I know it is cruel but...

Sigh, hmm that is quite horrendous to me, however the billions of animals killed in slaughter houses every year has me a little more upset.

Q_Ball wrote:

Its a bit different in fairness. The hamster, cats and dogs died slow painful deaths. Well probably not the hamster, it'd probably have died before the rocket exploded

Unless you go and learn about how much worse those animals are treated don't talk about it tbh. It is slower, it is more painful.
Try to imagine the pain and the suffering that they endure day after day and night after night. Next time you get some soap in your eyes, try to imagine that pain for 3 or 4 days at a time. Next time you have a stomach ache, try to imagine liquid plumber being poured down your throat till you puke so much blood that you bleed to death. Next time you bump your head, try to imagine being a monkey and getting a steel plate smashed into your skull at 50 miles per hour. For that happens in the name of science.Continue in abundance till this day... As for space, six chickens to a 16 x 18 inch cage....
Sigh if only that were near the worst that goes on these days. Anyway google is our friend....
The thought that there are videos of the tortures that go on on the net....
sigh, if only slaughter houses had glass walls eh, and maybe if welfare was actually to inspect them...

Edit, woot rant sorry.

NoelRock wrote:

What about PETA distributing graphic comics entitled "Your Mommy Kills Animals" to KIDS whose mothers wore fur coats?

EDIT, had to cut out most of the quote because my post is too long

Ah I knew it was dubious to bring a video by peta into it but it was the one I found...
Don't get me wrong, I know everything about PETA, they are ****ing abhorrant assholes tbh and what they do to children... I despise them as much as I despise anything.
People say they bring animal cruelty to the attention of people but **** that. Anybody can do that, their methods are ridiculous and they just hurt the cause. People don't take this seriously because 'oh PETA are assholes they must have set up that stuff',
You may ask why I linked to a PETA video then, it is because what I am talking about has **** all to do with those assholes. Everything in the video is absolute fact even if it comes from them and that is all that matters.
Their cause is right but they are as bad as the people they hate. It is just one example KFC, they even admit this is what they do. Go look at less know meat suppliers...

People should really eat some meat to have a properly balanced diet

why?
plus the fact that if more and more people stopped eating meat over a period of time, there would be no world hunger.Look at the stats on how much the billions of animals take to be reared. over half the water in america goes to cattle alone. America alone could feed 800 million starving people a year by giving up beef etc.
If people don't have morals when it comes to animals, do they show the same respect with people?
I would like to know how some people reason that killing human is wrong and killing an animal is not. At least with most people, it is ' i know it is wrong but i just don't think about it/don't bother.How can you find it not to be the same thing, all we are is animals. If you find no problem with killing an animal, fine but then you should have no problem with somebody killing a human.
How can you call somebody that kills a human a murderer and somebody that kills an animal not.
I mean look at the outraged opinions people have on this thread for the hamster when in fact they are condoning far much every day and taking a part in it.
Don't think that a vegetarian thinks they are better than everybody else, animls die when crops for me have to be harvested, a smart vegetarian would consider themselves at wrong too.
I try to kill as little possible without being excluded from society in some little forrest somewhere. Who could I reach there tbh. The fact that through knowing me or people like me in society that millions of people a year are becoming vegetarian is great, with the amount of humans that exist it is practically impossible to be murder free without huge changes so I just try to keep that killing down as much as possible. I can eat a meat substitute that looks and tastes like meat, so i do. Meat is the only food that i actually liked, i'm quite picky but it is much better these days because being vegetarian is much easier adn maybe like george bernard shaw i can have a procession of animals follow my funeral to represent the animals that i didn't kill in my lifetime :v:
I really started thinking about this stuff as a little kid but it took so many years of improving how I live to actually feel little better in myself.
My first memory as a child about this was of a vegetarian being distraught when she saw rare meat. She wouldn't tell me what was wrong and well i couldnt see the problem because I was just a child but she said think back when I understand and about how this feels like a million auchwitzs a year to her. That had me pickled for quite some time, why won't she eat meat mammy, who is auchwitz, oh to be a kid again.
w00t for the rants!