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SAS unit ‘snatched’ Woolwich terror suspect Michael Adebolajo in Kenya???

  • 31-05-2013 01:06AM
    #1
    stuar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭


    Here's another strange one, an SAS unit thought Woolwich terror suspect so important in 2010 that they sent a helicoptor into Kenya in 2010 to snatch him, what's it lately with all these "terorists" and various security agencies having a keen interest in them, the Boston "bombers" and the FBI, now new revelations about an SAS team sent to Kenya, is there some type of Psy-ops at play here?

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    Here's the newspaper article about this strange case:
    SAS seized terror suspect three years ago: Michael Adebolajo deemed so significant, Special Forces were sent to grab him in Kenya in 2010


    • Terror suspect was 'snatched' in 'highly dramatic' helicopter operation
    • 'Deemed important' by British security services who had been monitoring him since before his arrest in 2010
    • Adebolajo was deported from Kenya and flown back to UK
    • Despite warnings stretching back ten years, he remained on 'low-risk' watch.

    The decision to use the SAS, working closely with MI5, to snatch Adebolajo in a helicopter-borne
    operation was highly unusual and contradicts earlier claims that he was arrested by local police as he tried to cross into Somalia to join jihadists in November 2010.


    He was photographed at high-profile protests – even standing next to hate preacher Anjem Choudary (SEE BELOW)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333005/Michael-Adebolajo-deemed-significant-Special-Forces-sent-grab-Kenya-2010.html

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    Rally: A man identified as Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo (circled) pictured at a demonstration in Paddington Green, London, in 2007 with Anjem Choudary.
    Police rush to home of hate preacher Anjem Choudary to protect him and his family after threats as he blames Cameron's 'crusade' for 'turning young Muslims to terror'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333199/Police-rush-home-hate-preacher-Anjem-Choudary-protect-family-threats-blames-Camerons-crusade-turning-young-Muslims-terror.html

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    Does anybody notice anything strange about this picture of the "Radical Fundamentalist Hate Preacher's" family photo?, their clothing maybe?, Louis Vitton handbag his wife is carrying, Hello Kitty etc, not the type of clothing I'd expect from a dedicated fundamentalist radical Muslims family, could he be a tool for MI5/6?

    I'll get back to this tomorrow, but there's a few questions floating around my head. It all just seem's a little strange that firstly the SAS were so interested in somebody pictured in 2007 with the hate preacher that they snatched him from Kenya and sent him back to the UK in 2010, then in 2013 he turns up in Woolwich and beheads a British soldier.

    I think theres more to this than meets the eye.



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  • #2
    Brown Bomber
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    stuar wrote: »
    Does anybody notice anything strange about this picture of the "Radical Fundamentalist Hate Preacher's" family photo?, their clothing maybe?, Louis Vitton handbag his wife is carrying, Hello Kitty etc, not the type of clothing I'd expect from a dedicated fundamentalist radical Muslims family, could he be a tool for MI5/6?


    I've had him called out as a fraud years ago. Fundamentalist Muslim in Nikes,? :pac:

    Have you seen these photos?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74144166&postcount=543


  • #3
    stuar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    I've had him called out as a fraud years ago. Fundamentalist Muslim in Nikes,? :pac:

    Have you seen these photos?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74144166&postcount=543

    Thanks Bomber, didn't see your post before, yea I'm now convinced he's a fraud/tool/agent for British secret services.

    I wonder how much of a part he and his handlers played in encouraging the Woolwich beheading.


  • #4
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    stuar wrote: »
    Thanks Bomber, didn't see your post before, yea I'm now convinced he's a fraud/tool/agent for British secret services.

    I wonder how much of a part he and his handlers played in encouraging the Woolwich beheading.

    Yeah, it feels like we are in the Truman Show sometimes. It's all smoke and mirrors. Actors with roles and lines all playing out their parts. Fake radical Muslims scaremongering, fake nationalists reacting, like the EDL, fake moderate Muslims like Quilliam condemning them both.

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    Take the EDL and Chodary. Both serve the same agenda, The formenting of "The Clash of Civilisations"

    It's no coincidence that the two civilisations involved are the colonisers and the colonised.

    Same thing happened after Boston. There was an interfaith service held for the victims and they replaced the Muslim representative with a guy who is funded by the same Zionist millionaires and billionaires who are bankrolling the anti-Muslim propaganda network.

    http://electronicintifada.net/content/weddadys-free-arabs-american-islamic-congress-and-pro-israel-funders-who-helped-them-rise


  • #5
    stuar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    Old game of divide and conquer I'd imagine, same as Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah/Assad falling out.

    Who gains?, not really a hard question to answer............


  • #6
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    The younger brother of one of the men accused of murdering Drummer Lee Rigby was paid thousands of pounds by MI6 as part of spying operations in the Middle East, The Mail on Sunday has discovered.

    Jeremiah Adebolajo, who uses the name Abul Jaleel, was also asked to help ‘turn’ his brother, Michael, to work for MI5, who were already aware of Michael’s close links to extremist groups.
    The claims are made by the Adebolajo family and a well-placed source who contacted The Mail on Sunday.

    Jeremiah Adebolajo, 26, who works as an English teacher at a university in Saudi Arabia and returned to Britain this week, is to be questioned about his brother by Scotland Yard counter-terrorism detectives today.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334476/Woolwich-murder-MI6-connection-Younger-brother-Michael-Adebolajo-paid-thousands-spy-Middle-East.html#ixzz2V5aVP2W6
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  • #7
    Anynama141
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    Are we astonished that the British secret services are interacting with people in the Muslim fundamentalist world, despite the fact that the authorities publicly acknowledge that this is what is happening?

    Who exactly should they be trying to recruit/turn/spy on - the normal moderate Muslims? :confused:


  • #8
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Are we astonished that the British secret services are interacting with people in the Muslim fundamentalist world, despite the fact that the authorities publicly acknowledge that this is what is happening?

    Who exactly should they be trying to recruit/turn/spy on - the normal moderate Muslims? :confused:

    Why do they feel the need to recruit anyone in the first place? why extremist Muslims?


  • #9
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    Why do they feel the need to recruit anyone in the first place? why extremist Muslims?
    Due to the threat of terrorism. The largest terrorist threat these days appears to be from extremist Islam, followed (in the West, at least) by the far right.

    You might recall that there was a terrorist campaign by the PIRA during the 60s to the 90s or thereabouts - it will not surprise you to learn that the British security services were focused on infiltrating them at that time and they succeeded admirably.

    Unless of course we believe that all the terrorist attacks by the IRA were also false flag attacks - but I believe conspiracy theories really only became fashionable with the growth of the internet in the last 15 years or so, so the fact that it was genuine terrorists behind those killings does not seem to be in any dispute.


  • #10
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Due to the threat of terrorism. The largest terrorist threat these days appears to be from extremist Islam, followed (in the West, at least) by the far right.

    You might recall that there was a terrorist campaign by the PIRA during the 60s to the 90s or thereabouts - it will not surprise you to learn that the British security services were focused on infiltrating them at that time and they succeeded admirably.

    Unless of course we believe that all the terrorist attacks by the IRA were also false flag attacks - but I believe conspiracy theories really only became fashionable with the growth of the internet in the last 15 years or so, so the fact that it was genuine terrorists behind those killings does not seem to be in any dispute.

    Never heard of the FRU then so?


  • #11
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Are we astonished that the British secret services are interacting with people in the Muslim fundamentalist world, despite the fact that the authorities publicly acknowledge that this is what is happening?

    Who exactly should they be trying to recruit/turn/spy on - the normal moderate Muslims? :confused:

    They do recruit/spy on "moderate" Muslims. They also entrap desperate, homeless and mentally deficient Muslims.


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  • #12
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Due to the threat of terrorism.

    Why would there be a threat of terrorism?
    The largest terrorist threat these days appears to be from extremist Islam, followed (in the West, at least) by the far right.

    Why though?
    You might recall that there was a terrorist campaign by the PIRA during the 60s to the 90s or thereabouts - it will not surprise you to learn that the British security services were focused on infiltrating them at that time and they succeeded admirably.

    Yeah, why were PIRA trying to bomb Britain?
    Unless of course we believe that all the terrorist attacks by the IRA were also false flag attacks - but I believe conspiracy theories really only became fashionable with the growth of the internet in the last 15 years or so, so the fact that it was genuine terrorists behind those killings does not seem to be in any dispute.

    right....


  • #13
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Never heard of the FRU then so?
    I have, yes. Why the demeaning tone?

    Are you proposing that the FRU was behind all of the terrorist attacks in Britain? That poses the problem as to why the PIRA leadership claimed these attacks. Can you propose a plausible reason as to why they would do so?


  • #14
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    They do recruit/spy on "moderate" Muslims. They also entrap desperate, homeless and mentally deficient Muslims.
    Which category would you put those who murdered the British soldier the other day? Just because you are mentally deficient does not mean that you do not pose a terrorist threat.


  • #15
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Which category would you put those who murdered the British soldier the other day? Just because you are mentally deficient does not mean that you do not pose a terrorist threat.

    How is Brown Bomber "mentally deficient" in your opinion?


  • #16
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    Why would there be a threat of terrorism?



    Why though?



    Yeah, why were PIRA trying to bomb Britain?



    right....
    Uh...these are all very interesting questions, but they seem rather more suited to a forum on politics.


  • #17
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    How is Brown Bomber "mentally deficient" in your opinion?
    I think you misunderstood the meaning of my post.


  • #18
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Uh...these are all very interesting questions, but they seem rather more suited to a forum on politics.

    I know they're challenging questions but they're questions I like to ponder rather than accept whatever the mainstream media tell me.


  • #19
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    I think you misunderstood the meaning of my post.

    Ah okay, my mistake.

    So, just because a man is mentally deficient, doesn't mean he's not valuable for some agenda? Is that what you mean?


  • #20
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    I know they're challenging questions but they're questions I like to ponder rather than accept whatever the mainstream media tell me.
    The mainstream media features plenty of insightful commentators on these issues. I can recommend Robert Fisk as in interesting mainstream media commentator if you are interested in learning more.


  • #21
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    I already learn plenty without Robert Fisk.

    You refused to answer my question Why Islamic people would carry out such attacks on British citizens.


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  • #22
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    Ah okay, my mistake.

    So, just because a man is mentally deficient, doesn't mean he's valuable for some agenda? Is that what you mean?
    Well, I mean that an attack by a mentally deficient person can be just as deadly as an attack by a mentally competent person. I wouldn't count Anders Breivik as mentally competent, or James Holmes.


  • #23
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Well, I mean that an attack by a mentally deficient person can be just as deadly as an attack by a mentally competent person. I wouldn't count Anders Breivik as mentally competent, or James Holmes.

    I think a mentally deficient person is easier to exploit for an agenda, wouldn't you agree?


  • #24
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    I already learn plenty without Robert Fisk.

    You refused to answer my question Why Islamic people would carry out such attacks on British citizens.
    Many reasons. I'm not going into it here. I'm sure what the relevance is to a thread discussing the attempt to turn Islamic extremists to prevent terrorist attacks.

    I might as well ask 'why doesn't everyone just get along?' and demand answers much like you are. I don't think the thread would tell us much about its ostensible subject in that case.


  • #25
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Many reasons. I'm not going into it here. I'm sure what the relevance is to a thread discussing the attempt to turn Islamic extremists to prevent terrorist attacks.

    Prevent them? Surely if you had an agenda, you'd want the extremist to carry out his attack successfully, wouldn't you?
    I might as well ask 'why doesn't everyone just get along?' and demand answers much like you are. I don't think the thread would tell us much about its ostensible subject in that case.

    Why doesn't everyone get along? Because that's not what the powerful people in our society want. Divide and Conquer. It's worked throughout history and continues to work it's magic.


  • #26
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    I think a mentally deficient person is easier to exploit for an agenda, wouldn't you agree?
    Its hard to say. It might explain how the extremist leadership convince so many of them to blow themselves up or take part in hopeless attacks. It might also mean that they are easier to turn as they have arrived at their extremist position due to external influences.


  • #27
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    Prevent them? Surely if you had an agenda, you'd want the extremist to carry out his attack successfully, wouldn't you?
    It depends on whether your agenda is to prevent Islamic terror or to carry it out.
    faustino1 wrote: »
    Why doesn't everyone get along? Because that's not what the powerful people in our society want. Divide and Conquer. It's worked throughout history and continues to work it's magic.
    Oddly enough, though, we live in the most peaceful, safest and wealthiest time in human history. If the agenda of the powerful people is something else, then it's not working very well.


  • #28
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Its hard to say. It might explain how the extremist leadership convince so many of them to blow themselves up or take part in hopeless attacks. It might also mean that they are easier to turn as they have arrived at their extremist position due to external influences.

    Imagine if you're a powerful person and you feel you're losing your grip on the population which have the numbers to remove you from power.

    Wouldn't it be advantageous to you, if those people threatening you were divided over some issue?


  • #29
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Its hard to say. It might explain how the extremist leadership convince so many of them to blow themselves up or take part in hopeless attacks. It might also mean that they are easier to turn as they have arrived at their extremist position due to external influences.

    I suggest you look into the work of Robert Pape if you want to understand why "people blow themselves up"


  • #30
    faustino1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭faustino1


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    It depends on whether your agenda is to prevent Islamic terror or to carry it out.

    Execute the odd terror attack to accomplish your objective.
    Think of 9/11 and all the freedoms America has been stripped of.
    Oddly enough, though, we live in the most peaceful, safest and wealthiest time in human history. If the agenda of the powerful people is something else, then it's not working very well.

    Really?

    Perhaps for you, Orchids are growing out of the sewers but that's not the case for everyone ON THIS PLANET.


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  • #31
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    faustino1 wrote: »
    Imagine if you're a powerful person and you feel you're losing your grip on the population which have the numbers to remove you from power.

    Wouldn't it be advantageous to you if those people threatening you were divided over some issue?
    I read Machiavelli many, many years ago. The difference between now and the age of Machiavelli is that information nowadays has a way of getting out, and once it's out you can't stop it spreading.

    It would take a very brave leader in a democratic country to come up with a murderous plot involving the murder of their own citizens in the internet age, when every secret document is a CTRL+C CTRL+V from the internet.


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