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Garden Birds chat 2011

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭sables2


    bogtreader wrote: »
    I was up about 5.45 this morning and the blackbird was giving it socks.
    The Robin doesnt usually start up til about 7.30 7.45
    Here, here. Blackbirds are early risers for sure. I find that 'my' finches and blue tits don't come to the feeders till late morning...maybe 10 or 11am. Does anyone relate to this? Any tips to attract 'em more earlier :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Saw first Treecreeper of the winter today. Always need a bit of luck to see this species, but usually see it once or twice.
    So then I was going through the other species that I had not seen which are at least possibles and discussing this with family
    Little Egret
    Little Grebe
    Heron
    Sparrowhawk
    House Sparrow

    Literally 3 minutes later a Sparrowhawk came in and took one of the 5 Goldfinches.....the goldfinch had stunned itself on house window in its bid to escape and the hawk only had to pick it off a bush. Talk about timing...

    Of the above list, I've seen a Heron, but outside survey area. I do expect to see Little Grebe and Little Egret and House Sparrow visit infrequently and I don't see them every winter.
    Other birds I just about never see are Starling, despite a murmuration of them 2 fields away, Jackdaw though there are murders of them with Rooks locally and Collared Dove


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Mothman wrote: »
    So then I was going through the other species that I had not seen which are at least possibles and discussing this with family
    Little Egret
    Little Grebe
    Heron
    Sparrowhawk
    House Sparrow

    And a Heron this morning....a bit like buses :D

    and my 4 Goldfinches (remember it was 5) are at the nyger seed this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Bsal


    I had six Yellow hammers spend most of the day in my garden, every week more and more join the group. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭sables2


    Bsal wrote: »
    I had six Yellow hammers spend most of the day in my garden, every week more and more join the group. :D
    So Bsal, do you live in the country-side? It must be so, i've hardly heard anyone here sighting yellow hammers in urban area's....(?) Correct me. Pity you hadn't got your camera on the ready :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Bsal


    I live in Swords, Yellow Hammer numbers are suppose to be good around the Balbriggan area but they seem to have moved a bit further south, I will get a shot of them tomorrow, I haven't got a great camera so the pics would be too good. They started visiting the garden a few weeks ago, at first it was just two but since Sunday up to six at once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭sables2


    That's good. Look forward to your pic's Bsal. Don't worry if they're a bit un-clear. It's very exciting to see 'em coming to gardens feeding :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Bsal


    sables2 wrote: »
    That's good. Look forward to your pic's Bsal. Don't worry if they're a bit un-clear. It's very exciting to see 'em coming to gardens feeding :)

    I got a few Yellow Hammer pictures. Only two in the garden so far today.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    :eek: Bsal; Yellowhammers in ye Garden?!? I genuinely don't believe I've Ever heard of such a thing. Anywhere. You're So lucky! I'm green with envy.

    I live smack bang in the middle of nothing but open countryside. Yet I've never so much as seen or heard one here. If I looked out and saw one on my own land, I'd have a heart attack!

    Ye lucky, lucky sod!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Got a pic this morning, not great but good enough for comparison - tree sparrow on the left, house sparrow on the right.


    :eek: God almighty! The holy grail! Tree Sparrow! I hate you too! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    sables2 wrote: »
    A lot of magpies...(my nemesis :mad:). Starlings are not here this year as they we're in abundance last year.


    1/ Larsen Trap.

    2/ See under " Nest Boxes " Post #35 ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Durnish wrote: »
    when we first moved into this house we had starlings roosting in part of roof.

    Needless to say, we now have new fascia/ sofits /bargeboard etc. Was this cruel?


    Please see post #35 on " Nest Boxes ".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    trebor28 wrote: »
    was out feeding my birds today, when i could hear this feint "dum dum dum dum".
    i have never heard a wood pecker before or seen one for that matter so was looking around to see was there one near by.

    then i noticed the sound was being made by a blue tit hammering away at a coconut. :D


    Trebor; Ye'll well know a woodpecker (drumming) when ye hear one. They make a " Tock, tock, tock, tock, tock " sound. Tends to come in bursts of two or three seconds at a time. And the tock's run together like a machine gun.

    I'm sure, if ye ask Google, there'll be a site where ye can listen to a recording. Then ye'll be prepared should ye ever hear it in the wild.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    sables2 wrote: »
    i saw what looked like a Mistle Thrush on an ariel cable above me. A stunning medium sized bird with a spotted breast ..... It may have been a Song Thrush. How can you know for sure within a split second to positively identify a bird at these kind of distances...is it years of experience and wearing binoculars around the neck 24/7 ....?


    Sables; Ask a dozen Birders and ye'll probably get a dozen different answers on how to ID birds. Ye'll probably also find each of the dozen are at different levels of skill.

    I was once in the company of Alan Davies. The man is a genius at birding. Probably one of the top ten in UK. He pointed out a spot on the horizon, coming our way. It must've been over a hundred yards away. A black speck. " Siskin. " He said.

    I'm like; " F**k off! Leave my head alone! How in hell do ye know That's a siskin?! " He just shrugged. " Way it flew. " He said. :eek:

    Now, that's an extremely extreme example of the 'use' of " Jizz ". Jizz is a term birders use to refer to those subtle little things that birds do or show and which help us suss out what they are, without being able to see them clearly and study their colours and markings.

    Take a kestrel as an nice, simple example. Nothing hovers quite like a kestrel, does it? So, ye can be bombing down a motorway and just glance one out of the corner of ye eye. No more than a silhouette. Yet ye know damn sure that was a kestrel. That's " Jizz ".

    So, now to try and apply that to ye thrush. Song Thrush is brown on the back. Mistle Thrush is gray on the back. The under wing colours give them away too. But, ye never saw your one fly.

    The 'spots' on the breast are completely different. Song actually has little arrow heads. Mistle looks like spotted dick. Big, black, round spots.

    But, the best jizz on those two? Song's are little, brown birds with a spotted breast. They have an air of timidity about them.

    Mistles? Big, bold, upright bird. Pale with spots on his breast. Almost has something of the air of a birdy rottweiller about him. Ye wouldn't want anyone throwing one at ye. Big, solid bird.

    Which do ye reckon ye saw?

    (I reckon I already know which it was, actually. It's behaviour showed me its jizz ;))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭sables2


    WOW!! Yellow hammers Bsal. I'm STUNNED. You ARE a lucky bugger as Ditch said. What are ya feeding 'em? These photo's are pretty good mate. Good work


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Bsal


    sables2 wrote: »
    WOW!! Yellow hammers Bsal. I'm STUNNED. You ARE a lucky bugger as Ditch said. What are ya feeding 'em? These photo's are pretty good mate. Good work

    Just mixed seed from the local supermarket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭ender ender


    Will blue tits eat nyjer seed? I had one at the feeder yesterday, behaving very aggresively towards the goldfinches, but couldn't say for sure if it ate anything. It usually goes for the peanuts or suet balls. And would the tits be pairing up already? My regular visitor seems to have a buddy whereas before he/she was very territorial.

    I'd love a to see yellowhammer in the garden too, I've seen them in farmland a few minutes walk from my house but they don't venture this far into the housing estate... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Discussion on trebor28's mystery bird has been moved to a new thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Flo with a view


    I have been watching a flock of six birds that I had some difficulty identifying. I couldn't decide whether they were serins (which have rarely been seen in this country) or siskins, so I sent photos to Ethna and Michael Viney. They thought they were serins, and suggested I report them to Birdwatch Ireland.

    I just got this message back:

    "Many thanks for your email. These birds can be tricky to photograph, but you've captured this one nicely. This is a Yellowhammer. And you were very lucky to have 6!

    The Yellowhammer is one of Ireland's (and indeed Western Europe's) declining farmland birds. They are confined to tillage habitats, and in Ireland these days are really only seen along the east and south coasts, with a "smattering" at various small-scale patches of cropland locations elsewhere in the country.

    We often receive calls about Serins as the two are very similar - but yes, Serins are extermely rare this far north and am not sure if they have been recorded in Ireland. We can never turn a blind eye to this sort of query though - Climate Change is causing all sorts of change in bird populations around the globe. These changes are subtle for now, but we expect that they will be pretty significant over the next 50 to 100 years and beyond."

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    The Yellowhammer is one of Ireland's (and indeed Western Europe's) declining farmland birds. They are confined to tillage habitats, and in Ireland these days are really only seen along the east and south coasts, with a "smattering" at various small-scale patches of cropland locations elsewhere in the country.


    :( Yeah. That's me knackered then. Only crops round here are grass and cattle.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Flo with a view


    Not necessarily. My sister sees a single yellowhammer at her feeders quite frequently, and she's surrounded by pastures. The nearest tillage to her would be nearly a mile away, but that doesn't seem to have stopped it coming to a good source of food. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Flo with a view


    Mind you, they mostly seem to be near the east coast, and Leitrim is rather far inland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭sables2


    Great stuff Flo. They sure are declining birds. So beautiful in their luminous yellow distinctive bright stripy coat. I've never seen one. If i go to a tillage field some where in my local Co. Wicklow - if i'm patient: will i possibly spot one....(maybe next spring, summer...) I think a spotting scope would come in to it's own here. Elusive & camouflaged I'd imagine to detect :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭whyulittle


    Spotted a Bullfinch further up the back garden away from all the feeders the other day.

    Pigeons were down mopping up fallen mixed seed today, and an easily spooked Greenfinch at the peanut feeder. Single Redpoll back as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Whyulittle; Bullie's are no stranger to my place. In fact, I'm pretty certain they nested, down in my paddock hedge, last season. I didn't look for them ~ to record for the BTO NRS ~ because they're notoriously prone to desertion.

    But, the point I actually wish to make is; I see them 'here, there and everywhere' about my ground. But, never around the feeders.

    It's as if they just don't like to socialise with other birds.

    Anyone else noticed this :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    Ditch wrote: »
    Whyulittle; Bullie's are no stranger to my place. In fact, I'm pretty certain they nested, down in my paddock hedge, last season. I didn't look for them ~ to record for the BTO NRS ~ because they're notoriously prone to desertion.

    But, the point I actually wish to make is; I see them 'here, there and everywhere' about my ground. But, never around the feeders.

    It's as if they just don't like to socialise with other birds.

    Anyone else noticed this :confused:

    love bullfinches myself, see them regularly when out walking etc, but as you say ditch are very shy and do tend to keep to themselves and not bother anybody.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Flo with a view


    I get lots of other finches (chaffinches, greenfinches and goldfinches) around my feeders, along with robins, the various tits, house sparrows, dunnocks, and recently wood sparrows and the fabulous yellowhammers, but rhe only bullfinch I have seen was round the other side of the house, feeding on some bushes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    " Wood Sparrows " :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    I saw a bird that i've never seen before during the recent snow that we had poking around in the garden. It had a really long beak and was about the size of a blackbird. What was it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Flo with a view


    Sorry, meant Tree Sparrows. not so common as the House Sparrows, but a flock of them turned up over the last couple of days.


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