Physical force republican groups unite to form new IRA

Genghis Khan. · 27-07-2012 2:01pm

I hope some one puts a knapsack on their back and kills these Republican terrorists. Victory to the Red hand!

maddragon · 27-07-2012 2:04pm

Genghis Khan. wrote: »

I hope some one puts a knapsack on their back and kills these Republican terrorists. Victory to the Red hand!

Tyrone are out of this years GAA football championship.

Richard Hillman · 27-07-2012 2:13pm

The groups were so small and rag tag that they probably amalgamated to look even slightly respectable. We've all seen the little marches and ceremonies they have. Its just a bunch of overweight drunks. These groups are infiltrated to the balls by Mi5 and the Gardai.

Every time they move a large bomb it gets caught and its not a coincidence. When they use smaller bombs or shoot anybody the infiltrators have to ignore it how not to raise suspicion. Although saying that they would be thicker than we all think they are if they dont think that there isnt undercover people in their movement.

Amalgimating groups makes it easier for the Gardai and Mi5 to control them. It was probably them who did it for them :pac:

27-07-2012 2:29pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

You don't comprehend the situation.

That is exactly what they want, to shatter normalization and, as they would say, smash the false reality SF have built up and reveal the north as being just as much under the control, and at the mercy of, the Brits as ever before.

So it's not an "epic fail". Brits on the street would be a win for them.

I would imagine their wishes would lie closer to something along the lines of consolidating the drug trade/protection rackets. Sure they might want chaos, but only because that will help them to get away with more crime.

Why are you such and out and out believer that these men are in some way "dedicated to the cause". They are no more dedicated to the cause of one Ireland than the US are for democracy in the Middle East. It's a phony cause for selfish purposes.

Genghis Khan. · 27-07-2012 2:55pm

maddragon wrote: »

Tyrone are out of this years GAA football championship.

Ulster Protestants are ready and prepared to defend themselves if they must from Republican aggression.

whitelines · 27-07-2012 3:24pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

You don't comprehend the situation.

That is exactly what they want, to shatter normalization and, as they would say, smash the false reality SF have built up and reveal the north as being just as much under the control, and at the mercy of, the Brits as ever before.

So it's not an "epic fail". Brits on the street would be a win for them.

Everyone knows that The UK is totally in control of all it's territory including Northern Ireland - no one and I mean no one is under any illusion about that reality.

celtictiger32 · 27-07-2012 3:29pm

Genghis Khan. wrote: »

I hope some one puts a knapsack on their back and kills these Republican terrorists. Victory to the Red hand!

seriously?.............. get over yourself!:rolleyes:

southsiderosie · 27-07-2012 3:42pm

Genghis Khan. wrote: »

I hope some one puts a knapsack on their back and kills these Republican terrorists. Victory to the Red hand!

MOD NOTE:

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Let me make this clear: celebration and/or promotion of murder is strictly prohibited in this forum.

Fenian Army · 27-07-2012 5:07pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I would imagine their wishes would lie closer to something along the lines of consolidating the drug trade/protection rackets. Sure they might want chaos, but only because that will help them to get away with more crime.

Why are you such and out and out believer that these men are in some way "dedicated to the cause". They are no more dedicated to the cause of one Ireland than the US are for democracy in the Middle East. It's a phony cause for selfish purposes.

I believe it, because it is true.

What you say makes no sense, crime gangs get away with stuff and are under a much smaller spotlight with much more lenient consequences for their actions than IRA members are.

So if they were interested in crime, profits etc why not just be an ordinary criminal?

What you say is a myth the media (Herald in particular) like to spread. It's really unnecessary, surely they are bad enough without making things up.

stovelid · 27-07-2012 5:13pm

While they certainly pose a danger, they won't have anything near to the factors that surrounded their forebears: public sympathy and so on and should be easier for the state to ruthlessly snuff out.

One thing I would worry about is that they provoke a resurgence of loyalism though.

Varied · 27-07-2012 5:40pm

A lot of hot air.

They aren't needed and that seems to annoy them more than anything.

Collective power and the peace process are the best we can and will hope for.

murphaph · 27-07-2012 5:44pm

Fat old loser men mostly, who want to be the big men in their areas, nothing more. Quite pathetic really.

Best of luck to the security forces in dealing with them.

gandalf · 27-07-2012 7:39pm

Criminal gangs rename themselves. Big deal, they still are criminals nothing has changed.

Dubhlinner · 27-07-2012 8:32pm

This is a bit like the statements these pricks make every easter about how they're going to take out security forces.

What is it 4 members of the security forces in 15 years? Alongside the butchery of 31 civi at Omagh. UVF have a better statistical record for avoiding civilian casulties like

These groups are pathetic. If they're so united and powerful why have they done nothing to "bring on the republic". If there was anything to this they'd have hit another target before making an announcement.

woodoo · 27-07-2012 8:58pm

Dubhlinner wrote: »

This is a bit like the statements these pricks make every easter about how they're going to take out security forces.

What is it 4 members of the security forces in 15 years? Alongside the butchery of 31 civi at Omagh. UVF have a better statistical record for avoiding civilian casulties like

These groups are pathetic. If they're so united and powerful why have they done nothing to "bring on the republic". If there was anything to this they'd have hit another target before making an announcement.

Its just a cover for more efficient criminal activity,..racketeering, drug dealing, armed robberies etc. People should treat them as enemies of the state. North and South.

the_syco · 27-07-2012 9:23pm

It all comes down to funding; where will they get it from?

the_syco · 27-07-2012 9:54pm

I doubt that it's a coincidence that they came back together a few days before the Olympics.

I'd nearly say that they were trolling. I'm sure the security in London has been kicked up a few notches for tonights opening ceremony :P

Dubhlinner · 27-07-2012 10:05pm

the_syco wrote: »

I doubt that it's a coincidence that they came back together a few days before the Olympics.

I'd nearly say that they were trolling. I'm sure the security in London has been kicked up a few notches for tonights opening ceremony :P

aye i bet they're sh*tting themselves big time . . . not.

Just looking at the article again. It says the RIRA and RAAD have joined a coalition of independent republican groups and the CIRA have stayed independent.

no mention of that Oglaigh na hEireann crowd who were bigged up a lot about a year ago.

Most people seemed to believe there was a big RIRA-RAAD connection to begin with. Loose coalition of independents? sounds awfully vague.

I have huge time for Henry McDonald but this seems a bit of a non story tbh. Will be interesting to see if Ed Moloney comments on it.

HOS 1997 · 28-07-2012 12:57am

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Amalgimating groups makes it easier for the Gardai and Mi5 to control them. It was probably them who did it for them :pac:

There is probably a lot of truth in this comment.

The dissident groups are highly infiltrated and I would question who is really pulling their strings.

wingsof daun · 28-07-2012 2:04am

Dubhlinner wrote: »

This is a bit like the statements these pricks make every easter about how they're going to take out security forces.

What is it 4 members of the security forces in 15 years? Alongside the butchery of 31 civi at Omagh. UVF have a better statistical record for avoiding civilian casulties like

These groups are pathetic. If they're so united and powerful why have they done nothing to "bring on the republic". If there was anything to this they'd have hit another target before making an announcement.

British intelligence supposedly helped carry out a majority of IRA bombs including Omagh. Afterall they were infiltrated to the highest level.
Strange that everyone is so cool with British interference in our country now compared to our grandparents. Ppl focus on the crimes of our "own" rather that the crimes of forces of the crown in Ireland. That in itself could be called disunity among the Irish ppl.
Nobody wants a return to the "bad old days" but the continued British presence has made life miserable for many republicans in northern Ireland. Plus they have no voice now from politicians so they seek other means to put pressure on British elements of oppression.
Why was there a 32-county vote on Good Friday when the war was only in 6 counties? The answer is they "knew" peace i.e. permanent British occupation would be voted for. Obviously people anywhere would vote for peace especially if they had not been involved in the conflict, but let the people of the 6 counties vote and the outcome is much less for peace?!

Einhard · 28-07-2012 2:56am

wingsof daun wrote: »

Why was there a 32-county vote on Good Friday when the war was only in 6 counties? The answer is they "knew" peace i.e. permanent British occupation would be voted for. Obviously people anywhere would vote for peace especially if they had not been involved in the conflict, but let the people of the 6 counties vote and the outcome is much less for peace?!

The Yes vote in the Republic was 94%. That in the North was 71%. I'm not sure therefore that your argument holds up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Agreement

Fenian Army · 28-07-2012 12:14pm

Dubhlinner wrote: »

aye i bet they're sh*tting themselves big time . . . not.

Just looking at the article again. It says the RIRA and RAAD have joined a coalition of independent republican groups and the CIRA have stayed independent.

no mention of that Oglaigh na hEireann crowd who were bigged up a lot about a year ago.

Most people seemed to believe there was a big RIRA-RAAD connection to begin with. Loose coalition of independents? sounds awfully vague.

I have huge time for Henry McDonald but this seems a bit of a non story tbh. Will be interesting to see if Ed Moloney comments on it.

The "loose coalition" are ONH.

28-07-2012 12:27pm

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Oh my God. You are suggesting this new group be stamped out by the two things that swelled the ranks of the PIRA and gave them their biggest ever boosts.
There are a lot of people on here talking a lot of crap about something they know very little about.

A zero tolerance, shoot to kill, ambush them, snipe them when they appear in public in uniforms, bomb hideouts/bomb making factories from the air instead of police raid approach is absolutely what is needed.

Totally different world post 9/11 and these guys are relics of a time gone by

thecommietommy · 28-07-2012 1:23pm

Dubhlinner wrote: »

aye i bet they're sh*tting themselves big time . . . not.

Just looking at the article again. It says the RIRA and RAAD have joined a coalition of independent republican groups and the CIRA have stayed independent.

no mention of that Oglaigh na hEireann crowd who were bigged up a lot about a year ago.

Most people seemed to believe there was a big RIRA-RAAD connection to begin with. Loose coalition of independents? sounds awfully vague.

I have huge time for Henry McDonald but this seems a bit of a non story tbh. Will be interesting to see if Ed Moloney comments on it.

You have got to be joking - unless you happen to be a supporter of the former Offical IRA/Workers Party ?

thecommietommy · 28-07-2012 1:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A zero tolerance, shoot to kill, ambush them, snipe them when they appear in public in uniforms, bomb hideouts/bomb making factories from the air instead of police raid approach is absolutely what is needed.

Totally different world post 9/11 and these guys are relics of a time gone by

Didn't work 1916 - 1921, didn't work 1969 - 1996. Pogroms, discrimination, internment, offical and unoffical state murders (on both sides of the border it shoudl be said) didn't work in the past, a political solution is the answer.

Crooked Jack · 28-07-2012 1:40pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

The "loose coalition" are ONH.

Apparently not. Irish News is saying ONH, like CIRA, have opted out of this. So it's RIRA, linking up with RAAD (largely Derry based and already suspected of having pre-existing links with RIRA) and a handful of independent units.
Not hugely significant to be honest. Not insignificant but I dont really think it will make them any more or less of a threat.

Crooked Jack · 28-07-2012 1:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A zero tolerance, shoot to kill, ambush them, snipe them when they appear in public in uniforms, bomb hideouts/bomb making factories from the air instead of police raid approach is absolutely what is needed.

Totally different world post 9/11 and these guys are relics of a time gone by

I suspect (or hope) you're taking the piss when you say that.
If you aren't, then the fact that there are still people out there who haven't (or have refused to) learn from the past 40, 100, 800 years is worrying.
Your suggestions also make you every bit as bad as the group you are talking about.
How does it feel to be on a moral par with those thugs?

tayto lover · 28-07-2012 1:49pm

We never had an I.R.A. suicide-bomber and I know we never will. These lads are not that dedicated.

Dubhlinner · 28-07-2012 2:00pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

You have got to be joking - unless you happen to be a supporter of the former Offical IRA/Workers Party ?

:rolleyes:

Grayson · 28-07-2012 2:26pm

tayto lover wrote: »

We never had an I.R.A. suicide-bomber and I know we never will. These lads are not that dedicated.

Nope. they never did that. they just heldd someone family and made them go out with a bomb.

Getting rid of these idiots was the best thing to happen to ireland in the last 30 years. I'm just amazed that they're stupid and delusional enough to actualy try this.

thecommietommy · 28-07-2012 2:48pm

tayto lover wrote: »

We never had an I.R.A. suicide-bomber and I know we never will. These lads are not that dedicated.

Ironically, the fact that they didn't use suicide attacks that it was a testimony to their efficiency - IRA: The Bombs and the Bullets: A History of Deadly Ingenuity http://www.theirishstory.com/2010/05/21/book-review-ira-the-bombs-and-the-bullets-a-history-of-deadly-ingenuity-a-r-oppenheimer/

Iwasfrozen · 28-07-2012 5:45pm

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Oh my God. You are suggesting this new group be stamped out by the two things that swelled the ranks of the PIRA and gave them their biggest ever boosts.
There are a lot of people on here talking a lot of crap about something they know very little about.

It only failed the last time because it was half hearted. the british still had hopes of talking with these people. If it was directed this time around with the aim of obliteration rather then neutralisation I believe it would work but bombing factories from the air and the like is ridiculous. MI5 and the PSNI should be used over the BA any time it's possible and sweeping extra security laws would be needed but the threat of a paramilitary resurgence should be sufficient to make sure these are passed.

Son Of A Vidic · 28-07-2012 10:13pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

Surprised there was no thread on this already, given the potential significance of it.

Significance of what? There is no significance. These groups are insignificant. The war is over, while the likes of RSF/CIRA were sitting on their arses pontificating over abstentionism and hiding from armed struggle. The PIRA were actually out fighting a war, the war is now over. A political path was offered,

For many years proceeding the first ceasefire, every Easter statement from the IRA Army Council pointed out the lack of a political alternative to the armed struggle. Then the British and Irish governments offered this alternative and here we are today.

These gombeens missed the memo, there are a laughable irrelevance. Fighting for a struggle that has already been won.

johngalway · 28-07-2012 10:15pm

I suppose by all coming together they can now fail on a grander scale than they have been doing apart.

golden lane · 28-07-2012 10:17pm

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Significance of what? There is no significance. These groups are insignificant. The war is over, while the likes of RSF/CIRA were sitting on their arses pontificating over abstentionism and hiding from armed struggle. The PIRA were actually out fighting a war, the war is now over. A political path was offered,

For many years proceeding the first ceasefire, every Easter statement from the IRA Army Council pointed out the lack of a political alternative to the armed struggle. Then the British and Irish governments offered this alternative and here we are today.

These gombeens missed the memo, there are a laughable irrelevance. Fighting for a struggle that has already been won.

agreed..

paky · 28-07-2012 11:46pm

tbh i would've thought a bomb more significant in announcing their arrival rather than a statement given at the side of the road and then burnt.

Chuck Stone · 29-07-2012 3:09am

SocSocPol wrote: »

The only way to fight fire is with fire and the Real Politic of this situation demands that any and all coercive measure required , from internment to shoot to kill be enacted to halt these criminals now.

This is exactly what energized the once fringe element that was the PIRA. Civilians will inevitably be caught up in such patently stupid actions if the authorities were stupid enough to follow such idiotic advice.

Your attitude is disturbing and, frankly, more of a threat to peace than the people you want to exercise it upon.

"my old man always said fight fire with fire..

..that's why he was thrown out of the Fire Brigade.."

Harry Hill

Comedy gold.

SocSocPol · 29-07-2012 11:59am

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Significance of what? There is no significance. These groups are insignificant. The war is over, while the likes of RSF/CIRA were sitting on their arses pontificating over abstentionism and hiding from armed struggle. The PIRA were actually out fighting a war, the war is now over. A political path was offered,

For many years proceeding the first ceasefire, every Easter statement from the IRA Army Council pointed out the lack of a political alternative to the armed struggle. Then the British and Irish governments offered this alternative and here we are today.

These gombeens missed the memo, there are a laughable irrelevance. Fighting for a struggle that has already been won.

Tell that to the families of the Omagh bombing victims, or to Constable Ronan Kerrs mother, or Constable Carrolls wife and kids, or the parents of the two soldiers butchered at Masserene Barracks, tell them that the criminal who wreaked havoc on their lives are a laughing irrelevance.

Dubhlinner · 29-07-2012 2:47pm

thecommietommy wrote: »

You have got to be joking - unless you happen to be a supporter of the former Offical IRA/Workers Party ?

Dubhlinner wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Right sorry to the forum for a silly response but could you please justify that comment? Or at least tell me what you mean by it.

Are you trying to call me a marxist-leninist because I respect a journalist who was a member of the workers party in the 80s?

I like McDonald because he offers an unbiased take on what is going on. When I read his books and articles he offers evidence and reason for his opinions.

McDonald never tries to push any communist agenda in his writings. I actually have a sneaking suspicion he's sympathetic to the SDLP.

I've seen this "McDonald's a sticky" BS before. Sinn Fein supporters don't like him because he's pointed out very convincingly that anything the IRA and Sinn Fein achieved with the GFA was on offer in the sunningdale agreement of 1974.

For some reason they see it fit to answer the points made with "sher he's a sticky"

Fenian Army · 29-07-2012 10:11pm

In the first line of his book he says "This is nothing personal", gives him away immediately in my opinion. Doesn't mean his opinions are valueless of course.

That said I like him, just don't agree with him on some things. Compared to the majority of the media he is far less biased against SF and republicans than most - thats why the new supergroup chose him I'm sure. Better than Suzanne Breen anyway.

gandalf · 29-07-2012 10:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A zero tolerance, shoot to kill, ambush them, snipe them when they appear in public in uniforms, bomb hideouts/bomb making factories from the air instead of police raid approach is absolutely what is needed.

Totally different world post 9/11 and these guys are relics of a time gone by

That would be the worst way to deal with them.

They are nothing but common criminals caught up in their own little fantasy world where reality doesn't exist. They ignore that the majority on this island have rejected their way.

They should be treated like all the others who are on their level, the drug dealers, the muggers, the rapists and murderers and dealt with by the same laws and forces of the law. To treat them different would be to legitimise their undemocratic, invalid and rejected path.

29-07-2012 11:04pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

In the first line of his book he says "This is nothing personal", gives him away immediately in my opinion. Doesn't mean his opinions are valueless of course.

That said I like him, just don't agree with him on some things. Compared to the majority of the media he is far less biased against SF and republicans than most - thats why the new supergroup chose him I'm sure. Better than Suzanne Breen anyway.

Supergroup! I've heard it all now.

Hannibal · 30-07-2012 12:58am

Dubhlinner wrote: »

Right sorry to the forum for a silly response but could you please justify that comment? Or at least tell me what you mean by it.

Are you trying to call me a marxist-leninist because I respect a journalist who was a member of the workers party in the 80s?

I like McDonald because he offers an unbiased take on what is going on. When I read his books and articles he offers evidence and reason for his opinions.

McDonald never tries to push any communist agenda in his writings. I actually have a sneaking suspicion he's sympathetic to the SDLP.

I've seen this "McDonald's a sticky" BS before. Sinn Fein supporters don't like him because he's pointed out very convincingly that anything the IRA and Sinn Fein achieved with the GFA was on offer in the sunningdale agreement of 1974.

For some reason they see it fit to answer the points made with "sher he's a sticky"

Nowhere in the Sunningdale agreement is equality mentioned.

The issue of national identity and self-determination is not addressed in Sunningdale either which is/was a crucial part of the GFA. The GFA recognises the rights of both nationalities and Sunningdale crucially did not.

The framework and legal procedures for power sharing and intergovernmental cooperation was also not mentioned in Sunningdale.

Dubhlinner · 30-07-2012 1:46am

Dotsey wrote: »

Nowhere in the Sunningdale agreement is equality mentioned.

Equality was sorted out up there long before 98. Its wasn't needed its just propaganda. Recent report based on data since 1990 showed Catholics slightly more likely to be hired. This site obviously has a unionist take but the figures reported are factual (report actually done bythe equality commission)

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/protestants-losing-out-on-jobs-report-1-3867304

The issue of national identity and self-determination is not addressed in Sunningdale either which is/was a crucial part of the GFA. The GFA recognises the rights of both nationalities and Sunningdale crucially did not.

The framework and legal procedures for power sharing and intergovernmental cooperation was also not mentioned in Sunningdale.

Doesn't matter. Scotland didn't need an agreement and they're having a vote on independence in the not too distant future. The whole reason PIRA and Sinn Fein went to war was that they knew the six counties were always going to have a unionist veto due to demographics.

Executive Steve · 30-07-2012 1:50am

Suppose they're just hopping on the nostalgia bandwagon like the Spice Girls and The Stone Roses.

Although in fairness there's probably better singers in the IRA anyway.

Fair play to them.

thecommietommy · 30-07-2012 6:30pm

Dubhlinner wrote: »

Equality was sorted out up there long before 98. Its wasn't needed its just propaganda. Recent report based on data since 1990 showed Catholics slightly more likely to be hired. This site obviously has a unionist take but the figures reported are factual (report actually done bythe equality commission)

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/protestants-losing-out-on-jobs-report-1-3867304

Equality wasn't sorted out before 98 and was indeed needed. The report states " OVER the last 20 years ", 1990 - 97 is 7 years, 1998 - 2012 is 14 years.

Doesn't matter. Scotland didn't need an agreement and they're having a vote on independence in the not too distant future. The whole reason PIRA and Sinn Fein went to war was that they knew the six counties were always going to have a unionist veto due to demographics.

Although Scotland has had sectarianism around Glasgow mainly taking the form of Celtic and Rangers matches, it didn't have anything like the sectarian administration that the NI statelet had and is a different scenario.

Keitho Dublin 1 · 01-08-2012 5:26pm

The Real IRA must have went with this because of the Criminal Action Force, CAF shot a number of them dead over last two years, extortion, shakedown of money from gangs was the Real IRA game in Dublin, but quieter over last few months.

Fenian Army · 01-08-2012 6:03pm

CAF doesn't exist. Invention of idiotic journalists.

Keitho Dublin 1 · 01-08-2012 6:59pm

Fenian Army wrote: »

CAF doesn't exist. Invention of idiotic journalists.

Well who shot dead all the people ? CAF

CAF doesn't exist.

Saturday, November 6, 2010
IRA Statement

IRA Statement

The IRA's position regarding drug dealers is clear and our actions against them are motivated by the need to ensure the safety of the community.
These actions are welcomed by communities who are suffering at the hands of drug dealers.Recently, a number of newspapers have run stories claiming that the
IRA was involved in drugs and prostitution and that members of the Dublin Brigade had been stood down. The stories are lies.

Subsequently, the IRA sent a statement to the Irish Star Newspaper claiming responsibility for the execution of numerous drug dealers. The Star refused to carry the statement but instead carried statements from a Dublin drugs gang styling itself the "Criminal Action Force" which threatened republicans.

http://www.32csmdublin.com/2010.php

To people that there is no Criminal Action Force
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick O'Toole
Quote:
Originally Posted by keitho
Hi Mick,

I was a member of Irish Republican net i did start a number of threads on CAF, People on froum said there is not a CAF That it is only an idea of news paper can i have your view on this. ta
Hi.

I have read your posts on irishrepublicannet, so I know the background. All I can say is what I tell everyone else: every time they contact me/us they provide intimate details about shootings not in the public domain. For example, they informed us about a shooting in Wicklow that had not been revealed by gardai; they told us the calibre of the two weapons used to shoot at the Players' Lounge last July; they told us that an element of the Real IRA shot Liam Kenny (something his associates now accept, along with the attack on Frankie Nolan); they told us details of another murder which is now sub judice. The detail of that killing was that the victim, whose name I can't disclose, was walking his dog at the time. And, again, they said exactly what weapilon was used. None of the things they told us was in the public domain. Other journalists have derided the whole notion of CAF, and that's fine. But they are either good at guessing, or know stuff that no-one else knows. They have provided plenty of proof to us, I have to say.
Personally, I believe they exist 100 per cent, for the detaila outlined above.

Feel free to post this message on the site.
If anyone wishea to contact me, for praise or abuse, they can message me on politics.ie where my username is Mick O'Toole, or email me on michael.o'toole[at]thestar.ie

Michael

Well they seem to think so.

Keitho Dublin 1 · 01-08-2012 7:02pm

Keitho Dublin 1 wrote: »

Well who shot dead all the people ? CAF
CAF doesn't exist.

Saturday, November 6, 2010
IRA Statement

IRA Statement

The IRA's position regarding drug dealers is clear and our actions against them are motivated by the need to ensure the safety of the community.
These actions are welcomed by communities who are suffering at the hands of drug dealers.Recently, a number of newspapers have run stories claiming that the
IRA was involved in drugs and prostitution and that members of the Dublin Brigade had been stood down. The stories are lies.

Subsequently, the IRA sent a statement to the Irish Star Newspaper claiming responsibility for the execution of numerous drug dealers. The Star refused to carry the statement but instead carried statements from a Dublin drugs gang styling itself the "Criminal Action Force" which threatened republicans.

http://www.32csmdublin.com/2010.php

To people that there is no Criminal Action Force
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick O'Toole
Quote:
Originally Posted by keitho
Hi Mick,

I was a member of Irish Republican net i did start a number of threads on CAF, People on froum said there is not a CAF That it is only an idea of news paper can i have your view on this. ta
Hi.

I have read your posts on irishrepublicannet, so I know the background. All I can say is what I tell everyone else: every time they contact me/us they provide intimate details about shootings not in the public domain. For example, they informed us about a shooting in Wicklow that had not been revealed by gardai; they told us the calibre of the two weapons used to shoot at the Players' Lounge last July; they told us that an element of the Real IRA shot Liam Kenny (something his associates now accept, along with the attack on Frankie Nolan); they told us details of another murder which is now sub judice. The detail of that killing was that the victim, whose name I can't disclose, was walking his dog at the time. And, again, they said exactly what weapilon was used. None of the things they told us was in the public domain. Other journalists have derided the whole notion of CAF, and that's fine. But they are either good at guessing, or know stuff that no-one else knows. They have provided plenty of proof to us, I have to say.
Personally, I believe they exist 100 per cent, for the detaila outlined above.

Feel free to post this message on the site.
If anyone wishea to contact me, for praise or abuse, they can message me on politics.ie where my username is Mick O'Toole, or email me on michael.o'toole[at]thestar.ie

Michael

Well they seem to think so.

Since this post CAF said they have shot, killed a number of other people.

Physical force republican groups unite to form new IRA

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