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oscarBravo's "infractions" and impartiality

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    #32
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    perhaps you could give a detailed explaination of what infractions are, wand their appeal process, we cos we havn't had since they suddenly appeared last year.

    Think of them as penalty points on your profile.

    They expire after 10 days (I think).


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    #33
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    DeVore wrote: »
    I think I'm going to outlaw complaints about infractions.

    Perhaps hand out infractions for those complaints? :)


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    #34
    [Deleted User]
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    SteveC wrote: »
    Think of them as penalty points on your profile.

    They expire after 10 days (I think).

    So if a person recieves 5 infractions in a given week, that could merit an automatic siteban? Unless thats the way it is


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    #35
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    It takes 10, afaicr.

    DeV.


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    #36
    Karl Hungus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So if a person recieves 5 infractions in a given week, that could merit an automatic siteban? Unless thats the way it is

    It takes 10 infractions, and the automatic siteban only lasts 7 days.


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    #37
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So if a person recieves 5 infractions in a given week, that could merit an automatic siteban? Unless thats the way it is
    I don't know, I'm not a mod, I'm just repeating what I read about it. Did ye not get an instruction manual with the C&H.


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    #38
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,821 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    has anyone ever gotten 5 infractions in 10 days?


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    #39
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    Overheal wrote: »
    has anyone ever gotten 5 infractions in 10 days?

    Yes.


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    #40
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    *runs in panting*

    ok......

    *inhales*

    I'm back from the shop, and since we've cleared up the whole infraction thing and what they are, i'll empty my bag.

    *bag is tipped upside down on table*

    Ok, I have a tub of sour cream Pringles, Tayto premium crisps, some Phileas Fogg nachos and some microwave popcorn. I also managed to snare some chilli and garlic dip.

    So, dig in folks!


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    #41
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Dude? Jelly beans?

    Where are my jelly beans?


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    #42
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    I didn't ask him anything of the kind. oB was letting the poster know that I knew that he was guilty of re-registering to evade a forum ban four times, and warning him not to repeat the tactics that got him banned in the first place. I'm sorry I've offended you. I'll check with you in future before making any moderating decisions, k?

    Not wanting to back seat mod, but re regging is an insta-ban offence, ne? Why not just hit the ban stick?

    I'm not offended, i'd just like you to keep it in yer PM's, people dont be needing to see that thing in debates on europe.


    Anyone any hunky dorys? Sour cream?


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    #43
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Sorry folks, Dev only had a tenner and insisted I brought back change.


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    #44
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    He not let you keep the change? typical :pac:


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    #45
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Bambi wrote: »
    Not wanting to back seat mod, but re regging is an insta-ban offence, ne? Why not just hit the ban stick?
    It's a judgement call. There's the faintest possibility he might contribute something to the debate.
    I'm not offended, i'd just like you to keep it in yer PM's, people dont be needing to see that thing in debates on europe.
    Sometimes moderation is done in private, sometimes in public. That's a judgement call too.
    Anyone any hunky dorys? Sour cream?
    Jelly beans, dammit!


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    #46
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I had jellybeans yesterday, they were stupid mini ones though, more jelly foetuses you might say


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    #47
    Wreck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Bambi wrote: »
    I had jellybeans yesterday, they were stupid mini ones though, more jelly foetuses you might say


    Mmm, jellied foetuses.


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    #48
    paddybar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭paddybar


    Bambi wrote: »
    I had jellybeans yesterday, they were stupid mini ones though, more jelly foetuses you might say
    or jellybabies maybe?


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    #49
    RDM_83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭RDM_83


    Having being reading the politics boards for a month or two now I would agree with slabmurphy, does seem to be an anything goes attitude towards posts about Shinners.
    btw nothing but respect for John Hume (taught in my old school, goes to the pub near my folks house, one of the few people that had the people of NI's interests really to heart) but seriously an infraction for calling him Uncle Tom :eek:

    ps how come feedback threads always go so off topic, who mods the mods?


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    #50
    delly
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    RDM_83 wrote: »
    ps how come feedback threads always go so off topic, who mods the mods?

    Whats it got to do with mods? Mods are just regular members outside of the forums they mod. Feedback is looked after by the admins.


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    #51
    humanji
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    RDM_83 wrote: »
    ps how come feedback threads always go so off topic, who mods the mods?

    Batman?


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    #52
    O'Morris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭O'Morris


    Bambi wrote: »
    Not wanting to back seat mod, but re regging is an insta-ban offence, ne? Why not just hit the ban stick?

    Exactly. People who continually re-register under different user names are scum. Old Mac has nothing but contempt for them.

    Ban them all and let Mod sort them out!


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    #53
    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Please call them purple nurples, that would be fantastic! And instead of thanks - call them "squodges". +1squodge


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    #54
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    O'Morris wrote: »
    Exactly. People who continually re-register under different user names are scum. Old Mac has nothing but contempt for them.

    Ban them all and let Mod sort them out!
    But where would you go now there's no INP website?


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    #55
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    I got an infraction from OB before for 'insulting behaviour' in reply to a poster for saying in an EU debate...

    'Good grief, you haven't a clue' (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56236003#post56236003 )

    and another for 'breach of forum charter' http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55492074#post55492074

    Never got any from any other mod yet :D


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    #56
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    And...what? You've had to have counselling? Girls won't go out with you? The value of your house has fallen?

    I didn't realise infractions were so terribly upsetting.


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    #57
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    And...what? You've had to have counselling? Girls won't go out with you? The value of your house has fallen?

    I didn't realise infractions were so terribly upsetting.

    Would you give yourself an infraction for that reply if it was in Politics forum? :rolleyes:


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    #58
    redspider
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    DeVore wrote: »
    infractions are warnings of unacceptible behaviour. I would have thought they have fairly clear labels. They are lesser rebukes then a ban and more obvious to the user then a post on a thread that they have just behaved unacceptibly.

    They also will auto ban a user who accumulates 10 of them in a short (~days) space of time.

    There is no appeals process because they simply dont have much of a consequence.

    DeVore, the problems I see is that infractions are used in a very subjective fashion, they are given out in non-obvious cases, they are used like confetti in the politics forum and when accumulated they lead to a ban. oscarBravo in particular seems to relish giving them out, he uses them in a childlike manner and they are like his 'toy'. He enjoys giving them out, I have no doubt. I was the recipient of his so-called 'judgements' and there is little support from other mods. I think I got a forum banning from a mere 3 infractions or something on items that were very very subjective. For example, one post was something like 60 lines and he took umbrage(sp?) at the last line which he interpreted as warranting an infraction. Then, there was no information from him on when I would be allowed back on.

    Its out of control if you ask me and I have no problem saying that publicly. My opinion would be that oscarBravo should be given a 'rest' from modding the politics forum, and I have no doubt that many would back that. On the one hand you could say having an active policeman in such a 'volatile' forum is a good thing and can help with 'libel issues', but on the other hand the 'strong arm' tactics poison the forum.

    Redspider


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    #59
    faceman
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    Ahhh the politics of the politics forum. Never ceases to entertain!

    Yore Ma Uncle Tom

    Nah, doesnt have as nice a sound to it.

    For the record, I didnt like Mike's crisps in the first place.


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    #60
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    gurramok wrote: »
    Would you give yourself an infraction for that reply if it was in Politics forum? :rolleyes:
    He's not in Politics now though, feedback is a bit more relaxed to avoid people getting themselves banned while protesting their bans etc.

    This is an infraction, I'm not going to investigate them as they are slaps on the wrist and not of consequence per se.

    For the record I think the Politics mods are fine.

    DeV.


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    #61
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    gurramok wrote: »
    Would you give yourself an infraction for that reply if it was in Politics forum? :rolleyes:
    Is this the Politics forum?
    redspider wrote: »
    oscarBravo in particular seems to relish giving them out, he uses them in a childlike manner and they are like his 'toy'. He enjoys giving them out, I have no doubt.
    Yup. It's the only thing that gets me through the day.


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