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Who's Emigrating?

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    #32
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,982 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    You would have thought that after 90 years, the feckin arseholes running this country, would actually try to get some work for its population, instead of pretending that they're interested.

    They've always taken the easy option, relying on mass-emigration, and money sent home by the emigrants to prop up the economies in depressed areas.

    Take the annual St Paddy's Day sham. I'm sure that it happens all over the country, where the local "dignatories" take off on the piss to the US, on a mission "to persuade Irish-Americans to invest in the auld country":rolleyes:.

    I know that this happens in Kerry every year, for instance, but all that they seem to come back with are hangovers and bags of duty-free. To add insult to injury, we're the ones footing the bill for these bullsh1t trips.


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    #33
    El Siglo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    I'm moving to Northern Ireland if that counts? My brother is in China and my sister is in Saudi, both extremely qualified and doing well... in another country. I truly do hate this place, I hate how we let a bunch of stupid old bastards push us around and take the piss. The only people not feeling the pain are the ones in power and the rich ones. In France, they didn't put up with this and people got the chop and I'm not talking a chop in their extortionate wages.


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    #34
    Takeshi_Kovacs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Takeshi_Kovacs


    Wouldn't mind heading to Canada for a bit, more so because i am incredibly bored with Ireland now. Just want to see different culture, meet new people, go hiking, etc in outdoors, rather than the painfully mindnumbing routine i have at the moment.


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    #35
    plein de force
    Registered Users Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭plein de force


    my degree will mean i have to study in france for a while
    if things work out there with jobs etc i might not come back


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    #36
    brummytom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I'm Emigrating to Ireland :cool:


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    #37
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    In order to save the Irish economy, the best and brightest of us have to leave these shores every generation.

    This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

    I'm gone by the end of the year. Canada or maybe the UK.

    Who else is going?
    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    I know this is a silly question but, whats Canada like? In general? (I know its a huge country with a range of climates I've a degree in Geography ffs, but are people nice and are there jobs to be got?)

    Something is wrong here...


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    #38
    shofukan
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭shofukan


    I'm hoping to go to Germany to study in college when I'm finished school. After that, I don't know what might happen but I don't particularly want to come back.


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    #39
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,961 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Is it still called Emigration if you're an Immigrant to Ireland? I have a couple more years at university (Master's in Engineering), then if I can't find work, I'm off.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #40
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    gizmo wrote: »
    Something is wrong here...

    Indeed there is. There are no f**ing jobs!

    And re Canada, I was looking for something along the lines of anecdotes about Canda or something. But I'm sure anecdotes and stories have been cut back.


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    #41
    AARRRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭AARRRRGH


    danbohan wrote: »
    so why are you and all the others not going to stay and try to change from inside ?, you cant do it from outside

    Of course they can.
    There is nothing new here.
    For many generations in most countries, people have had to leave home and some return many years later with new skills and ideas that help further the economy.

    Its kind of like a social natural selection.

    Times get hard. Many leave for new pastures.
    All of them expect to do well.
    Some of these do really well, and some of those who did well return and contribute to their own country in the future.
    Others will skip by in their chosen lands as illegals and actually have a worse life than they would have here.
    The circle of life


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    #42
    jordan..
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭jordan..


    I have a pretty good job but I am still fed up with this kip..

    Thinkin canada or oz next year! I love my country but the people running it and much of the population are assholes!


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    #43
    MistyCheese
    Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Whooo, hooo I am a specialist Misty-cal Cheese-i-cal.

    So I'm safe. The rest of you are saftee, I can. For now, Em. I cal/

    Also'll ruin it for everyone!!!!



    SHUSH< you


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    #44
    cloneslad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    I started planning to leave in april 2006 when things were still pretty rosey back home, graduated in Novermber, left in February 2007 to come to Korea, everything turned to shít when I left.

    Came back home in july 2008, did my masters, graduated in December 2009 and came back out to Korea in february this year.

    I am only staying till next march then travelling for a month or so. Go to my mates wedding at the end of April and hope to god I find a job in a month or two, if not, I'm off again!


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    #45
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    AARRRRGH wrote: »
    Of course they can.
    There is nothing new here.
    For many generations in most countries, people have had to leave home and some return many years later with new skills and ideas that help further the economy.

    Its kind of like a social natural selection.

    Times get hard. Many leave for new pastures.
    Some of these do really well, and some of those who did well return and contribute to their own country in the future.


    and the results of this in ireland are ?, we have had periods of emigration right throughtout the last centary so if your argument had held up we would not be repeating it now . ireland inc is ran by a rotten self centred group whose only intrest is maintaining the status quo thats has existed since the foundation of the state . what other countries in western europe has exported its people like we have here , denmark finland , sweden , dont think so , perhaps we have made it too easy for the status quo to be maintained here by just leaving


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    #46
    PatsytheNazi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    You would have thought that after 90 years, the feckin arseholes running this country, would actually try to get some work for its population, instead of pretending that they're interested.

    They've always taken the easy option, relying on mass-emigration, and money sent home by the emigrants to prop up the economies in depressed areas.

    Take the annual St Paddy's Day sham. I'm sure that it happens all over the country, where the local "dignatories" take off on the piss to the US, on a mission "to persuade Irish-Americans to invest in the auld country":rolleyes:.

    I know that this happens in Kerry every year, for instance, but all that they seem to come back with are hangovers and bags of duty-free. To add insult to injury, we're the ones footing the bill for these bullsh1t trips.
    Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?........that would be another generalisation, based on your assumption that "most" people have the same opinion as yourself. ;)


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    #47
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,982 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    PatsytheNazi wrote: »
    Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?........that would be another generalisation, based on your assumption that "most" people have the same opinion as yourself. ;)

    Get back under your bridge.

    You don't need surveys on After Hours, just an opinion.:P


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    #48
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    tomorow the results of my collage course come out.....

    Im ****ting it and may just have to emegrate dine now why i aint got a single qualification :(


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    #49
    TPD
    Registered Users Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Planning on going to America for 3 months after finishing the computing degree next year. If I like it and get set up properly, I'll stay. An offer of some fancy schmancy job might sway me... Probably won't happen though :D


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    #50
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    PatsytheNazi wrote: »
    Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?

    No such thing.


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    #51
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    From talking to people whove lived there.....

    Knowing the lingo boosts ones range of job opportunities and likely salary even though the overwhelming majority of people one will be dealing with will be quite fluent English speakers.

    Also if one plans on staying long term being able to follow local news/current affairs would be handy

    Hoe gaat het met u?

    Where did you learn to speak dutch? I have considered it for some time now but can't see many places that teach it.

    Second language is very important.


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    #52
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    PatsytheNazi wrote: »
    Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?........that would be another generalisation, based on your assumption that "most" people have the same opinion as yourself. ;)

    75% of 34 people agreed... ala L'Oreal surveys...


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    #53
    Indubitable
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Indubitable


    Just get everyone on the dole to emigrate and come back in about 10 years and it is a win-win situation


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    #54
    MJRS
    Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭MJRS


    I'm going to Canada! Can't wait.


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    #55
    The Aussie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »
    get everyone on the dole to emigrate and come back in about 10 years

    If they are to lazy to find a job that is not suited to their skill set or their friends liking i dont think you will shift them off mammy's couch without even shifting them out of the country.


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    #56
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Evelyn Mushy Holster wrote: »
    Where did you learn to speak dutch? I have considered it for some time now but can't see many places that teach it. .

    I havent yet :(

    I bought a couple of those "Teach yourself" CD's but havent had the chance to do much listening yet (concentration/multitasking abilities dont really stretch to listening while driving)

    Although one probably really needs to take some classes.
    The Aussie wrote: »
    If they are to lazy to find a job that is not suited to their skill set or their friends liking .
    :rolleyes: Because theres 450,000 such positions unfilled right now and going a begging :mad:


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    #57
    AARRRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭AARRRRGH


    danbohan wrote: »
    and the results of this in ireland are ?, we have had periods of emigration right throughtout the last centary so if your argument had held up we would not be repeating it now . ireland inc is ran by a rotten self centred group whose only intrest is maintaining the status quo thats has existed since the foundation of the state . what other countries in western europe has exported its people like we have here , denmark finland , sweden , dont think so , perhaps we have made it too easy for the status quo to be maintained here by just leaving

    You have never seen the results of that here.
    Go dig out some history books. And read some newspapers. You'll find all the examples you want.
    My point is that its a cycle. It will happen again and again.


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    #58
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    AARRRRGH wrote: »
    You have never seen the results of that here.
    Go dig out some history books. And read some newspapers. You'll find all the examples you want.
    My point is that its a cycle. It will happen again and again.

    ok its a cycle and happens again and again , why ?


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    #59
    Herb Powell
    Registered Users Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    I'm feckin off outta here, I hate the place. there's too much to see outside, and the future looks ****e


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    #60
    Brien
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Brien


    I'm moving to Austria on Wednesday. After a year of hanging round lookin out for jobs here, I've given in, and found 3 people willing to interview me in english while I learn the lingo.

    Everything like housing, roads, education, hospitals, and shopping seem a lot more sensible over there. Cant put my finger on why.

    The amount of sun they get in the summer wont hurt either :D


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    #61
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    AARRRRGH wrote: »
    Its kind of like a social natural selection.
    Nice bit of social darwinism, eh? The weak get winnowed out and the strong continue on? Whats your stance on eugenics?

    I hate to break it to you but the young people, the ones who are leaving, are usually the ones with the skills the country needs to restore itself and create a better economy and society. Their leaving sets us back by decades, at least it will if it reaches significant numbers. Its not the strong who remain, but the entrenched wealthy and connected, who rarely have anyone's wellbeing in mind but their own.

    These people sold off the future of the nation for the illusion that garden sheds could cost half a million.

    Lest we forget, it was the current Minister for Finance's father who memorably said "we can't all live on this little island", a sentiment for which he should have been run out of politics.
    AARRRRGH wrote: »
    The circle of life
    Its only the circle of life as long as bald incompetence from the politicians is tolerated and accepted, as it has been for the last ten years. The reasons for this apathy are quite simply that the shower in power are borrowing as quickly and as heavily as possible to cover their bills, and praying that they can keep doing so until the next election. Once the tax bill rises and wages drop you will see the real consequences of their decisions; until then the somnolent public will continue pretending it doesn't matter.

    They're pretending that speculation is investment, borrowing is income, and money-multiplication through circular lending is economic growth.


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