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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #5072
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    indeed keady

    Heh - it's the Shercock Holmes of the inerwebs - fear his mad search engine skillz. :rolleyes:


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    #5073
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    Do you like classic cars robbie? I know where there's a couple of nice ones.

    And his inept sidekick Mr One Wattson.


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    #5074
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    Heh - it's the Shercock Holmes of the inerwebs - fear his mad search engine skillz. :rolleyes:

    Nothing to do with internet skills. What surprises me is your slowness.


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    #5075
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Seems the reminder letters are having an effect.
    Irish Times wrote:
    Some 105,000 letters have been issued in the past fortnight, warning people
    about non-payment. More than 10,000 people have registered since receiving the letters.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0718/breaking60.html


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    #5076
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Nothing to do with internet skills. What surprises me is your slowness.

    It surprises you?


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    #5077
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Nothing to do with internet skills.

    No ****. :o


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    #5078
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    dvpower wrote: »
    Seems the reminder letters are having an effect.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0718/breaking60.html

    That's only a small drop to add to the 2 million that have already paid - according to that nice Mr Higgins.


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    #5079
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    No ****. :o

    You are some man for the smilies. Again, the clown you love comes to mind.


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    #5080
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    You are some man for the smilies. Again, the clown you love comes to mind.

    Ah now - you're too modest! ;)


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    #5081
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    The IMF are today calling for a 'suitably high' property tax here.
    IMF wrote:
    The planned introduction of a value-based property tax in 2013 will provide a progressive and stable source of revenue. A suitably high level for this tax would maximize these benefits, while care is needed regarding collection modalities and lead times.
    http://www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/071812.htm


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    #5082
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,825 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Hijpo wrote: »
    Actually wasnt the official figure brought into question when they found out that people with huge portfolios were paying for each house they owned meaning just because 60% of houses were paid for doesnt mean 60% of the liable populous paid.

    A country which abandoned property taxes in 1977 for private dwellings had no reason to keep a datatbase of such properties so there was never any official figure, just an estimate of 1.6 million properties, not property owners. It will take time to set up an new database and the Household Charge legislation provides for data sharing and exchange including NPPR records to make this happen.

    Eventhough the NPPR was introduced in 2009 no effort was made to determine the exact number of people owning properties other than their principal residence. Despite that the owners of about 340,000 such properties are paying the €200 a year NPPR for them on the same self registration basis as applies to the Household Charge.

    http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/travel-resources/industry-news/property-investment-news/irish-second-home-owners-pay-euro;180-million-in-taxes/a-3-55-2629/

    No doubt they have been encouraged by the €20 per month penalty for late payment and if this type of penalty had been applied to the Household Charge it would have made for even better compliance to date. A nice windfall awaits the exchequer from the NPPR late payers whenever their properties change hands. At present they owe about €2200 rising by €80 per month instead of having paid €800 to date.

    https://www.nppr.ie/Faq.aspx#fk0


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    #5083
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    dvpower wrote: »
    The IMF are today calling for a 'suitably high' property tax here.


    http://www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/071812.htm

    I think they should just go medieval with the penalties for the tardy HHC payers - those are the kind of modalities I like.


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    #5084
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    The IMF are today calling for a 'suitably high' property tax here.

    Are you glad of that? Does that actually make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?



    Whoa...... hey guys look at this..........

    This is abso-fcukin-loutely deadly!


    I cannot believe my luck here, we might actually get to pay more tax next year.... can life get any better?

    You know what they say about a fool and their money lol....


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    #5085
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    I think they should just go medieval with the penalties for the tardy HHC payers - those are the kind of modalities I like.

    Maybe they should.


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    #5086
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    dvpower wrote: »
    The IMF are today calling for a 'suitably high' property tax here.


    http://www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/071812.htm

    They're also calling for welfare cuts, medical card cuts etc.

    I'm calling for tonight's lotto numbers.

    Not much chance of that either.


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    #5087
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    And his inept sidekick Mrs One Wattson.

    FYP


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    #5088
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Ghandee wrote: »
    I cannot believe my luck here, we might actually get to pay more tax next year.... can life get any better?
    We're most certainly going to be paying more tax next year - have you not seen the deficit?

    The important question is what mix of the extra tax should be on work, consumption or wealth.


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    #5089
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    FYP

    Ah, my mistake - I'd usually ascribe that degree of pigheadedness to a man.


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    #5090
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    dvpower wrote: »
    We're most certainly going to be paying more tax next year - have you not seen the deficit?

    The important question is what mix of the extra tax should be on work, consumption or wealth.

    Might as well keep going the way we are. Put it all on consumption, kill the local economy completely.

    Can't touch work - Labour policy

    Can't touch wealth - FG policy.


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    #5091
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    We're most certainly going to be paying more tax next year - have you not seen the deficit?

    The important question is what mix of the extra tax should be on work, consumption or wealth.

    Some of us are....

    (the fools who pay it)

    It'll linger on for a few years, then the new govt will get elected, the steadfast non payers holding on to their cash (although still paying for their local services as they always have) while the foolish demand a refund for the money theyve parted with.

    Bookmark this post DV.


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    #5092
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    dvpower wrote: »
    The IMF are today calling for a 'suitably high' property tax here.


    http://www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/071812.htm

    I suppose you guys are practicing jumping through their hoops while salivating at this news.
    Those Troika p***** should be told to fcuk off. They are laughing at this Government big time and coming out of their press conferences sneering and laughing. They never had it so easy in any other country as they do here.


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    #5093
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    A country which abandoned property taxes in 1977 for private dwellings had no reason to keep a datatbase of such properties so there was never any official figure, just an estimate of 1.6 million properties, not property owners. It will take time to set up an new database and the Household Charge legislation provides for data sharing and exchange including NPPR records to make this happen.

    Eventhough the NPPR was introduced in 2009 no effort was made to determine the exact number of people owning properties other than their principal residence. Despite that the owners of about 340,000 such properties are paying the €200 a year NPPR for them on the same self registration basis as applies to the Household Charge.

    http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/travel-resources/industry-news/property-investment-news/irish-second-home-owners-pay-euro;180-million-in-taxes/a-3-55-2629/

    No doubt they have been encouraged by the €20 per month penalty for late payment and if this type of penalty had been applied to the Household Charge it would have made for even better compliance to date. A nice windfall awaits the exchequer from the NPPR late payers whenever their properties change hands. At present they owe about €2200 rising by €80 per month instead of having paid €800 to date.

    https://www.nppr.ie/Faq.aspx#fk0


    You never came back to me when I challenged you earlier on your ficticious friend, taxed to the hilt by SF lol?

    Also on your claim about the highest rate of rates being applicable to SF led council areas?

    Incidentally, I was in the Dundalk area on Monday.......

    Not too many have paid the HHC in your neck of the woods according to a few families in one estate in particular I was visiting.

    You must be in the minority in the town.


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    #5094
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Some of us are....

    (the fools who pay it)

    It'll linger on for a few years, then the new govt will get elected, the steadfast non payers holding on to their cash (although still paying for their local services as they always have) while the foolish demand a refund for the money theyve parted with.

    Bookmark this post DV.

    The lollipop land strategy - always a winner.


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    #5095
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    alastair wrote: »
    I think they should just go medieval with the penalties for the tardy HHC payers - those are the kind of modalities I like.

    Yes, you probably need to change your underpants.


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    #5096
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    alastair wrote: »
    Shift goalposts much?

    So niether you or dv can tell me what local services i get if i pay the HHC.

    You are just like enda and phil.


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    #5097
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    alastair wrote: »
    The lollipop land strategy - always a winner.

    Only someone deluding themselves that FG/Lab will hold on to power at the next G.E is the one living in 'lollipop land' Allistair.

    You know it, and so do the rest of the blueshirts....

    They've definitely shown time and time again that theyre here for a good time, not a long time.


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    #5098
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Ghandee wrote: »
    It'll linger on for a few years, then the new govt will get elected
    ... and then, as if by magic, the deficit will disappear and we'll all live happily ever after.


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    #5099
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    Ah, my mistake - I'd usually ascribe that degree of pigheadedness to a man.

    Maybe we should meet up for a date, you know what they say, opposites attract and all that.

    There'd be some sparks boy especially in the back seat....


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    #5100
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Incidentally, I was in the Dundalk area on Monday.......

    Not too many have paid the HHC in your neck of the woods according to a few families in one estate in particular I was visiting.

    I'm betting Muirhevnamor - sure it's all Northern Bank Note cash economy there.

    From the Argus (hi!)
    Wednesday June 20 2012

    JUST half of Louth households have paid the household charge, prompting Louth County Council to starkly warn: 'we will find the rest of you'.

    Figures released by the local authority last week show that 21,824 households had paid the charge up to June 13, which the council says represents 'circa 50 per cent'.


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    #5101
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I suppose you guys are practicing jumping through their hoops while salivating at this news.
    Those Troika p***** should be told to fcuk off. They are laughing at this Government big time and coming out of their press conferences sneering and laughing. They never had it so easy in any other country as they do here.
    Tilting at windmills there.


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