Cheating.. See Mod Note in Post 112

paulmclaughlin · 13-06-2011 6:54pm

Platinum2010 wrote: »

I'm Mathematically challenged and It wont apply really to the job I want but still It shows alot to have the leaving cert
hard work
endurance and strengths

not to mention If you get done for cheating imagine the shame ,
No one in my Family would hire you if you were done for cheating in the leaving ,Why? because it shows your character
It shows your sly and dishonest and un trustworthy
and no employer in the right mind would chose that over someone honest and unemployed with a family to feed

that's all very true. also shows you're determined to succeed haha

JamJamJamJam · 13-06-2011 6:56pm

StudiosStudent wrote: »

HE'S DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, DON'T YOU DARE REPORT HIM. God why are we as a group such an ungrateful bunch of people?!

If he gave them all foot massages it'd be nice of him too but come on! They just want their full exam time! :-P

Edit: On second thoughts, reporting him to the principal could be a bit unnecessary, but someone should ask him for extra time at the end!

BillabongMad · 13-06-2011 6:58pm

My room is perfect for cheating, I'm up the front and there's spots where the examiner couldn't see without looking. HOWEVER, I couldn't be arsed writing out small notes and putting them up there before the exam starts and then spend the time worrying about getting caught. I'd back out too, aha I'm too much of a chicken to do it.
Also the whole looking around and stuff is what I do

I can't write if someone is within a 1 meter radius of me, I just get paranoid and can't think. :']

Remember this folks, if you puke on your exam paper you automatically get a C2 or so I was told. :pac:

Griffen262 · 13-06-2011 6:58pm

*Awaits to see this thread content in national newspapers

RMD · 13-06-2011 6:59pm

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

I'm not cheating, I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.

Yes, but that person cheating could cost a person a spot on a course they genuinely would love to do. I don't think it's right to cheat and take a spot from a person who deserves it.

StudiosStudent wrote: »

HE'S DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, DON'T YOU DARE REPORT HIM. God why are we as a group such an ungrateful bunch of people?!

Having the 10 minutes hes taking up with prayers available is a lot more beneficial than a quick word with god.

paulmclaughlin · 13-06-2011 7:00pm

RMD wrote: »

Yes, but that person cheating could cost a person a spot on a course they genuinely would love to do. I don't think it's right to cheat and take a spot from a person who deserves it.

Already answered above, please read the whole thread...

J_E · 13-06-2011 7:01pm

BillabongMad wrote: »

Remember this folks, if you puke on your exam paper you automatically get a C2 or so I was told. :pac:

Should have done Higher Level Maths after all...

paulmclaughlin · 13-06-2011 7:03pm

Cydoniac wrote: »

Should have done Higher Level Maths after all...

Higher everything!

Platinum2010 · 13-06-2011 7:05pm

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

that's all very true. also shows you're determined to succeed haha

No!,
It shows you'll do anything to get what you want there's a difference
one is admirable the other means you'll steal from someone and not give a damn eg (college places)

paulmclaughlin · 13-06-2011 7:07pm

Platinum2010 wrote: »

No!,
It shows you'll do anything to get what you want there's a difference
one is admirable the other means you'll steal from someone and not give a damn eg (college places)

Yes I know, I was kidding, hence the "haha".

DaveMur1 · 13-06-2011 7:13pm

It's actually horrible the amount of cheating go on.
I blame the SEC , put 5 of us in a room with one old woman.
Honestly, I don't care because I know im doing better than all them anyway, here's a few ways I seen in the last week;

Phone, in answer booklet, at their sides, anywhere can find.

Swapping short questions, had to admit was funny seeing two booklets being swapped in geography , unaware to supervisor in her own world.

Prepared points in back calculator.

Having their own log tabes; Go in log tabes in hoody take off hoody thrownew log tabes in hoody, their own then appear on the desk.

Slipping pages into answer booklet then copying material down.

Pencil case, notes just looking up at them. Also in geography exam , having pencil cases designed with maps of america & Ireland drawn is hardly fair.

I really don't care though the people cheating look like their spending way too much exam time acting suspicious to get anywhere near a decent grade!

sideways83 · 13-06-2011 7:28pm

wel lads have only read through a bit of this thread.
but just be aware dont be given too much away/.
this is after all a public site.
dont want anyone shooting themselves in the foot:)

LaDeeDaa · 13-06-2011 7:31pm

Just finished my 4th day of exams and can tell you now I could of got straight A's if I wished to cheat.

-Our superintendent hands out our answer-booklets 40mins before each exam starts while we are sitting at our desks with all books and materials doing last minute revision. i.e lets all write a heap of stuff in them.

-Or why not get some help of the superintendent. Girl sitting across from me was working away at her graph in maths. Superintendent walking around, stops at her desk, points on her graph, whispers something in her ear to which she replies 'Oh, thanks a mill!'. THEN, walks away and returns back a minute later to check that she changed it right!

Its actually shocking how unprofessional he is!
Also are superintendents allowed to leave the room, for i dont no what!, on several occasions throughout an exam and tell the supervisor outside(a 5th year student) to supervise for a while?

-The fact he falls asleep probably won't phase you's at this stage!!

Catacomb · 13-06-2011 7:32pm

DaveMur1 wrote: »

It's actually horrible the amount of cheating go on.
I blame the SEC , put 5 of us in a room with one old woman.
Honestly, I don't care because I know im doing better than all them anyway, here's a few ways I seen in the last week;

Phone, in answer booklet, at their sides, anywhere can find.

Swapping short questions, had to admit was funny seeing two booklets being swapped in geography , unaware to supervisor in her own world.

Prepared points in back calculator.

Having their own log tabes; Go in log tabes in hoody take off hoody thrownew log tabes in hoody, their own then appear on the desk.

Slipping pages into answer booklet then copying material down.

Pencil case, notes just looking up at them. Also in geography exam , having pencil cases designed with maps of america & Ireland drawn is hardly fair.

I really don't care though the people cheating look like their spending way too much exam time acting suspicious to get anywhere near a decent grade!

lol, about 50 people in our year had "Ireland" pencil cases during geography :eek: But in fairness there is a map of ireland on the back of the OS-map so it's not really cheating, as far as I'm concerned they're just to stupid to use (or misuse) the OS map properly.

J_E · 13-06-2011 7:33pm

LaDeeDaa wrote: »

-Our superintendent hands out our answer-booklets 40mins before each exam starts while we are sitting at our desks with all books and materials doing last minute revision. i.e lets all write a heap of stuff in them.

Wait...you're allowed bring in your bags into the room!?

randylonghorn · 13-06-2011 7:35pm

Fbjm wrote: »

Our examiner says a ten minute prayer before every exam, making us late! He hadn't a notion where he is either half the time...

0_o

LaDeeDaa · 13-06-2011 7:36pm

Cydoniac wrote: »

Wait...you're allowed bring in your bags into the room!?

Oh yea. The first day we thought this was all normal craic. Unbelieveable!!

NotExactly · 13-06-2011 7:36pm

LaDeeDaa wrote: »

-Our superintendent hands out our answer-booklets 40mins before each exam starts while we are sitting at our desks with all books and materials doing last minute revision. i.e lets all write a heap of stuff in them.

Why are you in the exam center so early and also you shouldn't be allowed bring any books or bags or anything into the exam center

LaDeeDaa wrote: »

-Or why not get some help of the superintendent. Girl sitting across from me was working away at her graph in maths. Superintendent walking around, stops at her desk, points on her graph, whispers something in her ear to which she replies 'Oh, thanks a mill!'. THEN, walks away and returns back a minute later to check that she changed it right!

You should just worry about your own exam and performance , let the examiners do their job even if it is a bad one.

LMFAOFLOL · 13-06-2011 7:38pm

One of my friends had Irish essay notes in the pocket of her hoody. When she realised she had forgotten to take them out, she paniced and took them out to throw them away. The examiner happened to see her and they had a big chat about it. It was really awkward. She got reported in the end even though she wasn't cheating.

LaDeeDaa · 13-06-2011 7:39pm

NotExactly wrote: »

You should just worry about your own exam and performance , let the examiners do their job even if it is a bad one.

Oh dont worry, im not worried!:D .. just sharing my experiences

lol..

Just Like Heaven · 13-06-2011 7:50pm

LaDeeDaa wrote: »

Just finished my 4th day of exams and can tell you now I could of got straight A's if I wished to cheat.

-Our superintendent hands out our answer-booklets 40mins before each exam starts while we are sitting at our desks with all books and materials doing last minute revision. i.e lets all write a heap of stuff in them.

-Or why not get some help of the superintendent. Girl sitting across from me was working away at her graph in maths. Superintendent walking around, stops at her desk, points on her graph, whispers something in her ear to which she replies 'Oh, thanks a mill!'. THEN, walks away and returns back a minute later to check that she changed it right!

Its actually shocking how unprofessional he is!
Also are superintendents allowed to leave the room, for i dont no what!, on several occasions throughout an exam and tell the supervisor outside(a 5th year student) to supervise for a while?

-The fact he falls asleep probably won't phase you's at this stage!!

I want that one!!!!

The Shtig · 13-06-2011 7:50pm

I forgot I had my phone in my pocket the other day, luckily it didn't go off. I think the examiner would understand, she's a lovely lady!

I would be gutted though if I got my exam canceled out of my own stupidity.

Corkgirl18 · 13-06-2011 7:53pm

In another centre in my school, the examiner is helping the girls. She was helping anyone who needed help with maths yesterday. Thought it was totally unfair

LoonyLovegood · 13-06-2011 7:55pm

I was the supervisor outside the exam hall last year. I'm so glad I didn't catch anyone cheating, because I honestly don't know what I would have done. I know that there have been three people in my old school that have had exams cancelled thanks to it. There's almost 300 doing the LC this year there, so that makes it about 1% getting caught? Or is that just a huge amount in the one place?

BrendaN_f · 13-06-2011 7:59pm

CTYIgirl wrote: »

I was the supervisor outside the exam hall last year. I'm so glad I didn't catch anyone cheating, because I honestly don't know what I would have done. I know that there have been three people in my old school that have had exams cancelled thanks to it. There's almost 300 doing the LC this year there, so that makes it about 1% getting caught? Or is that just a huge amount in the one place?

your job, maybe? SEC really should have a stricter screening process

LilMissCiara · 13-06-2011 8:00pm

CTYIgirl wrote: »

I was the supervisor outside the exam hall last year. I'm so glad I didn't catch anyone cheating, because I honestly don't know what I would have done. I know that there have been three people in my old school that have had exams cancelled thanks to it. There's almost 300 doing the LC this year there, so that makes it about 1% getting caught? Or is that just a huge amount in the one place?

1% of students are caught cheating in your school but it obviously doesn't mean 1% of cheating students are caught in your school (that would mean all 300 cheat!)

LoonyLovegood · 13-06-2011 8:00pm

No! I meant 1% of EVERYONE is caught cheating.

mpdg · 13-06-2011 8:02pm

The Shtig wrote: »

I forgot I had my phone in my pocket the other day, luckily it didn't go off. I think the examiner would understand, she's a lovely lady! I would be gutted though if I got my exam canceled out of my own stupidity.

This happened to me twice so far. I feel so stupid! Today in Irish during the aural I had to rush in and when I sat down I noticed it.

what.to.do · 13-06-2011 8:04pm

BrendaN_f wrote: »

your job, maybe? SEC really should have a stricter screening process

In fairness, that's not part of the job description.

The job entails signing students out, and escorting them to the bathroom.
Making tea isn't even a specified part of it.

Platinum2010 · 13-06-2011 8:05pm

Someone above said they do last minute revision in the exam centre : that should be reported to SEC because its not fair :
God knows what they could be writing on the exam sheets we may aswell bring in our own refil pads to the exam right across the country if their allowed write things down in the answer booklets :mad:

LoonyLovegood · 13-06-2011 8:08pm

BrendaN_f wrote: »

your job, maybe? SEC really should have a stricter screening process

It's the schools that decide, not the SEC.

If you're left with some of your friends, it's hard to know what to do. It's easy to say that you would say it, but when it comes down to it, I actually don't know.

owenthorp7 · 13-06-2011 8:21pm

here do ye think you can get an exam cancelled if you write down C3 at the back page? A friend told me the corrector can cancel the whole paper. I done it for my second maths honours paper today saying ''C3 college'' on the last in the bottom corner. I really dont want to get it cancelled

FloatingVoter · 13-06-2011 8:28pm

I'm reading this with some amusement. However the SEC are watching these threads this year. The idle boasting and trolling whether true or not won't help anybody. I'm not an LC student but have memories of such. I do recall pre-internet what went on in the exam hall stayed in the exam hall.

An exception is that idiot saying prayers, if thats true - report him now not after he screws up someones exam. If not for you, for his own sake.

spurious · 13-06-2011 8:30pm

owenthorp7 wrote: »

here do ye think you can get an exam cancelled if you write down C3 at the back page? A friend told me the corrector can cancel the whole paper. I done it for my second maths honours paper today saying ''C3 college'' on the last in the bottom corner. I really dont want to get it cancelled

The examiner won't even bother trying to work out what your cryptic C3 college means.
Kind of a foolish thing to do though, don't you think?

GoldFour4 · 13-06-2011 8:31pm

owenthorp7 wrote: »

here do ye think you can get an exam cancelled if you write down C3 at the back page? A friend told me the corrector can cancel the whole paper. I done it for my second maths honours paper today saying ''C3 college'' on the last in the bottom corner. I really dont want to get it cancelled

Its hard to tell I suppose.They probably have a rule about it, might be on a website or something? Its defo frowned upon anyway.

owenthorp7 · 13-06-2011 8:34pm

spurious wrote: »

The examiner won't even bother trying to work out what your cryptic C3 college means.
Kind of a foolish thing to do though, don't you think?

Ah i just didnt want to be failed,as you may have heard higher level maths paper 1 went terrible and todays 2nd paper was ok and i didnt want to repeat next year so i just taught id hint it maybe a tiny bit of sympathy would pass me if i did barely fail. Should i check with my SEC supervisor or the schools designated head of exams just incase?

terryincork · 13-06-2011 8:34pm

This thread is hilarious.

Cheating is easy for most people when the examiner doesn't walk around regulary or actually looks for signs of cheating...I was right up the front beside the examiner last year so that alone prevented me, along with literally cacking my pants if I was ever caught so I worked hard instead.

Also, I was one of those people that brought them to the toilet etc in TY and found that someone had tacked around 10 pages of notes to the back of door in one of the cubicles and then wrote my name + DO NOT REMOVE above in permanent marker..I lol'd..

randylonghorn · 13-06-2011 8:51pm

Some posts deleted just to save someone being bothered with well-meaning but over-protective PMs ... not for any "ZOMG!! :eek:" reasons, just in case anyone leaps to silly conclusions! :rolleyes:

kilo1 · 13-06-2011 8:52pm

JamJamJamJam wrote: »

I'd flip! :-o

You're not the only one! I would completely freak out! :-O poor girl !

randylonghorn · 13-06-2011 8:53pm

owenthorp7 wrote: »

Should i check with my SEC supervisor or the schools designated head of exams just incase?

No, you should forget about it and have a wee bit of sense in future!

._. · 13-06-2011 8:55pm

randylonghorn wrote: »

Some posts deleted just to save someone being bothered with well-meaning but over-protective PMs ... not for any "ZOMG!! :eek:" reasons, just in case anyone leaps to silly conclusions! :rolleyes:

I guess I missed the action then

randylonghorn · 13-06-2011 8:57pm

._. wrote: »

I guess I missed the action then

Nope, there wasn't any action ... just a couple of people misreading a post and getting all concerned!

kilo1 · 13-06-2011 9:00pm

fewtinsoffroth wrote: »

I want that one!!!!

HAHA!! I think a vast majority of students would!! Sounds like my maths teacher to be honest!

owenthorp7 · 13-06-2011 9:01pm

randylonghorn wrote: »

No, you should forget about it and have a wee bit of sense in future!

cheers thanks im really stressing about it i just dont want to get it cancelled

Shifty11 · 13-06-2011 9:08pm

I get the feeling my examiner thinks I'm cheating. I sit down the back of the exam hall (classroom), and every time I look up, she's staring at me. Even when I stare back, she continues doing it! It's so awkward.

UrbanSea · 13-06-2011 9:15pm

Shifty11 wrote: »

I get the feeling my examiner thinks I'm cheating. I sit down the back of the exam hall (classroom), and every time I look up, she's staring at me. Even when I stare back, she continues doing it! It's so awkward.

Or else she wants you

paulmclaughlin · 13-06-2011 9:17pm

UrbanSea wrote: »

Or else she wants you

9/4 odds she wants him, taking bets now!

Shifty11 · 13-06-2011 9:17pm

UrbanSea wrote: »

Or else she wants you

Yeah.... Could be my dashing good looks.

PurpleVintage · 13-06-2011 9:24pm

"Remember this folks, if you puke on your exam paper you automatically get a C2 or so I was told.

"

Haha, is that for real? Gotta put it into practice for my History

jokin, terrified of throwing up, so I sure as hell wouldn't force myself to do something like that. But i'm curious, was that a joke or wot?

As for my thoughts on cheaters: Cancel their damn exams before they cost someone a place in college.
It's APPALLING to read about all the cheating that's going on. BIG WTF! I'm on the verge of failing History here, yet you dont see me considering resorting to something as low as that. Cheating means you're screwing with someone elses future. I've seen people on this forum be like "Leave them they're only affecting their results!!" but that's total simplistic BULL. If I study my arse off and get 410 points and some idiot comes in, cheats his way through the test, gets 415 points and the place that could've gone to me, goes to him, then THAT MEANS he's also interfering with my future. I'm not a snitch, I dislike people who snitch unnecessarily... but this is a serious case... and in serious cases like that, YOU SNITCH.

Some funny stories goin on here xD. Im totally stressed out over the amount of people cheating tho -_-. Making me feel even more insecure about my performance (which is already pretty BAD)

danieloneill · 13-06-2011 9:34pm

Can anyone help me here am new to all this so go eay on me.I was in a an exam today and seen a student in my class looking down at his phone while doing his exam glancing at the exam paper and at his phone.
The examiner clearly seen him but did nothing until his phone stated get a message noise which alerted the teacher.The teacher then told him to get rid of his phone and she stated that the exam should be cancelled but the exam carried on anyway.The student then started to claim he got away with cheating and many students made the same claim.What should i do??
I dont want to be seen as a snitch but its not fair on other students who have studied for the exam and made a real effort to get the points they need.Is there any way i can complain to someone about this? thanks

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