X Factor 2011 (UK) - The Last 4 Weeks

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2011 3:04pm #1

http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/louis-walsh-refuses-to-comment-on-mary-coughlan-x-factor-fix-claims/

Louis Walsh has refused to make any comments, on claims made by his pal Mary Coughlan about The X Factor.
The Irish jazz and folk singer was a guest of Walsh’s at last weekend’s X Factor show and in a subsequent radio interview, admitted that she had her eyes opened to how the show works during her time backstage.

Speaking on RTE radio yesterday afternoon, the 55 year old admitted that she was ‘intrigued’ by the show, explaining:
“Well you know, let’s not go there but I suppose I got to find out things I shouldn’t know about the ‘X Factor’, but I really was intrigued by the whole way it ran, let me just say that.”
When asked exactly what it was, she had “learned”, she added: “People know things before the show starts, that’s all I am going to say . . . that they probably shouldn’t know . . .”
It was the last thing the show needed, after Saturday night’s fix claims surrounding Amelia Lily and the belief of many viewers that much of what is seen on the weekend’s live episodes is heavily manufactured and orchestrated.

Quazzie · 15-11-2011 3:06pm

swordofislam wrote: »

What do you like about Amelia?
Keep it clean please she is only 15.

She is 17.

swordofislam · 15-11-2011 3:06pm

I have edited the post.
Think we should keep it clean in general. These are real people we are talking about here!

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

“People know things before the show starts, that’s all I am going to say . . . that they probably shouldn’t know . . .”

Like Doctor Faustus Cowell sold his soul for secret knowledge.

Biggins · 15-11-2011 3:07pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/louis-walsh-refuses-to-comment-on-mary-coughlan-x-factor-fix-claims/

Louis Walsh has refused to make any comments, on claims made by his pal Mary Coughlan about The X Factor.
The Irish jazz and folk singer was a guest of Walsh’s at last weekend’s X Factor show and in a subsequent radio interview, admitted that she had her eyes opened to how the show works during her time backstage.

Speaking on RTE radio yesterday afternoon, the 55 year old admitted that she was ‘intrigued’ by the show, explaining:
“Well you know, let’s not go there but I suppose I got to find out things I shouldn’t know about the ‘X Factor’, but I really was intrigued by the whole way it ran, let me just say that.”
When asked exactly what it was, she had “learned”, she added: “People know things before the show starts, that’s all I am going to say . . . that they probably shouldn’t know . . .”
It was the last thing the show needed, after Saturday night’s fix claims surrounding Amelia Lily and the belief of many viewers that much of what is seen on the weekend’s live episodes is heavily manufactured and orchestrated.

It also explain why they have removed the discussion section on their facebook site!
They don't want people now publicising this sort of stuff.

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2011 3:11pm

swordofislam wrote: »

I don't have very strong opinions about Amelia and I like Janet and Misha B better (both of these acts have OFFICIAL appreciation threads by the way)
BUT if I had to pick one and only one thing I like about her I would say that
She's come back from adversity,
She is feisty,
Potentially she is a good role model (could someone confirm this),

What do you like about Amelia?
Keep it clean please she is only 17.

Amelia was with mankie Frankie hard to kept it clean

swordofislam · 15-11-2011 3:14pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Amelia was with mankie Frankie hard to kept it clean

So she had her heart broken by a cold hearted Lothario! I understand that he was her first love!
BUT she has pulled herself back from adversity!
Any other reasons why you LOVE Amelia?

SlickRic · 15-11-2011 3:33pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

much of what is seen on the weekend’s live episodes is heavily manufactured and orchestrated.[/COLOR]

people can't possibly only now be copping on to this.

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2011 3:38pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2061472/X-Factor-2011-Kitty-Brucknell-blasts-Amelia-Lilys-return-unfair.html

........................Kitty, 26, also revealed that all is not well between the judges as Louis Walsh 'egged' her on to swear at Kelly Rowland when she lost in the sing-off.
When discussing whether or not her final goodbye to the show, when she sang a line from Lady Gaga's Born This Way, was organised by Louis she revealed the Irish manager had other ideas.

She said Louis told her to 'jump up on the table and stick your middle finger up to Kelly'.

That revelation will certainly worsen tensions between the judges who are already at war, with Gary Barlow and Louis battling for head judge supremacy and Kelly and Tulisa Contostavlos at loggerheads.
Kitty returned to the X Factor house to pick up her things but it looks as though the other contestants were too busy to see her....................................

LOL go Lulu all for publicity of course Simon has him well trained

Biggins · 15-11-2011 3:39pm

If someone says to me that the makers of the show including Simon, DON'T know in advance what way the voting is going before the public announcements every week, I suspect such people are very naive.

Just as it was obvious last year that the gimp Cher Lloyd was the years favoured one - its so obvious that Misha B is now this years primary selection for favouritism.

Both last year and this year they are trying every PR trick in the book and possibly some outside it, to ensure Misha B gets a lot more exposure/PR promotion than the rest.

swordofislam · 15-11-2011 3:51pm

If they know than aren't they stealing from the voting public. It is constantly repeated that nobody knows what way the votes are going.
What's more apart from last year I don't think that the voting trends worked the way that we thought they were working?

Also why would Simon have got rid of Mary when he was able to make money from SuBo?
OSI keep it clean please. This is a family boards.ie thread.
By the way Misha B fans the haters have struck so get in there and get voting.
Votes cost zero pence from standard BT landlines and from mobiles will not cost considerably more!

SlickRic · 15-11-2011 3:53pm

swordofislam wrote: »

Also why would Simon have got rid of Mary when he was able to make money from SuBo?

because Mary Byrne is shít, and SuBo is not.

Biggins · 15-11-2011 3:57pm

swordofislam wrote: »

If they know than aren't they stealing from the voting public. It is constantly repeated that nobody knows what way the votes are going.
What's more apart from last year I don't think that the voting trends worked the way that we thought they were working?

Also why would Simon have got rid of Mary when he was able to make money from SuBo?
OSI keep it clean please. This is a family boards.ie thread.

Just because X-factor judges/O'Leary/Simon says something, don't mean it true.
I mean even Barlow openly admitted to the public that he lies (to serve a purpose)!

Simon would have seen Subo as a one off and/or wants to keep her that way. It makes her alone PR-wise, all the more special.
If I was him, I wouldn't want to bring/introduce another similar person that might dilute the publicity that Subo brings to the world and weaken any further chances of PR exposure (= profit).
Too many Subo types means eventual market saturation.

swordofislam · 15-11-2011 3:58pm

SlickRic wrote: »

because Mary Byrne is shít, and SuBo is not.

OK that's one perspective and if true it would be a very valid perspective. I have a bit of a tin ear though so can't comment further. If indeed SuBo is not **** and MaBy is **** that would explain alot.

But remember MaBy is Irish and used to be a Lesbian.

Did anyone (else) piss themself laughing when she kept going on about her poor daughter who turned out to be about 14?

Biggins wrote: »

Just because X-factor judges/O'Leary/Simon says something, don't mean it true.
I mean even Barlow openly admitted to the public that he lies (to serve a purpose)!

Simon would have seen Subo as a one off and/or wants to keep her that way. It makes her alone PR-wise, all the more special.
If I was him, I wouldn't want to bring/introduce another similar person that might dilute the publicity that Subo brings to the world and weaken any further chances of PR exposure (= profit).
Too many Subo types means eventual market saturation.

Did Gary Barlow admit to lying?
Good points about Cowell trying to keep SuBo unique.
If you have any positive opinions about Misha B or Janet D to express don't forget the OFFICIAL Appreciation threads!

Biggins · 15-11-2011 4:04pm

swordofislam wrote: »

...Did Gary Barlow admit to lying?

* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2052263/X-Factor-2011-Gary-Barlow-admits-Frankie-Cocozza-awful-week.html

* http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/x-factor-2011-gary-barlow-lies-for-frankie-cocozza-again/

swordofislam · 15-11-2011 4:09pm

Biggins wrote: »

* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2052263/X-Factor-2011-Gary-Barlow-admits-Frankie-Cocozza-awful-week.html

* http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/x-factor-2011-gary-barlow-lies-for-frankie-cocozza-again/

God Biggin's you are a hard marker. They always say their own acts were good it is just part of the game. It is one of many things what makes X factor so original and not just a blatant rip off of Pop Idol.

Biggins · 15-11-2011 4:14pm

swordofislam wrote: »

God Biggin's you are a hard marker. They always say their own acts were good it is just part of the game. It is one of many things what makes X factor so original and not just a blatant rip off of Pop Idol.

Its one thing to promote your own but to outright lie - especially when the public is to a certain extent putting their hands in their pockets, spending phone call money and taking the words of judges often (sadly) as the truth!
(To me that partial financial fraud too by the way)

...Anyway, he admitted he lied (for a reason in particular) - and I suspect he's not the first on X-Factor, to suit an agenda.

xsiborg · 15-11-2011 4:56pm

swordofislam wrote: »

OSI keep it clean please. This is a family boards.ie thread.

swordofislam wrote: »

Think we should keep it clean in general. These are real people we are talking about here!

interesting turn of attitude-

swordofislam wrote: »

If indeed SuBo is not **** and MaBy is **** that would explain alot.

But remember MaBy is Irish and used to be a Lesbian.

Did anyone (else) piss themself laughing when she kept going on about her poor daughter who turned out to be about 14?

swordofislam wrote: »

Votes cost zero pence from standard BT landlines and from mobiles will not cost considerably more

I cant figure out whether it's Kelly Rowland or Gary Barlow, both are well known to talk hypocritical nonsense, or is it just a plant by Simon Cowell?

Stench Blossoms · 15-11-2011 4:59pm

Swordofislam you are providing me with so much entertainment. Keep up the good work

Biggins · 15-11-2011 5:09pm

xsiborg wrote: »

...I cant figure out whether it's Kelly Rowland or Gary Barlow, both are well known to talk hypocritical nonsense, or is it just a plant by Simon Cowell?

Plants?
Well both of them are weeds as far as I'm concerned!

ziedth · 15-11-2011 7:51pm

I could live with Barlow back next year but if I see Kelly Rowland anywhere near this show next summer I'm tracking Simon down and hitting him in the face with a trout.

Busi_Girl08 · 15-11-2011 7:55pm

Agree about Rowland. She's trying to be some weird Oprah/Paula Abdul wannabe, and it just makes her look deranged.

I've warmed to Tulisa, though. Most of the time she cuts through the shoite, and she does seem to really care about her groups.

I don't think Kelly and Gary would even be able to name all 4 of their acts.

Prop Joe · 15-11-2011 9:38pm

Movie week !! Louise should take Janet off that B1tch Kelly

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2011 10:32pm

I would love to see an act dump their mentor *coughs* Kelly dumped would be sweet

caseyann · 15-11-2011 10:43pm

Prop Joe wrote: »

Movie week !! Louise should take Janet off that B1tch Kelly

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000 on that one

I wonder what songs they will sing.:) Looking forward to this week show

Courageous Rabbit · 16-11-2011 12:15am

swordofislam wrote: »

How could you have a strong opinion of Amelia one way or the other? She has only been in the show for a week!:rolleyes:

She was the best of the auditions in my opinion. Then she sang her way through those. Then she sang at the judges houses and finally on week 1 of the live shows and on Saturday...

Maybe just think in future...

..Oh and if I say I think someone is better than another or the best at something, it's expressing an opinion...harping on about a nothing 'performer' like Janet over the course of many pages is vehemently defending or pushing your opinion - a strong opinion if you will.

Courageous Rabbit · 16-11-2011 12:23am

What bugs me about the themes is this:

Last week on the U.S. X Factor it was movie week also - Simon picked a song - Fix you by Coldplay......hardly a movie classic is it?!

All he's done was think of a song he wanted his act to sing and look for a film it might have been in. It's not really keeping with the 'spirit of the theme' in my opinion.

Same with Tulisa and rock week - actually that was worse - ''Oh I took it to mean something that had a kind of a rock riff''. Ridiculous. None of her acts that week sang anything remotely rock.

Grindylow · 16-11-2011 12:36am

RIP X Factor thread no.1.. you'll be missed

:P

Busi_Girl08 · 16-11-2011 12:37am

Jesus. I thought the thread was closed indefinitely there for a second. The would have been riots! :pac:

woodoo · 16-11-2011 12:53am

If Janet wants to go any further then she needs to sing without those sharp rises and squeaks. Just sing purely Janet i say.

sunbabe08 · 16-11-2011 1:45am

ahhhh new thread:D

time to get janet back to what she knows best.

unreggd · 16-11-2011 2:00am

sunbabe08 wrote: »

ahhhh new thread:D

time to get janet back to what she knows best.

Yeah, back to when she wasnt on the show!

I was over her from the beginning. Diana Vickers she's not

ibarelycare · 16-11-2011 8:50am

Courageous Rabbit wrote: »

What bugs me about the themes is this:

Last week on the U.S. X Factor it was movie week also - Simon picked a song - Fix you by Coldplay......hardly a movie classic is it?!

All he's done was think of a song he wanted his act to sing and look for a film it might have been in. It's not really keeping with the 'spirit of the theme' in my opinion.

Same with Tulisa and rock week - actually that was worse - ''Oh I took it to mean something that had a kind of a rock riff''. Ridiculous. None of her acts that week sang anything remotely rock.

Yeah it was the same with Movie week on the UK X Factor either last year or the year before. IIRC there was a movie that some of the judges hadn't even heard of! But I don't know why we keep expressing our surprise that the themes aren't being stuck to :pac:

swordofislam · 16-11-2011 9:39am

unreggd wrote: »

Yeah, back to when she wasnt on the show!

I was over her from the beginning. Diana Vickers she's not

The Quiggmeister is in a Panto touring Northern Ireland at the moment. He plays Prince Charming but they should have called him Prince Ugly. How did he come second to Alexandra Burke the diminutive dusky Nightingale? He was absolutely awful.

Courageous Rabbit wrote: »

She was the best of the auditions in my opinion. Then she sang her way through those. Then she sang at the judges houses and finally on week 1 of the live shows and on Saturday...

Maybe just think in future...

Auditions (haha), Judges Houses (snicker); those are old Europe. I would never slag off a teenage singer because I am too nice (except for Eoghan Quigg but that is not relevant). Let's just say that Janet has much more appeal to the key 37-39 year old male, rural demographic. A demographic which might not vote but can prevent other people from voting.

Courageous Rabbit wrote: »

Maybe just think in future...

About X Factor? No.

Courageous Rabbit wrote: »

..Oh and if I say I think someone is better than another or the best at something, it's expressing an opinion...harping on about a nothing 'performer' like Janet over the course of many pages is vehemently defending or pushing your opinion - a strong opinion if you will.

You aren't just saying that Misha is better than Janet though, you are vituperatively insulting a 15 year old girl whose grandfather just died and who is being bullied by Kelly Rowland. I don't know what motivates someone to act this was but I am guessing Jealousy.

Hey Courageous Rabbit:
JEALOUS MUCH

Quazzie · 16-11-2011 10:06am

swordofislam wrote: »

You aren't just saying that Misha is better than Janet though, you are vituperatively insulting a 15 year old girl whose grandfather just died and who is being bullied by Kelly Rowland. I don't know what motivates someone to act this was but I am guessing Jealousy.

Hey Courageous Rabbit:
JEALOUS MUCH

Janet is actually 17. Thats twice you've changed someones age to suit your agenda.

Misticles · 16-11-2011 10:17am

swordofislam wrote: »

The Quiggmeister is in a Panto touring Northern Ireland at the moment. He plays Prince Charming but they should have called him Prince Ugly. How did he come second to Alexandra Burke the diminutive dusky Nightingale? He was absolutely awful.

Auditions (haha), Judges Houses (snicker); those are old Europe. I would never slag off a teenage singer because I am too nice (except for Eoghan Quigg but that is not relevant). Let's just say that Janet has much more appeal to the key 37-39 year old male, rural demographic. A demographic which might not vote but can prevent other people from voting.

About X Factor? No.

You aren't just saying that Misha is better than Janet though, you are vituperatively insulting a 15 year old girl whose grandfather just died and who is being bullied by Kelly Rowland. I don't know what motivates someone to act this was but I am guessing Jealousy.

Hey Courageous Rabbit:
JEALOUS MUCH

Cry me a fllippin river..... if you're so bothered with Janet go set up you're own little fan club and push your opinions on people who want them.

I for one cannot stand Janet - regardless of her age/family history - which by the way is completely irrelevant. She could be 97 and have 1 eye but with a voice like that I still would not give her my vote. She's still a drab performer and is in no way an entertainer! I don't liek Mishch B much either but she has something that Janet will never have... thats omething that makes people want to watch her!

If you think shes all that and more you shouldnt have to bring age/family issues into it. As for being bullied.... you could say that about them all but I doubt they are bullied just in a highly pressurised environment where their mentors push their opinions on them....!

ibarelycare · 16-11-2011 10:24am

swordofislam wrote: »

The Quiggmeister is in a Panto touring Northern Ireland at the moment. He plays Prince Charming but they should have called him Prince Ugly. How did he come second to Alexandra Burke the diminutive dusky Nightingale? He was absolutely awful.

JLS came second to Alexandra, Eoghan came third.

Otherwise, continue. I'm loving your work

Hope you'll stick around for the live show on Saturday!

swordofislam · 16-11-2011 10:26am

ibarelycare wrote: »

JLS came second to Alexandra, Eoghan came third.

Otherwise, continue. I'm loving your work Hope you'll stick around for the live show on Saturday!

Thanks ibarelycare. Quite alot of it is meant to be funny (not sure if that comes across).

Misticles wrote: »

[Janet Devlin]'s still a drab performer and is in no way an entertainer! I don't liek Mishch B much either but she has something that Janet will never have... thats omething that makes people want to watch her!

But Janet is on the X Factor. Because she HAS the X Factor!
Hey Misticles

:rolleyes::cool: Jealous MUCH :pac::D:P

Oh Yeah:)

Courageous Rabbit · 16-11-2011 10:57am

swordofislam wrote: »

The Quiggmeister is in a Panto touring Northern Ireland at the moment. He plays Prince Charming but they should have called him Prince Ugly. How did he come second to Alexandra Burke the diminutive dusky Nightingale? He was absolutely awful.

Auditions (haha), Judges Houses (snicker); those are old Europe. I would never slag off a teenage singer because I am too nice (except for Eoghan Quigg but that is not relevant). Let's just say that Janet has much more appeal to the key 37-39 year old male, rural demographic. A demographic which might not vote but can prevent other people from voting.

About X Factor? No.

You aren't just saying that Misha is better than Janet though, you are vituperatively insulting a 15 year old girl whose grandfather just died and who is being bullied by Kelly Rowland. I don't know what motivates someone to act this was but I am guessing Jealousy.

Hey Courageous Rabbit:
JEALOUS MUCH

I think I'd have bigger problems other than replying to this garbage if I was jealous of a 17 year old girl!

Stop with the jealousy thing. It 's ridiculous! You clearly can't argue a valid point so you've to resort to calling people jealous. You don't come across very intelligent when you do that.

Hey Swordofislam
Anyone can look up big words on the internet.

Misticles · 16-11-2011 10:58am

swordofislam wrote: »

Thanks ibarelycare. Quite alot of it is meant to be funny (not sure if that comes across).

But Janet is on the X Factor. Because she HAS the X Factor!
Hey Misticles

:rolleyes::cool: Jealous MUCH :pac::D:P

Oh Yeah:)

Sure she does :rolleyes:

Oh I'm so jealous.... I'm gonna run out get a personality transplant ie not have one at all, dye my hair ginger, bleach my skin and get lypo... then we can be twins

I is so excited! :pac:

Stench Blossoms · 16-11-2011 11:58am

swordofislam wrote: »

I don't have very strong opinions about Amelia and I like Janet and Misha B better (both of these acts have OFFICIAL appreciation threads by the way)

Officially made my you!

Why is Amelia's an Unoffical appreciation thread?

swordofislam · 16-11-2011 12:03pm

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Officially made my you!

Why is Amelia's an Unoffical appreciation thread?

I am not really a big fan of Amelia's so it wouldn't be appropriate for me to open an OFFICIAL Appreciation Thread. If we get some Traction though I could make it Official if that is the consensus. It is technically straightforward but don't want to tread on any toes.

By the way the Unofficial nature of the Unofficial Amelia Lily appreciation thread changes NOTHING in regards to the charges applicable. Voting is still free for members of Boards.ie and it doesn't matter whether you vote from a PC, a laptop, a Galaxy Tab or some fancy phone NO CHARGES APPLY!

Also voting IS Open to readers in the Republic of Ireland but also the United Kingdom and the Isle of Man and everywhere else in the world.

Stench Blossoms · 16-11-2011 12:07pm

Are you actually having a laugh?

P.s Please not send me spam pm's asking me to vote on your thread's.

OT: I think i'd like Amelia to win just so it would be a big FU to Kelly for kicking her out in the first round. Wish they'd change her hair though, not a fan of pink at all.

If the way previous trends have gone Misha B will not win having been in the bottom two twice already.

I think LittleMix will get a contract at the end anyway just like JLS.

swordofislam · 16-11-2011 12:12pm

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Are you actually having a laugh?

P.s Please not send me spam pm's asking me to vote on your thread's.

That wasn't spam. I was merely trying to draw your attention to the fact that the thread existed and that your hero was coming off rather badly.
Fine I have added you to my ignore list (in fact you are the only person on it.:)).

I won't trouble you again madam I bid you Good Day!

Quazzie · 16-11-2011 12:14pm

Misticles wrote: »

Sure she does :rolleyes:

Oh I'm so jealous.... I'm gonna run out get a personality transplant ie not have one at all, dye my hair ginger, bleach my skin and get lypo... then we can be twins I is so excited! :pac:

You might need breast reduction as well Misti, and I think I speak for everyone when I say we don't want to see that happening

Zoolander1 · 16-11-2011 12:38pm

Janet is so overrated if you ask me.

Annoying voice and it is a pretty weak voice, no range or power to it. She just does that annoying squeak which makes her unique-ish.

She peaked in the auditions but has been hugely disappointing in the live shows, too young and fragile I think.

Misticles · 16-11-2011 12:53pm

Quazzie wrote: »

You might need breast reduction as well Misti, and I think I speak for everyone when I say we don't want to see that happening

KRAP!

I did not think of that... maybe I need I'll just have a sex change whiel I'm at it!

gavmcg92 · 16-11-2011 1:20pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CbAjj80NIM

What about this for Janet for a live show? I think it really suits her voice. Heard it on the radio today and I thought of her straight away.

Also ... Is there going to be a big band week soon? I loved that week.

ibarelycare · 16-11-2011 1:28pm

They haven't done Big Band since 2009, I wouldn't be surprised if they leave it out again this year.

I hope they bring back the Christmas songs for the final

I miss them!

Misticles · 16-11-2011 2:06pm

Could see Craig doing Last Christmas....

Stench Blossoms · 16-11-2011 2:12pm

gavmcg92 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CbAjj80NIM

What about this for Janet for a live show? I think it really suits her voice. Heard it on the radio today and I thought of her straight away.

Also ... Is there going to be a big band week soon? I loved that week.

Please no! I love that song. I don't want it ruined.

gavmcg92 · 16-11-2011 2:21pm

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Please no! I love that song. I don't want it ruined.

I think it really suits her voice though?

X Factor 2011 (UK) - The Last 4 Weeks

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