and have to accept it as an unfortunate part of the job.


  • #20
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    How about a quote for us iPhone 4S users :)
    You forgot to mention if it was 16/32/64GB.


  • #21
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Dudess wrote: »
    That report is very threadbare - doesn't make the expulsion seem fair at all.

    In the Indo article about Mick Wallace's kid, it states a few of them set up a specific page detailling obscene and totally untrue allegations against two teachers.

    Seems fair enough to me.


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  • #22
    kinseydub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ✭kinseydub


    If you get upset about something on facebook then your are a moron and need your internet access confiscated. I see it all the time when for example gob****e A is giving out about gob****e B cause he called his cat gay. Idiots !


  • #23
    MarkyTheLips
    Closed Accounts Posts: 209 ✭✭MarkyTheLips


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    they deserved to be punished.... but,

    The quoted is a bit extreme, don't see why all the pupils have to close their account...
    They done nothing wrong ?

    Doesn't say if it's a permanent or temporary "exclusion" in that Aussie school... Suppose by rights they should be closing the accounts as they shouldn't have them in the first place (according to FB TOS).. :)


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bullying doesn't just extend to your peers!

    There is very little information give about what was said in the facebook comments, but false accusations of a sexual nature against a teacher (or any adult) could have a detrimental effect of their career so if that was the case, I don't see it as being a harsh punishment.


  • #25
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    A guy in the States got expelled for using the f**k off word on twitter.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120340/Student-Austin-Carroll-expelled-Garrett-High-School-F-bomb-Twitter-post--months-shy-graduation.html


  • #26
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Saying things like "I hate that pr1ck Mr Mackey, he's a tool" on social media could be construed as cyber bullying and should result in a suspension. Making claims of (possibly extra-marital) affairs about two staff members is idiotic and could result in a potential law suit.


  • #27
    pirelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    A guy in the States got expelled for using the f**k off word on twitter.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120340/Student-Austin-Carroll-expelled-Garrett-High-School-F-bomb-Twitter-post--months-shy-graduation.html

    Excessive!


  • #28
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    How about a quote for us iPhone 4S users :)
    Here you go:
    Stop banging on about your iPhone...

    ... and get an Android.


  • #29
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    "vile sexual allegations" seem like it was something pretty serious.


  • #30
    MarkyTheLips
    Closed Accounts Posts: 209 ✭✭MarkyTheLips


    pirelli wrote: »
    They are under the entry age for facebook which is 13.You are recommended to ask for parental consent between the ages of 13 and 18. Technically their parent could permit information about them to be shown on facebook not sure if that includes owning an account?

    I hate the amount of time that being sick from work gives me to google things :o

    http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=157793540954833


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  • #31
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Mick Wallace represents Wexford yet his family live in Dublin?

    You should live where your voters are imo


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