Internet Explorer

CongressTart · 26-04-2012 10:33pm #1

I see an ad there for a relaunch of Internet Explorer. Do you think it will be able to catch up with Chrome and Firefox, or is it doomed forever?

FatherLen · 26-04-2012 10:35pm

yes

smash · 26-04-2012 10:35pm

It's f*cked

Eathrin · 26-04-2012 10:35pm

Hah, as much a chance as Yahoo becoming the leading search engine again.

admiralofthefleet · 26-04-2012 10:35pm

/googles internet explorer on firefox

cocoshovel · 26-04-2012 10:35pm

Oh god not a chance. *shudders*

MungBean · 26-04-2012 10:36pm

Bout time it pissed off and died I think.

ygolometsipe · 26-04-2012 10:36pm

relaunch = flogging a dead horse!

El Weirdo · 26-04-2012 10:37pm

Netscape Navigator is still better than IE.

Where To · 26-04-2012 10:38pm

What's Chrome and Firefox?

conor.hogan.2 · 26-04-2012 10:39pm

CongressTart wrote: »

I see an ad there for a relaunch of Internet Explorer. Do you think it will be able to catch up with Chrome and Firefox, or is it doomed forever?

Catch up with? It is still the biggest browser?!?

VampiricPadraig · 26-04-2012 10:39pm

IE6 is better than IE9

IM0 · 26-04-2012 10:42pm

smash wrote: »

It's f*cked

It'll survive with people who dont know any better [which is most]
but it can fcuk right off as far as Im concerned

Mr. Rager · 26-04-2012 10:42pm

Just no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFE4rkSaKOY

How Iron Man and a sports car are relevant to this video I'll never know.

smash · 26-04-2012 10:42pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

CongressTart wrote: »

I see an ad there for a relaunch of Internet Explorer. Do you think it will be able to catch up with Chrome and Firefox, or is it doomed forever?

Catch up with? It is still the biggest browser?!?

You're either taking the piss or living in the early 2000's

CongressTart · 26-04-2012 10:45pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Catch up with? It is still the biggest browser?!?

In third world countries where they haven't updated the internet, perhaps.

frozenfrozen · 26-04-2012 10:45pm

Steady decline since 2002. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

El Weirdo · 26-04-2012 10:46pm

Is it still "fuzzy"?

conor.hogan.2 · 26-04-2012 10:46pm

smash wrote: »

You're either taking the piss or living in the early 2000's

Post me up any links that show IE as being behind Chrome or FF?

http://www.statowl.com/web_browser_market_share.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

I do not use it but it is still the no1 browser by usage.

DitzyPoo92 · 26-04-2012 10:46pm

Doomed. DOOMED I TELLS YA!

Boards.ie: Neil · 26-04-2012 10:47pm

in fairness ie9 is good browser and is fairly standards compliant, ie10 will do more of the same.

microsoft have acknowledged that ie6 needs to go (it was a good browser back when it launched in 2003) so much so they created this site http://www.ie6countdown.com/ still 23% in china FFFFFUUUUU

BigBabyTaylor · 26-04-2012 10:48pm

No its awful. Design websites sometimes in college and they just dont work in IE for no reason at all.
What annoys me most though is that anytime I go onto it it asks me to switch my default browser to IE. Theres no box to say dont ask again or anything. Pisses me off

El Weirdo · 26-04-2012 10:49pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Post me up any links that show IE as being behind Chrome or FF?

http://www.statowl.com/web_browser_market_share.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

I do not use it but it is still the no1 browser by usage.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Where To · 26-04-2012 10:49pm

I turned on IE when this thread started and here I am 15 MINUTES LATER:mad:

conor.hogan.2 · 26-04-2012 10:50pm

El Weirdo wrote: »

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

http://w3fools.com/
Useless site.

Pretty much every other (actually respected websites) rank IE as still being no1 in terms of usage. I do not use it (even when I use Windows) and it is very very much on the decline but it is still the most used.

26-04-2012 10:51pm

Boards.ie: Neil wrote: »

in fairness ie9 is good browser and is fairly standards compliant, ie10 will do more of the same.

microsoft have acknowledged that ie6 needs to go (it was a good browser back when it launched in 2003) so much so they created this site http://www.ie6countdown.com/ still 23% in china FFFFFUUUUU

Probably due to the amount of people pirating XP in China. :pac:

I dropped IE about 18 months ago, I just thought the interface was a load of cack since IE7. However I wouldn't grill someone for using it, that's their choice. I don't try to preach my opinions on others.

titan18 · 26-04-2012 10:51pm

El Weirdo wrote: »

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Tbf, the vast majority of stats show IE as still being the biggest, but losing users. Also, the w3schools stats are pretty far away from everything else I've seen

DitzyPoo92 · 26-04-2012 10:55pm

The only reason why Internet Explorer is the most popular is because it's the internet browser that comes with all Microsoft PCs/laptops and most people are either too lazy to download a better browser or are totally clueless about computers.

Thrill · 26-04-2012 10:56pm

Where To wrote: »

I turned on IE when this thread started and here I am 15 MINUTES LATER:mad:

15 minutes!!

I just tried mine now, less than 10 seconds. (IE9 64-bit)

I forgot it existed.:)

chin_grin · 26-04-2012 11:00pm

Thrill wrote: »

15 minutes!!

I just tried mine now, less than 10 seconds. (IE9 64-bit)

I forgot it existed.:)

There's also a 64bit variant of firefox.....

http://waterfoxproject.org/

Boards.ie: Neil · 26-04-2012 11:01pm

BigBabyTaylor wrote: »

No its awful. Design websites sometimes in college and they just dont work in IE for no reason at all.
What annoys me most though is that anytime I go onto it it asks me to switch my default browser to IE. Theres no box to say dont ask again or anything. Pisses me off

i do it for a living :pac:, ie support is a pain in the balls i don't think you'll find anyone that argues that, but they are such a huge chunk of users you can't ignore them.

ie9 is the first browser that microsoft have released that there's very little tweaking needed to make a design work.

titan18 · 26-04-2012 11:02pm

DitzyPoo92 wrote: »

The only reason why Internet Explorer is the most popular is because it's the internet browser that comes with all Microsoft PCs/laptops and most people are either too lazy to download a better browser or are totally clueless about computers.

There are a lot of big companies still using IE6 or IE7 too.

gnfnrhead · 26-04-2012 11:04pm

Internet Explorer simply does what it says on the tin, which is exactly what the majority of people want. Firefox and Chrome are used by people who spend hours on the Internet each day. Internet Explorer is used by people who only spend a short period online. Not hard to see why it is still so popular, but in decline.

Personally, I think it's better than FireFox, which for some reason always seems to crash on me. Saying that, I still use Chrome or Maxthon most.

smash · 26-04-2012 11:22pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Useless site.

Pretty much every other (actually respected websites) rank IE as still being no1 in terms of usage. I do not use it (even when I use Windows) and it is very very much on the decline but it is still the most used.

To be frank, I really don't care what you think is a trusted or respected site. I manage websites for a few hundred clients and ie is not a leading browser in our stats.

conor.hogan.2 · 27-04-2012 12:56am

smash wrote: »

To be frank, I really don't care what you think is a trusted or respected site. I manage websites for a few hundred clients and ie is not a leading browser in our stats.

Stats in your websites are not indicative of the rest of the world, you likely have a more savvy audience which is great but it does not affect the rest of the world.

CrazyRabbit · 27-04-2012 1:40am

Internet Explorer is the best browser ever*

*for downloading Firefox, Chrome etc.

I love how they scatter the forward/backwards button, home button, refresh & stop buttons all over the screen.

And I'm particularly fond of not being able to add bookmarks by drag n dropping tabs into the favourites bar.

And you can't fault the plugin support!

But most of all...I really love that knowledge that there are a whole bunch of security holes that might allow someone to destroy my OS with malicious code. It's thrilling!

So in short....MS IE can **** off and die.

zenno · 27-04-2012 1:57am

Anyone that uses internet explorer is either completely computer illiterate or doesn't know what a browser is.

The amount of security vulnerabilities involved with internet explorer (and I mean all of them) are so bad that you would be better off just using no anti virus software at all because even if you are using a good anti virus software you will still be vulnerable to attacks and hacks of malicious code. It's time this explorer browser was dismantled and erased permanently.

Sure do you all remember this... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/20/uk-government-internet-explorer

I use firefox 10.0.2 and in kaspersky firewall i have internet explorer blocked as untrusted. Will not allow any communication between that browser and the internet. Not a chance.

Wompa1 · 27-04-2012 2:37am

zenno wrote: »

Anyone that uses internet explorer is either completely computer illiterate or doesn't know what a browser is.

The amount of security vulnerabilities involved with internet explorer (and I mean all of them) are so bad that you would be better off just using no anti virus software at all because even if you are using a good anti virus software you will still be vulnerable to attacks and hacks of malicious code. It's time this explorer browser was dismantled and erased permanently.

Sure do you all remember this... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/20/uk-government-internet-explorer

I use firefox 10.0.2 and in kaspersky firewall i have internet explorer blocked as untrusted. Will not allow any communication between that browser and the internet. Not a chance.

I have worked on over 10 IT projects for different companies. Every single one of them used IE. Like it or not but it still has a place in Enterprise because it is very secure compared to the likes of Google Chrome. Chrome has huge privacy concerns for firms that operate with sensetive information. The last few iterations of Firefox have been quite clunky.

I use Chrome myself at home and Firefox and IE9 at work. IE is going in the right direction now, I like the idea that each tab has it's own process so if one crashes the other tabs don't.

humbert · 27-04-2012 2:50am

Wompa1 wrote: »

I have worked on over 10 IT projects for different companies. Every single one of them used IE. Like it or not but it still has a place in Enterprise because it is very secure compared to the likes of Google Chrome. Chrome has huge privacy concerns for firms that operate with sensetive information. The last few iterations of Firefox have been quite clunky.

I use Chrome myself at home and Firefox and IE9 at work. IE is going in the right direction now, I like the idea that each tab has it's own process so if one crashes the other tabs don't.

If you think IE is used because it is more secure than Chrome you shouldn't be allowed in the same room as the IT staff.

kowloon · 27-04-2012 3:08am

I haven't bothered to change from IE on my current pc. Used Firefox before that. Might do it tomorrow...

challengemaster · 27-04-2012 4:07am

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Catch up with? It is still the biggest browser?!?

being used once to download another browser doesn't really count

The Internet Explorer · 27-04-2012 4:17am

Word.

Wompa1 · 27-04-2012 4:24am

humbert wrote: »

If you think IE is used because it is more secure than Chrome you shouldn't be allowed in the same room as the IT staff.

If you provide IT to a Bank or Medical company and you think Chrome is more secure than IE than you should not be allowed in the same room as the IT staff

Also please tell me which one's you work for so I can go somewhere else. I worked for an Irish bank before in my last job and their security was enough to make me pull my account!

If you are deploying it to your users and they are dealing with sensetive information you should reconsider! Take a look at caching in Google Chrome, also if you haven't already you should tweak your policies to lock it down. Even when it's at it's most lock down there's still huge security holes.

With IE, it's the enterprise leader, as quick as a bug is found a fix is issued and can be applied as an urgent update. Have a look at Googles release strategies.

Here's a link declaring Google Chrome to be the most secure browser. The comparison was carried out by Google:
http://blog.zonealarm.com/2012/02/which-web-browser-is-the-most-secure.html

Recent article about Chrome security flaws mentioning the Google bounty for hackers to try and crack Chrome.
http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/389-google-chrome-contains-critical-security-flaws.html

Rob Rankins comparison declaring IE8 and IE9 more secure, as he say's by a long shot
http://askbobrankin.com/which_browser_is_the_most_secure.html

I look forward to hearing your reasons why all the above mentioned are good things in a secure IT environment.

randomname2005 · 27-04-2012 5:02am

Most sites in Korea only work with IE and <a lot of >Active X plug-ins, making IE the biggest browser used here by far.

Snowbat · 27-04-2012 6:16am

titan18 wrote: »

El Weirdo wrote: »

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Tbf, the vast majority of stats show IE as still being the biggest, but losing users. Also, the w3schools stats are pretty far away from everything else I've seen

As they point out further down the page, their visitors are not average users:

W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to the browser that comes preinstalled with their computer, and do not seek out other browser alternatives.

A much better source of stats is http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm which is almost entirely wikipedia.org traffic (a top 6 site with neutral content).

Gummy Panda · 27-04-2012 7:03am

ITT: a load of geeks try to show off their e-peen to defend their favourite browser

Chad ghostal · 27-04-2012 7:31am

IE will remain king until Windows dies a death. It is the internet for a huge number of people. The same kind of people who google 'facebook' to get to their facebook page

mconigol · 27-04-2012 8:54am

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

/googles internet explorer on firefox

As one of the biggest tech companies on the planet Microsoft or Internet Explorer are going nowhere, of course it can bounce back

biko · 27-04-2012 8:58am

CongressTart wrote: »

I see an ad there for a relaunch of Internet Explorer. Do you think it will be able to catch up with Chrome and Firefox, or is it doomed forever?

IE is still the most used browser according to stats provided by posters in this thread.
Where do you get your info from?

biko · 27-04-2012 8:59am

randomname2005 wrote: »

Most sites in Korea only work with IE and <a lot of >Active X plug-ins, making IE the biggest browser used here by far.

Also most used browser in China still.

Eric Cartman · 27-04-2012 10:05am

Internet explorer is the workds greatest browser....for downloading other browsers

Internet Explorer

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