I found Money

The Rook · 27-02-2012 3:52pm

Recently found €20 at my feet in an aisle in Superquinn, handed it in to Customer Service.

They asked for my name and address in case nobody claimed it, but I told them not to worry about it , the lady straight away said that they'd put it into the charity box they have there as they've had that happen quite regularly apparently.

Turns out the €20 more than likely fell out of my own pocket, but I wasn't going to go back to Superquinn and look for the money back, someone who needs it more than I would will benefit.

I think the OP was expecting a swell of support for keeping the money & now that they didn't get the answer they were expecting is trying to rationalise it to themselves.

I'd give it to the Guards to deal with. It's not your money, never was and "finders keepers" is just infantile in my opinion.

Biggins · 27-02-2012 3:52pm

Broads.ie wrote: »

LoL @ the people talking about karma. They're probably religious too I guess.

Nope!

Broads.ie wrote: »

Feck it, let's turn this into an anti-christian thread.

Just for you then: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106392/Pope-Benedict-XVI-tells-infertile-couple-shun-arrogant-IVF-treatment-sex-husband-wife-acceptable-way-conceive.html

Eircom_Sucks · 27-02-2012 3:52pm

sooo many do gooders in here its unreal , i bet not 1 of you would hand it back

keep it op , don't mind the bullies

anytime i have a large amount of cash on me i make sure its in a good place , and i always check it evert few mins

Biggins · 27-02-2012 3:53pm

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

sooo many do gooders in here its unreal , i bet not 1 of you would hand it back

You would be wrong then.

lubo_moravcik · 27-02-2012 3:54pm

four18 wrote: »

Before you all jump up on your Moral high ground, Yes I am going to keep it. 6x50 euro in a white envelope. Its either me or the guard I hand it to at the station, and dont be telling me any different. I hate types that tell me to hand it in and probably rob stuff in work or live at home and hand up a pittance every week for their keep. AND if you still live at home, have the guts to share how much you hand up each week...Washing ironing, hot water, evening meal, open all hours fridge etc !! internet etc.

you go girl

rgmmg · 27-02-2012 3:58pm

Blow the € on hookers. It's their dilemma then.

gurramok · 27-02-2012 4:34pm

How many of you have checked to make sure you have your wallet on you since reading this thread?

frozenfrozen · 27-02-2012 4:36pm

gurramok wrote: »

How many of you have checked to make sure you have your wallet on you since reading this thread?

my wallet is leather and doesn't contain 300 quid!

carfiosaoorl · 27-02-2012 4:38pm

four18 wrote: »

Before you all jump up on your Moral high ground, Yes I am going to keep it. 6x50 euro in a white envelope. Its either me or the guard I hand it to at the station, and dont be telling me any different. I hate types that tell me to hand it in and probably rob stuff in work or live at home and hand up a pittance every week for their keep. AND if you still live at home, have the guts to share how much you hand up each week...Washing ironing, hot water, evening meal, open all hours fridge etc !! internet etc.

tsk liar:rolleyes:

blow69 · 27-02-2012 4:46pm

So have we all just accepted that karma is a credible belief system?

:eek:

useless · 27-02-2012 4:52pm

JustAddWater wrote: »

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for a cut of the €300, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you give me my money now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Mr. Mills?

pickarooney · 27-02-2012 4:56pm

Are you still an atheist if you believe in karma?

Nothingbetter2d · 27-02-2012 5:07pm

bbam wrote: »

In the late 70's my dad left £17k punt in a telephone box after making a call.

He went back 4 hours later and it was still there. Lucky escapee !

your dad was a rent boy back in the 70's?????

looksee · 27-02-2012 5:16pm

Years ago I was in our car with my family and I pointed out to my dad who was driving that a car in front had a handbag resting on the back bumper (old fashioned metal bumper). So he started flashing his lights and hooting the car and waving him to stop. Which of course he didn't as he thought we were crazies.

Anyway after a while he got fed up and pulled up, and we pulled up behind him, and he came back to us all ready to do road rage. Dad pointed out the handbag and the poor man nearly collapsed! He retrieved the bag and came back to say that they were setting out on holiday, and the bag had all their holiday money in it. I would imagine the missus got an earful though...

gamgsam · 27-02-2012 5:18pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Are you still an atheist if you believe in karma?

No you are just a dope!

:pac:

patwicklow · 27-02-2012 5:23pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Was the name Bertie on the envelope?

His ones are Brown though just like his ass licking nose

oranbhoy67 · 27-02-2012 5:28pm

funny how everyone keeps sayin its probaly some poor persons money for paying the bill .. or someones lifes savings etc ..how do we know it wasnt somebody who is evil`s money?? perhaps a drug dealer.. paedo .. or worse jedward??

Eire. · 27-02-2012 5:28pm

Well, as someone else said, it could be drug money so you may have done a good thing!! On the other hand it may not

I do think the guards would have kept it also. And If somebody so careless with that much money, they can't be that badly off!

lolz90 · 27-02-2012 5:31pm

I'm a student working a minimum wage job a few nights a week. Still living at home so realistically all I spend my few quid on is a few pints a week and cigarettes.

I was walking home from work a two months ago and I stopped in for a late night pint. Had never been in the pub before so the barmen wouldn't have recognised me at all. I ordered my pint and thought I handed over €5. Barman came back with €15 change. I told him I only gave him a fiver and thought that was the end of it. Went back to the pub a few weeks ago and the same barman asked if I was the lad who he gave the wrong change too. Said I was, and he handed me an envelope with €15. He said at the end of his shift he realised the till was over by €15 so he put my money in an envelope in the off chance I might come back.

Karma is alive and well. OP, you really should have handed that money in.

Seachmall · 27-02-2012 5:33pm

lolz90 wrote: »

Karma is alive and well.

Except someone probably got shortchanged by €15 and presumably didn't get their money back.

lolz90 · 27-02-2012 5:35pm

Seachmall wrote: »

Except someone probably got shortchanged by €15 and presumably didn't get their money back.

Sorry, first time poster. Probably wasn't clear enough. I was the lad who was shortchanged 15quid but it was my stupidity! Thought he gave me the wrong money so I handed it back to the barman.

foxyboxer · 27-02-2012 5:39pm

* Waits for the "I lost Money" opportunist thread.

austerity2012 · 27-02-2012 5:41pm

This is a true story.... about 4 years ago I was living in Phibsboro and walking down the main street right outside the library I found a purse. There was €210 in it but no form of ID. So I decided the best thing to do would be to hand it in to the library as I thought perhaps it may belong to a library user. I left my details with the librarian in case no one claimed the purse. A week later I get a phone call from a guy to thank me for handing the purse in.... it belonged to his elderly mother, she had just collected her pension that day and visited the library and was absolutely distraught that she lost her weeks pension. The gardai contacted the library to see if a purse had been found there and she told them that a lad...ie me...had handed one in. Anyway the old lady asked me to call round to hers and she handed me a card as a little thankyou and in it were 3 scratch cards... I won €50 on one of them!!!

Ellis Dee · 27-02-2012 5:45pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Are you still an atheist if you believe in karma?

Good question, and I believe the answer is "yes". After all, those who seem most conscious of karma are Buddhists, Hindus and Jains, and these are often regarded as atheistic philosophies rather than religions in the sense that we understand religion here in Western cultures.:)

Unlike the concept of "grace", as expounded by, e.g., the Catholic church, karma is not a matter of some kind of sky fairy or other immaterial deity recording our good and bad deeds in a big ledger and at the end of our lives totting up the total to see whether it is positive or negative. It is not a system of external accountability.:D

As I understand it, karma is an internal thing, your own dialogue with your own sense of right and wrong, your interaction with a kind of cognitive dissonance. If you override that internal voice that warns you to consider whether what you are doing is right, you eventually put a strain on your own psyche and this will eventually affect your judgement and cause you either to overreach or misstep. And then karma, your built-in moral gyrocompass, will level the score with you.:)

As for the OP finding by stealing, that is what it is. Although no great fan of the Gardai, I would not argue that all or even many of them are thieves. If the OP had handed in the money and asked for a receipt, there is little danger that it would have been stolen by a Garda. And he would have received it after a certain period of time, perhaps a year, in the event of the owner not turning up. He also had the option of sticking up a few flyers announcing that an unspecified sum of money had been found and inviting callers.

He will have no luck with the money.:D

Katgurl · 27-02-2012 5:51pm

Seriously OP??? How much joy can 300 bills bring you? Try find the owner. You don't know what the repurcussions will be for someone. And yes even IF it is drug money as apposed to someone struggling to pay bills / pensioner you could cause someone getting a serious beating.

It's not yours. It's not a life changing amount. Don't keep it.

pickarooney · 27-02-2012 5:51pm

Maybe it was an old person's money that they were going to use to buy drugs. What way should we wave our pitchforks then?

emeraldstar · 27-02-2012 5:52pm

foxyboxer wrote: »

* Waits for the "I lost Money" opportunist thread.

See post #22

PrincessLola · 27-02-2012 5:53pm

There is such thing as stealing by finding actually.
20 euro is one thing, but 300 could be to pay someone's rent or bills. When I was renting last year I had to pay my rent through the bank in cash, which I would hand over in a white envelope. Rent was half my wages, losing that would have completely screwed me.

That could be somone's wages either, you don't know. You obviously feel guilty about it, seeing as your coming on here justifying what you did.

Seachmall · 27-02-2012 6:01pm

PrincessLola wrote: »

There is such thing as stealing by finding actually.

That's debatable.

OT,
I lost ~€300 in college. It was the last of my savings and I needed it to visit friends of mine. Someone definitely found it because I lost it in a very small area with no more than a dozen or so people walking through and noticed it was missing within 10 minutes of losing it.

It was a nuisance but it'd be hypocritical of me to say the person who found it was in the wrong. I take full responsibility for losing it, what they did or didn't do with the money when they found it is up to them and I wouldn't judge them for it (partly because I'd keep it if I were them).

There's actually a decent chance they only got the €20 or so that was in the main compartment, I'd hidden most of the money behind my cards so if they didn't thoroughly check it they might have thrown the money out with the wallet.

Eire. · 27-02-2012 6:03pm

Very well written and funny

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 6:05pm

four18 wrote: »

I am keeping it, What would you suggest ? Garda station ? Not paying for a garda to go to coppers tonight. Would any of you pocket it ? be honest !

In fairness, do the right thing. Hand it in. At the very least ask your local radio station to put out that a sum of money has been found.

Kirby · 27-02-2012 6:09pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

In fairness, do the right thing. Hand it in. At the very least ask your local radio station to put out that a sum of money has been found.

There is no I.D. It's an envelope with cash. Whoever he hands it in to will just keep it.

How is giving the money to another random person to spend "doing the right thing"? That is doing the foolish thing. The amount of keyboard moralist's in here is just laughable. Talking about Karma and him deserving to get hit by a bus. He didn't steal it, there is no wallet or Identification so he has no way to return it.

purplepanda · 27-02-2012 6:11pm

Hand it back if you find cash in a public premises or similar, even if there wasn't no ID / purse containing the money. Because the owner will probably be calling asking people if it was handed back in.

However if I see a £20 note lying on a street pavement or road without ID it's becoming a beer token!!! I've dropped banknotes before whilst walking about town & I know there's no chance of me getting them back!! :rolleyes:

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 6:16pm

Kirby wrote: »

There is no I.D. It's an envelope with cash. Whoever he hands it in to will just keep it.

How is giving the money to another random person to spend "doing the right thing"? That is doing the foolish thing. The amount of keyboard moralist's in here is just laughable. Talking about Karma and him deserving to get hit by a bus. He didn't steal it, there is no wallet or Identification so he has no way to return it.

You cannot say that. FFS the person who lost it could be frantic with worry. No-one's being 'moral' - just compassionate. I hope YOU never find yourself in that person's place It could be food for the week/ESB bill/wages/anything. At the very least try the local radio option. Please.

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 6:19pm

austerity2012 wrote: »

This is a true story.... about 4 years ago I was living in Phibsboro and walking down the main street right outside the library I found a purse. There was €210 in it but no form of ID. So I decided the best thing to do would be to hand it in to the library as I thought perhaps it may belong to a library user. I left my details with the librarian in case no one claimed the purse. A week later I get a phone call from a guy to thank me for handing the purse in.... it belonged to his elderly mother, she had just collected her pension that day and visited the library and was absolutely distraught that she lost her weeks pension. The gardai contacted the library to see if a purse had been found there and she told them that a lad...ie me...had handed one in. Anyway the old lady asked me to call round to hers and she handed me a card as a little thankyou and in it were 3 scratch cards... I won €50 on one of them!!!

Well there ya have it. Well done my friend.:)

tony007 · 27-02-2012 6:21pm

Biggins wrote: »

I honestly would not wish a similar situation on anyone.

What about Hitler?

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 6:21pm

tony007 wrote: »

What about Hitler?

sf80 · 27-02-2012 6:22pm

tony007 wrote: »

What about Hitler?

Maybe he wouldn't have been such an asshole if someone had helped him out like that, what if, what if, what if

EddyC15 · 27-02-2012 6:24pm

Oh dear, oh dear OP!

You are feeling really, really guilty at the moment, I'd say. That's probably why you've written to us about it. We'll say "Oh yeah, fair play." and your guilt will wash away.

If you plan on keeping it yourself at least give a few quid to charity.

Stench Blossoms · 27-02-2012 6:25pm

I handed in 100e I found last Christmas. Got it sent back to me a year and a day later.

Happy Days.

No bad karma for me.

Kirby · 27-02-2012 6:25pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

You cannot say that. FFS the person who lost it could be frantic with worry. No-one's being 'moral' - just compassionate. I hope YOU never find yourself in that person's place It could be food for the week/ESB bill/wages/anything. At the very least try the local radio option. Please.

I have been in that situation. Most people have lost money at some point or another.

Finding a wallet with a name and address and keeping the contents or returning them is a moral decision. Finding cash on the street is not. Most people who lose money don't get it back because there is no real way to return it.

The person who lost it may be frantic with worry. That is unfortunate. But you are not helping them by letting the coppers keep it in a desk for a month. Handing it in is meant to make you feel pious or saintly. But it doesn't help the person who is down 300 quid. You are no more in the wrong or right than the OP. You just think you are. And thats all that matters.

aldridge09 · 27-02-2012 6:26pm

The most logical thing to do is contact your local garda station, advise them that you found a sum of money and give them your contact details - you can hold on to it and then after 12 months if nobody contacts you - happy spending. As far as I know if you do happen to give the money to your local gardai they will issue you with a receipt from a receipt book.

Do the honest thing and sleep easy

WoollyRedHat · 27-02-2012 6:47pm

Syllabus wrote: »

really just cements in my mind the type of site this place is - full of aul ones and holy molys

@OP - I'd have kept the money and said nowt on the net about it.

@all the goody two shoes - i'd have enjoyed it more cos it wasnt my money

Goody two shoes, what are we, 10?

aldridge09 wrote: »

The most logical thing to do is contact your local garda station, advise them that you found a sum of money and give them your contact details - you can hold on to it and then after 12 months if nobody contacts you - happy spending. As far as I know if you do happen to give the money to your local gardai they will issue you with a receipt from a receipt book.

Do the honest thing and sleep easy

This is what I thought would be the most logical conclusion, that way, the guard wouldn't nick the op's money

Pandora2 · 27-02-2012 6:59pm

OP......not going to judge you here but you are obviously out on your own and realising how expensive it is to maintain your life without the assistance of your family.;) Most of us have been there;)

Soooooo what if it was your money, your rent was due, no grub in the flat, ESB to be paid....would you find it easy to replace the sum.....would it cause you sleepless nights?? How long would you be in financial difficulty before you could leave it in the past??

Make an effort to do the right thing........you'll feel all the better for it!! Truly you will;)

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 7:01pm

Pandora2 wrote: »

OP......not going to judge you here but you are obviously out on your own and realising how expensive it is to maintain your life without the assistance of your family.;) Most of us have been there;)

Soooooo what if it was your money, your rent was due, no grub in the flat, ESB to be paid....would you find it easy to replace the sum.....would it cause you sleepless nights?? How long would you be in financial difficulty before you could leave it in the past??

Make an effort to do the right thing........you'll feel all the better for it!! Truly you will;)

Well said.

Freddie59 · 27-02-2012 7:03pm

Kirby wrote: »

I have been in that situation. Most people have lost money at some point or another.

Finding a wallet with a name and address and keeping the contents or returning them is a moral decision. Finding cash on the street is not. Most people who lose money don't get it back because there is no real way to return it.

The person who lost it may be frantic with worry. That is unfortunate. But you are not helping them by letting the coppers keep it in a desk for a month. Handing it in is meant to make you feel pious or saintly. But it doesn't help the person who is down 300 quid. You are no more in the wrong or right than the OP. You just think you are. And thats all that matters.

In fairness, unfortunate may not even cover it. Decimated probably would. pious? Saintly? Peculiar choice of words there. I would call it just being honest really. And compassionate. Even if there is a half-chance hand it in OP. I think you will in the end.

falan · 27-02-2012 7:19pm

JustAddWater wrote: »

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for a cut of the €300, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you give me my money now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVuE0lWAFY

Contains bad language...

Biggins · 27-02-2012 7:22pm

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

funny how everyone keeps sayin its probaly some poor persons money for paying the bill .. or someones lifes savings etc ..how do we know it wasnt somebody who is evil`s money?? perhaps a drug dealer.. paedo .. or worse jedward??

Because given any population that walk any streets, the VAST majority of them are people of more decent nature overall - not a probable much smaller minority that only we ever hear about in the news via crime.
It makes more sense then to assume that the person that lost it was, more chance of the vast majority of the above described - but then some that is so mean as to not be honest about handing it in, will jump on the lesser much minority of crooks and try and use the excuse "well of course, it must be theirs of course" more so!

mconigol · 27-02-2012 7:25pm

obvious troll.

Biggins · 27-02-2012 7:26pm

mconigol wrote: »

obvious troll.

Very more than likely but it created a good debate and overall, the result is good to see.

I found Money

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