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Tips for the Hayfever Sufferers

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Smileylynz wrote:
    Piriton, , Hope I spelt that right, Excellent Tablets, Cheap too, Get them n any chemist! They dont make me drowsy, but nearly made the girl I work with fall asleep yesterday!!!

    Nothing helps me ecept for these tablets. I got an injection last year and it looks like i need one again this year as my nose is really itchy :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    kieranmcg1 wrote:
    I heard this a while back but my hyfever has never been bad enough to try it but iv heard something that is sipposed to help hay fever sufferers is to share a kiss with a lover . it would be the kind of thing you would try if you were cought off guard . worth a try if it helps at all
    A kiss eh?? Any volunteers? :D:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Dudess wrote:
    Just another point on the antihistamines: the non-drowsy ones are non-drowsy because they contain a stimulant so don't take them before going to sleep.

    I know it's an old thread but because people are reading it again I just thought I'd point out that that isn't true and you can take them before going to bed, they won't keep you awake!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭snickerpuss


    Today is the first day I've gotten it all year. I'm dying. I went and got my neo-clarityn prescription and took one.
    Its the sinius pain that kills me. Bah. I can't work like this all summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    tk123 wrote:
    Does anyone use eye drops - if so which ones? I use Otrivine and they burn my eyes out for about 5 mins after taking thm :( My doc prescribed me Nasonex and it works treat but I still have to use eye drops sometimes...

    Opticrom.. not sure if they're prescription or not.. but they're amazing!

    I also use Neoclarityn tablets and Flixonase Nasel spray.

    A tablet, a spray and a drop in each eye in the morning and I dont get any symptoms for the whole day!

    If they do flare up, a spray or eye drops depending on what flares does the trick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    I developed severe hayfever almost overnight when I was in my late twenties.
    Since then, I'v tried almost everything.
    Went the homeopathic route, lots of honey, weleda pollen supplements, etc.. with no success.

    Got the Kenalog injection from my gp - you need to get it ideally about 3/4 weeks before the start of the pollen season - however, its not great stuff to have injected into your body, and can cause necrosis & puckering of muscle at the injection site, not to mention bone thinning, and other lovely side effects. So, made a decision not to go down that route after three seasons.

    Nasal sprays are only ok in the short term - prolonged use can cause them to become ineffective, as well as making your nose bleed. Most nasal sprays are topical steroids, which will eventually thin nasal tissue.

    The only thing that works for me is Zirtek, and on an especially bad day, I will take a 2nd tablet. An earlier poster mentioned milk too - spot on, cut down completely on all dairy products.


    BTW: Mods - could this be put in the long term illness forum as a sticky for the hayfever season? Would make more sense to have it there, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Today is the first day I've gotten it all year. I'm dying. I went and got my neo-clarityn prescription and took one.
    Its the sinius pain that kills me. Bah. I can't work like this all summer.

    It's the rash that gets me. Beconase/Flixonase/Zirtek etc are fine once the pollen count isn't too high but some days they just don't do enough and I end up breaking out in a rash and getting the eyes, sinus pain etc. The rash is worse than the sinus pain for me most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Well, the pollen count seemed to jump up about two days ago in this part of Cork. Up till then it was fine really. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Pollen count is mad high in the midlands this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭yurmothrintites


    Apparently taking a walk on the beach clears your symptoms straight away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭BENJAMIN61


    i had to have surgurey on my nose the other week thanks to hayfever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Gah mine is back - come back back winter!


  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Sugar Drunk


    so glad its not just me! ive been dying with it this week im off to beg for the injection tonight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Yeah I might see if I can get that injection too - i'm sick and tired of people in work having the 'flu' and 'head colds' while i'm popping pills and using eye drops non stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Just got hayfever again last week, seems earlier this year. Anyone else notice this? Normally only get it for 3 / 4 weeks at most (roll on June!) and keep it under control with over the counter non-drowsy antihistamines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    I had a touch of it last week when I went "down the country" and was surrounded by freshly cut grass. It hasn't hit me full on yet though, but I live in the city centre so there isn't that much pollen about usually.

    Have my Beconase bought and ready in preparation. Hopefully I won't have to go get a prescription for stronger stuff this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Boilerbad


    give up milk casein the milk protein tricks the body into attacking itself leaving it sensitive causing allergies and arthritis:pac::pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Boilerbad wrote: »
    give up milk casein the milk protein tricks the body into attacking itself leaving it sensitive causing allergies and arthritis:pac::pac:

    While this may be the case for some individuals, unfortunately you cannot extrapolate this to the population at large. Some segments of the population statistically are more sensitive to casein, and it has been shown to cause problems (its a particular problem in some demographics- notably the Chinese community). There are several published studies on this (if you do a search on the Lancet you'll find 2 recent (2008) surveys). The average member of the Irish population however has no difficulties in properly digesting milk, milk products and their constituent components. Where difficulties with casein and milk products does arise in a Western context, the intolerance tends to be temporary in nature and of unknown cause. In many cases its just as likely to dissappear over time.

    Ps- Lactose intolerance is a far more prevalent problem, than casein intolerance.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Rainman1


    WindSock wrote: »
    Eat local honey to build up your immune system to the pollen.
    Unfortunetly building up your immune system is not the answer to hayfever, as your immune system is already in overdrive attacking harmless pollen with over production of histimine.
    Taking antihistimines only masks the problem as you're tackling the symptoms and not the source of the problem. I have suffered chronic hayfever since I was a child and have tried everything from the course of injections to herbal remedies, and of course every antihistimine and nasal spray that was out there, nothing worked. Last year I actually stumbled on the solution whilst looking into something else, I discovered that acupunture is particularly effective in readjusting the immune system, I consulted an acupunturist and he explained that this was very successful against allergies, including hayfever, anyway, that was three years ago and I haven't suffered since, I would advise any sufferers to give it a go, you shouldn't have to pay more than €30 for a session and you may be stunned at how effective it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    I don't drink milk and have it pretty much all year round - i had dec & jan off :( Thou I will say that since I cut back on dairy my skin is clearer and def less phlegm (yuck - sorry!:D) The doc gave me a scrip. for Flixonase (€26 a bottle!) last week when I was in for a repeat for my thyroid medicine and said if if didn't work they'd refer me to some alergy specialist to see what the problem is. I'm wary of this thou cos the last time they referred me it cost me LOADS - just my luck they found thyroid nodules that were also cystic that needed scanning and prodding with needles!:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Sugar Drunk


    I got the injection in the middle of march and also got a course of singluair tablets. sadly while I felt great the last few weeks - the hayfever is back already I could barely open my eyes in work yesterday and just wanted to sleep :( going to see if I can get the injection again in june. I do know an acupuncturist so will ask her about havign a few sessions


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Rainman1


    I do know an acupuncturist so will ask her about havign a few sessions

    I would really recommend giving that a shot, I was out cutting the grass yesterday, an activity that would have put me in hosptal three years ago, the joy of acupuncture, assuming it works for you, is that it doesn't just treat the symptons, but cures the problem for life. Do let us know how you get on if you do decide to do a few sessions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    Where's the cheapest for antihistamines? Cheapest I have found so far is 2.49 for a box of 7 generic Zirtek in Boots. These were on special last week so not sure if they still are- hope so. Last two years I had stocked up on generics in the US. Anyone buy on the internet?

    Cheap nasal spray tips would also be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    suffer with hayfevcer for the last ten years. I thought last year i was bad and went to my doctor and got a brilliant nasal spray cleared up my sneezing, sore eyes and itichy throat.
    This year its not working for me. I'm on 2 Ziteck tablets a day, eye drops for sore eyes and my throat is very itchy. i would scratch it with sandpaper if i could. Going to go for the Kenalog injection. Will it help?????????????????


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    I've resorted to a dehumidifier with an activated carbon filter at home- at least you get a reasonable night's sleep. My eyes feel like they have hair stuck on them....... :( My GP gave me Neoclarityn on prescription- its not working the best.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    One Zirtek tablet after breakfast and it doesn't bother me at all. It's a non-drowsy antihistamine so won't affect driving or anything, I used to use Piriton but had to take it few times and made me really sleepy, couldn't do without Zirtek now!

    one Zirtek and I sleep for all day !

    dreadful things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭taram


    Zirtek stopped working for me last year, this year I'm trying neoclarityn.

    I woke up this morning and could smell pollen :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,486 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Pal wrote: »
    one Zirtek and I sleep for all day !
    Take it last thing before you go to bed then .. that's what I do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    I had the same problem with Zirtek ceasing to work some years ago. Gradually I built up a resistence to all the other pills and was living in misery, I probably spent about 2 hours a day sneezing.

    I did the flixonase and beconase for a while but one day I was at work and noticed that the cleaning guy had arrived earlier and my nose was started to twitch. I put 2 and 2 together and realised I was getting this every morning when I arrived in and again in the evening if I was still there if the cleaning started.

    So I asked facilities at work was there any chance if they could either stop using cleaning fluids to clean around my desk or else change whatever they are using. They were a bit snotty about it at first but I said I was really going through hell and thought it might be related.

    Turned out I was spot on.

    Basically, end of 9 years of misery. I have probably had hay fever about twice in the last few months.

    Not only that, but a cacophony of sniffles and sneezing from 2 or 3 other sufferers has also stopped. There were at least 3 or 4 or us going through this daily hell because of some kind of cleaning fluid that is commonly used by commercial cleaners. I very strongly suspect this is widely used since I had major problems in a couple of other offices and the cleaners are supplied by a large contracting company. Interesting though, that I was not the only sufferer. Maybe looking for root causes is a good idea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 travellers


    Practical advice on hay-fever


    1. Plan ahead – Listen out for the daily pollen forecast.

    2. Remain in doors if at all possible with building or car doors closed while pollen count is high.

    3. Close bedroom windows at night.

    4. Frequently damp dust your house and regularly hover. This will help reduce the pollen levels within.

    5. If out-doors try to avoid freshly cut lawns, hay/silage fields, picking fruit or flowers and do not touch any animals that would have pollen on their coats.

    6. Wear close fitting sunglasses or goggles while outdoors to prevent pollen grains entering the eyes.

    7. Choose a car that has air-conditioning or a pollen filter if possible.

    8. A good mask or a small amount of Vaseline applied on the inside of the nostrils will reduce the amount of pollen you inhale.

    9. Avoid air pollution or tobacco smoke or such like as these exacerbate matters.

    10. Plan holidays or day trips to hot dry destinations preferably seaside, mountains or moorland areas.

    11. If there is a history of pollen allergy in the family, newborn babies should be kept away from high pollen concentrations.

    12. Take appropriate Preventative medicine.

    13. Wash your hands regularly and avoid touching your eyes with your hands. Shower and change your clothes after being outside to remove pollen grains from the body.

    14. Pollen counts are HIGHEST EARLY MORNING OR LATE AFTERNOON.



    MEDICATION:

    Treatment:
    1. Antihistamines (e.g. Zirtek, Cetrine, Clarytin - all once daily and non-drowsy; Piriton - Four times a day and causes drowsiness)
    2. Decongestants (e.g. Sudafed)
    2.1 Decongestant + Paracetamol (e.g. Sinutab; Solpa-Sinus)
    2.2. Decongestant + Antihistamine (e.g. Actifed)
    2.3 Nasal decongestants (e.g. Sinex) can be used by people with high blood pressure but shouldn't be used for more than 7 days.
    Decongestants are useful for the relief of late phase congestion – Will not relieve early phase symptoms such as itchy eyes and nose and sneezing.

    Preventatives:
    Take some time to work and should be started before the hay-fever season:
    1. Sodium Cromoglicate (e.g. Opticrom) eye drops
    2. Intranasal corticosteroids (e.g. Flixonase and Beconase)

    Herbal:
    Luffa complex
    Natural:
    Sterimar (sea water spray)

    Polen Forecast:
    http://www.met.ie/forecasts/pollen.asp
    Also on South East Radio, not sure about the time...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭sorella


    I have just started using a product called nazalese that was mentioned on the Irish health boards.

    This year we are living among trees after years of coastal living and the hay fever struck badly many weeks ago.


    Wondered what had hit me.

    I have M.E with atypical reactions to many meds but am really ill and incapacitated with the hay fever.

    Using piriton but it knocks me out; and painklillers that do the same.

    The nasalese is not a chemical; it sounds gross, but in fact it makes sense as it lines the nose with a powder that stops the allergens entering.

    This morning I am in bed; eye, head and sinus pain. Nose running like a tap in all directions and nausea thus. yukk...

    Tried the nazalese, with a sceptical eye, and within seconds the nose had dried etc etc.

    I know it will take a wee while for the bad inflammation to ease but it is doing so already. Sitting up and taking notice now.

    I got it by post from the UK; fast service indeed and a reasonable price.

    I am impressed and see hope for the summer now!!

    http://www.nasaleze.com/

    I had forgotten how disabling hay fever is. Commiserations to all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭pm.


    i find the noes strips great ( you know the one the footballers use ) for night time will unblock you in about 10 mins after use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Has anyone here tried a Medinose? It's a drug free hayfever treatment.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Medinose-45030-Hayfever-Allergy-Treatment/dp/B000BI69UQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    I saw Dr Chris from the This Morning show on a news item talking about this and saying he'd seen huge success treating Hay Fever sufferers with the Medinose (between 70-90% found it highly effective).He said he discovered it when his son,who is an olympic athlete who has very bad hayfever, had to give up all medications including antihistimines to take part in the Olympics last year. According to him it's widely used among Olympic athletes and that his son went from someone who took antihistimines everyday in summer to someone who needs none while using the Medinose.


    It's a little machine with two prongs with a red light on them that you stick up your nose (yes it sounds ridiculous!).According to the manufacturers the red light inhibits the bodies production of histimine and stops hayfever/nasal alergy symptoms. There seems to be an advert for it here :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQSBrOcOko

    Anyone tried it? Or heard of anyone who has tried it before I bite the bullet and buy it?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    blorg wrote: »
    Where's the cheapest for antihistamines? Cheapest I have found so far is 2.49 for a box of 7 generic Zirtek in Boots. These were on special last week so not sure if they still are- hope so. Last two years I had stocked up on generics in the US. Anyone buy on the internet?

    Cheap nasal spray tips would also be appreciated.
    I got cheap tablets and spray on www.chemistdirect.co.uk they were very cheap and have a massive range of products.

    http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/hayfever-and-allergy_c_404.html?ps=01&vi=List&offer_type=&brand_id_filter=

    I ordered lots of stuff but they did not send it all, I never bothered to contact them again about it, they only charged me for what I ordered. Seems they were on TV and were inundated with orders. And I think they sent what they simply had in stock to people. They have very reasonable postage, and are probably pleased I did not contact them as they would be obliged to send the rest of the order and cover the extra post themselves.

    Big thread on them here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055453107
    With mixed thoughts


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭rollerdisco


    Be aware of cross reactivity the proteins in pollen are similar to ones in the food we eat eg apple is associated with birch and molds which is more abundant in air than pollens would cross react with foods with yeast and mold cheese beer bread red wine the longer I stay off beer the better my nose is and I am chronic


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 39 breda206


    Pet wrote: »
    My hayfever only got really bad when I moved into the city centre for college. You tend to be constantly exposed living in the country, whereas in the city, there's no pollen for ages, and then all of a sudden in April/May, you're bombarded. Makes sense.

    Same here. Nurse thought I was mad, but it seems i'm not the only one.:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 39 breda206


    blorg wrote: »
    Where's the cheapest for antihistamines? Cheapest I have found so far is 2.49 for a box of 7 generic Zirtek in Boots. These were on special last week so not sure if they still are- hope so. Last two years I had stocked up on generics in the US. Anyone buy on the internet?

    Cheap nasal spray tips would also be appreciated.

    I went up to Enniskillen and bought s**tloads of "Asda Hayfever & Allergy Relief" for £1.65 for 14 tabs, it's the same active ingredient as Zirtek, which I used to buy and was costing me a fortune, €5.39 for 7 tabs. I went to another Asda while I was in the north and bought another batch at the same time.

    I have skin allergies as well as hayfever, so it's a 2 in 1 for me! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭chickenpoo


    Has anyone ever tried acupuncture for hayfever? I have year-long allergies to pollen, animals, dust, cleaning products and am getting a bit sick of having to use nasal sprays and Telfast/Phenergan all year round.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Rainman1


    I've used acupuncture for chronic seasonal grass hayfever and never looked back, most of my life I couldn't leave the house during the early summer even when using perscription antihistimines, but after acupuncture I was able to cut the grass in June, it took a few sessions with the acupuncturist in the first year, then one session before the season started for two years after that, I haven't been back to the acupuncturist for the past two seasons and my hayfever is now all but gone, just get the odd sniffle when cutting the grass that a Zirtek soon gets rid of. Acupuncture worked really well for me, but I'm sure, like everything else, this may not be the solution for everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭chickenpoo


    Rainman1 wrote: »
    I've used acupuncture for chronic seasonal grass hayfever and never looked back, most of my life I couldn't leave the house during the early summer even when using perscription antihistimines, but after acupuncture I was able to cut the grass in June, it took a few sessions with the acupuncturist in the first year, then one session before the season started for two years after that, I haven't been back to the acupuncturist for the past two seasons and my hayfever is now all but gone, just get the odd sniffle when cutting the grass that a Zirtek soon gets rid of. Acupuncture worked really well for me, but I'm sure, like everything else, this may not be the solution for everyone.

    Cool, I'll probably give it a go and report back how I get on :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sinlaw


    I know this thread is a bit old but maybe this info will benefit someone. Something I found that really helped certain hayfever symptoms and sinus symptoms was a 'neti pot'. It's not really for the faint-hearted but it does work, it's cheap and it's 100% natural. As far as I'm aware, they are used as part of yoga training. It basically involves irrigating the sinuses with a solution of salty water. Up one nostril ... out the other! :)

    I'm not entirely sure how but it seems to clear the eyes and ears too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MonicaBing


    Is it possible to get hay fever now? Ive never suffered before apart from when in NT in Australia, but im home from college, totally miserable, streaming nose and my eyes are streaming also, in fact there almost dry there so sore..im sneezing crazy but no cough or anything else flu like My partner reckons i have hayfever but is it possible?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    MonicaBing wrote: »
    Is it possible to get hay fever now? Ive never suffered before apart from when in NT in Australia, but im home from college, totally miserable, streaming nose and my eyes are streaming also, in fact there almost dry there so sore..im sneezing crazy but no cough or anything else flu like My partner reckons i have hayfever but is it possible?

    All hayfever is, is an autoimmune response to pollen in the atmosphere. At the moment- while the pollen count may not be high- its entirely possible that there may be other particles in the atmosphere that you're sensetive to. It mightn't be traditional hayfever- but its not a million miles away from it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭lalalulu


    Yep it think it's possible... My sinus' are acting up since yesterday feels excatly like the hayfever i get during the summer which is awful i don't get the sneezing or sore eyes. I get sore throat, headache, blocked nose and severe fatigue:(
    Has anyone here got themselves tested to see what they are allergic to?
    I was advised to start taking antihistamines now to build up immunity for the summer, has anyone esle been advised to do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭mossie110


    take a spoon full of raw honey everyday, as raw honey has pollen in it and it will help to build up a resistens to hay-fever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Sounds like what I have which is allergic rhinitis. Its basically the same as hayfever except it's a reaction to dustmites rather than pollen. These are found indoors pretty much everywhere although some places are worse than others. Central heating also seems to exacerbate my problem I'm nearly worse in the winter because I don't get as much fresh air. Same medications work for it though as it's essentially the same reaction to a different thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Have been suffering hayfever since I was sixteen and it has ruined summer for me. I know it seems very early to be discussing it but spring is a commin' and I have decided to take preventative measures to tackle the problem rather than just the symptoms. I have been taking luffa complex every day for about two weeks now so we'll see how it goes when hayfever season comes about.

    One thing though, shortly after I started taking the tablets I started getting mild hayfever-ish symptoms - runny nose, itchy eyes, itchy skin - in February?? Could this be a side effect of the luffa? Has anyone had a similar experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭ge_ch


    i suffer very bad all year round. the worst time is usually when it starts in january until october. i found avamys nasal spray the best,it clears my nose but at the same time it irritates my throat and i end up with throat infections all the time.
    i just discovered something brilliant though,
    its a nasal rinse from neilmed. its basically a plastic sqeezy bootle you fill with water and a little sachet mix(salt&bicarbonate) and you flush your nose. its a bit weird the first time round but you get used to it soon.
    its the best thing i ever tried and its natural and cheap, way better than all the chemicals i used all my life
    http://www.neilmed.com/ire/sinusrinse.php
    i only used it for a few days now but i can finally breath through my nose and dont have to carry tissues around anymore
    its available online of the official site and in some pharmacies


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