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Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_




  • Moderators Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Azza


    New patch coming on the 21st of Febuary. Its out a few days before hand in the Aracades as well.

    Bug fixes. Changlog below.

    In the Car Crusher stage, a bug that made it impossible to advance has been fixed.

    Against specific characters, a bug that caused Juri to pass through her opponents when they were hit at point blank range with close standing medium punch has been fixed.

    Against specific characters, a bug that caused Dee Jay to pass through his opponents when executing close standing heavy kick super cancelled into heavy Sobat Carnival has been fixed.

    Against Sagat, a bug that caused Cody's EX Bad Stone to miss when Focus Attack Lv. 3 -> Dash -> EX Bad Stone was performed has been fixed.

    In SSFIV AE, a bug where Dudley's Step Straight caused an opponent's hit animation to not operate as expected has been fixed.

    Nice to see Capcom still supporting the game.

    I assume this latest update will be merged into the 2012 PC patch later this month as well.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I wish they'd fix the bug where sonic hurricane does no damage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    I wish they'd fix the bug where sonic hurricane does no damage
    Or where the game is really boring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Danonino.


    Sairus wrote: »
    Or where the game is really boring.


    True. My problem is Ryu is back with a vengeance in ae2012, getting sick of his voice, and his piss easy pressure, and his billion Ultra setups, and his wonky hitbox, and his 3 frame reversal, and his, his... his... face.


  • Moderators Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Azza


    Ryu has an easy pressure games and a wonky hitbox.

    News to me.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Azza wrote: »
    Ryu has an easy pressure games and a wonky hitbox.

    News to me.

    He certainly has an easy pressure game on Guile, but then anynoe who can 4 frame safe jump and can cross up correctly does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Yeah I wouldn't consider him to have either of those things really. As for the ultra setups, they don't really do a huge amount of damage or anything, it's nice for some characters to have variety in how they can set up their ultra.


  • Moderators Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Azza


    Everyone has an easy pressure game on Guiles wake up after a sweep or a throw. They just have to cross Guile up.

    Ryu's 4 frame safe jump set up comes off a sweep, which first he has to land (must likely off a frame trap). Guile should never be flashing kicking unless he can FADC after Ryu sweeps him.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Danonino.


    Azza wrote: »
    Ryu has an easy pressure games and a wonky hitbox.

    News to me.

    He sure does have a wonky hitbox along with Sakura. I play as Guy and any combo that includes his target combo is a no go unless you only use one crouching light. That means harder (and unsafe) run stop pressure, hit confirm combos are waaaaaay tighter and combos in general are made harder. You pretty much have to change every bnb you have due to stuff whiffing on him. Also Standing HK regularly pushes him too far to land FF chain too which is just weird and means you lose out on some usual punish damage to use something thats guaranteed to hit instead.


    I wasn't being serious in my first post though, as you can see everything that annoys me about Ryu (appart from how goddamn often I have to fight him) is actually down to my character choice so I cant really complain about anything. :pac:

    I suppose I'm getting dp'd in the face online too often by dudes mashing like heroes during block strings. Like heroes I tells ya. I'm also horribly jealous of any character who can FADC a reversal :P but 90% of Ryus I play are terribad so I guess it evens out :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    I've never had any problems with Ryu's hitboxes with any character I play fwiw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Ryu has always had a wonky hitbox since vanilla. Dhalsim's bnb hits every member of the cast fine except ryu. Headbutt doesn't hit him and you have to substitute headbutt for back medium kick or fierce.

    Lot's of combo's don't work on him properly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    Sakura's cl.hp xx tatsu > cr.hp xx tatsu > st.lk doesn't work on Ryu and that combo works on like 80-90% of the cast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Danonino.


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    I've never had any problems with Ryu's hitboxes with any character I play fwiw


    That kind of means nothing though, as I said its a Guy problem but I only said it because I was trying to explain why I was finding AE2012 a bit of a grind. I suppose I didn't stress this in my first post but I did in my second.

    Saying that you've had no problems with Ryu's hitboxes with the characters you play after I explained myself is like telling a T.Hawk player that every character you play has an easy time against Blanka.... I mean, its kind of pointless when hes talking about something thats T.Hawk specific. But I still have no idea why I'm trying to convince ye of something that doesn't matter in the slightest.

    If it turns out your trolling because I said Hitbox not hurtbox.... that would be pretty lame :pac:


    EDIT: man I'm slow at typing. Kirby and Fergus both replied as I was typing. Also this reads like I'm being a dick when that wasn't my intention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭Cobelcog


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    I've never had any problems with Ryu's hitboxes with any character I play fwiw

    you played yun you big numpty. cr.mp cr.mp st.mp xx dp ow8


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Oh yeah, that was just shoto hitbox though, not wonky just how they all are. Just had to use mk dp instead. Having to use different combos doesn't make the hitbix "wonky" - I'd consider that more stuff like the Juri/dudley/fuerte things of crossing through characters.

    I've plenty of issues with SF4 hitboxes but his hitbox isn't one of them.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Just a quick question guys. I went over 3000 PP recently and since then, I am being paired with of very high number of players over 3-4000 PP. Is there something in the games matchmaking system that causes this? I'm getting bodied quite often but learning lots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭stev0knev022


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Just a quick question guys. I went over 3000 PP recently and since then, I am being paired with of very high number of players over 3-4000 PP. Is there something in the games matchmaking system that causes this? I'm getting bodied quite often but learning lots.

    How r u doing this, the only trick i know about ranked matches is how to be paired with kens that have 2200pp and 14k bp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Just curious but I don't honestly remember my GFWL/AE SF4 ever getting an update

    It hasn't yet, the release date is "February" I think, but will include 2012 and the most recent console bugfix patch in one go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 955 ✭✭✭GorySnake


    S
    Cammy, Fei Long, Seth, Adon
    A
    Ryu, Vega (Claw), Sagat, C. Viper, Rufus, Ibuki, Makoto, Juri
    B
    Ken, E. Honda, Zangief, Guile, Dhalsim, Balrog (Boxer), M. Bison (Dictator), Abel, Akuma, Sakura, Rose, Gen, Dee Jay, Dudley, Cody, Guy, Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu, Oni
    C
    Chun-Li, Blanka, El Fuerte, Gouken
    D
    Hakan, Dan

    Tier list according to Kazunoko, I really want to know why Adon is considered top tier amongst a lot of the japanese players. I dont know anything about the character besides him being really annoying. Also would like to know whats so great about Vega now. Otherwise I agree with pretty much the whole list.


    :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    What the hell happened to Vega?

    Chun seems very low considering she didn't really change and a lot of her tough matches should have gotten easier. Wonder if that's influenced by the fact so many people dropped her in AE and maybe haven't picked her again.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I'm suprised Akuma is where he is too. Just one guys opinion though I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    He got mixed up with sfxt vega


  • Moderators Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Azza


    Hawks so bad he didn't even make the list.

    Anyway here's my Bison match up list for 2012.

    Cammy 4:6
    Fei Long 5:5
    Seth 4:6
    Adon 5:5
    Ryu 5:5
    Vega 6:4
    Sagat 5:5
    C. Viper 6:4
    Rufus 6:4
    Ibuki 6:4
    Makoto 5:5
    Juri 6:4
    Ken 5:5
    E. Honda 3.5:6.5
    Zangief 4:6
    Guile 3.5:6.5
    Dhalsim 5:5
    Balrog 5:5
    M. Bison 5:5,
    Abel 4:6
    Akuma 4:6
    Sakura 5.5:4.5
    Rose 6:4
    Gen 6:4
    Dee Jay 5.5:4.5
    Dudley 6:4
    Cody 5:5
    Guy 6:4
    Yun (No opinion)
    Yang,(No opinion)
    Evil Ryu 5:5
    Oni 5:5
    Chun-Li 4:6
    Blanka 5:5
    El Fuerte 6:4
    Gouken 6:4
    Hakan 6:4
    Dan 6:4
    T.Hawk 6:4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    Azza wrote: »
    Yun (No opinion)
    Yang,(No opinion)

    How come?


  • Moderators Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Azza


    Haven't played any in 2012 yet.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Azza wrote: »
    Haven't played any in 2012 yet.

    They're a rare breed alright! I think I have played 2 Yun and 0 Yang in Ranked since AE2012 was released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    Azza wrote: »
    Haven't played any in 2012 yet.
    FutureGuy wrote: »
    They're a rare breed alright! I think I have played 2 Yun and 0 Yang in Ranked since AE2012 was released.

    Dunno if Ramza is still rocking Yang, but his was pretty crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    FYI this game is now available on ''OnLive'' you can play a free 30 minute trial, for anyone having the urge whilst on holidays.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Dunno if Ramza is still rocking Yang, but his was pretty crazy.

    Yeah I played his Yun and Yang last night. His Yang makes you want to learn the character.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Misty Chaos


    I can't believe I'm saying this but I disagree with where Kazunoko placed Juri on his tier list, mid - to high B is more like it, not A. She is simply too flawed and has too many bad match ups in AE2012 to be A.

    Christ, whats wrong with me, I didn't have this defeatist attitude towards Juri when she was regarded as crap tier in Super.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    I can't believe I'm saying this but I disagree with where Kazunoko placed Juri on his tier list, mid - to high B is more like it, not A. She is simply too flawed and has too many bad match ups in AE2012 to be A.

    Christ, whats wrong with me, I didn't have this defeatist attitude towards Juri when she was regarded as crap tier in Super.

    Top tier whore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    I'm Loving Juri in AE.
    She is fast turning into to my new main.
    I'm only learning her but she seems really fun to play.
    Serious rush down if she wants plus a great keep away game as well.
    Must get some combos down with her Ultra 1..its buffed now in some way In't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    No way, in hell, is Adon "S" tier.

    A maybe, B definitely.
    But S is "braindead easy wins" tier (e.g. Vanilla Sagat, AE Yun) and Adon takes work and/or luck to win against half the cast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    No way in hell is blanka that high


  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Monkeyto


    Out of curiosity, Ryu Players: what keeps Ryu out of the S tier? He seems pretty solid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Suddenly Juri.

    I picked her up a couple months back, seems like everybody's doing it now though. pacman.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    I realise I'm a little late to the party given that SFxT just came out but I literally just got xbox live after months of playing SF just with friends etc. So if anyone wants to play my really bad chun-li my gamertag is kisaragi89 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    Monkeyto wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, Ryu Players: what keeps Ryu out of the S tier? He seems pretty solid.

    I think he is solid as well, possible that it could be there are some really bad matchups for Ryu. Cammy isn't great & Dhalsim is terrible.

    I wouldn't be an expert though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Cammy is 6-4 against Ryu imo, maybe 6.5-3.5. Have heard the Dhalsim match got a little better for Ryu in 2012 with the fireball damage buff (Sim can't just run away with the match by trading st.fierce with fireballs anymore). I'm sure it's still very tough though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Nugget Rage


    Hey! So I'm just getting on this forum for the first time now. I hear there's places to do drop in games for things like SSFIV in Dublin. I'm around Dublin 2 close to City Center. Are there still games that go on where people can drop in to play either for free or for whatever amount of money and play in a non-tourne setting? I'm still a novice at SSFIV and want to practice and hopefully get some helpful tips from some other players. Guy and Rose are usually my team- profound badness! Anyway, if anyone has info regarding these drop in gaming sessions (even if it's for games outside of SSFIV as well, like smash bros.,) please let me know.

    Thanks in advance for your help,
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Welcome to the forums! There are casual gaming sessions for lots of different fighting games held (usually) every Wednesday and Saturday in the Xtreme Gaming Centre on Liffey St. (near the Ha'Penny bridge on the Northside, across the road from Games Workshop).

    Some weeks there won't be any Saturday casuals as there'll be a tournament on in Dublin instead, but most weeks there are. Casuals are usually from 2 or 3 til about 10 or 11 PM.

    The popular games are:

    SSF4 2012
    Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3
    Street Fighter X Tekken
    BlazBlue
    Mortal Kombat 9
    Tekken 6
    King of Fighters XIII

    And sometimes others. New players are always welcome, hope to see you at a session sometime soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Nugget Rage


    Deadly, will definitely be sure to check it out soon. Hopefully this Saturday! Thanks again for the info.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Best DLC ever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    What's in the video?


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Doyler01


    DLC bosses in Asuras wrath.

    Ryu Akuma Evil Ryu. Looks fun.


    Would like to see Asura in marvel or sfxt


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy



    Ahh, it's DLC for Asura's Wrath, not AE...thank fook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    €apcom rip us off again. All that DLC is already on the SSF4 disc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Best DLC comment ever.


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