Best vehicle

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

If the outbreak is rapid and catches the majority of the population unawares then expect here to be large caches of fuel and food ripe for the pickings. Assuming you have a safe unobstructed route out of the city/town then I would take a large 4WD vehicle (and as per Manic Morans suggestion strap a bicycle to the back). It would be important to ensure that this vehicle had some sort of winch on it to help clear the inevitable wrecks and obstacles that you will encounter. It is important to note that in such a situation the undead will not be your only concern, desperate panicking people will more than likely try and relieve you of your transport which would be another plus for a large vehicle over a bike in this regard.

Ok a couple of points there; The Winch is a very good idea.But you do need to know how to use them properly and have time to set them up to do this properly.They are also very dangerous if you dont know,or over load them.A snapping steel cable under strain is as leathl as anything.It can physically whipsaw a person in two,or make complete ****e of your vechicle as well.
As to keeping your vechicle and supplies and what not.The best advice is avoid the panicking mobs and main arteries out of your city.IF you have to get out of Dodge in a hurry.The old adage is have a plan of threes.

That means three plans to leave your location in the city to your
destination or refuge.The plans must be able to stand on their own without support from each other.IOW say the roads are blocked out of Dublin,how else could you get out?Could you walk along the railway tracks North or South?Could you get a small RIB and if need be cruise down the old canal ways out of Dublin?Or could you use your 4WD to literally if need be bash thru a length of back gardens to get to a clear stretch of motorway or use back lanes to do so? You might want to considering staying put and hunker down until the inital chaos subsides abit.


Also,you want to be able to easily "up armour" your 4wd with pre made mesh or steel panels.That could preclude some modern designs.Its one reason military 4wds still have very boxy designs,like the Landrover,Humvee,Gwagon.It is easy to hang armour on them if need be.

[
TBH using a bike for lugging more supplies is only an advanced form of "bakpack survivalism" IOW the folk who belive they will carry everything they need on their backs to survive whatever calamaity.Those who preach this,I think have never actually done this in real life.I tried this once with my Bergen and it weighed over 90lbs with only a quater of what I needed.:eek: I'm relatively fit,but with 90 lbs on my back I wasnt able to totter much more than a few hundred yards.
Now chuck alot more onto your bike and chinzty little trailer..Like maybe 200lbs.[The Vietcong could put over 300lbs worth of gear and supplies on a old Pugeot bike and push it along jungle trails.] But what happens if you are jumped ?Can you bike out quicker with all that gear?
Your best bet would be to pre cache gear along your route to your safe haven wherever that is.
Another thing is ..You should try a load up the Bug out Vechicle [BOV] drill one day.Even with everything vital and prepacked and say 2hours to load up you will hardly have room to fit in you and the significant other.
One survivalist did it in the US for a years suply for a family of three.He needed a fourty foot truck!!!:eek:..Not a very discrete survival BOV..
So maybe you would want to leave earlier,or later when it has died down abit??

It is also important to note that if the outbreak lasts more than 12-18 months it really doesn't matter what the initial conditions were like or the remaining fuel supply, you are going to be pedaling everywhere by this stage. This is because the fuel in the tanks/petrol stations/depots will have gone bad (yes, petrol and diesel do have a use by date) so make sure to factor this into your plans.

Very true,but if you are a smart bear,will you have pre cached fuel and put fuel stabiliser in it as well??;) STA Bil fuel preserative will keep fuel useable for 3to 5 years. However,you wont be cruising around the place,or going for a drive post Z day..At that stage either things have gone totally tits up,and then maybe a horse or bike might be in order.Or we will be hombrewing fuel or diesel.Or using wood burner motors.

To summarise:

Slow infection/early stages: get into your 4*4 and away from the major cities before the masses

Leave VERY early.IF you can and there isnt a lockdown on the contaminated areas.Then figure out maybe a second plan of three.

Slow decline/middle to late stages: Only viable option is a bicycle due to lack of fuel and road conditions.

Possibly better then to 4x4 out as it might be all over too?
Fast infection early stage/middle stages: 4*4 once again

Anything over 12-18 months: Unlikely any motorised transport will work after regardless of volume of remaining stocks (unless you are able to make fresh bio diesel)

Very possible,but also bio diesel or bio ethanol or wood burner can be considerd.But again who is going to be road warrioring around the place?

Drunkmonkey79 wrote: »

Thats like a Zoolander truck, it needs to be at least 3 times bigger then that.

aaronh007 wrote: »

One of these please


Covered in masses of high-strength steel, aluminium, ceramic and opaque composites the car is heavily armoured in every aspect, features bullet-proof ballistic glass windows and high-resistance door hinges, just in case anyone tries to infiltrate the cabin. There’s even a special firewall compartment in between the engine bay and the cabin for extra protection.

norrie rugger wrote: »

Thinking diesel there is no shortage, as biodiesel is relatively easy to produce. Also remember that 99% of the population is gone. Using a couple of hundred litres a week is not going to dent the stocks. Each fuel station has thousands of litres of fuel