Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

joeKel73 · 25-05-2012 2:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that helicopter generating a lot of heat, or is there just a strange blur added to the image behind it?

No blur added to the image - that's how it was. The stream coming out of the exhaust has a very refined edge!

26-05-2012 1:09pm

That's a bit mad looking, alright. There's no sign of such from the Garda helicopter when I seen it. Could it be a less powerful engine or such?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9360/p9112609.jpg

(that was on a pretty warm day though, does the temperature out matter? Would that be more noticeable on a cold day?). I never seen anything like it. It looks really odd.

cocoshovel · 27-05-2012 4:25pm

If you look the at the general area the blur is coming from you can see the exhaust from the engine. Im dont know much about helicopters either, but as far as im aware there is some sort of turbo propulsion or something in there (not sure how to say it exactly). Ask the aviation & aircraft forum.

goldie fish · 27-05-2012 4:50pm

cocoshovel wrote: »

If you look the at the general area the blur is coming from you can see the exhaust from the engine. Im dont know much about helicopters either, but as far as im aware there is some sort of turbo propulsion or something in there (not sure how to say it exactly). Ask the aviation & aircraft forum.

Its called a jet engine.

source · 27-05-2012 5:39pm

goldie fish wrote: »

cocoshovel wrote: »

If you look the at the general area the blur is coming from you can see the exhaust from the engine. Im dont know much about helicopters either, but as far as im aware there is some sort of turbo propulsion or something in there (not sure how to say it exactly). Ask the aviation & aircraft forum.

Its called a jet engine.

Well a turboshaft (gas turbine) engine if we're going to be correct about it.

cocoshovel · 27-05-2012 9:52pm

goldie fish wrote: »

Its called a jet engine.

Yeah. I wasnt sure if calling it that was correct so forgive me. The only think I know is piston engines, turboprop engines, and jet engine planes :pac:

flazio · 05-06-2012 11:07pm

I'll say it here so as not to infringe the rules but yes, that HSE spec ambulance was imported from the UK, I first saw it when it was still on UK plates, it replaces a 99 Merc Sprinter which was imported from Wales. That Ambulance even had all the safety messages in Welsh and English inside.

kub · 19-06-2012 11:33pm

I wonder does anyone know but, does the Mets 'Teapot 1' have Blues & Two's? Could be handy.

Mister Jingles · 19-06-2012 11:49pm

Probably an unmarked that got stickers put on ?

Bosh · 20-06-2012 10:32am

Yeah, bunch of silver & white unmarked cars were taken back & marked up.

Titanic & deckchairs... :rolleyes:

Mister Jingles · 20-06-2012 11:35am

There's a white unmarked around blanch/finglas. Wonder how long before they do something with it. Wonder what clown had the idea of having white unmarked cars ?

Mr Simpson · 20-06-2012 12:45pm

Mister Jingles wrote: »

There's a white unmarked around blanch/finglas. Wonder how long before they do something with it. Wonder what clown had the idea of having white unmarked cars ?

Unmarked cars aren't necessarily meant to be inconspicuous, its just cheaper than marking them up. So it doesn't really matter if it sticks out like a sore thumb

Terrontress · 20-06-2012 12:58pm

mmcn90 wrote: »

Mister Jingles wrote: »

There's a white unmarked around blanch/finglas. Wonder how long before they do something with it. Wonder what clown had the idea of having white unmarked cars ?

Unmarked cars aren't necessarily meant to be inconspicuous, its just cheaper than marking them up. So it doesn't really matter if it sticks out like a sore thumb

I'm impressed they spent a few extra quid on metallic paint for that Focus.

source · 20-06-2012 9:41pm

Is it me or is that a jag beside the focus?

That'd be nice to see marked up.

Mr Simpson · 20-06-2012 11:26pm

source wrote: »

Is it me or is that a jag beside the focus?

That'd be nice to see marked up.

I doubt its a Garda car, it seems to have Tax, insurance and NCT disks. Although it would look class marked up

starviewadams · 21-06-2012 6:41pm

Saw a very nice marked Saab patrol car parked up in the yard in Clondalkin Garda Station today,never saw a marked one before,very sleek looking.

goldie fish · 21-06-2012 6:49pm

Saab goin cheap now since they went wallop.

d3exile · 21-06-2012 7:23pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Saw a very nice marked Saab patrol car parked up in the yard in Clondalkin Garda Station today,never saw a marked one before,very sleek looking.

Prob an old one? They got three for the EU presidency bit, one met a wall, one was in the supts parking spot in the castle with a cover on it for a few years, dunno bout the third, all leather heated seats etc, high spec cars and so on... Rare!

Haven't heard of any new ones coming in unless it was one of the trial ones

one2one · 21-06-2012 9:40pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Saw a very nice marked Saab patrol car parked up in the yard in Clondalkin Garda Station today,never saw a marked one before,very sleek looking.

Not new :

http://www.google.ie/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=606&tbm=isch&tbnid=GWDHZwNYlHVIKM:&imgrefurl=http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/648.html&docid=3k-zD_ya5ON0OM&imgurl=http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/misc/fckeditorFiles/image/PEDESTRIANS/garda_saab_1.jpg&w=800&h=534&ei=i4bjT9XcAYm7hAebwOHQAw&zoom=1

kub · 21-06-2012 11:56pm

I see that picture of the marked Saab was taken in 2005. How come it has battenburg markings and is not traffic or ASU?

Mr Simpson · 27-06-2012 12:37pm

Anyone know why they've marked up a UK BMW, testing for a tender?

27-06-2012 12:40pm

mmcn90 wrote: »

Anyone know why they've marked up a UK BMW, testing for a tender?

It's a demo model. Companies supply cars and bike for demo from time to time.

kub · 27-06-2012 2:48pm

foreign wrote: »

It's a demo model. Companies supply cars and bike for demo from time to time.

Does anyone here think that they will actually purchase BMW's? I imagine that perhaps the tender is open and as per usual its the cheapest will win the contract, so it will probably be some type of renault.

POGAN · 27-06-2012 3:33pm

kub wrote: »

Does anyone here think that they will actually purchase BMW's? I imagine that perhaps the tender is open and as per usual its the cheapest will win the contract, so it will probably be some type of renault.

ford won the current tender

starviewadams · 27-06-2012 3:42pm

one2one wrote: »

Not new :

http://www.google.ie/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=606&tbm=isch&tbnid=GWDHZwNYlHVIKM:&imgrefurl=http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/648.html&docid=3k-zD_ya5ON0OM&imgurl=http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/misc/fckeditorFiles/image/PEDESTRIANS/garda_saab_1.jpg&w=800&h=534&ei=i4bjT9XcAYm7hAebwOHQAw&zoom=1

Looked like that model allright but had a more recent looking paintjob,maybe it was re-sprayed or something.Will try and get a pic of it if I spot it again.

belacqua_ · 27-06-2012 3:58pm

POGAN wrote: »

ford won the current tender

Is this a post-Avensis tender? If so, do you have any more details--what models did they go for?

POGAN · 27-06-2012 4:05pm

belacqua_ wrote: »

Is this a post-Avensis tender? If so, do you have any more details--what models did they go for?

Yes after the toyota one, it was awarded last month i think, dont know what model or anything. heard could be estate focus like the regular 10 reg one around dublin, but id love to see some bmws on the road, theres bmw x5 aswell marked up for traffic with english reg on it at the moment

27-06-2012 6:57pm

Jesus, how long was the contract for!? Feels like Toyota only signed up yesterday.

POGAN · 27-06-2012 7:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus, how long was the contract for!? Feels like Toyota only signed up yesterday.

it was signed in 2010 about 190 cars but there awful for pol work

d3exile · 27-06-2012 7:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus, how long was the contract for!? Feels like Toyota only signed up yesterday.

Toyota was only a temporary measure to replace the lethally old cars in the fleet, which they have done, the BMWs are in on tender now, they had Skodas a few weeks ago, same as a few years ago, they'll have 1 or 2 cars from each of the players, Toyota, Ford, BMW, Skoda, Volvo (I think) to test drive and put thru their paces.... for a longer term contract for renewal of the fleet as cars become dangerously old or are written off... similar to the ford contract from the late 90s on to 2010

Toyotas are alright but they're only for show they look great but wont stand up to the rigors and abuse of daily police work, and dont handle anything like the mondeos... BMW would be something else but I can't see them ever being general issue if they're bought at all, ie you wont see your local friendly copper in em, it'll be SOME traffic and the likes of RSU etc.... can't see Joe Public accepting Guards in BMWs, joe duffy's phone line would burn out!!!

ivabiggon · 27-06-2012 8:57pm

d3exile wrote: »

Toyota was only a temporary measure to replace the lethally old cars in the fleet, which they have done, the BMWs are in on tender now, they had Skodas a few weeks ago, same as a few years ago, they'll have 1 or 2 cars from each of the players, Toyota, Ford, BMW, Skoda, Volvo (I think) to test drive and put thru their paces.... for a longer term contract for renewal of the fleet as cars become dangerously old or are written off... similar to the ford contract from the late 90s on to 2010

Toyotas are alright but they're only for show they look great but wont stand up to the rigors and abuse of daily police work, and dont handle anything like the mondeos... BMW would be something else but I can't see them ever being general issue if they're bought at all, ie you wont see your local friendly copper in em, it'll be SOME traffic and the likes of RSU etc.... can't see Joe Public accepting Guards in BMWs, joe duffy's phone line would burn out!!!

beemers would defiantly a step in the right direction for the gardaí, robust german engineering, but i have to ask and this is purely out of interest here, as bmw's are rear wheel drive and the majority of every day cars are front wheel drive, would that pose a problem for all the training the garda drivers do considering a rear wheel drive car handles totally different on corners, and with gardaí regularly pushing the envelope on bend and in traffic

Mister Jingles · 27-06-2012 9:01pm

POGAN wrote: »

it was signed in 2010 about 190 cars but there awful for pol work

Who BMW or Toyota ?

Mr Simpson · 27-06-2012 9:03pm

Mister Jingles wrote: »

POGAN wrote: »

it was signed in 2010 about 190 cars but there awful for pol work

Who BMW or Toyota ?

Toyota

Mister Jingles · 27-06-2012 9:06pm

ivabiggon wrote: »

beemers would defiantly a step in the right direction for the gardaí, robust german engineering, but i have to ask and this is purely out of interest here, as bmw's are rear wheel drive and the majority of every day cars are front wheel drive, would that pose a problem for all the training the garda drivers do considering a rear wheel drive car handles totally different on corners, and with gardaí regularly pushing the envelope on bend and in traffic

Watched this the other night, might as well post it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-EoHywpO4

Mister Jingles · 27-06-2012 9:07pm

mmcn90 wrote: »

Toyota

That makes sense

source · 27-06-2012 9:21pm

Decision has already been made, Ford have the contract:

www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAY345855

The Black Oil · 27-06-2012 9:24pm

Is the idea behind some thinking that you can buy 30 Toyotas whereas you may only get 15 BMWs for the same money, that type of thing?

Mr Simpson · 27-06-2012 9:25pm

source wrote: »

Decision has already been made, Ford have the contract:

www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAY345855

I'm on my phone and the pink won't work for me, but is that not the service contract rather than supply of vehicles, I know there was one for that recently.

source · 27-06-2012 9:29pm

mmcn90 wrote: »

source wrote: »

Decision has already been made, Ford have the contract:

www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAY345855

I'm on my phone and the pink won't work for me, but is that not the service contract rather than supply of vehicles, I know there was one for that recently.

Nope its for procurement of police specification and standard vehicles.

Mr Simpson · 27-06-2012 9:32pm

Good to hear, although I wouldn't have minded seeing a few octavia vrs'

Hogzy · 27-06-2012 10:06pm

Would that tender include Traffic Corps and RSU vehicles? Surely not. Assuming the replacement vehicles will be Transits, Mondeos and Focus'.

The largest size engine available in the Mondeo is a 2.5 @ 220PS. Is that enough power for a traffic vehicle? I thought they would need at least a 250hp.

Hooch · 27-06-2012 10:10pm

Hogzy wrote: »

Would that tender include Traffic Corps and RSU vehicles? Surely not. Assuming the replacement vehicles will be Transits, Mondeos and Focus'.

The largest size engine available in the Mondeo is a 2.5 @ 220PS. Is that enough power for a traffic vehicle? I thought they would need at least a 250hp.

Ford do a 3.0litre petrol mondeo. Not available in Ireland. Most motorway TC advanced cars are 3.0litre Mondeos.

Any 07 TC mondeo with alloys, sun roof and fog light is either 2.5 or 3.0

Hogzy · 27-06-2012 10:12pm

Hooch wrote: »

Ford do a 3.0litre petrol mondeo. Not available in Ireland. Most motorway TC advanced cars are 3.0litre Mondeos.

Any 07 TC mondeo with alloys, sun roof and fog light is either 2.5 or 3.0

There are no new model mondeo TC cars though are there?

The new model mondeo doesnt have anything bigger than 2.5 though according to wikipedia.

Hooch · 27-06-2012 10:14pm

Hogzy wrote: »

There are no new model mondeo TC cars though are there?

The new model mondeo doesnt have anything bigger than 2.5 though according to wikipedia.

Im talking about the older 07 Mondeo, sorry. Don't know about the newer one from 08 onwards.

27-06-2012 10:14pm

Wonder will they scrap the single yellow stripe. In spite of TC funding continuously disappearing, they still seem to be using it on most cars. The cars in the recent photos on the gallery are even getting the bonnets decalled (yellow block around the word GARDA on the front).

Single yellow stripe, though I'm sure it's cheap and easy to apply, should be long gone by now.

Also, does the contract link posted on the previous page say that they're spending €2.5m?

Drummerboy08 · 27-06-2012 10:17pm

Hooch wrote: »

Ford do a 3.0litre petrol mondeo. Not available in Ireland. Most motorway TC advanced cars are 3.0litre Mondeos.

Any 07 TC mondeo with alloys, sun roof and fog light is either 2.5 or 3.0

Fairly sure both the 2.5V6 and 3.0 have been discontinued and have been replaced with the 2.0 Ecoboost 203ps. For all the cars going forward that is.

source · 27-06-2012 10:21pm

Hogzy wrote: »

Would that tender include Traffic Corps and RSU vehicles? Surely not. Assuming the replacement vehicles will be Transits, Mondeos and Focus'.

Traffic corps, maybe, rsu I doubt it, Theres a separate tender for police vans on the site. So this one is just for patrol cars.

EDIT: Link to van tender http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=JUN351396

Mister Jingles · 27-06-2012 10:26pm

Hogzy wrote: »

Would that tender include Traffic Corps and RSU vehicles? Surely not. Assuming the replacement vehicles will be Transits, Mondeos and Focus'.

The largest size engine available in the Mondeo is a 2.5 @ 220PS. Is that enough power for a traffic vehicle? I thought they would need at least a 250hp.

Of course, those 2.5's are whats in the Focus ST's and a lot of Volvo T5's

Mr Simpson · 27-06-2012 10:26pm

Pity Ford don't do a proper Police special, would be ideal for a tender like this. Something based on a Mondeo, with a more powerful engine, extra protection, a security screen and other features.

Drummerboy08 · 27-06-2012 10:29pm

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Of course, those 2.5's are whats in the Focus ST's and a lot of Volvo T5's

That's a different engine. The 2.5 in the ST and Volvo's is a 5 pot Turbo, but it's a V6 N/a in the Mondeo. The V6 isn't in production anymore.

Very few manufacturers are building powerful large capacity petrol engines these days, it will be interesting to see what police forces do in the next few years with diesel engines becoming more and more mainstream, and decent performance petrol engines being phased out.

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