N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

Irish_rat · 11-09-2016 7:03pm

Moyarney wrote: »

I can't post photos but I'll try take some tomorrow anyway.

You can upload them on another website and link them on here then.

josip · 24-09-2016 4:22pm

Mucky day and I only had the phone with me.

Looking down the river towards Carrigcloney.

On the Kilkenny side the bridge will be coming off the top of the Rock I think?
This is where the old quarry used to be.

Slightly bigger hole in the road now.

Where it will be landing in Stokestown

They make it fairly clear on the Glenmore side of the Rock that you're not welcome onsite.

I've heard rumours that they'll have to demolish the County Road bridge in order to get machinery onsite.
Has anyone else heard that?

allthedoyles · 21-10-2016 10:53pm

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Pink Rock ( plucked from FB )

allthedoyles · 31-10-2016 4:13pm

The Pink Rock again and across the river from Pink Rock

Bards · 10-11-2016 2:02pm

Latest newsletter can be found below

http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/N25NewRossBy-PassPPPScheme/Newsletters/TheFile,27172,en.pdf

marno21 · 18-11-2016 10:19pm

Foundations going down for the bridge, someone local may be able to explain the location more?

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Source: http://www.n25newross.ie/project-updates/

NedNew2 · 18-11-2016 11:52pm

That would be Stokestown, on the New Ross side. The other side of the Barrow here is the Pink Rock at Glenmore, Co. Kilkenny. It's the same location as per the photos above.

Geogregor · 19-11-2016 7:09pm

marno21 wrote: »

Foundations going down for the bridge, someone local may be able to explain the location more?

Source: http://www.n25newross.ie/project-updates/

When was this photo taken? I thought they would be more advanced by now.

vicwatson · 09-12-2016 12:12am

From Damien Tiernan twit feed

marno21 · 23-12-2016 5:40pm

Latest newsletter: http://www.n25newross.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/N25-NewRoss-Newsletter-Dec2016-D5.pdf

allthedoyles · 23-12-2016 9:12pm

Opposite Pink Rock :

23-12-2016 9:22pm

A lot of references to Ballyverneen - where exactly is that?

allthedoyles · 25-12-2016 5:26pm

Bridge construction at Camblin Hill

NedNew2 · 26-12-2016 11:38pm

1966 wrote: »

A lot of references to Ballyverneen - where exactly is that?

That's on the Kilkenny side of the Barrow, just behind what you see in the photos above (behind what is known as the Pink Rock). There is the river, a couple of fields, the railway and then you arrive at the N25 Waterford New Ross road at Glenmore.

coastwatch · 13-01-2017 4:38pm

I understand there will be no pedestrian or cycle access to the new bridge over the river Barrow. I think that's a pity and missed opportunity. By all accounts, the new bridge will be a landmark, the longest in Ireland and the longest of it's type (Extrados) in the world.

Having pedestrian and cycle access could pave the way for a "greenway" type route or river bank route around New Ross and beyond.

Jamie2k9 · 13-01-2017 5:37pm

coastwatch wrote: »

I understand there will be no pedestrian or cycle access to the new bridge over the river Barrow. I think that's a pity and missed opportunity. By all accounts, the new bridge will be a landmark, the longest in Ireland and the longest of it's type (Extrados) in the world.

Having pedestrian and cycle access could pave the way for a "greenway" type route or river bank route around New Ross and beyond.

Its a HQDC ie same as Motorway spec of course there will be no such access.

D Trent · 13-01-2017 5:47pm

Will it seriously be the longest bridge In Ireland ?
What's the current longest, M1 Boyne?
Or n25 Waterford Suir?

spacetweek · 13-01-2017 7:44pm

D Trent wrote: »

Will it seriously be the longest bridge In Ireland ?
What's the current longest, M1 Boyne?
Or n25 Waterford Suir?

According to post 2 in this thread, N25 Waterford is currently the longest.

marno21 · 13-01-2017 7:46pm

When the N25 Waterford-Glenmore DC is done the whole lot might have motorway restrictions so there won't be any cyclist provisions

spacetweek · 13-01-2017 7:47pm

coastwatch wrote: »

Having pedestrian and cycle access could pave the way for a "greenway" type route or river bank route around New Ross and beyond.

Even if the new bridge didn't have walking and cycling restrictions, it wouldn't be normal to allow them on such a long tall structure anyway.

coastwatch · 13-01-2017 9:01pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Its a HQDC ie same as Motorway spec of course there will be no such access.

spacetweek wrote: »

Even if the new bridge didn't have walking and cycling restrictions, it wouldn't be normal to allow them on such a long tall structure anyway.

In a different league ofcourse, but the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco is on US Highway 101 (equivalent to our HQDC). It's longer at 2.7km, higher, at 227m and far busier with 100,000 vehicles per day, than this new bridge will ever be, however the planners had the vision to include wide pedestrian/ cycles lanes on both sides, for recreational purposes. It's so popular now, that the west path is dedicated cycleway and the east path is for pedestrian only. These paths are separated from motor traffic by curbing / railings and connect directly by ramps with a bike paths leading to /from San Francisco.

So if it could be done on that scale in 1933 in the US, I cant see any real technical (or cost) reason why it couldn't be done here. I think the real reason is down to lack of vision and imagination on the part of our planners.

marno21 · 13-01-2017 9:06pm

coastwatch wrote: »

In a different league ofcourse, but the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco is on US Highway 101 (equivalent to our HQDC). It's longer at 2.7km, higher, at 227m and far busier with 100,000 vehicles per day, than this new bridge will ever be, however the planners had the vision to include wide pedestrian/ cycles lanes on both sides, for recreational purposes. It's so popular now, that the west path is dedicated cycleway and the east path is for pedestrian only. These paths are separated from motor traffic by curbing / railings and connect directly by ramps with a bike paths leading to /from San Francisco.

So if it could be done on that scale in 1933 in the US, I cant see any real technical (or cost) reason why it couldn't be done here. I think the real reason is down to lack of vision and imagination on the part of our planners.

There are no bridges near the Golden Gate bridge for cyclists/pedestrians to use. Cyclists and pedestrians can still use the existing N25 through New Ross, as the new bridge and approach roads are parallel to whats there already. .

Alun · 13-01-2017 9:22pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Even if the new bridge didn't have walking and cycling restrictions, it wouldn't be normal to allow them on such a long tall structure anyway.

In the UK, the Forth Road Bridge has a cycle path as does one of the Severn Bridges (M48), and the Humber Bridge.

coastwatch · 13-01-2017 9:24pm

marno21 wrote: »

There are no bridges near the Golden Gate bridge for cyclists/pedestrians to use. Cyclists and pedestrians can still use the existing N25 through New Ross, as the new bridge and approach roads are parallel to whats there already. .

The point is, this new bridge could be the attraction / highlight of a local walkway / cycleway.

marno21 · 13-01-2017 9:25pm

Alun wrote: »

In the UK, the Forth Road Bridge has a cycle path as does one of the Severn Bridges (M48), and the Humber Bridge.

There are no alternative crossings within miles of those three bridges. There is still a bridge in New Ross when this is built.

There are no pedestrian or cyclist facilities on the Westlink bridge either and that's in the heart of Dublin's western suburbs. This is in rural Co. Wexford/Kilkenny.

Alun · 13-01-2017 9:31pm

marno21 wrote: »

There are no alternative crossings within miles of those three bridges.

True, but that wasn't the point I was making, I was just counteracting the idea that such things weren't usual on such "long tall" structures.

road_high · 14-01-2017 1:47am

marno21 wrote: »

When the N25 Waterford-Glenmore DC is done the whole lot might have motorway restrictions so there won't be any cyclist provisions

That won't happen for a very long time/if ever. It's a reasonably good stretch of road, lot of the N25 was upgraded a lot with EU funding in the late 80s/early 90s. Many many road projects need doing before Glenmore.

Carawaystick · 17-01-2017 12:48am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Its a HQDC ie same as Motorway spec of course there will be no such access.

Loads of HQDC allow cycling access, the M1 @120kmh limit, the N25 from Carrigtwohill to Cork and the road from Ovens to Cork off the top of my head.

What's the detour length from the end of the N25 where you can cycle, to the start of where you can cycle again?
The Pont St Nazaire used to be motorway, but you can cycle over it now. It's 3.35km and 68m high, as another example

marno21 · 17-01-2017 2:08am

Carawaystick wrote: »

Loads of HQDC allow cycling access, the M1 @120kmh limit, the N25 from Carrigtwohill to Cork and the road from Ovens to Cork off the top of my head.

What's the detour length from the end of the N25 where you can cycle, to the start of where you can cycle again?
The Pont St Nazaire used to be motorway, but you can cycle over it now. It's 3.35km and 68m high, as another example

N1 doesn't have motorway restrictions applied because part of the old route was subsumed into the new route and thus there is no alternative between J19 and J20. There would also be issues with a border crossing under motorway restrictions as the A1 north of the border is not a motorway.

The N25 is also HQDC because it's short and doesn't have an alternative route between J1A and the Dunkettle interchange. It could change in future when the Midleton BP is upgraded to HQDC and the HQDC is continued onto Youghal.

These two roads being HQDC has nothing whatsoever to do with cyclists. The N25 New Ross BP can be redesignated motorway as far as the R733 junction in future, but at present the former NRA were against applying motorway restrictions to isolated sections of DC. Hence there being no M22/M25 in Cork, or M4 on approach to Sligo, or perhaps the M25 Waterford BP. When the Waterford-Glenmore DC is built they may decide to apply motorway restrictions to it as there will be unbroken DC from Kilmeaden to New Ross.

marno21 · 17-01-2017 2:49pm

Seeing as there are disconnected discussions taking place on the N2, N4 and N25 threads, here's a thread to discuss cyclist provisions on new national road schemes.

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057694424/

allthedoyles · 28-01-2017 10:23pm

Taken from where the bridge construction will end

Taken from where bridge construction will start

cgcsb · 30-01-2017 11:21pm

It's likely the former Wexford-Waterford railway will become a greenway, and thus the existing railway bridge will provide an alternative for pedestrians and cyclists.

NedNew2 · 31-01-2017 7:22am

cgcsb wrote: »

It's likely the former Wexford-Waterford railway will become a greenway, and thus the existing railway bridge will provide an alternative for pedestrians and cyclists.

The Wexford Waterford railway is a different route, the railway here was the Waterford New Ross line with onward connection to Enniscorthy via Macmine.

marno21 · 04-03-2017 1:16am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2AkLLSVho

Video update from the scheme.

N25 New Ross PPP wrote:

The good weather over the last few months has helped to accelerate progress of earthworks and drainage. A number of areas have been opened up to extract material to be used in other parts of the site and rock excavation by controlled blasting has commenced in the Stokestown area.

The works on the River Barrow Bridge are progressing steadily. Piling works are coming to an end and concrete foundations and pier works are commencing in March 2017. On the Kilkenny side of the river the tower crane has been erected for construction of Pier 2 and Pier 3.

Structures have progressed throughout the site, the most visible being the underbridge on the R733 at Stokestown which has had the beams placed over the existing road. Accommodation underpass structures are being installed on a phased basis starting in March 2017.

It is anticipated that speed limit restrictions will be put in place on the N25 at Glenmore and at Ballymacar in early 2017 to facilitate the construction of roundabouts at these locations.

josip · 06-03-2017 11:25am

More concrete and rebar added to the foundations at the Glenmore side

m17 · 19-03-2017 1:56pm

The flyover at camblin hill

camblin looking towards strokestown

m17 · 20-03-2017 11:10am

New Ross n25 bypass drone overview 25/02/17http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnH2aZX0ABg

m17 · 26-03-2017 10:59am

Barrow bridge extrados

accommodation underpass

the flyover

flyover

Geogregor · 26-03-2017 11:20am

M17, are those your pictures? Could you also post them on Skyscrapercity?

Cookiemunster · 26-03-2017 4:49pm

Geogregor wrote: »

M17, are those your pictures? Could you also post them on Skyscrapercity?

They look like the ones from the project website. http://www.n25newross.ie/gallery/

allthedoyles · 09-04-2017 9:55pm

marno21 · 26-04-2017 8:12pm

Few snaps

https://twitter.com/BAMIrl_/status/850004785378078721

https://twitter.com/BAMIrl_/status/847017521794437121

marno21 · 26-04-2017 9:07pm

Latest newsletter:

http://www.n25newross.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/N25-NewRoss-Newsletter-Mar2017-Digital.pdf

josip · 07-05-2017 9:27pm

Less progress than I would have thought in the past 2 months, although they were working on Saturday banging in rebar.

New solar thingy that I don't remember being there before

fwiw, the other side

and a few on the other side of the river on the Dunganstown road

m17 · 03-06-2017 12:25pm

Strokestown 25/05/17

allthedoyles · 04-06-2017 2:25am

Sub contractors not getting paid. Bam we're always known as subbie busters. They done it in Carlow to castledermot and the m50 nothing changes with them and your right Dec the slowest job in the history of road jobs

Is there a rumour that the project is been held up because contractors are not been paid ??

I got the above quote from Facebook

L1011 · 04-06-2017 4:38am

If BAM didn't pay subcontractors, the wouldn't be able to still get subcontractors. Usual nonsense noise

Geogregor · 12-06-2017 11:08pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoDQiqyeWJc

josip · 23-06-2017 11:34am

A few low res pics from last weekend.
Bridge pylons starting to emerge.

I have higher res on another phone, I'll see if I can upload them later.

BelfastVanMan · 23-06-2017 2:47pm

Great pics, thanks. :-)
Great to see the proper, obvious pyhsical parts of the bridge start to take shape at last!

N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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