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WoTLK Midnite Sales in Ireland?

  • 24-10-2008 2:11pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know anywhere in Ireland that will be selling this anywhere as of midnight or where one could attain a copy as of midnight (esp. in Dublin??)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    This is the 4th thread about the same thing on the first page of this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    Yes, & the answers are as clear as the four threads being apparent ..... only reason I ask is I am travelling to Italy the day of it's release, & obviously I'd like to be able to nab a copy before I head out on a 7.30am flight that day, so I install in my hotel later on & play in the evening at my hotel after the guts of a day's travel. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭KoKane


    sounds like you're being forced to go to italy.
    Xtra vision do midnight sales sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    KoKane wrote: »
    sounds like you're being forced to go to italy.
    Xtra vision do midnight sales sometimes.

    no comment (the day was originally booked off for me to be able to play WoW & on the Friday - that's all I'll say)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Servers will probably all be down for most of the day anyway, or at the very least, lagged to hell. So I wouldn't worry too much about getting a copy at midnight really.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    best bet for this is if one of the 24 hour tescos is stocking it but I'm not sure if they do PC games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    Servers will probably all be down for most of the day anyway, or at the very least, lagged to hell. So I wouldn't worry too much about getting a copy at midnight really.

    +1

    Lauch day for a mmo or an expansion is the one time you make sure you dont take off lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    Unlike a number of patches my memory of the TBC launch was something rather smooth. I presume as much of the stuff is patched in already since ala 2.0 and now 3.0. Hoping for a similar experience this time round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭Ivan


    I rerolled belf and played to 18 in beta, so fairly sailed through the starting levels and was ahead of the curve for the most part.

    From my perspective, TBC was hella smooth. My NDA from my previous job has ended also, so I'll give you a little insight as to what it was like in work from that perspective...

    I worked in Sitel in Swords, who were subcontracted for Blizzard, in my opinion, based on what I have witnessed since; in order to allow Blizzard enough time to invest and build up their cork HQ and quite possibly to also allow them to save a bundle training a work-force for the new building.

    Sitel recruited people, trained them and then baptised them through fire. Those that were left and that were willing to move to cork were as rocksteady GM's as you are likely to find anywhere. Mind you, they did recruit anyone that applied for cork directly from Sitel so you gotta wonder :p

    Still, I've somewhat side-lined my original point. In work, TBC was the most terrifying example of the blind leading the blind ;) 2.0 was worse, but thats an entirely different story.

    To put things in perspective, Blizzard werent very forthcoming when it came to passing information to us in Sitel. Meaning a large part of what we did was, to quote one of the GMs who worked there; "Human spam filters". We cleared out the, "Can I get my name changed", "Why havent you banned X bot and Y gold seller already?" to "Can I see a GM and have epixlol?".

    Dont get me wrong, there was a lot more to it than that, but the work satisfaction wasnt there. People called in sick just to have moments of 'stillness', if that makes sense. Course then others came to work sick and mandatory desk-swapping would cause plagues to sweep through entire teams...

    But again I digress. The night and subsequent week after the launch of TBC, I, like very few others; had booked a weeks holidays. Playing from the morning of launch and stopping only to refill my body with the nearest confectionary goodies needed to tie me over to the next pit-stop, intermingled with the emails/phone conversations and text messages from the poor saps who were still at work, reporting the bloodbath that was Hellfire Peninsula crammed with ~7k players.

    Multitudes of bugs came in, without any known causes, fixes or even voodoo chants left most GMs feeling impotent and altogether ineffective. Meanwhile, I was safe and warm at home; exploring Azeroth through a new set of eyes as a freshly created paladin. Rolling in cash due to picking up mining and skinning, filled with beta knowledge as well as experiences of leveling 3 characters to 60 pre-TBC although more importantly with Joanna's leveling guide, meant I managed to hit ~54 before I went back to work a week and half or so later. Of course, once I actually started back at work I barely got to play and I stayed fairly stagnant around the 54 mark for a good few weeks.

    But things were different when I got back to Sitel after my holidays. I felt fresh, renewed and also somewhat naieve to boot. While many weary folk were all that were left of the veterans that started with me, their wills ground down by "We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause." and "Are there any more issues I can help you with" The carts carrying fresh meat for the grinders, came bi-weekly and couldnt really keep up with the staff turn-over in that place. At least at that stage. By the time I started to feel frustrated again, there was a nice tidy list of known bugs some of which I had experienced although most I hadnt. Some had solutions or fixes like the mechanar door farce, whereby we actually pioneered the solutions but werent allowed to put them into effect until days later when Blizzards QA departments had signed off on it. However, most issues didnt have any solutions, at least not on our end, simply because Blizzard didnt trust the spam filters with any button, let alone one that could blow stuff up. However, by this stage, we were handling a large volume of the European tickets. Paris had been down-sized significantly and it was really only the senior GMs that were left there. This meant where we once ignored item reimbursement requests and left them for Paris, instead became exercises in the Withdrawal technique or Coitus Interruptus if you will. Sitel GMs would receive the players complaint/request and let him/her bitch them out for 5-10 minutes. Once the required information had been sucked from the player through a very small straw it was then collected in the ticket notes and account notes and then "Escalated" for the Paris GMs to deal with, with 90% of the work done and the credit for closing the ticket going to the egg-head who might as well have been in his pyjamas and pressed the Y key every 45 seconds.

    It actually got pretty funny at one stage, when a Sitel GM wrote up the details for a reimbursement and then sent it off to Paris for "further investigation" and the eventual reimbursement. You could be forgiven for thinking, just another run-of-the-mill ticket, until a few weeks later we in Sitel got another ticket stating that "Player X was equipping some Tier 5, when no guild or player had stepped foot in that level of content by that stage on that server." After some quick investigations we had confirmed it to be true, it was impossible for the player to have received that item on that server. Transfers turned up nout and we quickly realised that some new Sitel GM had made a mistake and mixed up a T4 reimbursement with a T5 lottery win. The Paris GM didnt look too hard and just hit the loot vending machine button and moved onto the next ticket to deal with. In the end they let the player keep the item as it would have been more hassle to remove it than to let him/her keep it. Decide from that what you will :p

    All in all though, it was a novel experience. It gave me simultaneous experience in Customer support and in a computer gaming environment, opening the door to work for Dell or Activision's game testing department alike. Similarly, I made some life-long friends. Many of whom I'm still in contact with and some of whom are right now in cork, with pyjamas of their own... pressing the Y key ;)

    Hai guyz, kek. Fruity Pirate Grok says hi, crusty toe-nails all round, just dont forget the milk :D

    Any questions, just ask, although I probably wont answer any of them, especially if they are "Can I have epixlol?" or some equivalent :p Will consider a seperate thread tomorrow, if there is any interest.



    For the culturally impaired:

    belf = blood elf
    NDA = non-disclosure agreement
    TBC = The Burning Crusade
    2.0 = the patch that was released in november or so, that included much of the new changes from TBC and was intended to reduce complications come TBC but instead caused tickets queues in excess of 15,000 in one night
    The Withdrawal technique = as made famous by the Catholic Church for it's sheer simplicity and Billy Connelly for it's sheer stupidity
    Pyjamas and press the Y key = Reference to a simpsons episode where Homer puts on weight to work from home and wears pyjamas while pressing Y repeatedly on a computer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    A bit OT, but an interesting read all the same Ivan. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    I was expecting some serious shenanigans to be posted when Ivan's NDA ran out. That just seems like the normal going's on of any job. More to come, perhaps?

    Your feeding it to us like crack, arn't ya!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Good read Ivan, whats the money like for a GM?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Nice read Ivan.
    Friend of mine and ex work collegue here (where I'm still working) is still working as a GM in Paris, guess he's one of those senior GM's now that pass a lot of stuff back to Ireland to deal with :)

    Money is supposedly crap so I heard but he's happy enough there and likes France. Think he'd rather give up the job than move to Cork though if they ever did decide to move all their operations to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    really interesting read ivan, more please:@)

    From talking to other sitel people, the one thing that actually sounds cool is that from what i gather, everyone you work with is a massive fan of the game. That would make a nice change:)

    Also, as far as im concerned all the "first step "gms ive had dealings with have been great and entirely unbowed (or appeared to be so) by the endless stream of whinge. Good example of this was the other night when an item was ML'd to the wrong raid member, the GM sorted it out and then said " any other assistance etc etc", the RL replied "yeh, can you give me that oneshot illidan buff". The GM replied "Im sorry, but only ret pallys are eligible for that ability". Nice:)


    BTW ivan, what changed in respect to item replacements. They used to be like golddust, and now the very slightest thing can be re-imbursed or replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    I love reading about the behind the scene stuff, I Always find it interesting, thanks Ivan

    I have encountered 2 GM's IRL, one of which lasted a short time and the other lasted a good while. They had some great stories from their time working but agreed that it can be bloody tough, working very long hours and it almost destroyed their interest in playing the game.

    One of the craziest things I heard was that they get a lot of tickets regarding users going to kill themselves, "Emo" types. The GM's have to take them seriously and have a form of scripted response on dealing with it. Some of them are just trolls, but there are some genuinely depressed people crying to GM's.
    I have great sympathy for those who suffer from depression, but I can't get over the idea that someone would go to a GM for "help".


    OT: As mentioned previous, Servers will undoubtably be fecked for the day, but I still plan on going to wherever the opening area will be (Zepplin towers?), like the portal the night before tbc. Just to see the mass crowd & unbelievable lag and then the inevitable server crash
    I think I may still take thursday/friday off from college to play it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    Dustaz wrote: »

    BTW ivan, what changed in respect to item replacements. They used to be like golddust, and now the very slightest thing can be re-imbursed or replaced.

    A policy change came down. I cannot recall if I was still working there at the time. Basically to be more helpful user/friendly the one time item reimbursement went out the window. I quit there when the expansion came out basically to end up playing it as mentioned one of the major issues was just that nothing serious was handled onsite all shipped to Paris.

    I have a good memory of the place when working new years eve just before the TBC launch. I'm not a big fan of new years and was happy to work it in exchange for christmas off. We received a ton of happy new years tickets from the players. A nice gesture!

    My only real memory of the Fruity Pirates was the GM guild on Talnivarr which was all well and good until some disgruntled ex employee posted it all over the realm forums about the guild and who its members where. The thread was promptly removed and the guild disbanded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    Back on topic ......

    There is a few midnight sales in some Game stores in Lisburn & Belfast from what I heard. Can't find the collectors edition anywhere though. All seem to have been fully pre booked.

    Play seem to have it listed but not orderable. So guessing they are fully booked too. Nothing on Tesco site. Gamestop site aint very helpful but got numbers to check them.

    Anyone know where could get collectors edition at this late stage on web for same day release at all??? Or somewhere up north around Lisburn / Belfast at all :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Is there even enough WoW players in Ireland to warrant a mid night opening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    KilOit wrote: »
    Is there even enough WoW players in Ireland to warrant a mid night opening

    ALOT in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    Wouldnt have thought many up here but guess so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    Apparently Game aint doing it anymore now :( Said Gamestation have got exclusive rights now in the last few days for it. Don't even think theres one in NI never mind near me :( Sucks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Hmm you can check this now on wow-europe,

    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml

    And for some reason HMV in Cork is the only place in Ireland listed for midnight openings :(

    WTF?

    I know they are based down there but really, why no opening in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    UK gets 100's of places opening and we get 1 :mad:

    Edit: Seems there mostly Tesco's won't Irish Tesco's be the same, just might not be listed yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    KilOit wrote: »
    UK gets 100's of places opening and we get 1 :mad:

    Edit: Seems there mostly Tesco's won't Irish Tesco's be the same, just might not be listed yet
    Mostly due to the population difference and the ratio of wow players in UK and Ireland I imagine.

    But it is a bit retarded there's not one in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Do Tesco even sell PC games over here?

    If they do, then I guess the 24 hour ones will have them anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    I rememebr I could waltz into my local Gamestop and pick up a CE of TBC with no preorder on launch day and the guy infront of me got 6 standard copies with no preorder. Doubt it'll be like that this time around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    WellyJ wrote: »
    Hmm you can check this now on wow-europe,

    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml
    And for some reason HMV in Cork is the only place in Ireland listed for midnight openings :(
    WTF?
    I know they are based down there but really, why no opening in Dublin?

    [2. Trade] [Rattlehead] WTB Car and driver for road trip to cork. Paying 10G*





    * 10G = half petrol costs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    [2. Trade] [Rattlehead] WTB Car and driver for road trip to cork. Paying 10G*





    * 10G = half petrol costs
    More like 100g these days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    Gamestop in Belfast said they weren't taking pre orders when called the other day :( gonna go down tonight with a printout of their pre book guidelines from site :D see if can get the collectors edition ordered. Can wait till Thurs mornin if will get the collectors :D

    If not, 24hr Tesco's is just down the road and can grab the standard edition. They don't seem to know much about it down there though :s Must try some other till person some night and ask if gettin them in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    hmmm my mate is a tesco manager, might ask him to hold me a copy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭pedro ferio-vti


    So will Tescos down in Dublin be stocking this at midnight? I doubt it, so looks like if you wanna play you either have to go to Cork or Belfast? I just want the standard edition :s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Psycopat


    cant you buy it online on the blizzard website when its released? Im pretty sure you'll just be able to upgrade your account with a credit card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    I was in Game on Dawson street today and noticed they were doing a midnight opening for Gears of War 2. I asked about one for WOTLK and the guy I talked to said "Probably, we'll know on Monday".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Psycopat wrote: »
    cant you buy it online on the blizzard website when its released? Im pretty sure you'll just be able to upgrade your account with a credit card.

    This only came in for TBC a few months after launch,

    Blizzard prefer to see actual boxes being bought from the shelves, then when the initial rush drops down, they offer the "Upgrade Online" feature to squeeze the last few subs out of pepople.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Duchovny


    Even if you could buy the upgrade game don't forget you would have still to download about 5GB of data to ur pc, their servers wouldn't be able to manage that.

    I know the OFFgames website sells the expansion but i didnt read how you actualy get the data.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    So will Tescos down in Dublin be stocking this at midnight? I doubt it, so looks like if you wanna play you either have to go to Cork or Belfast? I just want the standard edition :s

    ill ask my mate today and see what the craic is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    You have to also think when will servers be up and running smoothly, i can defo see it being lagfest etc on release...i personally will be away that weekend , but have the monday off so ill get stuck in then :)

    Its not going to sell out anywhere it will be plenty available, the so called " lack of supply" is a worse rumour then this so called recession


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    Dr_Teeth wrote: »
    I was in Game on Dawson street today and noticed they were doing a midnight opening for Gears of War 2. I asked about one for WOTLK and the guy I talked to said "Probably, we'll know on Monday".

    I asked Game in SQuiffy Valley yesterday about a midnite opening for WoTLK cos they too had the midnite opening for gears of war up & the manager there told me a flat 'no', & also told me he had no price for the standard pack let alone the collectors edition & wouldn't until they received their shipment in on Monday coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Duchovny wrote: »
    Even if you could buy the upgrade game don't forget you would have still to download about 5GB of data to ur pc, their servers wouldn't be able to manage that.

    I know the OFFgames website sells the expansion but i didnt read how you actualy get the data.

    The standard dodgy places will have the dvd to download well in advance,

    And in fact it's hard to argue that there is anything wrong with that in this case, seeing as it is useless without purchasing a key,

    I had TBC installed 3 days before launch last year and was just waiting to input my key on launch day so i didnt have to bother installing that morning.

    Offgamers sells keys, they do not sell the "data", it's up to you to get it yourself.


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    WellyJ wrote: »
    The standard dodgy places will have the dvd to download well in advance,

    I had TBC installed 3 days before launch last year and was just waiting to input my key on launch day so i didnt have to bother installing that morning.

    Offgamers sells keys, they do not sell the "data", it's up to you to get it yourself.

    So would you recommend this as a possible way of getting the game at midnight?
    Or would there be a chance that you'd end up having to go and buy the game itself the next morning?


    Also, how important do you guys think it will be to pre-order?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Its not going to sell out anywhere it will be plenty available, the so called " lack of supply" is a worse rumour then this so called recession

    250,000 people on the dole think the fact you have a notion about anything is a rumour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    just booked next thurs and friday off work. Gonna ring around all the games shops in dublin tomorrow and find a definate answer, may actually wait till monday to try it aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    my mate is checkin this out for me tomoro in tesco so ill let yas know.

    if you can find a working download please post it up, then go onto offgamers and buy the key post 12, theres a good chance they will have them striaght up. im gonna ask on their customer support section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    So would you recommend this as a possible way of getting the game at midnight?
    Or would there be a chance that you'd end up having to go and buy the game itself the next morning?


    Also, how important do you guys think it will be to pre-order?

    TBH although I have used Offgamers a lot in the past and they are excellent for what they are,

    I am not leaving it to chance that they will get a lot of wotlk keys the night before launch.

    I really want a bricks and mortar option in Dublin city, I finish work at 10pm on the wednesday night so want to head straight to wherever there is a midnight opening, really hope somewhere does it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    i just rang Game on dawson st and as above, they said "yeh, probably, check back next week"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Dustaz wrote: »
    i just rang Game on dawson st and as above, they said "yeh, probably, check back next week"

    Unfortunately I have noticed in past dealings with GAME employees is that they just tell you what you want to hear, the guy probably has no clue and just says "probably yeh" to get you off the phone.

    Apologies to any GAME employees who actually do their job properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    GAME totally went down the tubes when it was bought by EB when I was working there we just used to tell customers to fúck off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    Only 1 confirmed store in the republic that are doing a midnite sale according to blizzard.
    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml

    HMV in cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Krieg wrote: »
    Only 1 confirmed store in the republic that are doing a midnite sale according to blizzard.
    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml

    HMV in cork

    Yeh we have been discussing that already in this thread ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭ZygOte


    I think blizzard have gone about this all wrong ideally the game should be available for purchase a few days or a week before it goes live, giving people to by and install and actually be ready to play when WTLK goes live


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