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The Bourne Legacy (Bourne 4)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 708 ✭✭✭zimovain


    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a281284/matt-damon-written-out-of-bourne-legacy.html
    Tony Gilroy has revealed that Matt Damon's Jason Bourne character won't appear in The Bourne Legacy.

    The Michael Clayton helmer, who penned scripts for each of the three Bourne films and will write and direct Legacy, shed light on the latest franchise entry to Hollywood Elsewhere.

    "This is not a reboot or a recast or a prequel," he said. "No one's replacing Matt Damon. There will be a whole new hero, a whole new chapter… this is a stand-alone project."

    Gilroy continued: "Jason Bourne will not be in this film, but he's very much alive. What happened in the first three films is the trigger for what happens.

    "I'm building a legend and an environment and a wider conspiracy...the world we're making enhances and advances and invites Jason Bourne's return [down the road]."

    Gilroy added that Bourne Legacy will show audiences "the bigger picture, the bigger canvas" surrounding Jason Bourne's actions in the previous movies.

    The Bourne Legacy is due to arrive in cinemas in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    Aw crap.
    Why call it bourne at all then?
    So they knew months ago that bourne wasn't in it?
    Nice way to piss of the loyal fanbase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭La frog fairy


    agree

    if theres no Matt Damon and its a different story all together there surely its not a 4th Bourne, or did i miss something!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Complete waste of time and money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    Hmmm, no main character you say? And Curse of the Pink Panther and Halloween III were resounding critical and commercial successes then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Source
    James Franco is being lined up to star in ‘The Bourne Legacy’.
    The ‘127 Hours’ actor is being pursued by the film’s director Tony Gilroy to take on the starring role in the movie – the first in the franchise not to feature Matt Damon as lead character Jason Bourne.
    If he took the part in the project – the fourth in the ‘Bourne’ series – Franco would portray an entirely new action hero, as Gilroy has previously confessed he couldn’t “replace” Damon.
    He said: “I couldn’t imagine trying to replace him. All the conspiratorial politics aside, these are very un-cynical, honest movies, and I don’t know another actor who brings more integrity and dignity, and a lack of cynicism to his work than Matt.”
    Little is known about the script for the project, although Gilroy has confirmed Jason Bourne has not died, paving the way for him to return in a later movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭danh789


    No Matt Damon. I think this film is f***ed so if its going head to head with the 24 Movie which is due to be released in 2012 aswell.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I don't get calling it Bourne Legacy and not have Bourne in it at all, its like having a Bond film called Bond Legacy and having no James Bond in it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    please don't be **** please don't be **** pleeeeeeeeease


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    You'll all still watch it... thats right... and you'll secretly like it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    You'll all still watch it... thats right... and you'll secretly like it...

    your right i will watch anyways

    franco is a great actor could bring new life to the series even though damon was great in the role


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    lockie1983 wrote: »
    I don't get calling it Bourne Legacy and not have Bourne in it at all, its like having a Bond film called Bond Legacy and having no James Bond in it!
    I don't mind the title, makes sense to me. As Gilroy said, the first three films is the trigger for what happens in this film, the legacy Bourne has left maybe?

    As for Franco as the lead role I'm not too sure. I love him as an actor but really can't imagine him in this type of role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a311003/dominic-cooper-linked-to-bourne-legacy.html

    Dominic Cooper, Garrett Hedlund, Luke Evans and Joel Edgerton will screentest for the Bourne Legacy lead role next month.
    Deadline reports that the four actors will audition for writer/director Tony Gilroy's spinoff of Matt Damon's spy saga in the first week of April.
    Shia LaBeouf is also said to be a contender to lead the movie, while Taylor Kitsch and Logan Marshall-Green have been named as possible stars.
    The Bourne Legacy will not feature Damon's Jason Bourne character. Instead, according to Gilroy, it will show audiences "the bigger picture, the bigger canvas" surrounding the spy's actions in the previous three movies.
    Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire and Josh Hartnett were recently named as potential stars for The Bourne Legacy.
    The movie is due to arrive in cinemas in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    There have been another 7 Bourne books written since Bourne Ultimatum.
    I'm not holding much hope if it isn't gonna star Matt Damon as he really nailed it imo.
    He has around 5 or 6 films scheduled for the next few yrs, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see him return to the role sometime in the future. At least I hope he will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Edit*
    So Norton is in the Bourne.
    With No Greengrass and No Damon I cant see this being anywhere near as good as it's predecessors.
    Out next year apparently.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1194173/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Is he actually playing Bourne though?
    Sounds like a disaster if he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭flanree


    found this on a film site...

    "It’s quite likely that his (Norton) role as the villain in The Bourne Legacy​ sequel, without Bourne but Jeremy Renner as a Bourne-like agent, could bring him back to further glory where he can go back to playing the tortured souls convincingly like he did in Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    flanree wrote: »
    found this on a film site...

    "It’s quite likely that his (Norton) role as the villain in The Bourne Legacy​ sequel, without Bourne but Jeremy Renner as a Bourne-like agent, could bring him back to further glory where he can go back to playing the tortured souls convincingly like he did in Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club."

    Wow with Renner and Norton on board it could be awesome :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a352287/jeremy-renner-reveals-bourne-legacy-character-name-plot-details.html

    Jeremy Renner has revealed details about his character in forthcoming espionage thriller The Bourne Legacy.
    The Oscar-nominated Hurt Locker and The Town star has disclosed the name of his secret agent, who will step into the shoes of Matt Damon's Jason Bourne.
    "My character is called Aaron Cross, but he ends up having a bunch of different names," Renner told Empire.
    The actor reassured fans that The Bourne Legacy will deliver the same action-packed thrills as the previous movies in the series, but on a larger scale.
    "For fans of the franchise, it has that same ticking clock, but it's a new programme and new characters.
    "It's that same deal [with Treadstone], it's just a new set of agents with a different leash. It's the same tempo and pace but more expansive and bigger. The differences are pretty vast but you'll know it's a Bourne movie."
    Edward Norton, Oscar Isaac, Rachel Weisz, Joan Allen and Albert Finney will co-star in The Bourne Legacy, which opens in cinemas in August 2012.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭jcf


    Mat Damon not in it ?


    Bollix to that !!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭kellso81


    jcf wrote: »
    Mat Damon not in it ?


    Bollix to that !!!!

    Bollix is right, there's something about Jeremy Renner I can't stand, he's a slimy f**ker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    Loved the first 3 movies, i got to say im a bit disappointed Damon wont be in this one!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Joshua Jones


    The new actor for the fourth might have something to do with the fact that the origional three Bourne books were written by Robert Ludlum before he passed away. The subsequent books were written by Eric Van Lustbader and there's a definate change in style. I loved the first three books was delighted to see another on sale in Easons. Bought it but wasn't enjoying it so much till I looked at the cover again and it said "Robert Ludlums Bourne", and written in small writing at the bottom "By Eric Van Lustbader".

    Also am surprised to see Jeremy Renner involved. I felt that MI4 was setting him up to take over from Cruise. Both roles would be kinda similar.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Also am surprised to see Jeremy Renner involved. I felt that MI4 was setting him up to take over from Cruise. Both roles would be kinda similar.
    That may have been the plan originally, but I don't think it's happening anymore.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,709 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I don't get this whole Jeremy Renner thing, much like I don't get the whole Sam Worthington thing. Two blanker, less charismatic stars you'd struggle to find.

    Still think this is a bit of a pointless sequel. Wouldn't mind if they went the James Bond route of continuing Bourne sequels with different actors, but this just seems silly. Although here's betting there'll be some vague, last minute efforts to tie it into the overarching Bourne plot.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I quite like Renner. I'm not sure he is leading man material, but he's a far better actor than Worthington, who is basically a block of wood.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,709 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I had no issue with Renner in the Hurt Locker, but can't say he made any sort of impact in MI4 or his brief Captain America cameo. I agree it would be hard to top Worthington in terms of blandness, though.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I quite like Renner. I'm not sure he is leading man material, but he's a far better actor than Worthington, who is basically a block of wood.

    Worthington can be quite decent, he inpresses in Texas Killing Fields and a lot of his early work is very good. He also seems to be one of the few actors who will listen to criticism and react in a constructive manner. He isnt afriad to say when a film hes is is bad, he admits that Clash of the titans wasn't a very good film and that his performance wasn't exactly great. It's refreshing to hear an actor not afraid to hold his hands up and say that they can do better.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I had no issue with Renner in the Hurt Locker, but can't say he made any sort of impact in MI4 or his brief Captain America cameo. I agree it would be hard to top Worthington in terms of blandness, though.

    His cameo was in Thor, was a rather pointless moment which was thrown in to save Marvel the expense of making a film to introduce his character.

    Bourne 4 has little appeal for me, I'll check it out at some stage but it's not a film I'll be eagerly anticipating considering how poor the non Ludlum novels are. Read two of them recently and found them both rather dull.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,709 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    His cameo was in Thor, was a rather pointless moment which was thrown in to save Marvel the expense of making a film to introduce his character

    Meh, basically the same thing :P

    Can't imagine he's going to hold up too well next to RDJ, Mark Ruffalo etc... But that's just me.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    In fairness, even the best of actors have trouble with RDJ. He's a ruthless scene stealer and it takes a strong director to restrain him. I actually would have put Renner and Ruffalo on fairly equal footing. Ruffalo often fails to make an impression when up against big stars as well.

    Anyway, I'm sure Renner will be a fine replacement for Damon, who nobody took seriously as an action hero or leading man before Bourne. I'd be more worried about Tony Gilroy screwing this up. I really liked Michael Clayton, but if he tries imitating Greengrass the way Forster did with Quantum of Solace the film is going to be painful to watch. I wouldn't mind a return to the style of the first film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    Don't forget Remnet's performance in "The Town". That was fantastic.
    I am quite looking forward to seeing what he does in Bourne. Even more so after seeing him in MI4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Glad to see Joan Allen is back, she was good as Landy in the other Bournes. I dont mind that they're making another movie set in the Bourne universe about a different agent, there's loads of them after all, but putting Bourne in the title is just lazy marketing. I get it, they want people to associate it with the previous movies but if Jason Bourne has nothing to do with it then its pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    krudler wrote: »
    Glad to see Joan Allen is back, she was good as Landy in the other Bournes. I dont mind that they're making another movie set in the Bourne universe about a different agent, there's loads of them after all, but putting Bourne in the title is just lazy marketing. I get it, they want people to associate it with the previous movies but if Jason Bourne has nothing to do with it then its pointless.

    But if its about Bournes legacy, then the title is apt. Time is going to have to tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I don't get this whole Jeremy Renner thing, much like I don't get the whole Sam Worthington thing. Two blanker, less charismatic stars you'd struggle to find.

    Still think this is a bit of a pointless sequel. Wouldn't mind if they went the James Bond route of continuing Bourne sequels with different actors, but this just seems silly. Although here's betting there'll be some vague, last minute efforts to tie it into the overarching Bourne plot.

    I think after the success of Hurt Locker Renner signed up for every big role that he could get :p he is a decent actor have a look at Dahmer he proves his acting chops there and he was good in The Town and North Country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    I am a HUGE fan of the trilogy - I'd rate them as the best action films PERIOD
    I was hugely dissapointed with the news of a Jason-less sequel.

    The teaser is out today and I think it actually looks promising! - EDIT - no YouTube embed linsk as yet...

    http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/thebournelegacy/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    That trailer is awfully underwhelming


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    al28283 wrote: »
    That trailer is awfully underwhelming

    ...Its a teaser!

    I never thought I'd defend it, but it's gotten my attention for a possible dark horse for the summer batch...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not a franchise I care too deeply about, or would have called essential viewing, but it all smacks of cashcow'ism really (though I know nothing of the novels, so perhaps this is a legitimate sequel). It looks like they've brought back most of the remaining CIA / Tredstone cast which is cool, but otherwise a hard movie to get overly excited about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Lousy trailer/teaser/whatever. I'm sick of hearing the same Inception-like "bongs" in every feckin trailer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    Lousy trailer/teaser/whatever. I'm sick of hearing the same Inception-like "bongs" in every feckin trailer.

    Well I suppose we'll have to wait and see then - the lead man is a solid actor and the gritty nature of the intro looks solid to me in terms of holding onto the vibe of the origional trilogy.

    I hated the origional concept, but after a quick look at that teaser, I'm fairly excited about how this could turn out.

    Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭bradolf pittler


    i wonder will we see a matt damon v jeremy renner showdown in a future "bourne" movie if this one does well?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Shiroki


    Renners my favourite actor right now and I'm stoked to see him getting more roles. Excited for this :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,059 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I hate Renner, and I hate this. It just smacks of Bond, and all that is shît about it. I love the Bourne trilogy but this reeks of desperation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    they should just mention bourne in some kind of tagline, like "jason bourne wasnt the only one" or "jason bourne was only the beginning" and then call the film legacy,

    i understand that its the bourne universe the're in and all that, but i think its wrong to mislead people in this way,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    His catchphrase should be "I wasn't Bourne yesterday" and he should say it every time he kills a guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    don ramo wrote: »
    they should just mention bourne in some kind of tagline, like "jason bourne wasnt the only one" or "jason bourne was only the beginning" and then call the film legacy,

    i understand that its the bourne universe the're in and all that, but i think its wrong to mislead people in this way,
    Did you watch the teaser? Because if you did I have no idea where you're coming from.


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