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  • #102
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    I like what Orange two has to say about ganging up on other's.

    A bit of a laugh is ok but a dog with a mallet up his a$$ knows well that their being ganged up on.

    It's not good for people who are trying to get their message across,to be segregated by a bunch of ignorant tossers who still live in the land of knob.

    If any of the know it all non believers text some of their correct mind boggling Queens English into a radio station I'm sure ye wouldn't get much air time.

    I was bored there one eve and I copied and pasted some of the atheists posts and re pasted them onto Google and did a search lads your not pulling the wool over my eyes.

    A lot of it is second hand information.

    Is there any chance the clones can assimilate back to originality.

    God is Good


  • #103
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Ah yes, the persecution complex, thread wouldn't be complete without it. So so predictable.

    It looks like this thread has turned into you just tryin to point score, no point discussing matters further.


  • #104
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Northclare wrote: »
    I like what Orange two has to say about ganging up on other's.

    A bit of a laugh is ok but a dog with a mallet up his a$$ knows well that their being ganged up on.

    It's not good for people who are trying to get their message across,to be segregated by a bunch of ignorant tossers who still live in the land of knob.

    If any of the know it all non believers text some of their correct mind boggling Queens English into a radio station I'm sure ye wouldn't get much air time.

    I was bored there one eve and I copied and pasted some of the atheists posts and re pasted them onto Google and did a search lads your not pulling the wool over my eyes.

    A lot of it is second hand information.

    Is there any chance the clones can assimilate back to originality.

    God is Good

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  • #105
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Atheists still can't convince me God doesn't exist.

    They can't have a normal slagging match.

    They come up with the same old "It's not logical" sure 20 years ago smart phones were not logical.

    Atheists and Believers are the same side of the one coin with out God there would be no atheists so lads thank God your Atheists.

    Now lads can ye just admit It's cool amongst your god fearing buddies to be atheists :)


  • #106
    ed2hands
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭ed2hands


    I tip my hat to you Northclare. Although i don't agree at all with your reactionary generalised views on the posters here, the statement below is quite possibly the funniest thing i've ever read on boards.ie:)
    Kudos!
    Northclare wrote: »
    A bit of a laugh is ok but a dog with a mallet up his a$$ knows well that their being ganged up on.


  • #107
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Northclare wrote: »
    a bunch of ignorant tossers who still live in the land of knob.
    You've been carded for that unhelpful comment. Please check out the forum charter before you post here again. Thanks.
    Northclare wrote: »
    I like what Orange two has to say about ganging up on other's. [...] the clones
    Please hold with respect to these two accounts.


  • #108
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Did any of you really expect, posting religious superstitious stuff on a forum mostly composed of atheists and agnostics, plenty of whom are scientifically inclined, that there would be plenty of people supportive of your posts? You're not being ganged up on. But everyone here is individually calling bullsh*t on poor arguments. If you feel you're being ganged up on, that's quite frankly your problem. Anyone unwilling to have someone disagree with them should probably have their mouth permanently sewn shut.
    Northclare wrote: »
    It's not good for people who are trying to get their message across,to be segregated by a bunch of ignorant tossers who still live in the land of knob.

    Well yes, but whenever we point this out, they get all uppity and go on about persecution and close-mindedness because we don't agree with them.
    If any of the know it all non believers text some of their correct mind boggling Queens English into a radio station I'm sure ye wouldn't get much air time.

    I think you'll find that easy to read text generally gets read more often. And you'll have a much better chance if you drop the snide insults.
    I was bored there one eve and I copied and pasted some of the atheists posts and re pasted them onto Google and did a search lads your not pulling the wool over my eyes.

    You're doing a damn fine job yourself. Do you expect there's to be as many correct ways of explaining something as there are ways of getting it wrong? That's not how it works, and you know it.
    A lot of it is second hand information.
    There's little need to go discovering evolution or gravity more than once. When an argument is correct, why change it?
    Is there any chance the clones can assimilate back to originality.

    God is Good

    The first sentence makes no sense. The second is merely incorrect.


  • #109
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Thanks LOL but I just got a message I could be barred for that Slight Rant.

    It's better than a rabbit with a cracker on its head LOL

    I'm well able to take it and give it but bar me Lol :)


  • #110
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Northclare wrote: »
    Atheists still can't convince me God doesn't exist.

    They can't have a normal slagging match.

    They come up with the same old "It's not logical" sure 20 years ago smart phones were not logical.

    Atheists and Believers are the same side of the one coin with out God there would be no atheists so lads thank God your Atheists.

    Now lads can ye just admit It's cool amongst your god fearing buddies to be atheists :)


    Weren't logical how?

    Humans are discovering that we can achieve anything! Science FICTION is rapidly becoming science FACT! You may notice that it's science that's behind our advances, not religion.

    Smart phones are way ahead of the tricorder's used in the old Star Trek. (There's even a tricorder app)


  • #111
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    I have my very own editor now.

    I love you guy's.

    :)


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  • #112
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    I have my very own editor now.

    I love you guy's.

    :)


  • #113
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Smartphones were always perfectly logical. Just because the technology wasn't small enough to make one 20 years ago doesn't change that. they're actually a direct consequence of logic.

    Try again, this is fun!


  • #114
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Northclare wrote: »
    Thanks LOL but I just got a message I could be barred for that Slight Rant.
    Please read your warning message more closely -- you've been carded for your unhelpful comment above. Your next violation of the forum charter will see you receiving a red card. The next after that will see you banned. You may appeal any moderator decision in the dispute resolution forum here.


  • #115
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Maybe a lesson to some that you don't have to gang up and bully somebody for having a different opinion.

    Disagreeing is not the same as bullying.
    Northclare wrote: »
    It's better than a rabbit with a cracker waffle on its head LOL

    FYP :pac:


  • #116
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    To get back on topic somewhat as we've seem to get side tracked in some crazy tangent.

    Why does god allow bad things to happen?

    Well i don't know, things just happen, i can't explain most things but i just accept that they are what they are. Science can't prove we evolved from apes, science can't prove how the earth was formed.

    Sure there are theories but i think people believe these scientists and their whack job theories a little too much. Just think these scientists thought the earth was flat, Just shows 'science' can be wrong.


  • #117
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    What pisses me off about some Atheists is that they seem to come to the conclusion of there being no god or super natural due to the fact that horrible things are allowed to happen in the world without any divine intervention.
    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    But some people say the likes of the USA (stay with me on this, I'm not trying to say the USA is a God:pac:) should not interfere in a country like Libya and let the civilization there overcome the regime.
    If there is a super natural perhaps it's similar thinking.

    It's also the same on the nature channels where humans try not to interfere with wildlife as it could upset the habitat.
    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    That's an interesting way to look at it, although the obvious counter argument is sometimes humans do interfere with wildlife with positive results (wildlife reserves and the like).
    Sarky wrote: »
    But you know why he sits back and allows obscene horrors happen to most of the world, right? You understand why it's ok for him to be the leading cause of abortions worldwide ever since a living creature could get pregnant? If you have explanations for why god acts exactly like utterly unmagical natural processes with no concern at all for what people actually believe, we'd love to hear them.

    Are you one of those people who automatically skips over Concern ads without looking at them in case you see something?




    There's a serious amount of facepalm in this thread. To all you "If God exists, why does he allow bad stuff to happen" type athiests, I have two words for you:








    FREE WILL








    Before yougo dissing an entire facet of life unique to humans since we were intelligent enough to believe there might be an afterlife, at least learn a bit about it.


  • #118
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Um, I'm not sure you quite aware of what science can and cannot do. And frankly OH DEAR at "whack job theory" and the flat earth bit. Please, read up a little bit on what constitutes scientific theory, and the history behind the whole flat earth thing.


  • #119
    Calibos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭Calibos


    My mind has been blown by the original, intelligent and well thought out arguements by our theistic friends and I will be converting to their belief system of choice forthwith.

    ..........meanwhile, in this dimension.......


  • #120
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    newmug wrote: »


    FREE WILL








    That doesn't hold up either. Could you try following that all the way to its logical conclusion?

    Also, you can make do with just one set of size tags...
    Before yougo dissing an entire facet of life unique to humans since we were intelligent enough to believe there might be an afterlife, at least learn a bit about it.

    That's the problem. We HAVE learned about it. And it's crap.


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  • #121
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    This thread is a...

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  • #122
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Calibos wrote: »
    My mind has been blown by the original, intelligent and well thought out arguements by our theistic friends and I will be converting to their belief system of choice forthwith.

    ..........meanwhile, in this dimension.......

    They do put up some good arguments. By 'good', I mean amusing.


  • #123
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    It's some laugh alright :)


  • #124
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    newmug wrote: »
    There's a serious amount of facepalm in this thread. To all you "If God exists, why does he allow bad stuff to happen" type athiests, I have two words for you:






    FREE WILL
    I have two for you:

    NATURAL DISASTERS



    So much for free will if the planet decides to kill your entire village.


  • #125
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    newmug wrote: »





    FREE WILL







    OK, as you are apparently well clued in on the whole subject, perhaps you can help me with a couple of points that give me some trouble. So, first of all, we are working on the basis that your god is this all loving, all powerful forgiving god that wants everyone to go to heaven. If that roughly correct? He then, even though he knew it would end in sh1t, gave us free will and sent us on our way. Awesome.

    So how does this free will cause natural disasters? What does a person have to do to cause, for example, a tsunami? Is everyone killed in a tsunami guilty of something? Does you god not realise how impressive his natural disasters would be if they only killed bad people?

    And what about all those little African kids that are born have absolutely horrible but mercifully short existence and die never even having heard of your god or his message of love. How, exactly, did their free will cause the appalling conditions they live in? I guess you will respond to that with the “evil warlord stealing the food supplies” gambit. Well played sir, but complete crap. You may have nasty people using drought and famine for self-profit, but they did not cause it, they did not allow it and no matter how much Aid they steal they most certainly aren’t preventing it from raining.

    The existence of your god, with the attribute that you say he has, makes no sense given what we see around us. I appreciate that you, for whatever reason, need to believe in this god. The problem is, we don’t. So, for you the excuse fo free will causes all the bad stuff, or the problem isn’t god it is us or we are the bad guys, makes a lot of sense to you. When you really, really, really want or need to believe something is true you will find a way of making it true, irrespective of what logic, reason and evidence tells you. We don’t have that problem. I don’t need your god to feel whole. I don’t need your god to help me sleep at night. I don’t need your god to give me a reason for my life. I don’t need your god to help me with my fear of death and the nothingness that comes after it. As a result of this I don’t need to believe the absolute bullsh1t you have to in order to rationalise the existence of your god with his particular set of attributes and the apparent lack of anything like your god that we se in the world around us.

    Wake up.

    MrP


  • #126
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Or.....
    GENETIC DISORDER

    newmug wrote: »
    Before yougo dissing an entire facet of life unique to humans since we were intelligent enough to believe there might be an afterlife, at least learn a bit about it.

    Quite...you're so intelligent you choose to worship a deliberately cruel bastard...lol


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  • #127
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


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  • #128
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    MrPudding wrote: »
    OK, as you are apparently well clued in on the whole subject, perhaps you can help me with a couple of points that give me some trouble. So, first of all, we are working on the basis that your god is this all loving, all powerful forgiving god that wants everyone to go to heaven. If that roughly correct? He then, even though he knew it would end in sh1t, gave us free will and sent us on our way. Awesome.

    So how does this free will cause natural disasters? What does a person have to do to cause, for example, a tsunami? Is everyone killed in a tsunami guilty of something? Does you god not realise how impressive his natural disasters would be if they only killed bad people?

    And what about all those little African kids that are born have absolutely horrible but mercifully short existence and die never even having heard of your god or his message of love. How, exactly, did their free will cause the appalling conditions they live in? I guess you will respond to that with the “evil warlord stealing the food supplies” gambit. Well played sir, but complete crap. You may have nasty people using drought and famine for self-profit, but they did not cause it, they did not allow it and no matter how much Aid they steal they most certainly aren’t preventing it from raining.

    The existence of your god, with the attribute that you say he has, makes no sense given what we see around us. I appreciate that you, for whatever reason, need to believe in this god. The problem is, we don’t. So, for you the excuse fo free will causes all the bad stuff, or the problem isn’t god it is us or we are the bad guys, makes a lot of sense to you. When you really, really, really want or need to believe something is true you will find a way of making it true, irrespective of what logic, reason and evidence tells you. We don’t have that problem. I don’t need your god to feel whole. I don’t need your god to help me sleep at night. I don’t need your god to give me a reason for my life. I don’t need your god to help me with my fear of death and the nothingness that comes after it. As a result of this I don’t need to believe the absolute bullsh1t you have to in order to rationalise the existence of your god with his particular set of attributes and the apparent lack of anything like your god that we se in the world around us.

    Wake up.

    MrP

    What you talkin bout Willis?

    It does rain in Africa!


  • #129
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    What you talkin bout Willis?

    It does rain in Africa!
    I assume your next post will be an actual reply to the points made here, because if it's not I'm going to have to assume you are just wasting people's time here and take action.


  • #130
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    "It rains in Africa" is a little bit like saying people have Dublin accents in the UK. Completely misses the scale of the thing.


  • #131
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Ickle Magoo wrote: »
    you choose to worship a deliberately cruel bastard...
    Well, wouldn't you do whatever it took to stop being burned in a lake of theological sulphur if you actually believed that stuff?


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  • #132
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    robindch wrote: »
    Well, wouldn't you do whatever it took to stop being burned in a lake of theological sulphur if you actually believed that stuff?

    Does that include making up ludicrous defences in order to avoid accepting/admitting what kind of god I defer to?


  • #133
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why does god allow bad things to happen?

    Well i don't know, things just happen, i can't explain most things but i just accept that they are what they are.
    This is not an answer to the question. This is an admission that your explanation has a giant gaping hole in it that you cannot correct.

    So since you can't explain this failing, why do you pick God as an explanation?
    Why do you think that it is a valid opinion when you have this giant gap in it?


  • #134
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Ickle Magoo wrote: »
    Does that include making up ludicrous defences in order to avoid accepting/admitting what kind of god I defer to?
    That's what theodicy is all about.


  • #135
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    newmug wrote: »

    FREE WILL



    Before yougo dissing an entire facet of life unique to humans since we were intelligent enough to believe there might be an afterlife, at least learn a bit about it.
    So then what about all those times in the bible God directly interferes with humans and often murders them straight out?
    Are they not examples of him ignoring free will?

    Or do you just not know much about the bible?


  • #136
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Nature in us grows dark when we have no road.

    :)


  • #137
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Northclare wrote: »
    Nature in us grows dark when we have no road.

    :)

    Your road is like all roads, built by people.


  • #138
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Northclare wrote: »
    Nature in us grows dark when we have no road.

    :)
    The warning I gave your buddy applies to you too.
    Dades wrote: »
    I assume your next post will be an actual reply to the points made here, because if it's not I'm going to have to assume you are just wasting people's time here and take action.


  • #139
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    King Mob wrote: »
    This is not an answer to the question. This is an admission that your explanation has a giant gaping hole in it that you cannot correct.

    So since you can't explain this failing, why do you pick God as an explanation?
    Why do you think that it is a valid opinion when you have this giant gap in it?

    I cant remember you're question but if its why do I believe in God?


    I feel very blessed.

    Like how many people are poor, how many people dont have access to clean water, how many people are in bad health?

    I'm none of those things, I live a good life, it could be better but it could be a hell of a lot worse, and for this reason I'm thankful.

    Why doesnt God make everybody rich and happy so?

    Again I dont know, perhaps God left the running of the world in the hands of man and this is the result.

    Why do natural disasters happen?

    NOt all disasters are bad, also humans arent the only species on earth. When floods happen, some species prosper while others dont, it's the circle of life, and we as humans have to live as one in perfect harmony with nature.

    Also take Haiti, I remember seeing an interview and a woman said that the earthquake was like a blessing, many died but the attention and money poured into it after majorly improved the standard of living there.


  • #140
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I cant remember you're question but if its why do I believe in God?

    I feel very blessed.

    Like how many people are poor, how many people dont have access to clean water, how many people are in bad health?

    I'm none of those things, I live a good life, it could be better but it could be a hell of a lot worse, and for this reason I'm thankful.
    So basically, you just decided to believe that god gave you all this stuff because you are special, then not question anything?
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why doesnt God make everybody rich and happy so?

    Again I dont know, perhaps God left the running of the world in the hands of man and this is the result.
    So then why did he pick you to be nice do? Just good luck? That he loves you more than others?
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why do natural disasters happen?

    NOt all disasters are bad, also humans arent the only species on earth. When floods happen, some species prosper while others dont, it's the circle of life, and we as humans have to live as one in perfect harmony with nature.
    Cept we can't "live in harmony" with earthquakes or volcanoes or viruses regardless of how nice and fluffy that sounds.
    There's no sane reason why God would put these in the world if he was all loving.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Also take Haiti, I remember seeing an interview and a woman said that the earthquake was like a blessing, many died but the attention and money poured into it after majorly improved the standard of living there.
    Lol.
    So leaving aside how horrifyingly disgusting that is, can you please then explain why god couldn't have done all this supposed good without killing people?
    Why couldn't he has say taken over the minds of some very rich people and used them to improve the standard of living there?


  • #141
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    King Mob wrote: »
    So basically, you just decided to believe that god gave you all this stuff because you are special, then not question anything?


    So then why did he pick you to be nice do? Just good luck? That he loves you more than others?


    Cept we can't "live in harmony" with earthquakes or volcanoes or viruses regardless of how nice and fluffy that sounds.
    There's no sane reason why God would put these in the world if he was all loving.


    Lol.
    So leaving aside how horrifyingly disgusting that is, can you please then explain why god couldn't have done all this supposed good without killing people?
    Why couldn't he has say taken over the minds of some very rich people and used them to improve the standard of living there?
    Genesis 1, 26 -Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

    So God made everything then let man/woman rule the earth. And we made a balls of it.


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  • #142
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Also take Haiti, I remember seeing an interview and a woman said that the earthquake was like a blessing, many died but the attention and money poured into it after majorly improved the standard of living there.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203918304577243530660428106.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
    Two years after the quake, more than half a million Haitians, out of an original 1.5 million made homeless, are living in overcrowded and squalid make-shift tent cities.
    Methinks God's "urban renewal" plan is somewhat lacking.


  • #143
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    So God made everything then let man/woman rule the earth. And we made a balls of it.
    But we can't possibly control earthquakes or volcanoes or the horrible, crippling diseases and genetic abnormalities that you think God put into the world.

    How exactly do you think we caused them?


  • #144
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    King Mob wrote: »
    But we can't possibly control earthquakes or volcanoes or the horrible, crippling diseases and genetic abnormalities that you think God put into the world.

    How exactly do you think we caused them?

    And where exactly did I say we control earthquakes and volcanoes, you're lack of reading what I actually write has landed on my ban list.

    Good day!


  • #145
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    And where exactly did I say we control earthquakes and volcanoes, you're lack of reading what I actually write has landed on my ban list.

    Good day!
    Lol. I love the irony.


  • #146
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Dades wrote: »
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203918304577243530660428106.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


    Methinks God's "urban renewal" plan is somewhat lacking.



    Haiti was one of the poorest countries in the world before the quake, it's still one of the poorest counties after, the poorest of the poor countries dont magically become proper societies after 2 years, after a few years, the fact that people look like they have some quality of life shows how far its come, a little perspective is needed when you're talking about a country in the bottom 10 poorest countries before the quake.


  • #147
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Haiti was one of the poorest countries in the world before the quake, it's still one of the poorest counties after, the poorest of the poor countries dont magically become proper societies after 2 years, after a few years, the fact that people look like they have some quality of life shows how far its come, a little perspective is needed when you're talking about a country in the bottom 10 poorest countries before the quake.
    Lol, yet more irony.
    If only there was someone or somebeing who could actually perform magic...:rolleyes:


  • #148
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    King Mob wrote: »
    But we can't possibly control earthquakes or volcanoes or the horrible, crippling diseases and genetic abnormalities that you think God put into the world.

    How exactly do you think we caused them?
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    So God made everything then let man/woman rule the earth. And we made a balls of it.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    And where exactly did I say we control earthquakes and volcanoes, you're lack of reading what I actually write has landed on my ban list.

    Good day!
    Saying that God lets us rule everything implies that we somehow have control over these things.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Also take Haiti, I remember seeing an interview and a woman said that the earthquake was like a blessing, many died but the attention and money poured into it after majorly improved the standard of living there.
    Dades wrote: »
    Two years after the quake, more than half a million Haitians, out of an original 1.5 million made homeless, are living in overcrowded and squalid make-shift tent cities.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Haiti was one of the poorest countries in the world before the quake, it's still one of the poorest counties after, the poorest of the poor countries dont magically become proper societies after 2 years, after a few years, the fact that people look like they have some quality of life shows how far its come, a little perspective is needed when you're talking about a country in the bottom 10 poorest countries before the quake.
    You're just contradicting yourself now. Either the standard of living in Haiti has majorly improved OR hundreds of thousands of people are living in squalor. Which is it?


  • #149
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Haiti was one of the poorest countries in the world before the quake, it's still one of the poorest counties after, the poorest of the poor countries dont magically become proper societies after 2 years, after a few years, the fact that people look like they have some quality of life shows how far its come, a little perspective is needed when you're talking about a country in the bottom 10 poorest countries before the quake.
    What are you talking about?

    There is today a half-million MORE people homeless AFTER the earthquake than there was BEFORE the earthquake.
    The place was bad to begin with and is now worse.

    Can we just say "God moves in mysterious ways" and be done with it? Because we all know that's where we're headed.


  • #150
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    kylith wrote: »
    Saying that God lets us rule everything implies that we somehow have control over these things.

    So if I say Julius Caesar ruled the Roman Empire that somehow implies he had control of volcanoes and earthquakes in the Roman empire?

    You're just contradicting yourself now. Either the standard of living in Haiti has majorly improved OR hundreds of thousands of people are living in squalor. Which is it?

    Nope, its not an either-or question, they lived in squalor before the quake and now they still live in squalor but the standard of living has improved for them. Some would argue the emergency shelters are actually better than what they had before.


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  • #151
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    they lived in squalor before the quake and now they still live in squalor but the standard of living has improved for them.
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